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Got myself a HTC HD2 phone can all you good people recommend what good apps to use along with the best games out at the moment
A bit of a dummy when it comes to phones so take it easy on me
Thanks all.
livebaituk said:
Hi
Got myself a HTC HD2 phone can all you good people recommend what good apps to use along with the best games out at the moment
A bit of a dummy when it comes to phones so take it easy on me
Thanks all.
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I guess you found this forum by searching on net. So you could use same method on the forums too. Just a simple search would give you excellent results.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=apps+for+hd2
Don't take it personally.
Was recommended this forum from a friend off BBS air guns he said it was a great forum where the people are very helpful and this is the place to fined all I need for my phone.
I have had a look through but it all seems gobblygook to me I just know I will end up doing something to my phone of shouldn't
Get registered at freeware pocket pc then download oMarket on your phone. It is a free app marketplace similar to WM marketplace. Also, go to hd2apps blog. Tons of apps and games (all free), best site imo. If you like to know people's recommended apps, go to TMobile HD2 forum, there are several threads there dedicated for that, just do a search. That is where newbies should go first before dabbling into XDA as in my opinion this forum is more for relatively advanced users...for tweaking and customization, a little less on apps and games.
Cheers for that
Welcome to the HD2 world here on XDA.
I totally understand how everything can be/is confusing at first. Having the phone for a day or so and not knowing what is out there to do even a general search. Reading the posts here will give you a general knowledge of the cab files that will enhance and customize your new phone to your liking. It really isnt that hard once you start playing around a bit.
Might I suggest bookmarking this forum, and keeping an eye on it. Lots of stuff here to do to your phone. Also read though all the posts in the "post your leo today screens" thread. tons of stuff there, and everyone shares what they have.
Please do remember the search feature is your friend. New threads with the same old questions that have been posted and answered 50 times will most likely only get you a few pointed responses.
Hope you enjoy your new HD2 phone and your time here.
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Was recommended this forum from a friend off BBS air guns he said it was a great forum where the people are very helpful and this is the place to fined all I need for my phone.
I have had a look through but it all seems gobblygook to me I just know I will end up doing something to my phone of shouldn't
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Friend off an Airgun forum??
Bet he's got some really silly username trying to make himself sound like some crack shot hero too hasn't he? Sad. Very sad.
Don't worry mate, they're not all that unfriendly on here, as the other two posters have proved.
This place can be a bit daunting, just read lots for a few days and it'll start becoming clear, drop me an email or PM on here if you get stuck.
What sort of stuff are you looking for?
Finding my way round got some top apps already my phone is starting to become mine now
Have seen some pics on here where the phone has a smart looking top bar where the start and signal strength is anyone know a link to where I can find one. Have look for one but don't know what it's called
Cheers sniper-wolf for the heads up, name can't be as bad as mine
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Finding my way round got some top apps already my phone is starting to become mine now
Have seen some pics on here where the phone has a smart looking top bar where the start and signal strength is anyone know a link to where I can find one. Have look for one but don't know what it's called
Cheers sniper-wolf for the heads up, name can't be as bad as mine
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No worries mate, glad you are getting somewhere, I reckon Livebait is an ok name, could be worse, could be something like Bigred1.
The bit you're lookin for is called a taskbar, here's a few to be going on with........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679518&highlight=taskbar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664594&highlight=taskbar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584531&highlight=taskbar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671203&highlight=taskbar
There are loads more, that's just the first 4 I came across. You should find them easier now you know what they're called.
Edit: Just spotted your avatar!! Is that you? Always nice to put a face to a name.
Edit: Just spotted your avatar!! Is that you? Always nice to put a face to a name. [/QUOTE]
I that be me on a good day
Think bigred1 got his name from his guitar think he loves it more then his misses
Down loaded DJC taskbar he's the man looks great ( big thanks to DJC) now sorting out to get speaker back read how to do it but was never good with institution's to put a flat pack up let alone phones
Sorted it dam I'm getting good at this. I know its easy for most of you out there but I be a farmer and only found out about mobile phone last week
welcome
Hi welcome to xda developers, yes you will meet some people who will just post absolutly nothing that will help you. They almost acted pissed off that your even asking a question. Dont worry some of us will help out you can find some games here
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com most of the games are freeware and its a small and simple interface. I also made SuperMarioGun WVGA game and Obama vs. Bush game which you can find here. Any questions just hit me up Iam glad to help anyone out. The phone you have can do some amazing stuff like watch movies and has free TV apps too. Let me know if your going to stay in this thread and I will upload some programs that I feel are good.
