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These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package...
Edit: I'm dead wrong about the iPod's batt capacity as rajendra82 has pointed out. It was 3.4 watt hour, not 3.4 amp hours. Sorry (for the record, the iPod's batt would be terribly insufficient as a modern phone batt in a smartphone)
eatkabab said:
These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package... sigh...
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh. The Samsung Captivate has a 5.55 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 1500 mAh. Since the battery capacity is directly proportional to the volume, a battery of 3000 mAh will be twice as big as our current battery. The biggest phones today (i.e., the EVO and Droid X) only ship with a 1300 mAh battery. 1500 mAH is plenty for this phone to get through the day. Battery life is typically rated at 1000 cycles, which is 3 years assuming a full day to go from 100% to 0%. You are likely to replace the phone in 3 years any way.
Our phones do have large batteries, and as long as you don't have a bad program, have the screen on super bright, or use it as a hot spot, the battery life is going to be good enough for nearly anyone.
The captivate has a HUGE percent of the volume dedicated to the battery already, without using a non standard (non rectangular prism) battery shape the phone thickness would need to greatly increase and have wasted space.
In simpler terms, when your battery is already good for the market, a thinner phone sells more than a marginal battery lfie increase.
What about weight? Does a bigger battery weigh significantly more?
I would love to have a bigger battery or one of those battery cases like my fiancee has for her iphone. I think the above comments are spot on, but i think what companies dont take into account is how much people use their phones for on a daily basis. I dont know about you, but I use my phone a hell of a lot during the day more so than what constitutes as 'just getting through the day'. If im lucky enough to make it through till the end of the day its skirting on the red. A backup battery would be awesome to have!
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh.
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Sorry, I just realized that. I must have missed the details about the ipod power.
I understand that the captivate technically has the "best" battery, but I do not agree that it will last through the day. I'm using my phone regularly to look up information, text, Gtalk, and make many calls. The phone is dead by the time I get home around 6pm (days start around 7:30am).
the iPad has a "10 hour batt life". My sister has her iPad lying around the house but she and I are much more often on our phones, so why don't our phones have a 10 hour batt life? I think its kinda difficult to use the ipad for 10 hours in a single day seeing that people usually work too. My phone is used for productive purposes usually, so it is very easy to drain it in the 4.5hrs it lasts on any day (not to mention difficult to get through an 8hr plane ride and still have juice to find your way to the hotel when you land). Last I checked, a day was at least 8 hours, not 4.5.
I also realize that they would have to ditch the rectangle/cube form factor of the batt in order to fill the space of a larger case more efficiently (something the iphone takes advantage of). I have nothing against this (or the added weight) and I don't think any other power user would care either.
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
Sigh...
Edit: I forgot to mention Virgin America has solved all flying problems with this nifty little thing called a power receptacle in each trio of seats.
There have been at least 10 different claims in the last 5-10 years from companys saying they've found a way to at least triple battery capacity.
so far none of them have made anything...
Have you ever seen those extended batteries that also replace the back cover? They look awful. It's great that the Captivate is so slim and light.
It's unlikely that enough people need that much power every day for manufacturers to implement a huge battery in every device.
Nevertheless, it would be great to have the option.
Third party batteries that replace the back cover haven't been designed by the manufacturer to take advantage of all the space available, they're just made afterwards for the (admittedly few) people who need to stay more than 12hrs without a power source.
If a manufacturer specifically made a phone to accomodate a larger battery, the uglyness+volume/duration ratio would be much better.
Imagine a qwerty slider with a large battery instead of the keyboard: you could live with the additional volume and you could go on for two full days without a powersource.
Personally I wouldn't ever make it without a car charger, I keep a spare battery around in case I need it and even carry a retractable microUSB as a key holder (I use my phone as a music player, the battery drains FAST).
I'm ok with that but a large capacity batt. would let me not have to care about how much juice I have left all the time, wich would be great.
