[Q] USB sound card on Android? - General Questions and Answers

I have a Android pad running 2.1 and it has 2 x USB ports and a lousy audio out (3.5 Jack).
I was wondering if USB soundcards work on Android? I am under the impression it is plug&play in linux, and that android uses the same audio driver? (just not via USB).
Beeing able to use a USB soundcard with propper sound would greatly improve sound quality (I want to use my pad in my car) :/

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I also want to know about USB sound cards support under Android. I have SB Live 24 (USB) and it works with my ARM-based Asus Wi-Fi router, but what about Android 2.2 and MIDs with USB-host port? ;-)

Anyone tried it?

It could be possible

Any update on this thread, would like to get this for my asus transformer if anyone can confirm it works. http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/#overview

It could be possible!

I tray it on acer iconia tab a500 and noting happend.
It not working.
It maybe need a driver but i don't see any driver anywere
:-(

USB audio in Android progress
Just for note, it works! I recently added self-compiled snd-usb-audio modules to allwinner based tablet. Found corresponding /dev/snd/* devices. Hard part is to add switch to USB audio to java, if there are no full alsa support in ROM. If alsa used, I need only edit /etc/asound.conf ;-)

tsynik said:
Just for note, it works! I recently added self-compiled snd-usb-audio modules to allwinner based tablet. Found corresponding /dev/snd/* devices. Hard part is to add switch to USB audio to java, if there are no full alsa support in ROM. If alsa used, I need only edit /etc/asound.conf ;-)
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could you give some more details on how this was done?
USB OTG gets mouse/keyboard/mass storage working, but USB soundcard doesn't get sound through it (though the card is receiving power) and I cant see a way to check if it can see the device.
the USB soundcard I'm using was seen by my linux pc (kernel 3.0.0-15) straight away no drivers or config needed.

Here is a what I found on USB AUDIO output with Android (maybe it makes sense to put and update this table to the first topic)
NOTE: as of now SOME (not all!) USB AUDIO Android support implementations stream data through Android MUX that disturbs the original PCM stream for changing volume which means re-sampling original media, but also limited to 44.1kHz(some 48) 16 bit, so for SOME Android:
1) max all your volume controls while using external DAC
2) there is no reason to have / use DAC with higher rates then 44.1/16
3) there is no reason to have / use files of more then 44.1/16 quality. Trying to play 96kHz 24bit file will result in forcing Android to re-sample it on the fly with limited resources and not perfect algorithms leading to degrading output quality lower then proper done in studio or desktop 44.1/16!
There might be a way bypassing the Android layer and going right to ALSA you can do 24 bit.
If you specify a hardware device ("hw:0") in ALSA you can bypass any potential sample conversions.
*there is way around it in linux ALSA http://blog.agdunn.net/?p=434 but i have not seen such for Android
Supporting Devices
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Galaxy S III $700 Android phone
ARCHOS G9 $250+ Android tablet (looks like the key is OMAP chipset kernel drivers)
Squeezebox Touch $250 - propriatary logitech linux box
Ainol Novo 7/8 Advance 8gb 100$ Android tablet or Allwinner with a modded Android kernel
Nook Touch with custom rom
any A10 Android tablet http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/33373-rom-cm9-nightlies/
* Hyundai A7HD tablet with Cm9
* Mediacom 907c, Momo11 Bird, JXD S9000, Eken A90
* Visture V3
* Mediacom 910i, Teclast A10t
* ICOO D90W
* CEMA10N7 "unknown" device
* Bmorn V99
* Mediacom 711i, Momo9
* Protab2XXL
* Sanei N83
* Hyundai A7HD
* MOMO9 needs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22280857#post22280857
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/29289-usb-audio-cards-support-drivers-and-libs/
. B&N Nook Colour with a modded Android kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459892
. WitsTech A81G with a slightly modded Android kernel
http://android.modaco.com/topic/343858-external-usb-devices/page__st__20
Suported DACs:
for Galaxy S III
List of USB DACs with known USB controller that interwork with Samsung Galaxy S III for the time being:
+ AMB Labs Gamma2 with USB controller TI Burr-Brown PCM2707
+ FiiO E7 with USB controller TI Burr-Brown PCM2706
+ HifiMan Express with USB controller TI Burr-Brown PCM2702
+ Topping TP30 with USB controller TI Burr-Brown PCM2704
+ ODAC Tenor TE7022
List of USB DACs with known USB controller that don't interworking with Samsung Galaxy S III for the time being:
. FiiO E17 with USB controller Tenor TE7022
. iBasso D6 with USB controller TI TAS1020B
. Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-11 with USB controller Tenor TE7022
Hegel HD20 with USB controller Tenor TE7022 has also some issue
Audiotrak Prodigy Cube with USB controller Tenor TE7022
for Archos G9
+FiiO E17
+BEHRINGER UCA222
- E10 not supported
for Ainol Novo 7/8 Advance
+FiiO E7
+Burr-Brown PCM2704 USB DAC
+Creative
for Squeezebox Touch
+ Red Wine Audio Isabellina and an
+ HRT Music Streamer II+.
B&N Nook Colour
+Logitech DAC A-5572A |
+Beresford TC-7520SE Caiman |
+FiiO E7
B&N Nook Touch
+C-Media $5 USB adaptor
+Lexicon Alpha 24 bit adaptor
please reply here if you find more info on DAC/devices suppot so i'll keep this post up to date.