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Hi welcome to xda developers, yes you will meet some people who will just post absolutly nothing that will help you. They almost acted pissed off that your even asking a question. Dont worry some of us will help out you can find some games here
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com most of the games are freeware and its a small and simple interface. I also made SuperMarioGun WVGA game and Obama vs. Bush game which you can find here. Any questions just hit me up Iam glad to help anyone out. The phone you have can do some amazing stuff like watch movies and has free TV apps too. Let me know if your going to stay in this thread and I will upload some programs that I feel are good.
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Nice one zarpy that sound spot on. Free tv? Got my player installed but if you know others I would be willing to try them to find the best.
Still finding my way round my phone waiting on my 16gb card to turn up give me more room.
If you could post some good stuff up I would be thankful.
Take care my friend.
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Ok here some fun stuff
1)Boing- a simple game you tilt the phone left or right to control your ball and try to go as far up as you can. Developed by flyingmonkey.
2)Youtube player- now you can download youtube videos and mp3 for free. No more paying for music just type in the name you want and press the youtube icon.
3)VWD- download free music,videos ,porn ,etc. All for free you need Netcompactframework3.5 cab let me know if you need it.
Enjoy if you want more just let me know.
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Ok ready for some more fun
1)ChipperX - play 4 levels you control chipperX you can jump and move left or right with onscreen controls. Avoid the enemies and make it to the door. Your on a quest to find the mystical cape.
2)The Channeler- One of the best apps gives you free TV on your phone. All you do is register and there is no charge. Watch over 120 different channels takes a little bit to get used to but is great.
try .... www.fpsece.net
get the supporter version and register on the forum to get the right set-up files for the HD2.
It's a playstation one emulator and its really good.
There's loads of help videos on the forum to help you get it started and it's well worth the effort!
I'd also recommend getting the paid version of myPlayer... there's more uk digital live channels that work really well.
other good games....
ivy the kiwi
pool rebel
Experiment 13
mini golf wacky worlds
Marble worlds 2
Thanks all for all your help.
Downloaded the stuff you put up zarpy and joined fpsece.net skilty
I am a bit stuck now until my 16g card turns up as I have ran out of room only got 4g at the mo
Thanks again all you have sorted my phone out. Even my mate br1 is thinking of selling his pie phone and getting one
16g card turned up today bring on the apps my fellow HD2 users
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Ok you got the card thats great. Now go to this website and download all games and apps you can fit. You dont even have to register just click and download .
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
Trust me its well worth it!!! Tell me after you gone there how you like it.
Dam bloody bay the card don't work can write stuff to it but it will not run from it
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Dam bloody bay the card don't work can write stuff to it but it will not run from it
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Hey livebaituk,
Have you formatted the card before using it? Try that first....
Otherwise, did you buy it from eBay?? I had the same problem with the one I got from there, did a quick test on it and it turned out to be fake!
Use the program below to test the memory card and see if that's the problem....
(you will need to have a microSD convertor to use direct with your computer, either to usb or to SD if you have a SD card reader).
That's all I can think of, hope that helps,
I have a Viewsonic g tablet and have been reading up on how to make it a better tablet. Mainly what I want is the full Google market and being able to use applications like Words with friends which I use on my android phone. I don't feel I have the technical expertise to try the suggested steps on my own. I live in Miami, Florida and was wondering if there is anyone in my area who I could pay to help me with my tablet.
Sorry, you are a bit too far
Check out wordsmith as well.....it runs much better than WWF. I only use WWF with actual friends who only use WWF.
Thank you. I will try it
Why not buy an ipad?