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At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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You're not crazy. I think about the smartphone battery problem all the time. It's by far the biggest drawback of a smartphone. Even if you are using it lightly, you still have to charge every night, that is smartphone 101. And yet, if my friend iwth a little feature phone texts me all day, and I text them back all day, there phone... is fine. They can bascially run it all day for three days before needing to charge when it's new. My Captivate (or any other smartphone)... constantly having the screen on? It would be begging for battery after hours. Now of course, we have vastly better batteries than the feature phone, it's just the smartphone is doing significantly more. But still, yes, there should be a way, possibly with non-rectangular batteries, to significantly (at least double) battery life at a not massive cost to form factor and size. And yes, I'm sure there is a market here as well.
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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Bigger battery means more weight. Some manufacturers get a little more power out of the same physical size, but if you really want to double the battery, you double the size and double the weight.
Since the phones have no extra room inside, you wind up with a bigger phone.
All manufacturers are trying to balance size, weight and power. It is no coincidence that all the smartphones have near the same size battery.
ColbyRyptos said:
This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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This post pretty much leads me to believe more is going on than you're saying. With hybrid r3 I was getting two days with heavy usage, also gps isn't functional on that rom, so claiming to use it seems to be misinformed at best
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Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
i agree that a phone with a super battery pack would be nice. me and my friends would always talk about if we could make our own phones what we would want and i always said something that would give me nice battery life so the idea i came up with was this
by default most phones come with a 1500 mah battery
but why not add a non traditional form factor to the rest of the case adding battery to and around the phone like in the area around the camera in the front of the phone around the side of the phone kinda like some of this battery jackets we see coming out for the iphone 4
i think it would add maybe just a built more bulk to the phone i'm still using a tilt so i'm used to carryin a bulky phone
i've always been interested in seeing super cap or ultra cap tech being put into a smartphone figuring if we can't go all day with our battery at least let us be able to get a full charge with in a few minutes ya know
i see ultra and super cap tech starting to be put in remotes were you can charge it in 1 minute to 5 minutes and not have to charge it for two weeks that kinda tech in a cell would be lovely
I, for one, would give up the cool looking indent in the back of the captivate (where the metal cover is) if they would fill that space with battery. It wouldn't increase the size of the phone (much), wouldn't make it bulgy, and I could see it giving at least 50% better battery life.
Even if the phone was blobby, plenty of people are buying Droid phones, and those things are frikin' mon calamari cruisers.
alphadog00 said:
Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
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obviously they would have to make the phone a tad thicker and its already so light weight that adding double the batt weight would still keep it weighing less than an Evo
the Samsung Captivate battery is pretty beefy if you ask me, I don't know how they would fit a processor and other components in the phone if they got a bigger battery
How would you compare the battery life of the Nexus S vs the Nexus One, after loading a custom rom? Would like to make the switch provided the battery life is better!
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How would you compare the battery life of the Nexus S vs the Nexus One, after loading a custom rom? Would like to make the switch provided the battery life is better!
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I get approximately the same battery life that I did with my N1 - no real improvement seen (stock or custom rom wise).
Hmmm not sure if that will make it break it for me if they are about the same. I heard some complaints about NFC draining battery, has that been solved?
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Hmmm not sure if that will make it break it for me if they are about the same. I heard some complaints about NFC draining battery, has that been solved?
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That's the first time I heard about that. I've had my NFC on (didn't notice) and have had great battery life on light use. On light use, it lasted about 24 hrs before I charged it, never used it much for that one day. NFC doesn't gobble up battery like a bad app would.
The battery life on the NS is substantially better for me than I was getting on my N1, even with a slightly larger battery on the N1 (Seidio 1600 I think it was). I'm a fairly heavy user, in my opinion, and can make it through 16-18 hours and still have some juice left to spare. My N1 would never do that on the stock battery.
I cannot remember where I read about the NFC problems, but I could of just miss read something. I will see if i can find it! Thanks for the comparisons!
my bad
I miss-read the problems with NFC, it was a general battery life problem and they asked if NFC was turned off.
...nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-s-general-discussion/10495-battery-life-observations.html
That's what I thought... I turn my nfc off. I get a bit better battery that the nexus one... but I miss my trackball... noled isn't the same. Maybe with no trackball it would be about the same.