I use either a C-Media $5 USB adaptor or a Lexicon Alpha 24 bit adaptor on my Nook Touch.
By bypassing the Android layer and going right to ALSA I can do 24 bit field recording.
If you specify a hardware device ("hw:0") in ALSA you can bypass any potential sample conversions.

Renate NST said:
I use either a C-Media $5 USB adaptor or a Lexicon Alpha 24 bit adaptor on my Nook Touch.
By bypassing the Android layer and going right to ALSA I can do 24 bit field recording.
If you specify a hardware device ("hw:0") in ALSA you can bypass any potential sample conversions.
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why you are sure that it is 24 bit coming out of Nook Touch tablet?
what ROM / kernel you are using?
where you specify a hardware device? this should be done editing config file or there is a menu items in settings interface?

I'm sure that it's 24 bit because I can look at the file and see that all the bits are exercised.
Moreover, since the microphone only hits about -30dBFS, I have to crank the gain.
Compared to a 16 bit recording (which is effectively 11 bits when using 30 dB gain), the 24 bits (effectively 19 bits) sounds much better.
The Nook doesn't have any builtin audio, except for Dummy which is hw:0
My application uses hw:1
There's really no need to select the audio adapter because there is usually just the one.

Renate NST said:
The Nook doesn't have any builtin audio, except for Dummy which is hw:0
My application uses hw:1
There's really no need to select the audio adapter because there is usually just the one.
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I am a bit confused.
can you explain step by step how to archive it on stock NOOK touch?
1)install custom ROM with kernel and USB host support?
2)install specific media player? which one do you use?
3)plug in USB DAC, player will use it as output by default so no hw:0 tweaking needed?

The whole USB host mode on Nook Touch is covered here.
You will need a modified kernel.
The stock mediaplayer works but there is an unresolved bug that you need a little utility app to get over.
You need to put in an asound.conf

Renate NST said:
The stock mediaplayer works but there is an unresolved bug that you need a little utility app to get over.
You need to put in an asound.conf
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So putting asound.conf from the thread you'd mention will solve it and it will be transparent output 24bit 96khz?
can I use other media player such as Astro or PoweAMP?

The Android layer only supports 16 bits.
The MediaPlayer can not play 24 bit files.
To do anything 24 bit you need an external USB adaptor that supports it and an application that directly uses ALSA.
I believe that there are other 24 bit apps on the market.
24 bit is really only useful for recording when there is a large dynamic range.

