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So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
I think you missed the price of the Xoom. From everything I have heard the price is at least $800.
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So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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The $600ish price is for the Wifi model that doesn't have a confirmed release date. If you don't need a tablet now, yeah I would just wait a couple of months or so and get the wifi only Xoom or wait for the 3G version to drop in price.
Comparing the Xoom and Gtablet is comparing a Luxury car with a Economy car. Do you want the bells and whistles or do you just want something to get you where you want to go?
wait until the lg slate aka optimus pad comes out as well as sumsungs honeycomb tab then make your choice
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Let us not forget that Moto has been locking their bootloaders so your at their mercy for upgrades. If you can wait and don't want a GTab there will be many unlocked devices on the way. BTW, the GTab is completely open and almost unbrickable
Just a thought, if you wait, then the next best thing will be roumored to be coming and you will be waiting again. That being said, if price isn't an issue, and the possiblilty of a locked bootloader isn't an issue, then wait for the Xoom.
I anticipate much better viewing angles, better placement of the headphone jack, power and volume buttons (I hate the fact that the headphone jack is the bottom left but the hard buttons are at the top right so when I'm holding it with headphones i have to hold it top left and bottom right :s), likely better support, probably more development and community support since it will be the first Honeycomb tablet, and most importantly a lot more quality accessories.
I'll be selling my G-tab for a Xoom next month. I want to give Xoom a month or so burn in to see if the price drops and to get a chance to look at the potential alternatives (LG, Samsung, ASUS). That is assuming its bootloader isn't completely locked down and with Moto's recent change in stance towards the dev community I can't image that it would be.
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Being an owner of the GTablet and also faced with the same choices - its a tough one.
I see it this way and will depend on your priorities:
If your priorities >= (screen, vendor support, GPS, Android 3.0) and wait time >= NOW then
BUY (ZOOM)
ELSEIF priorities >= (independent support, Cost, Hack-ability) wait time <= NOW then
BUY(GTblet)
ELSE
BUY(IPAD)
hunteradh said:
So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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This is just my opinion, but features aside, I'd wait to see what how locked down the moto will be, how easy or hard it is to brick, and how much community support it gets, and only then, decide.
Jim
If you want something now with an nvidia tegra 2 processor at a very good price and you are comfortable flashing roms then the gtablet is the way to go. The gtablet is very well supported by the xda dev community.
If you want a tablet that is ready to use out of the box, i.e. you don't like mucking with firmware, then wait a few weeks/months. There's going to be a flood of nice tablets but they will cost more and may be tied to wireless carriers.
I am very happy with my new gtablet.
Malata
Don't forget the new versions of the Gtablet.....
http://liliputing.com/tag/malata-smb-b1005
This could be a competitor for the Xoom also.
The Xoom even at the subsidized $600 with Verizon contract isn't a good buy, cost wise. The blogosphere is in an uproar over the cost of this thing compared to other offerings which has been horrible for the street cred/exitement building up before launch. Yeah, the Xoom is pretty and will be the first to offer Honeycomb but their marketing along with Verizon have done an absolutely terrible job of leaking false prices, charging too much for activating features (wifi), and requiring a 3G plan to be tied down to which makes it much more expensive than just buying it outright for $800.
With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
tcrews said:
With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
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So apparently the keyboard on the GTab is worth writing home about.
I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
Kayak83 said:
I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
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I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
Reality is these tabs will never replace a laptop these are consumption devices so why pay the price for one at the price of a good computer?
Xoom vs Gtab.
I understand all the questions.....got the Gtab and couldn't be happier. maybe the doom will be all that....but??? don't have to wait....honeycomb will come.
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I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
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They won't raise the price of the gtablet. That's unheard of. Maybe if you're comparing to some sort of one time promotion. You don't release a product at one price and then 6 months later, raise it.
Interesting..... G Tab on TOP!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969869
I feel pretty good right now. I only paid $300 for my gtab brand new. I'm sure once honeycomb gets ported over to gtab and we get a more fair comparison the xoom's extra 512mb of ram will come into play.I wouldn't pay more than $350 for the xoom.any more than that I would just wait for the next tab thats gonna rape both of these.