I could see how you would miss that, do you miss the functionality of the trackball? (scrolling through text, etc)
Nope, I would use the trackball to edit but the nexus s touch screen is great.
Good to know! Thanks!
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I could see how you would miss that, do you miss the functionality of the trackball? (scrolling through text, etc)
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I am also I bit missing the trackball of my Hero. Scrolling is not a big deal. There were 2 main uses for me:
there are some sites with very small image-links or buttons, so it is easier to select links/buttons them with trackball's navigation
search requests or URLs, which are submitted with typos - that's a pain. In most applications if you will start to retype them you will have a history list, but you can only resubmit them. There are really few apps, where there is also pencil-icon to the right of history entry, which allows to edit it. While with trackball that was that easy.
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How would you compare the battery life of the Nexus S vs the Nexus One, after loading a custom rom? Would like to make the switch provided the battery life is better!
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Pleased to inform you that Mugen is working on a super extended battery! Thank You, God! So within the next two months I can lay my hands on that very good bad boy! (and I mean the phone itself). lol
I'd been thinking between the G2X and the sensation. The Sensation seems to be the perfect-pretty-much-has-all-that-I-need phone. G2X is pretty much the same, however, I want a 4.3 incher, I don't particularly care for stock Android, I currently have the HTC HD2 and quite like the Sense UI (and 3.0 just looks fantastic!). Plus the colors of icons (I’m not sure what the term is, I’m not exactly a tech head, you know) and such on the G2X, from videos I've seen...I don't know..it just looks cheap to me. *shrugs* sue me, I guess. HOWEVER!! The G2X has an extended battery with Mugen. Now for PDAs(this suddenly sounds like an out-dated term, no?), not having an extended batter is pretty much a dealbreaker! I hate the idea of my charge lasting only a few hours. Ideally, my phone should last me at least 2-3 days with moderate use and a full day with heavy use. No ifs or buts!
So anyways, moral of story:- Now I can go for the Sensation since there'll be an extended battery out soon!! yay!!
Dear [....],
Thank you for your email!
Yes, the larger battery for Sensation is under processing at the moment!
Will release within 2 months!
Please contact me if you need any additional info.
Best Regards,
Jan
any idea on capacity?
Further Update:-( I asked about the possible capacity and if there might be a protective case that will work with the phone after extended battery is inserted).
Dear [....],
Thank you for your email!
The larger size should be over 3000mAh, I don't think we will work on the protective case for this model, I need to ask our marketing team!
Because our holster sales not really good, so we only have 3 models for the holster at the moment!
Please contact me if you need any additional info.
Best Regards,
Jan
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"should be over 3000mAh"
This is good news. Have had my Sensation for a few weeks now and am looking for an extended battery.
Now if I can wait that long.... I mean I REALLY need one.
maybe you can get the chichitec or anker in the meantime. If I had the senstion now, I would.
should be over 3000mah, hmm.. keeping fingers crossed for that.
NOOB QUESTION: I have never bought a 3rd party battery. i found this one on mugen's site
http://mugenbattery.com/htc-sensation-extended-battery.htm
its 1800mAh. Is that going to be much better than the 1500 stock battery?
is quality an issue with lithium batteries?
DrewMullen said:
NOOB QUESTION: I have never bought a 3rd party battery. i found this one on mugen's site
http://mugenbattery.com/htc-sensation-extended-battery.htm
its 1800mAh. Is that going to be much better than the 1500 stock battery?
is quality an issue with lithium batteries?
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I have had the mugen 1800mAh battery for about 3 weeks and it is better than stock, by how much?, tough to answer because i use my phone differently each time I turn it on.
For example, one time i might play a few rounds of field runners and angry birds with some texts thrown in plus a few calls, next time i might just check email.
as a guide only for my use i was getting roughly 12 to 14 hours on stock, now i get about 15 hours or so..not a huge improvement but any improvement is better than none.