I second goodintention's comment on the iPad... the Gtab is really not all that great without modding it. If you want something that works out of the box, get an iPad.
installs
A lot of good direction are found on this site. it is really very simple and can be rooted and custom rom installed in 15min.
you'll be glad you did
Here is a step by step instruction on how to do all the moddings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
I was going to launch a gtab for dummies website weeks ago, but things have been so busy at work. Our engineering team is trying to beat another team to the punch, so we've been putting in extra hours. I started writing on my website but never got a chance to finish it.
I guess I'll launch my website after we finish this project.
I've been having troubles getting my emulators to work on my Xoom. I've tried SNESoid, Gameboid, N64oid and I can't get any games to play. I downloaded my ROM's and when I open up the emulator and choose the ROM it says it can't open the game file. I downloaded my ROM's from a backup and they are in their correct format.
I would be happy to find out how to get this to work. I installed about two different backups (different versions) of N64oid and it still doesn't work. It didn't work when I wasn't rooted and it still doesn't work rooted. The emulators work fine on my HTC Evo so I don't understand what the issue could be.
If any of you guys can get my emulators working on the Xoom I will ship you a free Motorola Camera Connection Kit as a big thank you. You will be getting a legit Motorola and not an off brand cord. I'm primariy concerned with getting N64oid and GENoid to work. You can PM me if you want to try and attempt to troubleshoot this on the phone. I will NOT be selling this cable so don't ask. This cable is going to a member of this forum who is willing to go above and beyond on a huge favor.
Download the emulater from market.
Open up a fresh rom with it. Fresh as in not from back ups etc.
I just did this with a f zero rom I have sitting in my dropbox. Works perfectly.
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The emulator is not available in the market anymore. I have a backup of N64oid. I visited a website and I won't say which one) and downloaded a couple of ROM's of games I actually own. My Evo can play the .zip files for N64 just fine but when I try to load the .zip on the Xoom it says fiailed to load "Name of Game.zip".
The same thing happens with the Sega emulator and SNESoid emulator. I tried different versions of N64oid.
I downloaded snesoid lite prior to my orginal post from the market. It is there and it works.
Here is a link to it. https://market.android.com/details?id=app-com.androidemu.sneslite
My f zero is. Smc and the nes game I play with nesoid lite is .nes
Moral of the story is the emualtors work just fine.
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N64oid Help Page
N64oid is off the market but I found a webpage that is really helpful. It provide a list of compatible roms that will work with N64oid.
I can't post links but if you go to google and search for "n64oid compatible roms" and hit the first link, it will take you to the "mobilephonetalk" page.
I have n64 on my xoom now
The only ROM that didn't work on the xoom was star wars racer, but I haven't tried all.
Hope it helps
I'm trying to run Mario Kart, Starfox, Zelda. I know for a fact that they are all compatible. I get errors that it's unable to load the game file. Please try again later or something to that effect. I'm rooted now and the N64oid I'm running is v1.1.
Pm sent if u can't find it drop me ur email on a pm and I'll help ya out.
I'm still trying to figure it out. I found some files in the other extension and I have to use the OTG cable to load it. Will fill you guys in. Thanks for the help Broken.
what is the file type you aretrying to run? is it. v64?
I got the N64oid working thanks to StealYourFace who PM'd me and kept in contact. Congratulations man and thanks for helping me out. I will PM you so I can arrange shipping.
Thanks to everyone else who helped me out or poked their head in to check on my thread.
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I got the N64oid working thanks to StealYourFace who PM'd me and kept in contact. Congratulations man and thanks for helping me out. I will PM you so I can arrange shipping.
Thanks to everyone else who helped me out or poked their head in to check on my thread.
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Question... Why arent you sharing the information you were provided to others here that may have the same issue? Isint this what XDA is for? Helping others, etc? Or do we need to offer you something in return for you to assist?
I mean no disrespect but I dont understand why you havent posted the information / solution...
The solution is to make sure the Rom isn't in .zip format. Other emulator roms have to be in .bin format.
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Soo...it's been about 3 weeks. And I have received nothing. Not even a pm to say it was sent (if it even was). Just throwing that out there...