It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
Agreed.
I don't think its worth more than the current 99/149 prices.
After using one for about a week, I can say it's definitely not worth more than about $250 in its current state (if not less). It'll be worth the same amount as other lower-priced tablets when Android makes its way onto it. Either that, or when the Android emulator becomes functional.
WebOS is actually a really fantastic OS, there's just no apps for it.
bholloway said:
It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
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There is a marketing lesson to be learnt here somewhere. Unfortuantley HP don't seem to be taking advantage of the hype they have generated.
I would also buy one for the cheaper price (I went to Harvey norman on the sale day but missed out) but agree the prices people are paying for them now are rediculous. ($350-$400 lol) Unless more magically appear at or around the firesale price I will be saving for the next gen tablets.
Im hooked on watching people freak out over these tablets. Its so funny, I bought one for my sister and she loves it. All she does is Facebook and internet so it was a deal for her.
Impossible to find any around here selling on craigslist for $200 or less.
I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
I was only going to get one to flash it with Honeycomb.. but can not find one anywhere. If you aren't going to be doing that, then I don't see the justification for buying an unsupported product with no apps.
A lot of people got them because they knew Android would be ported to it sooner or later, making it a pretty decent device.
I tried to get one, but failed.
Other "non-nerd" general consumers got them because it is a cheap tablet that is fairly versatile, and for what you get, the price was amazing.
All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
tenaciousj said:
There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
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I think the market value of one of these is probably around 200 dollars. Actually,while Im not a fan of WebOS I think HPs situation is their own doing. There is a demand from a top manufacturer for a cheap tablet. What they SHOULD have done was contracted with one of these Taiwanese companies that make the 150-200 dollar tablets and made a smaller cheaper version of their tablet. Sell it close to cost for 150 dollars or so,running Web-OS,and sell their flagship tablet for around 400 dollars,pretty much what it takes to make it. I bet the cheaper ones would have flown off the shelves,creating a demand for WebOS apps,which would have driven demand for the bigger tablet. Instead,they tried to go head to head right at the start with the iPad,and priced their product similarly.
Think of it this way. Hyundai wants into the luxury car market. Should they make a car with similar features as a BMW, sell it for the same price and expect people to flock to it in droves? Of course not. That would be really stupid,especially considering that even if they do it right and make it comparable to the BMW,its going to have flaws because they have never done that before. Instead,what they did was make a comparable luxury car,two actually,the Genesis and the Equus. they are priced at 40K and 60K respectively. Thats around 10 grand at the low end and 20 at the high end lower than comparably equipped cars. They have to compete on price because they cant compete on the other aspects of their product. Some years down the road,if they can get and keep quality up to par,they may end up in the same situation as Honda and Toyota who used to be seen as cheap imported junk,but now are seen as high quality desirable vehicles. However,if they tried to simply change overnight and step in and compete with BMW ,or Toyota (Lexus) or Honda (Acura) they would fail as miserably as HP did.(they may still fail of course)
You have to have a plan on how to make inroads into someone elses markets and build a reputation or no one is going to buy your product,whether you are selling tablets that compete with the iPad or cars that compete with BMW. Samsungs strategy is that they are HUGE. Android tablets seem to be taking off slowly,and they can stay in the game and do things like use their other products to build market share. (For instance,if you buy a samsung TV and a samsung tablet,you can get a nice discount.)
I gave up, eventually the crazy will go down and those tablet will sell on ebay for the right price. For 300 dollars I'll look for a honeycomb android tablet at that point (I think I saw the asus transformer at that price or a bit more)
0vermind said:
I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
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My argument isn't that the touchpad isn't a good device for $100. If I could get one for $100 or even $150 that would be great. But my comment is that some people miss out on the sales, and for some reason continue to pursue getting one, even if it means paying $250+ to get one from someone else who bought them for cheap. People are getting caught up in having to get a touchpad that they end up wasting lots of money on a subpar device.