Renate NST said:
The Android layer only supports 16 bits.
The MediaPlayer can not play 24 bit files.
To do anything 24 bit you need an external USB adaptor that supports it and an application that directly uses ALSA.
I believe that there are other 24 bit apps on the market.
24 bit is really only useful for recording when there is a large dynamic range.
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I think we are talking about different use-cases.
My question was on plugging external 24bit/96kHz capable DAC (not ADC) to Android device and playing high quality 16bit/44.1 and higher .flac files using one of android players through that external DAC.
As i understand you've done it at least for 16bit DAC? and even mentioned that there is a way to bypass Android layer to get up to24 bit transparently out to the DAC and can highlight the steps for Nook Thouch to archive it.
Can you share your experience, settings and apps you've used?

Most USB adapters you will find are 16 bit.
To get 24 bit, you have to go to a "pro" interface, M-Audio, Lexicon, whatever.
ALSA supports 24 & 32 bits, but does not directly support MP3 or FLAC.
The Android layer supports MP3 (maybe FLAC?) playback, but not record.
You can get 24 bit playback just by using the ALSA utility aplay on PCM files only.
I do not know what there is on the market for 24 bit record/play.
You'd need an app with a JNI interface to the ALSA library.
I wrote a recording application for the Nook Touch that does that.
I cited it in the thread mentioned.

Renate NST said:
Most USB adapters you will find are 16 bit.
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Just got stock Nook Simple Touch. Can you guide what steps to do to let it play music to external DAC?

