How to manage music in Windows Phone 7? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm kind of an exception case for music, where I hunt for all my music via music blogs. The problem with this is that most of the songs I download aren't part of an album, and most of the time are pre releases, or bootlegs.
In these situations how do I organize my music through zune?!
Editing tag information in Zune REQUIRES an album name. Adding albums that don't have an album name are tagged "Unknown Album {Date Added}".
Is there any way to just have the songs without album names hidden? I've even tried using a space, but then it started grouping all of those together as an unknown album .
Other than that do you guys have a particular way in how you organize music?

mesofly said:
So I'm kind of an exception case for music, where I hunt for all my music via music blogs. The problem with this is that most of the songs I download aren't part of an album, and most of the time are pre releases, or bootlegs.
In these situations how do I organize my music through zune?!
Editing tag information in Zune REQUIRES an album name. Adding albums that don't have an album name are tagged "Unknown Album {Date Added}".
Is there any way to just have the songs without album names hidden? I've even tried using a space, but then it started grouping all of those together as an unknown album .
Other than that do you guys have a particular way in how you organize music?
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Uhm. I would just make a bogus album name (aka song name). There's no way to just have album so just do it that way. You can always just look at different ways to look at ur music, by artist, song, etc...

Zedox said:
Uhm. I would just make a bogus album name (aka song name). There's no way to just have album so just do it that way. You can always just look at different ways to look at ur music, by artist, song, etc...
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That's what I do for any artist where I have b-sides or demos in addition to the regular albums. I create an album called 'singles' and group all the non-album tracks under those. You could create different albums like this; demos, singles, bootlegs, etc.

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[RESOLVED] Adding CD Cover Images for MP3's w/o one

To add custom CD covers for music in TF3D, you need to first create the image in 256x256 w/ 82 DPI. Title the file ~hTC_<Album Name Goes Here>.jpg and move it into your My Music folder on your Fuze. Once it's there, go in and set the properties to hidden on the album cover.
Now, to get the image to show up on music that's already loaded onto your Fuze, just load each song individually. As of now, that's the only solution I've found for making the images show up. Any other hints or tips will be added to this first post as I see them. Feel free to post your own.
Apparently you can also embed the album art on your PC and it will tag along wherever the MP3 is moved to. (Thanks Kerensky97)
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For instance when I add some Shinedown songs from the new Us and Them album, the cover is there but when I put James Blunt on, I get the standard empty one. Anyway you can assign images to all your music?
KevinACrider said:
For instance when I add some Shinedown songs from the new Us and Them album, the cover is there but when I put James Blunt on, I get the standard empty one. Anyway you can assign images to all your music?
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I have noticed that most music players require that you place an album cover photo in .jpg format and name the cover either "folder" or "cover". Place the ablum cover in a folder with your music. Some players will show some of the embedded album art but not all of the embedded album art. Using the method I mentioned above works for most players.
Separate your music into seperate folders (I separate by album, artist and sometimes by type of music, then place an album cover in .jpg format into the folder and name the album art "folder". All the songs in that folder witht that album art should display that particular album art when playing.
If you put all you mixed songs into one folder and put one album art using the method mentioned above you will always see the same album cover for every song - this is why you will want to separate your music.
This works for me using Windows media player, TCPMP, S2P, and Mort Player.
I'm using the standard music player in TF3D. I have my music sorted into folders by the first letter of the artist but I don't see the same album art for all artists starting with S. I did see the art, I'll try to figure out the format and see if I can finagle it.
I dont have TF3D So I really can't say how it would work for that since I havn't tried it. you can try to embedd the art manually into each song. use something like Media Monkey (which you can download for free) to try embedding album art to you songs. I usually get my album art from this web site
http://www.albumart.org/
All my album art(jpg) is embedded in the MP3 metadata using Mp3tag and it all shows up fine in TF3D. It obviously checks that tag to see if you have it so no need for additional files in your folders (although I wonder which it will prefer if you have both?).
Do it to all your music on your computer and you can copy/paste/cut/rearrange your songs however you want and the art will always follow.

SOLVED: Album Art missing on most. (also Unknown Artist)

I transferred a bunch of music over using MediaMonkey, but most albums are missing album art. All the folders have a *.alb file, but no album cover shows up when i use the music player.
I have used MP3tag to view my tags, but nothing stands out as bad. 2 albums with all fields filled in, one shows album art, the other doesn't. Out of 20 albums i transferred over, only 4 show album art.
Any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT - other issues include "unknown artist" and it seems to be M4A files (AAC) Only.
I too use mediamonkey and the best way to have album art show for a song is to embed that art directly into the song's file. To do this in mediamonkey, sort by album, then highlight all songs of the same album and right click and press auto-tag from web. It will try to find the album art and you will embed it directly into the song. That way any media player will be able to show the album art.
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I too use mediamonkey and the best way to have album art show for a song is to embed that art directly into the song's file. To do this in mediamonkey, sort by album, then highlight all songs of the same album and right click and press auto-tag from web. It will try to find the album art and you will embed it directly into the song. That way any media player will be able to show the album art.
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I have done this and then re-synced. I see the tracks copied over - but still no album art. Very strange.
Solved it - also the unknown artist issue.
If I used MP3Tag and remove all tags, then save the files. Then use MP3tag to add new tags (pulled from Amazon); then save; then copy to phone all is good.
For some reason, Media Monkey is NOT refreshing what it sees, so it is not really copying the retagged files over to the device. Even if do a rescan, it isn't updating. Changing tags in MediaMonkey was not fixing it either.
Also, updating tags in MP3tag was not fixing it - i had to remove, save, add, save.

