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Does this mean we might not see Netflix on Gtab?

Hi,
I just ran across this:
http://mobiputing.com/2011/02/qualcomm-netflix-to-bring-streaming-tv-and-movies-to-android/
I'm not knowledgeable about DRM issues, but that sounds like Netflix might only do an app on Android tabs that use a Qualcomm chip?
Then again, Netflix has app for Ipad/IPod, so...?
Any thoughts on this?
Netflix is one of the things that I've been waiting for on my Gtab ...
Jim

Jim,
Could be. But I read elsewhere earlier today that "Playon" -- whatever that is -- is developing a way for other android users.
I think there even was a thread here where someone was doing something with Playon to get Netflix.
It will be a sad day if they abandon the rest of Androiddom!
Rev

Why are we sitting back taking such crap. I think we should all consider cancelling Netflix because of this. Why are they punishing us yet again?
If they are so worried about piracy, the service should not be on PCs.
I'm tired of companies trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
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goalweiser said:
Why are we sitting back taking such crap. I think we should all consider cancelling Netflix because of this. Why are they punishing us yet again?
If they are so worried about piracy, the service should not be on PCs.
I'm tired of companies trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
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Exactly! I just had this argument with my friend. There is way less of a piracy issue on android than on a PC. Are they scared of apple getting mad? Netflix didn't give a sh¡t about pissing on Microsoft when they broke the Xbox exclusive contract, so why they shy about android. You don't pee in bill gates eye and then all of a sudden be afraid of giving Steve jobs the finger.

butchconner said:
Jim,
Could be. But I read elsewhere earlier today that "Playon" -- whatever that is -- is developing a way for other android users.
I think there even was a thread here where someone was doing something with Playon to get Netflix.
It will be a sad day if they abandon the rest of Androiddom!
Rev
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Hi,
I've been following that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935616&highlight=netflix
but was/am really hoping that we'd see a 'native' Netflix that could run on the Gtab ...
I've also seen some comments that Honeycomb might have some DRM capabilities built-in that might get Netflix to allow an Android apparently.
Still hoping!!
Jim

Music beta, I just don't get google sometimes

http://www.neowin.net/news/googles-...ted?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Wow, wtf?!? That's all I can say.
//Tap'd on my TBolt while grounded\\

wow smfh this is not cool Google -___-

Music works just fine.
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had absolutely nothing to do with the music beta though...

If you are mad at google, you have no idea what is going on.

Totally unsurprising, and not unreasonable.
+1 to g00s3y.

This has NOTHING to do with the music beta...

I find it unreasonable. This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures. The reason I can be sure is the moronic logic. Anyone willing to pay in the first place wouldn't be the pirate type. Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it? They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy. Also if you are smart enough to root a phone, you can certainly fire up a torrent. Shame on Google for bending over to the mpaa and movie studios. Can't say I care all that much though. The studios are shooting themselves in the foot. People will only take so much bull**** and keep dealing with it. If only they had even half a clue what consumers want.
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I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?

@darkroom. I agree with u. There is always get movies n music for free. Y screw those who may actually possibly want to save themselves the footwork and actually cough up the money to buy it..
That and in time a hack will be made to bypass the check for rooted devices. Google should know that already ... as they said themselves that as long as there is security in place there will be a procedure to bypass it...
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darkrom said:
I find it unreasonable.
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Then, you have the option of not paying for Google videos. That will show them. Isn't the free market great?
This was clearly done at the whim of the movie studios in the name of anti piracy measures.
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Your point being?
Who is going to pay to watch it just to pirate it?
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Of course you're right, because pirates always create their own content, they never start with something that was paid for (camcorder in a theater, unencrypting a DVD, etc.).
They are making it so people who root their phones can't pay for the content. That leaves one way to view it, piracy.
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Really? The only device you can watch video on is your phone? Almost everyone else has a range of choices - theater, DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, TV, etc. Phones pretty much suck for watching movies, they have small screens and poor audio. The market continues to move toward large screen home theater systems. You don't know what you're missing.

I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited... If they want to play nice with the corporate world, doors are going to get shut on our faces. At least that's how I see it...