The reason I like the Sensation is that it is 4.3" yet still thin and sleek. With CHICHITECH 1900 battery my Sensation easily last more than a day without much tweak, and it doesn't require any special battery cover or alter the thickness of the device. There really isn't any need to use a super thick battery to make the Sensation last for 2 days, that ruins everything.
You know, I've had my Sensation for 2 weeks now and Granted I have Android Revolution 1.1.8 on it, but haven't had any bad battery issues. Although, it seems to eat the most power while I'm sleeping. But I'm pretty sure that has to do with my backup. But it hasn't bugged me at all. The phone's battery definitely lasts me the whole day and then I charge up at night.
Are you guys really getting so little battery time that a bigger battery is necessary? Cause I definitely get about 18-20 hours before I hit 20%-ish.
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You know, I've had my Sensation for 2 weeks now and Granted I have Android Revolution 1.1.8 on it, but haven't had any bad battery issues. Although, it seems to eat the most power while I'm sleeping. But I'm pretty sure that has to do with my backup. But it hasn't bugged me at all. The phone's battery definitely lasts me the whole day and then I charge up at night.
Are you guys really getting so little battery time that a bigger battery is necessary? Cause I definitely get about 18-20 hours before I hit 20%-ish.
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Yes definitely necessary. Don't know how you manage to have that much up time. Well I know I'm a heavy user but still even if I was not I know I would not achieve that much on time. Not unless I started disabling things like background sync and other stuff like turning screen brightness down.
Hmmm.... Maybe your sensation is running on both cores of the dual core processor. Lol
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Yes definitely necessary. Don't know how you manage to have that much up time. Well I know I'm a heavy user but still even if I was not I know I would not achieve that much on time. Not unless I started disabling things like background sync and other stuff like turning screen brightness down.
Hmmm.... Maybe your sensation is running on both cores of the dual core processor. Lol
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invest in tasker. i did and i really can't be any happier. not only does it do a lot of stuff that i want automatically but it makes my battery last a lot longer. i have my phone set to auto sync every 15 minutes and i have my display turned down to 40% unless i open specific apps and tasker will turn the display up under certain conditions. it really has helped me get a lot more time out of my battery so you may want to try that first instead of waiting to invest $50+ in an extended battery
I will have check tasker out. Thanks.
This is my third android device and it seems with each upgrade I am always tryingto find new ways to extend my battery life. Pretty sick of it actually. I would like to by a phone and let it do what its suppose to do with out me tweeking and hacking. This is the first time I considered buying an extended battery vs messing with battery saver and task killer apps that actually end up preventing your phone from doing as it should in the first place.
Sorry done venting. Tasker looks like it may be the diamond in the rough. Thanks for the info.
chichitec, go with it for now if you need extended battery life. I did many battery cycle and tests with the 1900mah battery and results as follow: 44+ hrs for light users. 30hrs+ for medium and power users roughly 16-20hrs battery life.
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Yes definitely necessary. Don't know how you manage to have that much up time. Well I know I'm a heavy user but still even if I was not I know I would not achieve that much on time. Not unless I started disabling things like background sync and other stuff like turning screen brightness down.
Hmmm.... Maybe your sensation is running on both cores of the dual core processor. Lol
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Definitely a good question. I have the O/C daemon running 1.72GHz in OnDemand mode, and while the screen is off 276MHz.
I have 3 GMail accounts that sync contacts, calendars and email. I have 1 IMAP email account set to check every 5 minutes during peak hours and every hour during off peak hours. I have Titanium Media Sync set to backup all my pics and Ti Backup files to my FTP server whenever there's a change. I have SMS Backup+ set to wait 3 minutes after each SMS and back it up. I have WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS on at all times. I'm also using Chainfire 3D OpenGL drivers. I'm on stock screen brightness settings as they work well. I have my Facebook account synced as well. I'm about to add Google+.
So I have a lot going on. HOWEVER, I've removed a lot of HTC stuff I didn't care about:
Not using Rosie or Sense UI stuff (other than the lock screen). I've removed all the bloatware crap like HTC Hub, HTC stocks, HTC sync, etc... I've removed HTCs navigation crap and removed any applications I'll never use like Twitter and Peep and all that other junk. I'm using ADW with a static wall paper.