It's in the mail you should be getting it by Monday. Amazon is taking too damn long to send it. I ended up hunting down a BB and buying one. Sorry for the delay.
By the way I'm a man of my worda nd have given away plenty of freebies to other XDA members.
So...I received the envelope today. But as far as the cable...no. Just an empty envelope with 2 pieces of paper.
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So...I received the envelope today. But as far as the cable...no. Just an empty envelope with 2 pieces of paper.
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Are you ****ing kidding me? I know you're joking. I put the cable in there and two pieces of paper to fill it in. I even attached a note in the envelope that I wrote you. Don't lie dude because you and I know it was in there.
I was also contemplating recording a video of me sending it in the mmail but I figured since you helped me you wouldn't try to get over me. I should always follow my instinct for situations like this.
I $4¡7 you not. I'm dead serious. When I received it, nothing was there but the paper. Bottom of the envelope was ripped. So somebody stole it because they saw what it was apparently.
Likewise. I was going to record me getting it. But apparently I should have recorded me looking out the window at the mailman putting it in the box then me going downstairs, outside, and to the mailbox.
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So...I received the envelope today. But as far as the cable...no. Just an empty envelope with 2 pieces of paper.
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You would think that you would have said it was ripped when you first decided to come in the thread and air me out. Now you decide to tell me the envelope was ripped and that it wasn't in there? You didnt even PM me but decided on coming on a thread to make me look bad. You're feeding me fresh lies on rye bread and I don't buy it.
Im not feeding you anything and the fact that you accuse me is appauling sir. Did I say you didn't send it? No. I just said it wasn't there when I received the envelope. Am i saying send me another? No. So you saying I'm trying to make you look bad is a false statement. I understand you're mad, but taking it out on me isn't going to solve anything. In the end, we're both losers. I have no cable from you as it was stolen. And you wasted twenty dollars. I'm sorry you feel that I am trying to cheat you though. I dont even know how that would be possible.
I'm mad at the fact that you came in here with your ...'s implying that I cheated you out. I'm also scrutinizing your statement because had you PM'd me and said "Hey the envelope came but it was already opened" I would have approached the situation differently and would have sent you another one.
I could have asked for help and got it but I thought I would give a freebie to someone in the process. I take your .....'s as a rude way of responding to someone as if I did something wrong.
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I just bought a game called Chaos Rings for the Infinity TF700. I can not get it to run tho. I know that it will not run on a rooted device, but I also know that there is a work around to make it run on rooted device. All the people I have talked to say that if you install superSU or Super User it will run even if you are rooted. You must do a bit more tho also. Here is what the info file says to do. ( yes this is from a torrent site / but I did pay for the game and Square will not refund my money.
The game is labeled as: Chaos Rings 1.0 Root + Offline fix
1. Copy the extracted com.square_enix.chaosrings.googleplay folder to Android/obb of your device.
2. Install the CHAOS_RINGS_v1.0.0m.apk
Note : If you don't have superuser from the market installed it crashes. Even if your not rooted the superuser is needed for this file.
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When I try this I get a screen that says: The Check of a file and download of data are required "OK" ? So I click on "OK" then it says "File Under Download.....0% " and it just sits there forever.
Any one have any luck with this game. Square is no help at all
Thanks for any info
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They removed the block for rooted devices.It should work even if you are rooted.
Looks like you are trying to run a warez version of the game? You are clearly missing the correct obb files.
I have the full version and it works fine. Just reinstall the latest version and obb files.
Hi guys! I have a rooted device (just rooted 2 days ago successfully) and have the ware version. I try both versions v 1.0.0 and v 1.2.5 . I copy-paste to obb folder after installing. Game just gets error during launch. (The unfortunately stopped problem). I try lucky patcher, nothing. What do I do wrong? I
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Hi guys! I have a rooted device (just rooted 2 days ago successfully) and have the ware version. I try both versions v 1.0.0 and v 1.2.5 . I copy-paste to obb folder after installing. Game just gets error during launch. (The unfortunately stopped problem). I try lucky patcher, nothing. What do I do wrong? I
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Buy the game ...