Are you kidding
Everyone went and got these because they know stock android will be hacked onto it in no time.
When the rush dies, in a couple of months I am sure someone will be able to pick up one on ebay close to firesale price.
WebOS is a nice OS but it's DOA now. IF android Honeycomb or ICS gets ported then it's a good buy. If it's stuck to 2.* version, then no. Phone software on a 10" tablet is plain stupid.
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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NORCALkID said:
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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HP also said that it would be "double down" on WebOS products when bought Palm. HP also said that it would only release perfect products (TouchPad launched with bugs beyond belief).
I really have a hard time believing what they say...
I will agree the whole HP Touchpad deal is getting kind of ridiculous. I admit, I was checking everywhere for one... But I wasn't about to spend double the price of the markdowns. I am actually on mine now, but I paid $149 for it at best buy two days ago. I didn't buy mine to make money, but to put it to use. Now I'm waiting on the clever devs to port Android over. And, I agree give it a month or two, and we'll see the prices back down to where they should be.
narta said:
I really have a hard time believing what they say...
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There's that, then there's also that HP didn't even say what NORCALkID claims they did. They said, and I quote:
HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
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Which is just buzzword bingo BS that says... nothing whatsoever.
I was surprised to not see a thread created already in General Discussion for this topic.
As AndroidandMe reported last week, ASUS was rumored to be creating the first Nexus branded Tablet with a price between $200-$250. As the week went on, more rumors swirled (and are starting to look pretty solid at this point) that ASUS will in fact be making the first Nexus (7") Tablet featuring stock Android 4.0, a dual-core Qualcomm processor (potentially the Snapdragon S4) and is looking to be priced at $149!
At this point, even though the first Nexus Tablet won't be a quad-core, this is looking like a really sweet deal. I personally will probably replace my Kindle Fire with this if the specs stand true.
Anyway, just figured I'd start a discussion. Here are some source links:
Initial Rumor
Digitime Echos Rumor of Nexus Tablet by ASUS
Source Says Tablet Is A "Done Deal"
Additional Article One
Additional Article Two
It does sound pretty good except I can't bring myself to pay more than $150 for a 7" tablet. I would pay $200 for a 10" tablet but no more than that. It might be because I got a TouchPad when it went on the fire sale. Now I want all tablets to be that price. I blame HP. LOL
Make it 10' -> (As screen is bigger, more allowed internal space, the price goes up).
I would pay $300 or $350 for a 64 Gb 10 inches screen.
Profit!!!
I am really curious to the specs the end result is going to have. Even more because this even lower price than said before. It sure is going to be a nice gadget.
If it is anything like the memo i can see this being a massive hit. Put in either an S4 or a Tegra 3 like the memo a 1280x800 IPS display and micro sd card and people will see this at a store then see the price then see it on their receipt. I myself have a transformer that's almost a year old and I would pick one of these up as my go to tablet and the TF as the work tablet (keyboard dock)
Would be good to see a Nexus tablet, there are no GED tablets out there*
Xoom doesn't count as it is ONLY the wifi version that was on sale in ONLY the United States. Though if they really want to to take off and go head to head with the dedicated 200~ tablets they need to improve their ecosystem, open up google movies, books and music to more countries
I would be very interested in a 10"+ tablet, 7" doesn't do it for me. Bigger the better.
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I'm not sure why people are talking about 10" tablets - aren't there plenty of those around? The 7" Nexus is clearly a direct response to Amazon's success with the Kindle Fire (if rumors are to be believed even Apple is paying attention), and in order to compete with it they need to be at $200 or below.
At $149 I doubt they will be using the S4/Krait, but we can always hope. In any case, I was more than a little tempted by some of the crappy ~$140 Chinese Cortex A8 tablets available. $149 for a Nexus tablet, even if it's only a dualcore Snapdragon S3, is an insane deal.
I do hope Google brings out two types of nexus Tablet. A $249 10 inch tablet and a 7 inch tablet at $149.