Hint: Sense UI and all its animated crap as well as live wall papers eat battery power like crazy. Even if your screen is off, that stuff is still processing stuff in the background. This is why when you're using the stock *everything* this 1.2GHz dual core phone runs like a Droid X. LOL Slooooooow.
Once I got rid of that crap and put ADW on, my phone became the super fast power-sipping monster it is now. Rare is the case of any lag or stuttering. Games fly and look fantastic. And everything works perfectly on my phone.
So there you have it... You can compare your setup to mine and tell me if you see where your phone's battery is getting drained like crazy.
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By the way, I'm using Android Revolution 1.1.8 right now on the Unity v5 kernel.
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invest in tasker. i did and i really can't be any happier. not only does it do a lot of stuff that i want automatically but it makes my battery last a lot longer. i have my phone set to auto sync every 15 minutes and i have my display turned down to 40% unless i open specific apps and tasker will turn the display up under certain conditions. it really has helped me get a lot more time out of my battery so you may want to try that first instead of waiting to invest $50+ in an extended battery
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Hey all,
I’ve been having some issues with the hard drive on my G2 and getting it exchanged through warranty. I’m looking into selling it and picking up a new Sensation on eBay instead. I have a few questions and wanted to get your opinion on the device as I’m a little on the fence. With my G2 I like the stability, screen size and battery life. However I don’t like the thickness, I never use the keyboard and I hate the loose hinge. I like how HTC built the Sensation- it has a larger screen but it is by no means is it a huge phone.
- How is the ‘out-of-box software’ experience? I’m not one to install a different ROM or root and I’m a Mac user with no access to a PC. I liked the G2 ‘almost stock Android’ software and it was very reliable. Do you find it buggy? How bad is the bloatware?
- How is the battery life? This is one of the best features of the G2. It can last a very long day with many tasks. I don’t use a lot of battery-draining activities. I generally check text, email, twitter, Facebook, news and Google Reader throughout the day. Will I get a full day with the Sensation?
Thanks for your advice in advance.
Much poor battery life. With normal usage, it lasts only around half a day. If your criteria is "at least a good battery life", then htc sensation should definitely not be an option for you.
Sometimes i wanna SUE the HTC
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battery life will vary, mine is typically about 2 days with medium usage. Check out craigslist, I picked up mine for $230, unlocked it and rooted before I started using it. Cant go wrong with this phone
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Much poor battery life. With normal usage, it lasts only around half a day. If your criteria is "at least a good battery life", then htc sensation should definitely not be an option for you.
Sometimes i wanna SUE the HTC
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You shouldn't speak for all Sensation users.
I've found my battery life excellent, with fair-moderate use it lasts approximately 36 hours for me using CM7 build 4.
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You shouldn't speak for all Sensation users.
I've found my battery life excellent, with fair-moderate use it lasts approximately 36 hours for me using CM7 build 4.
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He have right man, with normal use the battery lasts around half of day. Mine and to ather 4 mine friend is asame ! And we have all android on it. Windows it keept more of course but default is Android on them and we love it as it is. If u want CM7 on it is your misunderstood desire. But we do not care how you get on your phone with Windows. If I want to take my toy figurines taken from the store of toy figurines, right ?
Thanks for the fast responses. After doing some searching, it looks like a lot of people have picked up the Anker battery eBay and have seen excellent results extending battery life. I think with that I could get through a long day.
Will rooting/s-off and removing bloatware help battery life? Also, do you need to have a Windows PC to root/s-off?
Thanks.
This phone stock is terrible compared to rooted. Almost any custom rom is better than stock, battery and performance wise.
The phones good at stock but fairly sluggish, if your keeping it stock its prob not going to be better than the sg2
Also I think u can root from a mac
The stock software is not terrible! I'm not rooted, got launcher pro on it and its very fast! Sense is pretty nice though but lacks when it comes to customising.
