EVO 6.1 vs Nexus-S ? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just rooted and installed the Cmod 6.1 Stable on my EVO last night. To me the phone now looks like the "pure" Android experience, non of that crappy Sprint or HTC bloatware. Phone is very addicting again, downloading new files and installing them, and getting phone setup correctly. But then a stock out of the box Nexus-S would be the same as all this work I just spent the whole day to get the EVO to get like this.
The only thing I could see a Nexus-S offering over this modded EVO, is the sweet screen, I am in love with that Super AMLOD tech, and a cheaper monthly bill on T-Mobile, approx $30 cheaper. But then I must admit Sprint service in Chicago has been #1 awesome, my fav carrier out of the last few years I have owned smart phones. ATT being the worst, and T-Mobile was spotty, very bad indoors, and average outside or in car.
So go for a Nexus-s for the better screen and cheaper monthly bill ? Or stay with the EVO 6.1 with better service, but a bit more expensive ?

CM 6.1 != 2.3.

Superfrag said:
CM 6.1 != 2.3.
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Sure feels that way, or is it really 2.3 ? But that super AMOLED screen gets me to drool But T-Mobile vs Sprint not so much. Have to admit Sprint has excellent service in Chicago, never a dropped call, and phone works in Basement office pretty good too, T-Mobile and ATT never worked in Basement.
Will Sprint be getting a Nexus-S, or new Droid with AMOLED ?

I love T-mobile here in Vegas! Never had a dropped call. And my g1 on cm 6.1 sure doesn't look or feel like 2.3 haha

Zorachus said:
I just rooted and installed the Cmod 6.1 Stable on my EVO last night. To me the phone now looks like the "pure" Android experience, non of that crappy Sprint or HTC bloatware. Phone is very addicting again, downloading new files and installing them, and getting phone setup correctly. But then a stock out of the box Nexus-S would be the same as all this work I just spent the whole day to get the EVO to get like this.
The only thing I could see a Nexus-S offering over this modded EVO, is the sweet screen, I am in love with that Super AMLOD tech, and a cheaper monthly bill on T-Mobile, approx $30 cheaper. But then I must admit Sprint service in Chicago has been #1 awesome, my fav carrier out of the last few years I have owned smart phones. ATT being the worst, and T-Mobile was spotty, very bad indoors, and average outside or in car.
So go for a Nexus-s for the better screen and cheaper monthly bill ? Or stay with the EVO 6.1 with better service, but a bit more expensive ?
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Do you plan on doing a lot of gaming on your phone? Then get a Nexus S

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Do you plan on doing a lot of gaming on your phone? Then get a Nexus S
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Not too much gaming, mainly texts, e-mails, web surfing, news reading on websites a lot. Some video watching.

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Not too much gaming, mainly texts, e-mails, web surfing, news reading on websites a lot. Some video watching.
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Then you should probably be happy with your Evo! TBH I tried an Evo out and it seemed a lot more solid than I thought it was. It perfectly suits your needs I'd say. That doesn't mean that the Nexus S isn't a 'better' phone, because personally I'd say it is, BUT the Evo is more than good enough for your needs. And probably especially snappy if you get good 4G service and running CM6.1.
If I were on Sprint I'd get an Evo. But I prefer T-Mobile and the Nexus S is just so irresistable .

just to clarify cm 6.1 is 2.2. cyanogen does not modify the skin but it is not considered "pure" because cyanogen modifies system files and usually has a different kernel. vanilla 2.2 runs kernel 2.6.32 and most cyanogen 6.1 run 2.6.35. Another example is cyanogen doesn't use the stock launcher he uses adw launcher. it looks similar but has differnt features. I like cyanogen more but there are many additions not in the "pure google" experience. i have an evo now and couldn't live without cyanogen since i can't stand sense.

Instant updates from Google instead of relying on devs to acquire leaks or build from the source is why I'm dumping my EVO with CM6.1.
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How is the battery life with CM 6.1 on the Evo? I know on the N1 CM has had some issues with battery life.

If you love the screen and Sprint, get an Epic. I definitely like the Nexus S, but a smartphone loses most of its functionality without good signal. Oh, and the Epic is one of the furthest along in terms of CM for Galaxy S, so you'll see 6.1 in there soon enough.
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Mactagonist said:
How is the battery life with CM 6.1 on the Evo? I know on the N1 CM has had some issues with battery life.
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Eh, it's been less than fantastic. I was getting over 24 hours with older nightlies, but I'm barely managing 12 with 6.1 final.
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I am happy with sprint. Great service. But that super AMOLED screen is calling my name. I hope sprint gets a kick ass phone early next year.