Related

APad10 tablet How to install android 2.1 onto a Apad10 with telechips CPU Arm

Hi Im new to this forum and android i was wondering if you could help me i bought the Apad 10 from china, please could you help me install google android onto the apad10 as it came with Windows CE6.0. thankyou
Here are the specs:
Weight 0.6kg
Wireless LAN Have a wireless network card Graphics Integrated graphics
OEM To OEM Hard disk capacity 40GB
Memory capacity 512MB Whether widescreen Other
Screen size 10 CPU frequency 800MHZ
CPU Type TELECHIPS Model Apad10
Brand Embel
Operating system
Android 2.1 (debugging), Windows CE 6.0
Network
RJ45 Ethernet port to support Internet access, Internet connection
Support WIFI, IEEE 802.11 b / g wireless network access.
Support 3G Internet access (EVDO, WCDMA, TDS-CDMA optional)
All-WEB browser
IM support QQ, MSN, flying letters, Google Talk and other agreements
Send and receive e-mail
Support PPS online video player
Supports playback of all online video sites (such as Sina large, Youku, potatoes) video
Support for listening to Internet radio and network television watch
Office
Support the view DOC, Excel, RTF, HTML, TXT documents
Personal Information Management
Audio
Supports all common audio file format playback
Support the library, the label search
Support the online streaming media player
Video
Support play AVI, MKV (XVID/px/H.264), MOV, TS, M2TS, RM / RMVB, FLV, WMV, 3GP, MPEG, DAT, MP4 and other video formats
Support DTS, AC3 Audio Video
Reading
Support the view TXT, PDF, HTML, CHM, RTF and other document formats
Image
Support browsing JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP picture formats
Support image rotation to enlarge
GPS
Can be built-in GPS module, a navigation function
Gsensor
Built Gsensor
Game
Built-in multiple puzzle game
Other
Common compressed file compression decompression
Calculator
Notepad
Language Support
Simplified Chinese, English
Hardware parameters
Processor
High-performance ARM11 processor
The highest frequency 800MHz
Support for hardware 3D graphics acceleration
Memory
256MB DDRII cache
Storage
Built-in 2GB flash memory
Supports external SD / SDHC card, maximum capacity of 32GB
USB
A MINI-USB 2.0 high speed OTG interface, using USB transfer cable, Can add U disk, mobile hard disk 250G
With a USB1.1 interface, you can add U disk, mobile hard drive 250G, USB mouse and plug a number of USB devices With GPS navigation
Audio
3.5mm headphone output, composite video output with analog AV
Built-in MIC, Ke Luyin time 30 seconds
High-quality stereo loud speaker
Built-in speaker 0.5W +0.5 W around
Headset maximum output power
40mW
Frequency response range
20Hz-20kHz
SNR
94dB
Show
Screen Size
10.1 inch
Resolution
1024RGB (H) × 600 (V)
Color
16 million colors
Operating
Manual power switch, touch screen operation. With VOL + / - Manually control the volume, there ENTER button to confirm, there are turn-screen operation function of gravity.
Battery
Built-in lithium polymer battery 3500MAH
thankyou for any help you can give me
Where exactly did you get it from??? I have only seen the Apad7 on eBay. And I thought they all ran Android...
I bought it from china just to see what it was like because i run my own IT company i am going to sell it as my own product called the touch air but it didn't come with what i asked which was android 2.1 all of the apad tablet can run Windows CE but mine came with it instead of adroid could anyone help me install android on to it or a modifyed version of the apad 7 android.
Tech support
ayrtonh said:
I bought it from china just to see what it was like because i run my own IT company i am going to sell it as my own product called the touch air but it didn't come with what i asked which was android 2.1 all of the apad tablet can run Windows CE but mine came with it instead of adroid could anyone help me install android on to it or a modifyed version of the apad 7 android.
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I'd can the idea of reselling it if you can't even get the OS installed yourself, would imagine your tech support would be a bit of a nightmare
Well when I ordered It asked for android but it came with microsoft ce 6.0 it is only going to used as a demo machine for my customers.
please help me to install android onto it like the apad7 then in return if you would like me to reserve one for you I will send you some pics of it. The Chinese price is 199 yen i can send you the price in uk pounds or us dollars if you want me to. thankyou
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If it is running CE 6.0
It maybe the iMito iM7
8GB MID Tablet PC 7"TFT Touch Screen Wifi GPS with Windows CE 6.0
Im waiting for abit more info on the newer Apad:
using telechips ARM11 TCC8902 with 256 ram/ FLASH
iRobot Android2.1 telechips Apad MID WIFI 3G
item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5841465117
Forum:
slatedroid.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?1645-new-Apad-Telechips-TCC8902-(1080p-ARM11-HDMI-Android-2.1)&p=15510#post15510
Please could you tell me where to get a android rom from and how to install it onto the tablet i have attached some pictures of it and it is a 10" tablet the ports it has on it is 1 standard usb port, 1 mini usb port another odd looking port next to the power button, audio in/out and the power port. please could you help me with it i would be very grateful
if it all turns out well i will or about 100 of the to come with android and put them on ebay and put the link on here so you guy would get first pick. thankyou
ayrtonh said:
Please could you tell me where to get a android rom from and how to install it onto the tablet i have attached some pictures of it and it is a 10" tablet the ports it has on it is 1 standard usb port, 1 mini usb port another odd looking port next to the power button, audio in/out and the power port. please could you help me with it i would be very grateful
if it all turns out well i will or about 100 of the to come with android and put them on ebay and put the link on here so you guy would get first pick. thankyou
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So you want someone to help you turn what is essentially a brick into a product so you can then turn around and sell it to them?
Damn this guy is clueless, dude android is not a cab that you can simply install on any wince device lol, it requires a lot work, for example someone would have to make a linux kernel for it, then drivers, after that make sure all these drivers work in userland android, not to mention your going to run into a LOT of problems and issues along the way, anyways like i said android IS NOT A CAB, so i would recommend selling all does "tablets" and buying there already loaded android counterpart.
Rafyvitto
Im not clueless i just got the idea about it being quite simple from reading another thread on here about install android onto the 7inch version of this APad and changing the roms on them, all i basically want todo is to put the same google android that the Apad 7 uses onto my Apad10 because they are basically the same except for the 10" screen.
It's not possible; not with your skill level at least. Return it and ask for an Android version.