You don't need to root to be able to customise the phone a lot. I picked up an anker battery and I like it. With light use I can get 30+ hours. With normal use like you described, texts calls emails facebook browsing the odd game I can easily make it through the day. With heavy use ie lots of screen time you might have to plug it in before bedtime. Depends how long your day is I suppose!
I don't regret buying this phone at all. It's a beautiful device.
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I am totally stock but S-OFF. In my opinion, you do not need to root or flash custom rom's to appreciate this device. Out of the box, the sensation is already an amazing phone. I don't understand why other people keep saying that it is slow, maybe they have a faulty handset. For me it is very fast! You can't go wrong with this phone.
Is 'root' and 'S-off' not the same thing?
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Nevermind after some searching, I learned the difference.
s-off means security off...... you need to s-off the device in order to write data into the nand as i understand it(anyone can corect me if im wrong.) root gives you root access to the device and with it you can remove or freeze the bloat ware on your phone. two entirely different things
back on topic: i love my sensation. i get through the day at work without charging it. my usuage is mainly text (heavy text) but i do check facebook, and read news and the occasional phone call. im rooted also but runnin stock rom with bloat ware removed and it works just fine for me. just like yourpassanger said the stock rom is not terrible at all.
Lol have u tried custom roms? I'm telling you android revolution is a lot smoother than stock. I regretted getting this phone till I rooted it, now I'm glad I've got it
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beberobu said:
He have right man, with normal use the battery lasts around half of day. Mine and to ather 4 mine friend is asame ! And we have all android on it. Windows it keept more of course but default is Android on them and we love it as it is. If u want CM7 on it is your misunderstood desire. But we do not care how you get on your phone with Windows. If I want to take my toy figurines taken from the store of toy figurines, right ?
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Dude, what are you talking about?
And, where in this thread was there any mention of running windows on our phones?
mstyle88 said:
Hey all,
I’ve been having some issues with the hard drive on my G2 and getting it exchanged through warranty. I’m looking into selling it and picking up a new Sensation on eBay instead. I have a few questions and wanted to get your opinion on the device as I’m a little on the fence. With my G2 I like the stability, screen size and battery life. However I don’t like the thickness, I never use the keyboard and I hate the loose hinge. I like how HTC built the Sensation- it has a larger screen but it is by no means is it a huge phone.
- How is the ‘out-of-box software’ experience? I’m not one to install a different ROM or root and I’m a Mac user with no access to a PC. I liked the G2 ‘almost stock Android’ software and it was very reliable. Do you find it buggy? How bad is the bloatware?
- How is the battery life? This is one of the best features of the G2. It can last a very long day with many tasks. I don’t use a lot of battery-draining activities. I generally check text, email, twitter, Facebook, news and Google Reader throughout the day. Will I get a full day with the Sensation?
Thanks for your advice in advance.
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You sound like you have a functional brain in your head that actually uses some common sense.
Good.
The phone as I received it is nice,not perfect .... there's no such thing.
Eeyup,there's some useless app's installed,but for someone else they're probably perfect.
I haven't rooted mine because of the warranty factor.
I'm waiting on an Anker battery.
That should make the experience a little nicer.
Let's face it: The more you use the phone like a pocket computer,the harder the processor works and the more battery power it uses.
Therefore,if you use it like a laptop,you'd better be packing some spare batteries or a Mugen 3500.
Otherwise it's a nicely built little phone,with a great screen and good processing power.
Hi, I'm planning on purchasing an HTC Sensation now that I've gotten rid of my iPhone 4.
I do have some issues regarding the purchase. I've seen threads commenting on dust collecting under screen and a poor battery life. Are these issues common on the phone? And if they are, is it possible to clean out the screen when the issue occurs? I've heard about a 1900mAh battery so I guess that's a better fix for the battery.
I'm on a T-Mobile family plan with no data plan. If I purchase an unlocked Sensation, will T-Mobile automatically add a data plan to my line? This happened to me when I used my iPhone 4 I got as a present on my AT&T line.
Thanks!