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If you love the screen and Sprint, get an Epic. I definitely like the Nexus S, but a smartphone loses most of its functionality without good signal. Oh, and the Epic is one of the furthest along in terms of CM for Galaxy S, so you'll see 6.1 in there soon enough.
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No stay away from the epic,I even think the nexus is cheaper than the epic right now
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[Q] how is it, Mytouch 4g owners? tell me please. :)

Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.
its really important, i need a new phone before monday .
cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
Well I have no experience with the MT4G yet as I am gonna get it today. My first decision was to get the G2 but after doing countless research (youtube reviews!) and comparisons of the two, I fell in love with the myTouch over the G2. The hard keyboard of the G2 doesn't really matter to me, the onscreen keyboard is good if not better with Swype. I prefer vanilla android over other UIs but mySense seems to have a lot of interesting tweaks and features that I might enjoy having. If we don't like it then there's rooting of course as I'm sure there will be plenty of roms available soon. The updates are the only thing that have me a bit worried but like I said, rooting the phone might ease the pain of dragging updates by flashing 2.3 roms if available.
Not sure if this might help but its worth noting i think.
Good luck on choosing your next phone!
I've had both the G2 & the MT4G and I'm a lot happier with the MT4G.
The G2 seemed too bricky for my tastes and I really didn't use the hard keyboard to compensate. MySense is not as good as full fledged sense but it's not a huge difference.
I know not too long after gingerbread comes out we'll probably have a Rom to flash it on our phones so updates don't worry me so much.
I think it really comes down to if you want a hard keyboard or a front facing camera. I chose the front facing camera & less bulkiness
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cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
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maybe because this is the 15th "how do you like your mytouch" "is it better then the g2" thread.
people need to learn how to read before they start typing
I have had the G2 and now the MT4G and although the G2 is a very very good phone I must say that I believe the MT4G is the best all around phone I have ever owned, I also have a Vibrant and a Nexus One at this time but I am going to sell the Nexus One. All of these are Great phones IMO but the G2(hinge issues, connection issues,radio issues)and the Nexus One( touch screen issues at times,signal issues) and the Vibrant(virtually no GPS until just a short time ago, lags etc.signal issues) do not seem to compare with the all stability of the MT4G of which the only issue I have found was a slight glitch in MMS messaging which is now covered. All of this is obviously just my opinions but if I had to go with just 1 phone right now it would be the MT4G
The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....
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The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....
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BOO-YA.
I gave up my mint N1 for the MT4G. I know there aren't many ROM's for it yet, and God knows how long it will take to get Amon_RA, but it took a good month before there were ROM's to flash for the N1. With Android 2.3 so close to being released it's just a matter of time before we get a vanilla gingerbread ROM for this device.
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
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I just got mine hours ago and am loving it. I got it because I've always wanted a Sense device, and the hardware is second to none (for now)...2nd gen Snapdragon and an outstanding 768MB RAM!
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The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
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I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)
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The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
Out of curiosity, what is the disappointing part of it for you?
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Nexus One owner who absolutely loves the My Touch 4G. Will always keep the N1 for the almost instant upgrades but the hardware on this My Touch is 2nd to none. This phone has it all and it all works. I'm getting use to this non vanilla Android for lack of a better word but using Launcher Pro this thing is dynamite. Best phone to date besides the Nexus One of course. Seriously the My Touch 4G is probably the best phone I have ever owned. The Nexus One will always be my go to phone, I'm just always drawned to that thing.
PS
The HSPA+ was just flipped on in my town. Live in a suburb outside Boston and getting between 3.5 to 5.5 Mbps on download and 1.5 on upload. I was usually getting around 900-950 kbps on the download. What a major diifference and these speeds are in my town and most surrounding towns. T-Mobile is killing this area with their great network. I am in freaken heaven. Thank You T-Mobile.
Those speeds are on my Nexus One. My Touch 4G is higher.
I had the EVO for almost a month (trial period). While I agree the bigger screen is great, it seems a little more washed out, maybe due to the fact that the same resolution is now scretched to accomedate a 4.3'' screen. The capacitive buttons on the bottom was a wash for me. I find myself accidently hitting them sometimes. I much prefer the physical keys. Battery life on the MT4G is much better. I could never manage to squeeze 10 hours from the EVO (moderate use). So, I chose the MT4G over the EVO. The only thing I did like about the EVO was the original SENSEUI on it, Tmobile's version is a little sloppy. Just my experience and opinion.
Your device is clearly defective, get a warranty exchange. That, or your lying.
lonlawrence said:
I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)
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rockstarar said:
Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.
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LOVE the hardware, but don't like Sense. Waiting for CM6 to come out. You could always pick up a used Nexus or Vibrant for $300 or so. Or buy this one from T-mo for $450 ish without contract and then trade up later if you really want...