Yeah, lets say screw the law, google will just pay all the lawsuits that they get, no problem. Some of you are idiots.

whytecountry said:
I fear that Android's time as a fully-open platform is limited...
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Huh? Android was never "a fully open platform." The kernel (only) is licensed under the GPL, but most of the rest is licensed under Apache or similar, which has no requirement to provide source. Google makes everything fully available to hardware manufacturers only. That they've made most of it available to anyone is through their generosity, it's got nothing to do with being "open" in the FOSS sense.
What _is_ "open" is application development and distribution - no need to get the gardener to pot your plant inside the wall.
Don't like Google's terms for their forthcoming movie rental biz? Write your own app, and start your own competing one. Google hasn't done anything to stop you.

At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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jalen156 said:
At the end of the day 10 dollars is too much for a movie. There are way more professions that should make that kinda money. Teachers and doctor's and people like that should be the paid people not the producer who gave input of a video. I'll pirate till they choose to reduce they product
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So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.

Good to see a few people see how reasonable this is. To Google consumers, developers and the 'big wigs' come first, not the tinkers and hackers. As others stated, Google is in the business of making money.
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mike.s said:
So, you rationalize your illegal actions, instead of just avoiding the product altogether. You're the problem, not the solution.
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Probably thinks $2.99 is too much for an app that he uses everyday too.

Berzerker7 said:
I mean...they're all businesses looking to make money. How would you feel if the product you guys worked hard on was being stolen and you weren't getting hard-earned money for it?
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Thanks man, I work in the film industry and never can seem to get the point across that its how i support my family. People seem to have the perspective today that well i don't have the money then they buy a case of beer or something and download a movie and its no big deal. Its just like software developers you need to support the community and I'm sure most do but I can't blame the studios for protecting their lively hood. Pirating moves does effect people. However I am a rooted user and still feel its to bad I can't buy movies on a rooted device as I would on a regular basis.

Google announces privacy changes across products; users can’t opt out

Do you think anyone can develope a program to prevent google from capturing this information about their users? Maybe at least on a android based platform even. This really chaps my a$$
Code:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-tracks-consumers-across-products-users-cant-opt-out/2012/01/24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboNE_b

Whats the big deal? Google cuts down on paperwork and the policies haven't changed, they are just merged/ It eliminated redundancies and wasted effort.
what difference does it make if you are giving your personal information to Gmail or to youtube? If google has it, Google has it, period. It is still a Google based service, combining the private policies of all of the services into one makes perfect sense.
Google has stated they still have no plans to change how they handle the data.

The big deal is I NEVER CLICK YES for gooble to collect anything on me, which means I "opt-out" now I have a contract on a phone I dont want to touch. great, a 700$ paperweight , not including the service. screw you google.

I will not tap "yes" for google
Are you sure that they are 700 $?

Rage! An ad/marketing company makes my OS and wants to show me ads relevant to me rather than random ads. A company wants to make money off of a product they've created and are heavily vested in? Who'd have thunk it?
Don't like it? There's other choices out there. WP7 is pretty hot ;-)

z33dev33l said:
Rage! An ad/marketing company makes my OS and wants to show me ads relevant to me rather than random ads. A company wants to make money off of a product they've created and are heavily vested in? Who'd have thunk it?
Don't like it? There's other choices out there. WP7 is pretty hot ;-)
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Wait til wp7 phones get ads lol
Have to say though to op its not like google are pushing ads to your device. If you browse net you get same problem. I think they have messed up somewhere cos on my laptop I always get ads for things I already have. But I don't get ads on my phone unless on a webpage or using an ad funded app so no different to a pc or any internet device.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Wait til wp7 phones get ads lol
Have to say though to op its not like google are pushing ads to your device. If you browse net you get same problem. I think they have messed up somewhere cos on my laptop I always get ads for things I already have. But I don't get ads on my phone unless on a webpage or using an ad funded app so no different to a pc or any internet device.
Dave
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Microsoft is a software company, Google is a marketing company.

z33dev33l said:
Microsoft is a software company, Google is a marketing company.
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Hence the lol
But the point is google aren't sending ads any different than on a pc. Whatever phone pc or tablet people use makes no difference, google and others can and do still collect data when you browse.
And some collect other data even when you opt out such as wp7 collecting user data that caused them to get sued last year. Its impossible to have a smartphone and not have someone collect data of some sort.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Hence the lol
But the point is google aren't sending ads any different than on a pc. Whatever phone pc or tablet people use makes no difference, google and others can and do still collect data when you browse.
Dave
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I am not fond of google. I use Bing and have visited YouTube maybe 3 times this year. That said, Bing does the same thing to me.