I think if they can do the two above and make the Tablets desirable I really think the Android Tablet ecosystem could really start to kick off
I already have a 10 inch tablet, but would very much consider this for a second. The Nexus is the selling point, as long as battery life were excellent I am on board.
Felimenta97 said:
Make it 10' -> (As screen is bigger, more allowed internal space, the price goes up).
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But where would you put a 10 foot tablet?
im kind of disappointed if the memo370 is being discontinued and downgraded and being replaced with the rumors of the new specs. Google is obviously not liking the fact that the kindle is built off the blackberry playbook chassis and the tweaked OS that provides google with zero commission. In any case I hope they undercut the kindle fire in price if they do but its hard to say im looking forward to it when amazon is expected to come out with updates. Honestly, they need to come out with a 10" ipad killer that costs half the price or else they won't change the game.
It would really suck if this tablet replaces the asus memo. Me and my friends were all going to get one. And if this new nexus is just going to just be a dual core, then how is it any better than the nook tablet? They're probably going to get rid of the micro sd card slot like they've been doing. I'm just salty because I was looking forward to the memo
The last months, I began to get interested in Tablets and nearly bought a Lenovo Ideapad and a (shame on me) iPad, but i could resist. But when the rumours are true I buy one, even when its "only" a Dual-Core.
Normally I´m interested in a 10" (or more like the Samsung 11" and the Toshiba 13") , Quad core Tablet with Keyboard Dock. 7" is too small for a couch, but for rhis prize, with google Support I cant´t say no
Looks like this is being pushed back until July to try and shave off manufacturing cost to keep it at the $199 mark.
I've been looking to get a tablet for some general gaming and thought this might be a good one to look at. Hopefully the specs are decent otherwise I may have to pay a little extra for something that will play most games well.
Regardless though, it is good to see Google, Asus, Nvidia (and anyone else involved) trying to create tablets for the mainstream with good specs at a great price. This can only be good for the Play Store and the tablet market in the long run.
Anybody know a cheap tablet thats 40 - 100 dollars that has good development (like roms and such?) "cough" CyanogenMod "cough"
Legally, no. Here is a free lesson in life. Sometimes, you have to save up to get something you want.
The nook hd+ is pretty decently priced these days —*at least given the specs!
I had gotten the galaxy tab 2 7.0 for about 125 online.
There are some cheap chinese tablets on DealExtreme under $100, but don't expect any fancy specs.
LoopDoGG79 said:
Legally, no. Here is a free lesson in life. Sometimes, you have to save up to get something you want.
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I am a budget so... Here is a free lesson in life. Sometimes, People are on a budget
I understand a budget but if you can budget a small amount of money to put away say each week you can have the tablet you really want
I got an HP Touchpad with a great screen (a couple scratches on the back) for $105 shipped. It's running CM9 like a boss with everything working, I played Tekken 3 on it last night with zero lag.
This was on Swappa I found it.
edit: the ones they have are overpriced right now, but look daily. You can also check locally.
This tablet is awesome 9.7" WVGA screen with a dual-core snapdragon and a gig of RAM, has Jellybean ROMs and everything (just bluetooth doesn't work)
You can also check Craigslist for people getting arid of their old tablets if you're on a tight budget.
orangekid said:
I got an HP Touchpad with a great screen (a couple scratches on the back) for $105 shipped. It's running CM9 like a boss with everything working, I played Tekken 3 on it last night with zero lag.
This was on Swappa I found it.
edit: the ones they have are overpriced right now, but look daily. You can also check locally.
This tablet is awesome 9.7" WVGA screen with a dual-core snapdragon and a gig of RAM, has Jellybean ROMs and everything (just bluetooth doesn't work)
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I heard you could get 10.1 on that device, I think ill be a HP Touchpad
AndroidHoneyComb said:
I am a budget so... Here is a free lesson in life. Sometimes, People are on a budget
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So am I, but I have saved up to get what I want. If you can save up 40 to 100,why not save up to 200 and get a 16gb nexus 7?
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Best Tablet for Your Budget
In your Budget you can try Micromax tablets. you can also check Samsung Galaxy Tab.