Finally a good phone :D (New user over from vibrant)

Hello everyone.I just picked up this gem today after 5 of the longest months with a cursed (Vibrant/galaxy S).SO glad to be back on HTC. Hope i made the right move but i think i did.Glad to be here guys
Welcome. I switched over from the G2 just 2 days ago also, and so far with CyanogenMod, I'm doing good. The battery isn't great, but with a few tweaks, I'll get it to be better.
How's it feel though, coming from a beautiful screen to the MyTouch?
I came from the Vibrant as well within the last week or so
The battery right now is worse than my Vibrant was, although my Vibrant was running custom firmware tweaked out the *** and my MT4G is toting stock so far.
I really like the phone...a lot
The screen is ok.I believe i got a good one.The fact that everything works makes up for the display change.Can you put a 32gb card in this?
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The screen is ok.I believe i got a good one.The fact that everything works makes up for the display change.Can you put a 32gb card in this?
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Yup! Supports up to 32g.
Another convert coming over from a Vibrant. Although I will miss the screen of the Vibrant, I am loving having a phone that works. No more wonky gps, no more gallery lockups, no more wondering if Samsung will actually ever push 2.2 over.
Did have an issue with 4g reception, but switched to the newer sim that came with the phone and haven't had an issue since.
Have a good display (did my research and have seen the washed out ones to know the difference) and no creaky buttons or anything like that.
Luckily for me, as I was on my 5th vibrant T-mobile offered my a Mytouch4g at no cost. So my Vibrant is up on craigslist now!
The 16 GB Class 10 Wintec is still on NewEgg @ $29 + free shipping, just ordered one.
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I came over from a Evo and the battery life is great compared to that! My New HD7 has the best battery life of any phone i had right now, but the MT4G is my favorite. Its the one I take to work with me.
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The 16 GB Class 10 Wintec is still on NewEgg @ $29 + free shipping, just ordered one.
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Link?
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shlongwoodian said:
The 16 GB Class 10 Wintec is still on NewEgg @ $29 + free shipping, just ordered one.
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I received mine today...it seems to run fine, just fine
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Just came over from the Captivate. I will miss the screen, but the MTG4's screen is not bad (guess I have one of the good ones) and for every other aspect of the phone, like the man said, it just works. I am running this thing stock, and so far so good. Was really getting tired of having to tweak/mod things that should have been stock. Just my .02
maybe purchasing a mytouch 4g today at $250 new in box. Coming from a nexus one to vibrant and possibly the mytouch 4g.
Vibrant I'm liking it currently, did the gps hardware fix, currently unlocked & rooted. Very few custom roms out there currently for it. Screen is very solid, battery life is okay, had better life with my nexus one.
What should I expect from the mytouch 4g, still considering if I should make a switch over to tmobile or just unlock it for my local carrier. Mytouch 4g screen doesn't look too bad, vibrant was nice. I do like the home buttons on mytouch, and the trackpad unlock/wake. Vibrant I didnt care for using the power button to wake it all the time.
Any advice for rooting/unlocking the mytouch 4g? Which rom to use?
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maybe purchasing a mytouch 4g today at $250 new in box. Coming from a nexus one to vibrant and possibly the mytouch 4g.
Vibrant I'm liking it currently, did the gps hardware fix, currently unlocked & rooted. Very few custom roms out there currently for it. Screen is very solid, battery life is okay, had better life with my nexus one.
What should I expect from the mytouch 4g, still considering if I should make a switch over to tmobile or just unlock it for my local carrier. Mytouch 4g screen doesn't look too bad, vibrant was nice. I do like the home buttons on mytouch, and the trackpad unlock/wake. Vibrant I didnt care for using the power button to wake it all the time.
Any advice for rooting/unlocking the mytouch 4g? Which rom to use?
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Just my opinion but I would switch T-Mobile has been great for the three years I've been with them and as far as roms try a few and see what you like my current daily is cm6 and its great but I keep trying other stuff when I feel like it...like tonight imma try the new unofficial cm7 ...2.3 based yea screw ota we'll always have the new updates running before they ever get to us over the air ... but that's just my opinion.