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Buy the game ...
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Clever!
But bad advice and that is what happens when they answer people that they do not know! Even if I would buy it, it can not be used on Androids with Lollipop!
First we are sure we know, then we answer! :good:
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Clever!
But bad advice and that is what happens when they answer people that they do not know! Even if I would buy it, it can not be used on Androids with Lollipop!
First we are sure we know, then we answer! :good:
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Not my problem that you can't buy the game and it still doesn't mean you should be asking and getting warez support on this forum.
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Not my problem that you can't buy the game and it still doesn't mean you should be asking and getting warez support on this forum.
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I made a question and you gave a wrong answer that would be waste of money, but i am sure that advising wrong to people here (especially when you don't know the answer) is not also your problem, as soon as your post count raises . You did not say it is not allowed to ask (that would be a right answer, second best after the "you can't play on lollipop"), you gave both an irrelevant and wrong/bad answer. That is a fact! Of course I would not pay for a game that I don't know if it works on my phone, that's why I tested it!
When people are wrong, they ask sorry, they don't give a second childish answer.
In the end of the day, you answered something different than what I asked and not only you gave two immature (as you don't know what I "can" buy) and irrelevant answers, but also a bad advise and as I could still not play the retail version, a bad/wrong answer!
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I made a question and you gave a wrong answer that would be waste of money, but i am sure that advising wrong to people here (especially when you don't know the answer) is not also your problem, as soon as your post count raises . You did not say it is not allowed to ask (that would be a right answer, second best after the "you can't play on lollipop"), you gave both an irrelevant and wrong/bad answer. That is a fact! Of course I would not pay for a game that I don't know if it works on my phone, that's why I tested it!
When people are wrong, they ask sorry, they don't give a second childish answer.
In the end of the day, you answered something different than what I asked and not only you gave two immature (as you don't know what I "can" buy) and irrelevant answers, but also a bad advise and as I could still not play the retail version, a bad/wrong answer!
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It's not allowed to ask... and this is your warning.
Thread Closed!
So, another day another game thats not compatible with our devices despite being compatible with the Prime and Nexus 7 (can anyone confirm that this works on the Nexus 10?)
My question is has anybody managed to get it working and if so how?
Thanks in advance
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So, another day another game thats not compatible with our devices despite being compatible with the Prime and Nexus 7 (can anyone confirm that this works on the Nexus 10?)
My question is has anybody managed to get it working and if so how?
Thanks in advance
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Can't commit about whether it's working on a Nexus 10, but it not working on my TF700 is frustrating me too. While you can't download it from the store, I've tried installing several different versions and it closes on all of them after the title screen appears.
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Can't commit about whether it's working on a Nexus 10, but it not working on my TF700 is frustrating me too. While you can't download it from the store, I've tried installing several different versions and it closes on all of them after the title screen appears.
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i heard that it does work on the nexus 10 from other forums. Exactly the same story for me my friend, tried about 6 different .apk files all with the same result. It is lazy development by EA especially if the screen resolution is the problem, since the Nexus 10 has a higher one. It makes no sense for a top end device to lose so much compatibility.
I sent EA an email yesterday asking why, and now im waiting for a reply.
Sit tight
Cool. Will be interested to hear if EA responds. My guess is if they do they'll place the blame on Asus and/or Nvidia.
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Cool. Will be interested to hear if EA responds. My guess is if they do they'll place the blame on Asus and/or Nvidia.
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well actually they havent even bothered to reply to me yet, despite me sending 3 emails. its been over a week now, they obviously can't be arsed because they are awful developers.
I'll keep on trying anyway, got nothing to lose right?
a small update
So i actually managed to get a reply from EA (not to the email i directly sent them, which has now been over two weeks since ive had a reply, but a forum topic i started about the compatibility).
They said "It is the decision of the company that builds the device, which Android version runs on it. The Simpsons: Tapped Out requires Andriod version 2.3.3 (or higher)."
Er what? For starters android tablets dont run anything lower than honeycomb (aside from the original galaxy tab), and the TF700 is a MUCH newer device so automatically runs at least honeycomb. As we all know it did in fact come with ICS.