Android and USB audio

In have a question about Android and how it handles USB audio. I know that USB has a unified audio layer that is standardized and requires little in order to be seen and operated by the os. Its that reason why most usb audio class devices are simply plug and play, however some devices require add'l drivers for extra fucntions, i.e. dsp functions. What I'm trying to understand is how Android handles usb audio, does it conform to usb audio class stipulations as well, so audio devices are generally plug and play, or is there something extra that would be required?
I'm asking because I hope to get a G-Tablet this Xmas and use it in my car. I could just use the analogue outs but I want something a bit more robust, and was hoping to get an external usb audio device with multiple outputs. Maybe write a driver if needed depending on the complexity, of course. any help would be appreciated.
USB audio works on my Allwinner A10 tablet witn "Unofficial CyanogenMod 9 for many AllWinner A10 tablets" firmware from Christian Troy

[Q] [APP Asking]USB TV TUNER support on android

Hi every wonderfull android devs !!
I'm a proud owner of the wonderfull (again) TF101, but i guess something usefull is missing in android mobility solution : i named : USB/PCI driver and player for TNT DVB-T TV Tuners under android
As now tablets and even phone have USB plugs and enough power to make it, maybe they can support those little USB TV tuner dongles.
As reference under windows i'm using pouchin TV which is a lite and fluid player for TNT TV (DVB-T - H264 codecs etc ...) but i know there are many more like this one and maybe some which could be better... BUT my guess is for android !! i fall in love with it, its not perfect but it tend to be a light and easy to use (and in same time powerfull and completly controlable and customizable).
(But if i can make a parenthesis i would say that android fully interface with windows and that's great but only few apps can fill the connectivity gap between androtablets and androphones (like pdanet for instance). So please think about functionnality between 2 android device in your apps devs
parenthesis closed . )
So what about my suggestion about a new kind of app for android : i mean TNT TV support (for mobility reasons) through mini antennas or wall antenna plugs?..
First : is it possible? (i guess most linux distro already did it)
second : will it be done one day? does some brave guys/grils with gold software coding hands would be brave enough to make it !?
Please respond to my hope!!!
Thank a lot for all the work already done and for the one that will be ! (in any topics )
Trixo
Yep, DVB-T on Android is possible:
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871391
USB TV tuner support on the gen8 Archos devices.
I am looking for this too.
Hi
First thanks for replies.
So if i have well read, froyo include the good drivers for usb tuners, but the transformer is under honeycomb (but that shouldn't be a trouble, as i guess that drivers would be included to it also) and the main trouble would be to adapt this app to the transformer (hardware point of view), it's just à guess as I'm just a Mc guyver with c code... And at least working on a rooted stock Rom..
Am i right?
Trixo
droidtv is the project for android and usb tv tuners. you can get it at; https://github.com/chrulri/droidtv
justPorter said:
droidtv is the project for android and usb tv tuners. you can get it at; https://github.com/chrulri/droidtv
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But thats for DVB .. any news about ATSC ?
Refer to post #2.
It is possible to have tv on droid 3?
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I wanted to ask if i can have TV on my motorola droid 3. I have a hydrid tv tuner (ISDB-T and Analog TV) and I would know if i can use it in my phone. My phone supports OTG. Thanks
justPorter said:
droidtv is the project for android and usb tv tuners. you can get it at; https://github.com/chrulri/droidtv
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Is thid project "death"?
I have a DVB-T-Stick with RTL2832U Chip (and 820T).
In the Play store, there is also a driver for this "RTL2832U" based DVB-T sticks Intended for a SDR App.
I can receive flight transponder data live from airplanes with a app, but there is no universal DVB-T tv app ?
Only "DVB-T for Android" etc., for ELECOM Micro-USB etc. DVB-T-Tuners.
Hello All,
May you want to check this USB tuner supports on Android TV;