Well **** that.. i am going back to Symbian s60v3... At least i wont have the damn adds
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Xxul said:
Well **** that.. i am going back to Symbian s60v3... At least i wont have the damn adds
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Lmao.
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z33dev33l said:
I use Bing...Bing does the same thing to me.
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Bing probably does other things that would scare the hell out of you if you were aware of them. Google is nosy. M$ is evil.
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Crashdamage said:
Bing probably does other things that would scare the hell out of you if you were aware of them. Google is nosy. M$ is evil.
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Color me intrigued, what makes Microsoft more evil than google?

What would be the best way to avoid this?
a problem I could see is if like, I have my son over on a weekend and he jumps on...idk, nickelodeon. com or something, will it show ads for all the porn sites I visit?
I sure as hell wouldn't want him reporting that to his mother and even possibly the appropriate authorities...

just curious but in what way is this different, if not dramatically worse, than everything CarrierIQ was accused of a few months back.

I wonder if this will affect things like StartPage which bills itself as being completely private but is "enhanced by Google"

This is why I have dead email addresses. I've got one for Gmail just for my phone. Never use it for anything else. Just the phone.
Don't Be Evil, just make lots and lots of money.

The real problem is the internet. There are always the spammers that get a kick out of just breaking someone else's things, and that's why almost all websites log things. It also creates privacy concerns for those trying to follow the rules. So if it bothers you so much that Google knows you search for a laptop, and it suggests that there is a better, cheaper one, next time you use gmail, then you have problems. I personally love this, now when I go between Google services, I don't have to log in again. Google provides you with great services for free, why not give them the ability to advertise to you? The world is dangerous, get over it.
Or you could do the most practical thing, ad block. Its on Firefox and chrome, so that should cover almost everybody. If your stuck with ie, well, god help you.
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dead78 said:
just curious but in what way is this different, if not dramatically worse, than everything CarrierIQ was accused of a few months back.
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Carrier IQ records keystrokes, text messages and other private stuff Google does not. And without even telling anyone it was there.
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nazsa said:
The big deal is I NEVER CLICK YES
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You agreed to their terms of service. As has been pointed out, the information is used so they can show ads that pertain to you specifically. I view this as a good thing.
If you don't want a company to know your browsing and purchasing habits, you should buy a cabin in the woods and live off the grid, no electronics, no grocery stores, completely self sufficient.
Good luck!

Massive Android malware op may have infected 5 million users

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._malware_op_may_have_infected_5_million_users
Computerworld - The largest-ever Android malware campaign may have duped as many as 5 million users into downloading infected apps from Google's Android Market, Symantec said today.
Dubbed "Android.Counterclank" by Symantec, the malware was packaged in 13 different apps from three different publishers, with titles ranging from "Sexy Girls Puzzle" to "Counter Strike Ground Force." Many of the infected apps were still available on the Android Market as of 3 p.m. ET Friday.
Edit:Credit for this goes to Gio from The Collective.

Thanks for heads up Tx!
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Some say the Android Market isn't safe, but the problem are the users themselves, people just download any app from the Market thinking they are safe...
it's just like going tho the supermarket and not looking at expiration dates in food, then going home and getting diarrhea because you ate something rotten. hahaha
And that's only from the Android Market, imagine the people who install hacked apps and stuf..

mateusm said:
Some say the Android Market isn't safe, but the problem are the users themselves, people just download any app from the Market thinking they are safe...
it's just like going tho the supermarket and not looking at expiration dates in food, then going home and getting diarrhea because you ate something rotten. hahaha
And that's only from the Android Market, imagine the people who install hacked apps and stuf..
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I think that Google should do a better job of scanning/screening apps before they're released for mass consumption. This should be the first line of defense, but as you stated, it ultimately comes down to the end user being smart about what they install.