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Just my opinion but I would switch T-Mobile has been great for the three years I've been with them and as far as roms try a few and see what you like my current daily is cm6 and its great but I keep trying other stuff when I feel like it...like tonight imma try the new unofficial cm7 ...2.3 based yea screw ota we'll always have the new updates running before they ever get to us over the air ... but that's just my opinion.
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That's one of my favorite things about going from the MT3G to the new MT4G - I see no need to root it at the moment. Of course, I probably will like 6 months from now when I start to get bored with the phone, but this offers me everything I wanted stock that the MT3G didn't have that I had to root to get...plus it runs better than it ever could have on the older phone. Planning to stay stock for a while
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Just my opinion but I would switch T-Mobile has been great for the three years I've been with them and as far as roms try a few and see what you like my current daily is cm6 and its great but I keep trying other stuff when I feel like it...like tonight imma try the new unofficial cm7 ...2.3 based yea screw ota we'll always have the new updates running before they ever get to us over the air ... but that's just my opinion.
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Picked up the mytouch 4g brand new in box, I purchased it off craigslist. Seller was a tmobile rep who won it in a contest and it was never opened. Rooted & unlocked it to use on current carrier, still debating if I should make the switch to tmobile.
Rooting wasn't too bad, just had issue with pushing CWR using adb. Issue solved though, so its time to find a rom.
Initial thoughts of the mytouch 4g...
solid build, very nice!
screen is pretty good.....can't really compare it to the vibrant
trackpad is nice to use in Recovery mode
Screen is alittle small...prefer the vibrant size
Overall Im happy with the phone,
ROMS: I do like the stock rom and some apps, possibly just change the launcher and stick with that.
CM7 isnt too bad from what I have played with, not sure if I want it though.
I just got rid of my vibrant two days ago and got my mytouch....it is much much better...the build quality is insanely good and the screen is very very close to the vibrant but much sharper...battery life seems better and omfg cm7 on here is just so win.
MT4G + CM7
I also came from a g2 and I'm glad I did. This phone is awesome. Welcome!
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I just got rid of my slide on wednesday my dad bought the 4g in plum for me and there is definitely a BIG difference so much faster and smoother and obviously BETTER its the best phone on the market right now, and I also have the mytouch 4g portable speakers and the flex protective in white and gray
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You know, the more I use the MT4G, the more I like it.
It just makes me wonder how Samsung missed the boat on what should have been a class leading series of phones. Their blunder with the GPS (and now, if you have a look over at the Vibrant forum, it seems as it may have been hardware related after all) and their clueless software support. Maybe they were hoping their amazing (and it is amazing) screen would make up for it.
Anyway, my MT4G has been rock solid so far. My wife got hers a couple of days ago and she is also really liking it.
It's too bad that the MT4G marketing is aimed toward phone novices, kind of like a super phone for dummies. I avoided it because they make it seem more like a toy than the really great phone it is. Too bad, because it could have saved me a painful few months with the Vibrant.
been doing some searching for tmobile discounts...Able to my old university discount of 15% just need ID and email from what I was told.
Probably going to take step over to tmobile, although I do like my current carrier. Solid 3g service at work and for home its okay. Up to 3.2mbs is the highest I hit. Typically averaging around 2mbps.
As for the tmobile are there roaming agreements? Do I need to even worry about that, mainly travel around the midwest.
as for the plans itll either be the following:
1000min unlimited text/data @ $59 plus tax
or 500min " " " @51 plus tax.... only thing worried about is minutes to family members who currently have my local carrier. Guess Ill try the 500 for awhile and switch if needed. 4g service is suppose to be strong at home but reveiws of it at work arent the greatest.