[Q] HTC music player issue

hi,
I have a problem with my album list in the player from HTC (the standard player).
i have 3 albums on my sd-cart, 1 album have no problem, but the another 2 have the problem that they stay more than 1 time in the list (see image)
Knows somebody de solution to get all the numbers from that album under 1 album view
Thanks!
Seen that before with my MP3 Players. It was related to the album having different artists for each song, so that when the player would try to sort the albums, it would see them as different ones.
You could try editing the tags of your files so that the artist is the same for each song.
Oke, But what to do if a album have serval artist?
I'm not 100% sure how the HTC music player works but mp3 files typically have ID tags for an album artist and then a track artist. I would try making the "album artist" = Various Artists. See if that helps the music player recognize it as one album.
Spr33y said:
I'm not 100% sure how the HTC music player works but mp3 files typically have ID tags for an album artist and then a track artist. I would try making the "album artist" = Various Artists. See if that helps the music player recognize it as one album.
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Thats a good one, i should try!
I have same experience before, it can be fixed by editing the tag, album and song name are from tag, the order of the song also from tag, but it won't display the track# and so I edit each song name with 01, 02 ... also at nearly the bottom of the tag (Windows 7), there something that can separate albums like 1/4, 2/4... if they are different, they will appears in different album.
When you update album art from gracenote, if it doesn't match, recover it to default and choose another song in the album, then update album art according to the song.
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I'm not 100% sure how the HTC music player works but mp3 files typically have ID tags for an album artist and then a track artist. I would try making the "album artist" = Various Artists. See if that helps the music player recognize it as one album.
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I have try it and works! Thank You

Some Artist Backgrounds missing since Mango

Hello,
about a week ago I updated most of my media on my phone with zune social tagger so that most songs had artist backgrounds. These backgrounds showed up on the phone during playback (back then on 7392) and when I played the song in Zune on the PC.
Sometimes I only have single song from an album. If I then searched for the album on the marketplace and found it, it would offer me 30 second snippets of all the songs but the one I have on my phone. Instead, this song would be played from my library without problems and with artist background.
However, since Mango these backgrounds are missing on some songs.
One example is the song "Renegade" from the Jay-Z album "The Blueprint".
I have only this song from the album.
The weird thing is that when I search for album in the marketplace, find it and start to play the tracks, it shows me the artist background.
However, when the track I have on my phone (Renegade) comes up, the artist background disappears.
On the PC the background is still there.
Any ideas?
OK I got a little further.
Apparently with Mango the way the artist backgrounds work has been changed at least a little bit.
The thing that was wrong in the song mentioned above (Renegade) was this:
The song is from a Jay-Z album and is by Jay-Z and Eminem. I had set the artist to this:
Jay-Z; Eminem
However, it was recognized as one artist by Zune and as such the artist of the song would show up as "Jay-Z; Eminem" which is not what I intended.
So I changed the artist tag using Windows Explorer. I first removed all the artist, then wrote in "Jay-Z" and saved, and then wrote in "Eminem" (after the auto generated semicolon) and saved again. I don't really know what's different in the artist tag now but somehow Zune seems to regocnize that there are two artist and only displays the first artist (as it should).
This fixed the missing background for this song.
Additonally, I noticed that songs which are not linked to Zune Marketplace songs now also have artist backgrounds as long as the artist tag is correct and I have an album by that artist on my phone.
For example the album "The Marshall Mathers LP" by Eminem is not in the German Zune Marketplace but I have it on my phone (not linked using zune social tagger).
When I play a song from that album I do have an artist background as long as the artist mp3 tag is set to Eminem (or set to "Eminem; xxx", as long as it is done using Windows Explorer (or probably also WMP etc.)).
However there are still artist backgrounds missing for some music from the device while they show up in the Zune software on the pc and the artist tag is correct.
For these artists I also don't have any backgrounds in when I tap on their names.
Another thing that doesn't work (probably a missing feature) is that when I play all songs by Eminem, Zune does not add songs to the list where Eminem is only the secondary artist (such as Renegade as noted above).

[BUG] Albums with multiple artists are only displaying one song.

So after downloading this and firing it up I ran into this bug almost immediately which sadly makes the app near unusable for me.
You see I listen to a lot of music which does not have one universal album artist. Instead thee are multiple artists per album (basically a compilation album)
The problem arises when I want to open an album. Instead of getting all the tracks in an album and having the artist name underneath each track only 1 song gets displayed for each album which is usually either the first or last track.
It isn't like the songs are split into different albums either (although that would be probably worse so please don't so that if you work on fixing this). They are just completely absent from the album section.
It seems the grouping criteria involves the folder and ARTIST to be the same in order for something to get grouped as an album which isn't ideal for someone like me who listens to mostly compilation albums.
What might be a good solution is implementing a feature I have seen in another music player called rocket player. With rocket player you can actually select how you want albums grouped. For example I have it set so that songs which are in the same folder and are listed as being from the same album are grouped under one album. The artist tag doesn't actually come into play in this way which stops this issue with the sorting from actually happening.
I really do hope this gets fixed soon as for me it is a major drawback which makes the app almost unusable. At the very least implementing an option so the user can set how albums are grouped would be ideal.
I have attached some screenshots showing this issue below. (I have also attached a screenshot of what the album should look like when seen from another music player as well as a screenshot of that album grouping feature I talked about with rocket player)
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First Image is what I see in Encore
Second and third image is what I was supposed to see (I.E those are all the songs that should be displaying)
Fourth image shows the Album grouping feature from rocket player

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