Surface RT Accessory Compatibility Thread: Post Your Results

I think it is best to keep all USB/BT accessory posts together for easy reference.
If you have working stuff, please let the rest of us know.
Working: Targus SoftTouch BT mouse
Working: Targus Wireless Remote Presenter (w/ USB dongle) (no drivers, plugged in dongle, worked immediately - full control of PPT in presentation and chart view modes)
Working: Targus USB SD Card Reader
Working: PNY Attache 16GB USB memory stick
Working: USB Host Mode to Atrix 4G and RAZR MAXX HD (charging and recognized media)
I'm curious about:
Wacom tablet (i doubt it since drivers are required)
USB keyboard or mouse
Any issues with USB hubs (I may be able to test this at the end of the week)
USB Printer
Not working: Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for Windows - LINK
---------- Post added at 04:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 PM ----------
Working: Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard/touchpad (using the Bluetooth adapter that comes with it) - LINK
---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:03 PM ----------
Working: Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 - LINK
Working: Brother HL-2170W Printer (only tested via wireless) - LINK
Not working: Microsoft Lifecam Cinema.
(Yes I know that there are cameras built in to the Surface, but I get an adjustable angle, which is better for my desk, with the Lifecam).
Also not working for anything but charging is any WP7 phone. (only WP8 phones will work with the Metro sync app)
Working: iPhone 5 - Charges and allows for importing of pics/videos.
jhoff80 said:
Not working: Microsoft Lifecam Cinema.
(Yes I know that there are cameras built in to the Surface, but I get an adjustable angle, which is better for my desk, with the Lifecam).
Also not working for anything but charging is any WP7 phone. (only WP8 phones will work with the Metro sync app)
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TheAccuser said:
Working: iPhone 5 - Charges and allows for importing of pics/videos.
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So does this technically mean that a phone by Apple works better with Windows then a phone by Microsoft lol nice move!
I will get mine 2moro (though not holding breath till I get my hands on it) so I will try a host of hardware.
TheAccuser said:
Working: iPhone 5 - Charges and allows for importing of pics/videos.
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Ditto for Ipod Touch 4th gen
Working:
* Droid X phone (Charges and file access)
* Six different brands of flash drives
* IOGear GFR204SD memory card reader (Reads SDXC and SD cards)
* A handful of USB keyboards and mice
* Western Digital 2TB My Passport drive (with enough power for the drive)
* Logitech DualAction Game Controller
* Belkin P11438 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 4 Port Hub
* Microsoft Arc Touch Mouse
Not working:
* USRobotics Model 5637 USB dial-up modem
* StarTech USB21000S USB network port
* Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q TV tuner
* HP LaserJet 6P6MP
* Canon iP4200
* HP Deskjet D2360
* BU-353 GPS unit
AndyRathbone said:
Working:
Not working:
* USRobotics Model 5637 USB dial-up modem
* StarTech USB21000S USB network port
* Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q TV tuner
* HP LaserJet 6P6MP
* Canon iP4200
* HP Deskjet D2360
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I suspected as much WRT the modem/network stuff. Too bad about the TV tuner.
Were the printers USB or wireless connected?
mk1151 said:
I suspected as much WRT the modem/network stuff. Too bad about the TV tuner.
Were the printers USB or wireless connected?
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The printers were connected to other networked printers through USB.
HP and Dell have both released Windows RT compatibility lists for their printers:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03365145http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03365145
http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kcs/document?docid=572562
It's not promising.
I am currently typing this on a mac Bluetooth keyboard on surface rt so that works
Working
-Logitech Bluetooth portable mousem-rcq142
- Any USB mouse I could find
- Any thumbdrive I could find
- 32GB microSD from microcenter (Microcenter branded)
Not Working
Kensington USB Mini Dock with Ethernet
NetGear FA120 USB Ethernet adapter- Shows up as a device but says "not compatible with this version of windows"
Working:
Wacom Graphire 3 tablet, but no pressure sesitivity. Pen works, rocker button works.