Little story about the MT4G and the Nexus S

I had for two months a MT4G and first I hated it because it was so different. I came from a Nexus One with Stock Froyo and Sense UI was overwhelming me. After 2 months I really appreciated all the small nice features that HTC integrated that stock android never had. Additionally, the MT4G is a great, fast and well built phone (I had also trouble with squeaky buttons and the bad screen) and Froyo 2.2.1 with Sense was running very smoothly on it. Last weekend I dropped my MT4G and the screen broke and the buttons and trackpad scratched. So I took the opportunity to buy the Samsung Nexus S. I wanted to give it a try and wanted to see how gingerbread looks. The phone is nice except the already known flaws. The SAMOLED is for my taste too dark and not sharp enough. But I could definitely live with that. The most disappointing thing was gingerbread. I couldn't believe what a half baked version of android Google put on this phone. It's embarrassing. The browser is useless with or without flash because it is not hardware accelerated? Everything is choppy and laggy. I had the MT4G before and its browser is smooth and fast. The NS is a pain while scrolling between homescreens....it lags, it misses swipes it drove me nuts. I tried several homelaunchers and the lag on the homescreen and the missed swipes were still present. I wanted to try the FFC just to realize that it is not supported by any 3rd market software (Tango doesn't really work) and neither by Google itself. Are you really kidding me? Yesterday after a week I had enough. Today I returned the phone mainly because of gingerbread and I am happily awaiting my MT4G. I will buy one tonight and I couldn't be more happy with HTC and Sense. I am not even anxiously waiting for gingerbread anymore for my MT4G.
thanks, may pass on the nexus s and wait for another 4g phone before switching to tmobile. thought about buying a new mytouch 4g and trading it for the nexus s and going on a two year contract .
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The problem was probably it being by Samsung. Many users have reported Gingerbread running fine on HTC phones.
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The problem was probably it being by Samsung. Many users have reported Gingerbread running fine on HTC phones.
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Could be. But most of the bugs should have been observed prior to release of this phone. The browser lag, flash unusable and that the phone reboots while on the phone doesn't sound like they tested the NS vigorously. The Nexus S is officially not a dev phone and to put something like that to BestBuy is unbelievable. BTW I had two Nexus S and both were buggy.
gingerbrad on the mytouch 4g runs amazing.. its the nexus s lol.
id still trade my mytouch 4g for one though. idk why
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gingerbrad on the mytouch 4g runs amazing.. its the nexus s lol.
id still trade my mytouch 4g for one though. idk why
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I'm tempted to, hopefully going to check it out tomorrow. If I like it I may purchase a mytouch 4g for $99 on a two year contract. Trade the mytouch 4g for a nexus s then, and still have my old mytouch 4g which I purchased off craigslist for $250 brand new.
I have now my MT4G again and I am so happy with it. Try the Nexus S before you buy it. Stock Android and the Nexus line are dead for me.
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I have now my MT4G again and I am so happy with it. Try the Nexus S before you buy it. Stock Android and the Nexus line are dead for me.
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I do like cm7, haven't really used the stock mytouch rom since I'm unlocked many features for tmobile. would keep the nexus s as a back up
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I do like cm7, haven't really used the stock mytouch rom since I'm unlocked many features for tmobile. would keep the nexus s as a back up
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I would buy an NS again if they will figure out which are hardware defects and which are bugs.
Got the best of both worlds here... MT4G running cm7 which is basically gingerbread ..
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I had the same experience like you. I bought one of CL pretty cheap and sold it shortly after, later on i acquired 2 brand new in box Nexus S and sold it, the thing is i was never tempted to try on the phone again.
I found the same flaws you had in the Nexus S. The phone feels slow, more like a reskined vibrant with gingerbread. While i think 2.3 is nice because higher build android means always better but after using so many stock roms i don't buy the GOOGLE EXPERIENCE anymore, let me explain:
Basic things like dialer, is a pain in the a** to scroll through the call logs or contact list to call someone, yeah favorite helps but that is another extra step you have to take when making a call. HTC's dialer while overloaded it can easily search through your contact list when you touch dial their name on the numpad. Then you get the bonus of recording calls for important things you need out of the box without the need to wait for the deving team.
The stock browser sucks, no text reflow, well yes the nexus s owners will tell you to press on the zoom in/out soft buttons to reflow, again another extra steps.
Then the whole lag in a phone that is not suppossed to lag. Browser lags and the OS just doesn't feel as smooth as one hope to be, well feels smooth brand new but after some usage it starts to drag on its knees.