Agreed. It all comes back to why we get irritated at some new users posting when they have a problem and post before looking for the answer.......they dont want to read. Good practice would be to read the reviews before downloading.
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http://www.noticeorange.com/StoryBo...RpY2VvcmFuZ2VyDQsSBFNpdGUY2pTyFww&font_size=9
Maybe premature
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That ****ing sucks. There's always an asshole out there trying to **** **** up.

bluizzo said:
http://www.noticeorange.com/StoryBo...RpY2VvcmFuZ2VyDQsSBFNpdGUY2pTyFww&font_size=9
Maybe premature
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Well I don't know where Lookout gets their information about not calling it malware but according to wikipedia
Malware, short for malicious software, is software (or script or code) designed to disrupt computer operation, gather sensitive information, or gain unauthorized access to computer systems. It is a general term used to describe any kind of software or code specifically designed to exploit a computer, or the data it contains, without consent.[1] The expression is a general term used by computer professionals to mean a variety of forms of hostile, intrusive, or annoying software.
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But that sounds exactly like what this software is. And I have seen it before on my phone. It doesn't matter how careful you are even if you do read the reviews on the market. I had a free game called Bocce Ball. It had great reviews. Had it for many months. Then one day it wouldn't work unless I updated it. Low and behold I had notifications pushed to my notification bar, my homepage was hijacked, and I had search icons on my homescreen.
There lies why apple may be superior and I hate to admit it. It actually is in control of everything that gets posted on it's market. And with the variety of OS versions out there for android, Android is starting to look like Windows more and more everyday.

People will download anything these days..
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psych0naut said:
That ****ing sucks. There's always an asshole out there trying to **** **** up.
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This is your one and only warning. That type of language has no place here.
Now to remain on topic. Things like this will always happen. Same with PC. If you are not careful then you get a virus. Learn to be careful and your good.

suggestions? use avg?

willwoodham0526 said:
suggestions? use avg?
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Best advice is use common sense. Read all permissions before installing and only install apps from the official marketplaces. Anti virus software really are pointless.!

I use webroot secure anywhere, it works very well.

jimcasey1768 said:
I use webroot secure anywhere, it works very well.
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And how did you come to that conclusion? Did it actually catch something? Or the fact that it didn't you presume you are clean?

Tx Redneck said:
... the malware was packaged ... with titles ranging from "Sexy Girls Puzzle" to "Counter Strike Ground Force."
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Gee. I wonder who their target audience is. Oversexed, impulsive teenage to twenty-something boys, perhaps?

Yeah, if you ask me, "Sexy Girls Puzzle" just screams malware.

that sucks man, thank you for the warning!

Look at the letter I got regarding Google Wallet

Not sure if this is something that has been posted in this forum before, but I got a letter from Verizon regarding my FCC complaint about Google Wallet.
Thought it was worth sharing...

This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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Shibby87 said:
This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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Exactly. Also, if it's such a limitation, then why does it work on Sprint? Doesn't the Sprint S3 have the same internals as the Verizon S3?

You guys are crybabies. I just came from Sprint and if you think Verizon is so awful you should probably go tale a look elsewhere. We'll see ya when you come crawling back
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Shibby87 said:
This is just utter bs.. Makes me sick to be a Verizon customer. So according to them they don't block Google Wallet, but then they go on to explain that any app that integrates with the secure element will be blocked.. So why diddnt they just say that in the first place? I'm sure this is just an excuse for them to force us to use their ****ty take on wallet, and you can be damn sure their app integrates with the secure element, hypocrits. How is it that every other carrier has it available and we don't? So it sounds like if we want official Google Wallet for our devices without editing the build prop, Google will have to release a device under Verizon with it preinstalled. Wow, just wow.
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Wow I must be out of the loop but please tell me besides sprint what carriers officially support Google Wallet?

I believe Verizon has stated that they won't provide ISIS access to Nexus devices either as they are not certified for their BLAH BLAH security reasons BLAH. I do believe Google is tinkering on a work around for this stuff. At least they didn't go to the effort of disabling NFC entirely like other carriers have.