Working:
Logitech K800 Wireless Keyboard
Sandisk 64 GB Class 10 microSDXC card
USB audio device - guitar
I plugged in a cheap no name usb guitar interface and the rt picked it up as a usb input and audio device. I could not hear the output after trying a few settings but I was able to record it with a simple voice recording program I found in the store (toolbox). Believe it or not the audio latency was not too bad. Like I said I could not get the output to play simultaneously (probably too processor demanding) but it was encouraging that I could record it. I am a guitarist and one of the things I am hoping is for some good audio music production tools on the surface, which cannot be done on android due to latency issues. IPad owns the music production market currently so hopefully MS will be able to compete
Working:
USB flash drives
USB mice
Canon MX892 (via Wifi, haven't tested USB)
-note: the driver is pretty basic (i.e. no paper quality settings, ink level, etc.), but works
-shows up in Control Panel as being a printer + scanner + fax + card reader, and I could've sworn I saw right-click menu items relating to scanning a few days ago, but now I don't see those (so for now, just the printer part is working-- but compared to other tablets, that itself is quite novel)
EDIT: turns out WinRT automatically a Metro app for the MX892 ("Canon Inkjet Print Utility") that shows printer status (ink levels, etc.). Still no custom print settings (paper type, etc.), though.
Has anybody got a USB RTL8187-based Wi-Fi card that they can test?
MS put up a Windows RT hardware compatibility page, with thousands of devices listed-- quite a lot more than I'd imagined (e.g. over 30 working USB-Ethernet adapters).
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/winrt/CompatCenter/Home
amb9800 said:
MS put up a Windows RT hardware compatibility page, with thousands of devices listed-- quite a lot more than I'd imagined (e.g. over 30 working USB-Ethernet adapters).
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/winrt/CompatCenter/Home
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Microsoft's site seems to take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. The site lists my StarTech USB21000S as Windows RT compatible with "free download required."
Sure, it's recognized by Windows RT, but it needs a driver. Windows Update looks, but can't find anything. And, since Windows RT doesn't have any way of installing third-party drivers -- and StarTech doesn't pretend to offer any on its site -- it's incompatible.
AndyRathbone said:
Microsoft's site seems to take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. The site lists my StarTech USB21000S as Windows RT compatible with "free download required."
Sure, it's recognized by Windows RT, but it needs a driver. Windows Update looks, but can't find anything. And, since Windows RT doesn't have any way of installing third-party drivers -- and StarTech doesn't pretend to offer any on its site -- it's incompatible.
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Hmm interesting. The chip driving the StarTech USB21000S seems to be the ASIX AX88178, which has all manner of drivers available (including WinCE 5/6 on ARM), so I assume maybe ASIX made one for WinRT (hence the listing), but if it's not on Windows Update, then yeah, it's incompatible from a consumer standpoint.
Some items there seem a bit odd, like Intel's Mini-PCIe wifi cards, which are listed as compatible. I doubt 1) any WinRT machines (at least during MS' tightly-controlled launch phase) are going to use separate Wifi modules and 2) that WinRT users will be swapping said modules. So seems more like an internal component (of which tons are obviously not on the site).
Oh neat- just noticed that Surface automatically installed a Metro app for my Canon MX892 ("Canon Inkjet Print Utility") that shows printer status (ink levels, etc.). Still no custom print options (paper type, etc.), but cool nonetheless.

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Considering a android TV box, but requirements are
IR remote control
HDMI video out
Optical or coaxial audio output
Jelly Bean OS
1GB RAM
Micro SD slot for app storage.
wifi and wired ethernet.
Something along the lines of this, although unsure if it meets all my requirements. £50 sort of thing add interactive features to the TV..and use a media playback device easier to use than the HTPC, mouse, totally quiet etc
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Android-4...ternet_TV_Media_Streamers&hash=item1c33e14b8c

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