Well again the GOOGLE EXPERIENCE of customizing your phone the way you want is just plain old when back in the days android was in the baby stages the theme builders and custom launchers did a great job but i think that the users want something that works out of the box with higher level of customization than iOS.
I've went through 3 mytouch 4G, because my family members keept liking the phone so much that they wanted one for themselves and they are all been pleased, and none of them are android savy and cared enough about rooting or custom roms.
So in summary the nexus s is a nieche phone, the phone is for people who can put up with the shortcommings of a unfinished product and the patience of waiting for google to release updates. While new phones are released in the market every months I bet the nexus model will not have many followers after people see google released a half baked phone and OS when in a few months people can get dual core phones and LTE phones, google nexus one owners are still with their FULL GOOGLE EXPERIENCE and patiently waiting for "optimizations" from google. I just find it funny, it was a great thing with the nexus one because it was actually a great phone but the NS is just a quick wrapped product for the holiday season.
I know if I said that in the Nexus S forums, i'd get flamed because there are a bunch of nexus s owners that dropped 580 for the phone and need to somehow keep their ego high but this is how i feel about this whole nexus s phone.
So in summary if google released another phone, i'd really have to consider it because plain android is getting boring after 2 years of the same stuff from the G1, MT3G, Nexus1, G2, Nexus S...
Not to diss on custom rom builders either because custom roms takes time to build and by the time you have a very well composed rom, the phone has reached its EOL.
yes the nexus s does seem half baked, the nexus one was a solid phone and wouldn't mind picking up another one.
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I know if I said that in the Nexus S forums, i'd get flamed because there are a bunch of nexus s owners that dropped 580 for the phone and need to somehow keep their ego high but this is how i feel about this whole nexus s phone.
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LOL. I know what you mean. I still don't understand why some people with NS have no problems at all; I had two and both had the same problems. Either they immediately root their phones and put some custom roms on it or they are ignorant. I try yo get the best bang for my bucks and at the moment it is the MT4G with Froyo. I don't even want a custom rom with gingerbread 2.3.1 on my MT4G at the moment. I wait until Gingerbread includes the new music player and GTalk supports the FFC. Let's hope soon
I had the same experience. I had a Nexus S for 2 weeks and it was terribly laggy.
I sent it back. Lucky I hadn't sold my MyTouch yet because now with CM7 Gingerbread is super snappy and amazing.
I blame Samsung. I had the Vibrant before the MT4G and it sucked as well.
spimonkey34 said:
I had the same experience. I had a Nexus S for 2 weeks and it was terribly laggy.
I sent it back. Lucky I hadn't sold my MyTouch yet because now with CM7 Gingerbread is super snappy and amazing.
I blame Samsung. I had the Vibrant before the MT4G and it sucked as well.
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I actually did like the vibrant, voodoo lagfix was pretty solid but kinda sucked having to turn it off to flash another rom. Loved the screen, but overall the phone did feel cheap
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I actually did like the vibrant, voodoo lagfix was pretty solid but kinda sucked having to turn it off to flash another rom. Loved the screen, but overall the phone did feel cheap
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I agree. Post voodoo the vibrant was a beast. It's just too bad Samsung couldn't get it right out of the box.
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Regarding the screen on the NS, I just realized that I am not a big fan of SAMOLED displays. I would always prefer a SLCD. I like the bright and sharp displays over the more vibrant but less sharp SAMOLED.
I got the NS and had it for a week and returned it.
So disappointing, the worst was not having a track pad.
Same day bought a MT4G off Craigslist.
First day I hated it, the stock browser is the worst I've ever seen.
Then I got Skyfire off the market and now I think the MT4G is the best
phone I've ever used.
I'm not giving up on the Nexus line, I still have an N1, I'm just giving up on Samsung.
Is anyone here are excited about Samsung Vibrant 4G? FFC and HSPA+ up to 21mbps? but the same old style lol..what is up with Samsung? can't they change their style? hehehe
Ewww I see Samsung failed and at it again, they have a thing for repeating and screwing users over and over. IDK why people even buy Samsung based phones these days didn't they learn from being abandoned?
BTW epsix read this thread MT4G is capped at 14.4 mb's about new Vibrant 4G in this forum we all covered it there. Its just marketing gimmick hence TMO haven't officially updated the Vibrant with 2.2 OTA? You know why? due to Samsung telling them not to as there is no diff between 4G and reg Vibrant lol other than it has AOS2.2 lol man you have to love Samsung they sure thing people are crazy or something.
PS: Folks stick with MT4G is superior than NS.