Not had my phone for all that long so I can't comment on the dust under the screen issue yet. But for battery life there are a few things that can be done, if you root your phone you can get SetCPU and underclock your phone when it's screen is off to extend the battery life or get Juice Defender, which disables wifi and data when the screen is off but turns them back on every 15 minutes to allow it to sync and will then turn them off again to save battery.
But even without a rooted phone, although the battery life certainly isn't good it will just about get you through a long day. But obviously you can also get a 19000mAh battery or even a further extended one as well as an external battery that can charge your phone up providing you don't mind carrying one around.
Also, can the Sensation play flash videos natively? I've heard some mixed claims regarding that.
I have had the Sensation for quite some time now and I don't have one spec of dust under my screen. And battery life is good. It last me through the day but I bought the Anker 1900mAh battery because it is so cheap and so amazing lol.
I would recommend the Sensation to anyone.
Anker 10,000 maH battery......
I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
UnixSlayer said:
I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
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wow,
douche early?
to the op. just swap out the sim card and dont change a thing.. you will be fine.
picked up mine slightly used. no issues.. am running the 1900 battery.
great phone..
beers
I have an XE, great screen, no dust and good battery life.
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Dust under the screen is a common issue, but it's only a lot more common than it should be - the number of Sensations affected is still a very low amount. The safest way to take care of it is to go through T-Mo or HTC and they'll clean it out. Trying to do it yourself will definitely void the warranty cause you'll have to dismantle the phone.
Battery can be terrible, but a chichitec, anker, or mugen 1900mAh battery along with a good rom/kernel/clockspeed combo fixes that. I'm on Android HD 3.x gingerbread with the stock kernel, clocked at 1.5Ghz when the screen is on, 768Mhz when it's off, heavy user and I can make it through the day. The other thing to consider is how you use the phone. The Super-LCD looks crazy crisp, and it is, sunlight visibility is great and color reproduction is nice - although it's no SAMOLED. Here's the problem though, it's a mega power drainer. If you listen to a lot of music on your phone or maybe stream Pandora comedy, you shouldn't have any issues. If you're an all-day facebooker or constantly texting/emailing, that screen will destroy your battery and I couldn't recommend the phone, as much as I love it Don't get me wrong, you could do it, but you'll probably need a spare battery or a charger with you.
With the 1900mAh battery, I can have the screen on constantly and texting/emailing/browsing for about 3 hours straight. If I keep the screen on and play games, 2 and a half hours. Not much difference even though one is a lot more intensive than the other. The S-LCD panel is a huge battery drain.
I haven't had any problems with dust under the screen.
Battery life great for the amount of time i use the phone everyday (screenshot attached).
If you're up for it i'd suggest you flash a custom ROM to use the full potential of the phone. Personally i like Android Revolution HD, but it's all down to personal preference. Try a few different ones and use what you like the most.
Hi guys!
First things first:
Happy New Year to everyone!
I'm thinking of an upgrade (from HTC Vision & iPhone 4S) and looking at Sensation as an option and I've got a few questions regarding that.
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around? I remember RMK jumped from G2 to sensation, and he's still here, how about others? Any rumors or plans to abandon Sensation? I'd imagine alot of them getting the new GN, I can't really be bothered, rather have an option between Sense and AOSP.
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
slovoflud said:
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
sshede said:
It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
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thanks!
what abouts this?
any thoughts?
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around?
Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
aspot72 said:
Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
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Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
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Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
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Disappointing? Nothing . Only issue I had, was the "volume ghost", but after flashing 4.0.2 all OK. It's different device and as I was hard addict to Sense, I'm surprised how quickly get used to GNex. Love it
i have no dust on my screen yet. i buy it 3 month ago.
ps:i come from China.hah
The dust problem is annoying, but it's no problem to get a new phone when the first one has dust under the screen. The Akku is okey for one day full use, when you load it every night. When you need better akku there are good ones with 1900mAh, on Amazon Germany for example the one by Anker.
Thanks for the input everybody!
Regarding the data plan. I currently have a family plan with no data. When I purchase my Sensation on ebay or any other auction site, and then use my T-Mobile sim, will I automatically be added a data plan?