So yeah, pretty unhelpful, but at least i got a reply. Waiting for the next one now i guess.
LOL. That's an even more useless response then I expected you'd get, but thanks for the updates.
UPDATE!
I received an email from EA today:
"Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts.
I sincerely apologize for the delay in response. Going forward, we would do our best to respond in time.
Having going through your email I found that you want to know about the compatibility for the game "The Simpsons: Tapped Out". I'll do my best to help you out.
I request you to please refer the link given below to check the compatibility of the game.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1727131
Feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns. You can also receive online assistance at http://help.ea.com/
Regards,
Navin
Electronic Arts- World Wide Customer Experience."
Go on guys, follow the google link, you'll find its worse than useless.
I guess im grateful for a reply FINALLY, however aside from "helping me out" that link made the reply useless.
Lets all give EA a round of applause.
Still no reply from EA I guess....I started this forum topic over on the Tapped Out forums. I encourage anyone with an Infinity to hop over there and voice your disappointment in the support EA provides for its hottest games. Here is the link: hxxp://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/9453462.page#28257145.
Jeff
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Still no reply from EA I guess....I started this forum topic over on the Tapped Out forums. I encourage anyone with an Infinity to hop over there and voice your disappointment in the support EA provides for its hottest games. Here is the link: hxxp://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/9453462.page#28257145.
Jeff
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Actually....
Appologies for not posting sooner but ive been pretty busy with uni.
Anyway i have indeed received another reply. After them asking me what device i was using, what version and what the problem with the game is (!!!), they forwarded the information i gave them to another department :-|. THEN i got a reply...
They said that they would forward my query to the studio who actually make the game, and they will deal with it.
However, they said that i shouldnt really expect a reply, and even then they may do nothing. He ended by saying the game may or may not ever be compatible. Great.
I definitely shall be joining that forum and voicing my opinion, it worked for the sims free play after all.
At the moment it doesnt seem likely.
Wasn't there a "worst company" award recently?
I'm an owner of a Acer a700, which have the same hardware (tegra3, 1920*1200 res), and the game don't work on it too...
DeLoreanQC said:
I'm an owner of a Acer a700, which have the same hardware (tegra3, 1920*1200 res), and the game don't work on it too...
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I did wonder if this device was compatible given the strong similarities. Thanks.
still no compatibility despite the latest update. Im gonna go on the forums and complain some more and request that the 4.3 update also includes compatibility I suggest everyone else does the same for the maximum impact.
SUCCESS!!
MAJOR UPDATE! The compatibility on the play store still lists the game as incompatible.
HOWEVER, google search "the simpsons tapped out v4.3.0 apk" and click the third link (it's apkwikipedia). You will find an apk to download in a zipped format (.zip or .rar can't remember). Anyway, the apk is working and as i speak im downloading the updates on the main page!
It is a modded apk (at least one of the .apk files in the package is) so you will get unlimited money.
Regardless, it is now possible to play the game on the tablet. I will update any problems/issues encountered once i've tested it.
Download and get playing! Spread the word!
EDIT: i have played around with it and everything seems to work as well as on my phone. If you lose your friends list, just sign in and out again of origin and they should turn up.
Finally got this game to work on my Asus TF700 and not by using a modded apk. Got fed up with the freezing and force closes that I was experiencing ever since I got this tablet using the official firmware, so I unlocked and rooted my tablet and loaded the Cromi-X rom onto it. Big improvement in performance. And to get This game to work, I downloaded an app called Market Helper which tricks thr Play store into thinking your phone or tablet is a different phone or tablet. The Market Helper app requires root, isn't available in the Play Store (so google it to find it) and while I couldn‘t get it to work the Play Store app, it worked great via the online Play Store (and once you reboot, your device ID goes back to it‘s orginal state).
Glad more people are getting it to work. To clarify, the link i posted does has both a modded .apk and a non added .apk
Also, slightly unrelated, how is Cromi-X performance wise? Was it easy to do? Did you keep all your apps and system preferences? Will it be possible to keep the game when installing this custom rom? Need to do more research before i commit!