SO, do you REALLY love your THUNDER bolt???

I just had to ask you guys/girls. I went to the store and this old lady in a wheel chair told the sales guy " I want the thunderbolt, where is it?" This thing is HOT?
I love it. Really a good phone...
I don't get 4G here so I think it's alright. Not the best. I'm coming from TMO and had a G2. I hate the battery life on this phone. It idles at 100+ma with the screen off as appose to my G2 which was around 30ma and my Nexus One at 3ma. But the display is really nice. I guess I'm just remorseful for leaving TMO.
Edit: just realized that all the other g2 find I was comparing this to had custom kernels so its unfair to compare both.
Phone is awesome, definitely worth the cash
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I absolutely love mine coming from a incredible. But I knew I would. Loved sense, wanted a bigger display, better gpu, and really fast 4g. It just made sense lol. ( stupid pun intended)
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I don't get 4G here so I think it's alright. Not the best. I'm coming from TMO and had a G2. I hate the battery life on this phone. It idles at 100+ma with the screen off as appose to my G2 which was around 30ma and my Nexus One at 3ma. But the display is really nice. I guess I'm just remorseful for leaving TMO.
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How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
I like the phone...but seeing how I am right on the line for 3g and 4g, I have yet to be able to fully experience the speed possiblities. The problem I have is battery life, coming from TMO and a Vibrant and an HD2, both which were far better. I'm still experimenting with settings however, and i'm sure once I root, and a few custom ROM's come out, it will be tons better. Nothing but good things can come from a piece of equipment like this.
I love most of it.. There are minor annoyances, but I don't think I've ever owned a "perfect phone". I've gone past the point of no turning back (returns) and I'm happy about it.
I left T-Mobile this past Sunday. After I heard the news of AT&T buying them out, I knew I had to move on. I was using the Galaxy S 4G, which now for sale.
Anyway, I feel that I made the right move. I really love the Thunderbolt very much! None of the phones @ TMO has anything on this bad boy. Can't even tell you how much faster the TB is over any of the 4G phones I had on TMO.
Yes I know Battery Sucks, but Cant Expect Good Gas Mileage out of a ferrari... I can look at other phones and specs, but I have tried everything, and there isnt anything that this phone doesnt do.
And of course the 2 biggest reasons for me getting it:
- LTE, amazing in Orlando, Fl
- Talk and Surf, I literally needed this, and use it a lot when I drive with maps and talking.
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How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
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battery monitor widget. Allows you to set the interval at which it updates, so you can see your phones power usage every 60 seconds if you so please.
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How do you measure that? Also, you can turn off 4g if its not available in your area.
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Current widget
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I recently sold my iphone 4 (att) and converted to android. This is my first handset. I have been LOOOOOVVVVIIINNNGGGGGG this phone. Now that i can set my phone to stay on 3g or 4g battery has improved much and the LTE speeds ive gotten in NYC are amazing. Was bored of iOS. Really loving the tinkering with this phone. Now waiting for that easy root and cyanogen Gingerbread ROM
I am in love.
I came from ATT and the Tilt2
I love VZW.
I love Android
I love the TB
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I left T-Mobile this past Sunday. After I heard the news of AT&T buying them out, I knew I had to move on. I was using the Galaxy S 4G, which now for sale.
Anyway, I feel that I made the right move. I really love the Thunderbolt very much! None of the phones @ TMO has anything on this bad boy. Can't even tell you how much faster the TB is over any of the 4G phones I had on TMO.
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I left Tmo today also. I sold my g2, and im moving on. It breaks my heart to hear that the idiots at stupid T & T are going to corrupt Tmobile. But whatever i guess...business is business.
Im picking up my thunderbolt tomorrow from work, and im not going to look back anymore. I do miss my G2 and wish i coulda used it for Verizon, but whatevs.
A lil FYI guys!
My settings currently:
LTE only
extended battery
11 hrs off charger
47% battery left. being using it a pretty good amount also. Seems cdma/lte must be what is hurting battery life.
P.S. - yes i love my thunderbolt and could never imagine returning it for a bionic or anything else in the near future honestly.
Absolutely happy, great phone, network, and best community. Can't wait for future updates! More to come!
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Well, I just rooted (ADB Method), went perfectly, debloated, running MikRom's Perfect Storm (seems great so far), and I am tethering my laptop using wifi tether and getting ridiculous speeds. Yes, I think I love my Thunderbolt!
Only thing that could make me happier about this phone is if android had as many quality apps and games as iOS.
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Yeah I love it, it was worth the wait and I'm not even in a 4G area but its what i wanted, screen size, processor, ram all to my liking and I'm anti Moto now because of eFUSE with the DX and such. X was gonna be my choice but I canceled that pre-order when I heard about the eFUSE. So HTC it is and Tbolt is just to my liking. Rooted in under 5 days and running VirusROM R1B2 and loving it.