Gordon Ramsay said:
You guys are crybabies. I just came from Sprint and if you think Verizon is so awful you should probably go tale a look elsewhere. We'll see ya when you come crawling back
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Not about being a cry baby, just wrong, how we're restricted
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Wow, this is kinda messed up. Hopefully google can find a way around this, the carriers definitely have too much control over android to be able to have limitations like this in place.
Would be nice if google had full control over the android ecosystem, especially for things like updates, but thankfully we can root and use custom roms to get around the updates issue (especially us VZ users since they're always last to push updates).

Chris123NT said:
Wow, this is kinda messed up. Hopefully google can find a way around this, the carriers definitely have too much control over android to be able to have limitations like this in place.
Would be nice if google had full control over the android ecosystem, especially for things like updates, but thankfully we can root and use custom roms to get around the updates issue (especially us VZ users since they're always last to push updates).
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Yeah Google is finding a way around this. In about a year they'll have a big workaround with a little help from dish network hopefully Make sure to start selling any stock you have in the big telcos right now.

sbell7105 said:
Wow I must be out of the loop but please tell me besides sprint what carriers officially support Google Wallet?
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Us cellular does.

meh I dont need wallet anyways...im still quite capable of pulling cash or plastic out of my pocket to pay.

Imatoasta said:
Yeah Google is finding a way around this. In about a year they'll have a big workaround with a little help from dish network hopefully Make sure to start selling any stock you have in the big telcos right now.
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Dish Network? The red-headed stepchild of the content provider industry? Are you seriously looking for Dish to solve anything here? Dish helping Google makes as much sense as TomTom helping Apple with their maps... and we all know how smoothly THAT'S going.

sRDennyCrane said:
Dish Network? The red-headed stepchild of the content provider industry? Are you seriously looking for Dish to solve anything here? Dish helping Google makes as much sense as TomTom helping Apple with their maps... and we all know how smoothly THAT'S going.
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Yes, the red headed step child with tons of wireless spectrum. It'll either be them or T-Mobile.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...orts-dish-networks-plan-for-a-mobile-network/

Send to Google
Send this letter to Google and see if they will respond to it in any way.

Droid life picked up on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...ys-google-needs-to-change-the-app/#more-91621

bobAbooE said:
Droid life picked up on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...ys-google-needs-to-change-the-app/#more-91621
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So has The Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751538/verizon-google-wallet-galaxy-nexus-secure-element

ibm9001 said:
So has The Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/10/3751538/verizon-google-wallet-galaxy-nexus-secure-element
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I received a very similar letter from Verizon from a person named Fred Powell. I sent a letter directly to the FCC responding to his BS about the secure element. I haven't heard back yet.
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Greg Tolan said:
I received a very similar letter from Verizon from a person named Fred Powell. I sent a letter directly to the FCC responding to his BS about the secure element. I haven't heard back yet.
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this person who responded must have read my letter because I explicity destroyed them on the fact that other mcommerce apps can be used but not wallet so their argument is bunk. Google updated walled to be used not in the secure element in late July I believe. I'll find my letter when i go home. Eff Verizon.

Imatoasta said:
Yes, the red headed step child with tons of wireless spectrum. It'll either be them or T-Mobile.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...orts-dish-networks-plan-for-a-mobile-network/
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I'd be ecstatic if Tmobile went into a partnership with Google. Insta drop Big Red. My magenta coverage is great in Baltimore.
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FYI, I dropped the story to Droid-Life thanks to you guys (ItsASamsung is my alternate usertag). I like the way phonearena put it best.
So, the official reason why Verizon isn't allowing Google Wallet is because it requires interaction with a "secure element" (aka NFC-chip), and that secure element isn't available on all Verizon handsets. Following this logic, Verizon will have to be careful when Isis is launched on the network (currently it is only testing on T-Mobile), and not allow users who haven't purchased NFC-enabled SIM cards to download and install Isis, or else the company would look quite hypocritical.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
FYI, I dropped the story to Droid-Life thanks to you guys (ItsASamsung is my alternate usertag). I like the way phonearena put it best.
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This is what I was thinking when I saw this on the verge. So ISIS does not use a secure element?