[Q] Considering Thunderbold

I'm looking to move to Verizon (for coverage reasons - I travel in the rural midwest and plains and have issues with AT&T coverage).
I currently have a Samsung Captivate, running a Gingerbread custom rom. I have no desire to get another Samsung phone - there post release ROM development is non-existent. Don't get me started.
It seems that all of the Android phones currently on Verizon have some issue (from my perspective), but the closest to being a good all-around smartphone is the Thunderbolt.
The primary issue with the TBolt is battery life (from what I can tell).
Here's my question:
Using a stock battery and running a custom rom is it reasonable to get 14 hours of battery life with the following usage:
- 2 hours talk time
- 1 hour email
- 30 minutes web browsing
- 1 hour streaming music (OK, I could do without this)
[edit] From browsing the TBolt Dev Forums, I am leaning towards the Cl3anTh3ory ROM. [/edit]
I would have 2 email accounts - 1 GMail, set up for push notification, 1 IMAP that would poll every 30 min (using K9). I have 6 GCal's to sync and just over 300 contacts.
If I can get 14 hours, here's a follow up question: would you personally wait for the next round of phones to be announced (Sept and Oct) or would you go ahead with a TBolt for $69 (from Amazon with 2 yr contract)?
thanks,
Any future HTC released for Verizon is going to have the same basic guts as an EVO 3D with LTE. At this point, the Tbolt is right in the prime of development. The newer bases are much better in every area and I have no problems getting the kind of life you need doing a bit more than what your asking. My setup is in my sig. Being mostly on cdma, as it sounds like you would be, will stretch your battery even further. And if the stock battery doesn't do the job, the 1750mAh unit that's the same size certainly will.
More than possible. Check out gingeritis 3d and chingys 7/17 radio leak. I get over 24+ hours with average use
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Using custom roms, definitely
id wait for the tbolt successor or the gs2 to come tbh.
myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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myself, I would probably wait and see what htc announces next, or maybe the bionic if it ever hits the shelves. Depending on those releases, yeah the tbolt is a great phone that should meet your needs. It's not hard for me to swap batteries if needed, but with the newer roms, battery life is improving.
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by the time the bionic comes it will be outdated. verizon waits too long to release phones.
I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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It'd possible on monolithth3ory or cl3anth3ory.
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Those are not the only two ROMs that get that life.
Come on off the bandwagon.
this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
cobeebs said:
I'm assuming the bionic will have locked boot loaders, which a deal breaker for me. Also, not sure about a 4.5" screen... I actually prefer 4", but can live with 4.3". But 4.5"? Guess it depends on overall device size and weight.
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The only phones rumored to have larger than 4.3" screens so far are 2 Samsung phones, and they are expected to be similar to the size of current 4.3" phones because the extra screen size will most likely be in the area of the current buttons at the bottom since ice cream sandwich will not need them. The Bionic has been confirmed to be 4.3"
subsoniic said:
this is the best phone ever, and ive went through alot.. sure people complain about this and that. but ultimately imho i think its the best verizon phone hands down and built rock solid (physically) and great dev support, i bought the extended battery and never looked back.. my only problem is which theory rom to run sense or aosp lol.. but i think from att to verizon + LTE would be a great upgrade for you =]
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Where I travel on business, there is really no comparison. Verizon's coverage is sooooo much better. Thanks for the thoughts on the tb hardware.
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AT&T is no competition to Verizon.
They lack the customer service and the network to compete.
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Agreed. Although I haven't really had major issues with customer service.
I have pretty much the same use as you and I am getting about 1 1/2 days out of my phone. sometimes 2 days between charges and I am on stock battery. '
I am running the monolithth3ory rom and it is great so far. I also have ultimate juice defender running.
so get it, root it, and love it! I sure do

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