[Q] NxS: 512 MB or 512 "Samsung Megabytes"? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I guess, that it should be 512 MB RAM, video memory excluded... any factual info?

it should be exactly the same as the Galaxy S phones so if you look that up you'll have your answer.

neok44 said:
it should be exactly the same as the Galaxy S phones so if you look that up you'll have your answer.
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The Galaxy Tab is(was) advertised as being equipped with 512 MB RAM... just (un)like the SgS family.
I would appreciate factual answers - preferably with screenshots - instead of generic blah blah.

I would like to know this as well.
How much of visible RAM is there on the nexus S?

346MB is visible to userspace (MemTotal in /proc/meminfo).
The hardware has 512MB of ram which is shared between Linux, carve-outs for the a/v hardware, the baseband, and shared memory between the baseband and Linux.

swetland said:
346MB is visible to userspace (MemTotal in /proc/meminfo).
The hardware has 512MB of ram which is shared between Linux, carve-outs for the a/v hardware, the baseband, and shared memory between the baseband and Linux.
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Thanks!
Unfortunate news, plus only USA and UK will get SAMOLED screen... the rest gets SuperClear. Dang.

Where did u hear that ?

-MojaV- said:
Where did u hear that ?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nexus-s-will-drop-super-amoled-in-favor-of-super-clear-lcd-in-ru/

According to that article, only Russia gets S-LCD.

Superfrag said:
According to that article, only Russia gets S-LCD.
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Nope, try again.
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[q] Available RAM

Can someone figure out, on the LATEST FIRMWARE, how many mb out of 1024 are actually usable by the system?
Quadrant>system info is a good place to check.
iconia has 745 (really good imo)
thanks.
The newest firmware 8.2.3.9 has 746100 kb
thepctech said:
The newest firmware 8.2.3.9 has 746100 kb
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thx bro. ASUS WINS BY 2 MB
jcarrz1 said:
thx bro. ASUS WINS BY 2 MB
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Not really, it totally depends on what's running on your tab at the time, it's not a set number. Everything is available it just doesn't show what android itself is using.
We are not talking about free RAM, we're talking about RAM available to the OS. This will be the "big number" in task manager or as Quadrant reports it. Useful to know because different devices can have the same amount of physical RAM installed but various amounts reserved for GPU, camera etc.
Also, 746100 kb = 728MB RAM. Less than Acer? Strange.

May the sensation have 1Gb "hidden" of ram?

Ok first of all, i'm OK with the 764MB of ram, actually.
But it's good to know if there is any posibility, of having a 1GB of ram, because there is a lot of phones, with a hiden ram.
Xperia X10 is suposed to have 256, but really have 320, HTC HD2 442mb, 512 real, and other phones with "hidden ram" so, maybe our sensations have 1GB but it's hidden, or unabled!!!
What do you think? there is any way to know that?
thanks
Yes it is possible, like with rom, officialy it is 1GB, but it is 4GB ! 3GB is hidden for system, updates, etc. With s-off and root we could change this. Also in case of ram: 768 is not popular, ram chips are 0,25, 0,5; 1, 2 usual, I dont understand why htc rask manager shows 556 MB (100-180 free), but android running apps shows different number (280-300 MB free)... someone would need to disassemble sensation and look on chips numeration....
elektrownik said:
someone would need to disassemble sensation and look on chips numeration....
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That's true!!
Maybe have FM transmitter, and other unabled features!
We do have an FM radio.
Paging Dr B said:
We do have an FM radio.
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I mean transmiter, not reciver, to transmit the sound of the phone via radio ( if you whant to put your music on a old car via FM )
tomeu0000 said:
I mean transmiter, not reciver, to transmit the sound of the phone via radio ( if you whant to put your music on a old car via FM )
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Ohhh, yeah that would be pretty cool. I've used after market ones, but I wasn't aware that any phones included that built in.
elektrownik said:
Yes it is possible, like with rom, officialy it is 1GB, but it is 4GB ! 3GB is hidden for system, updates, etc. With s-off and root we could change this. Also in case of ram: 768 is not popular, ram chips are 0,25, 0,5; 1, 2 usual, I dont understand why htc rask manager shows 556 MB (100-180 free), but android running apps shows different number (280-300 MB free)... someone would need to disassemble sensation and look on chips numeration....
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While chip is definitely 4gb, it has been formatted to reduce capacity but increase speed. No, you will not get 4gb out of it no matter what you do, once it's formatted that way - there's no way back. There are no "hidden" partitions, nothing is reserved for future updates or any other BS like that.
Ram memory is definitely 768MB. While it's not the most popular size, it has been used before (MyTouch 4G, Incredible S, Desire HD to name few). You will not see all of it in any task manager because 100+ MB is reserved for stuff below OS level (radio, gpu, etc) which is absolutely ridiculous but that's the way HTC does things.
If anyone is wondering, Android's running apps is most likely showing the correct number of free memory.
borodin1 said:
While chip is definitely 4gb, it has been formatted to reduce capacity but increase speed.
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Formatted ?
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-offers-just-1gb-of-4gb-rom-to-users-12145797/
borodin1 said:
it has been formatted to reduce capacity but increase speed.
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SGSII with 16Gb is faster whitout that format...
I don't know why you think it are 768MB
SysInfo tells my my Sensation has 1.15GB
See ScreenShot.
And I have round 95 App's Installed
Ghostrider said:
I don't know why you think it are 768MB
SysInfo tells my my Sensation has 1.15GB
See ScreenShot.
And I have round 95 App's Installed
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He is talking about the amount of RAM inside the phone, while you're talking about the amount of storage space. 2 different things.
IJS-T said:
He is talking about the amount of RAM inside the phone, while you're talking about the amount of storage space. 2 different things.
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Oh..., ok my wrong
but then you all have more then I
Ghostrider said:
I don't know why you think it are 768MB
SysInfo tells my my Sensation has 1.15GB
See ScreenShot.
And I have round 95 App's Installed
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You are looking at disk space (capacity) and they are speaking of RAM (memory).
elektrownik said:
Formatted ?
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-offers-just-1gb-of-4gb-rom-to-users-12145797/
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Partitioned, not formatted. English is not one of my strongest points (second language).
Here's the info, if you're really interested.
http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/EMMC/UnderstandingUserCapacity
G2/Desire Z wiki has simpler explanation.
tomeu0000 said:
SGSII with 16Gb is faster whitout that format...
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Faster is not always more reliable but feel free to import one for $800+ and find out.... I'll "crawl" with my "slower" sensation and half of grand in my pocket. And yes, I'll envy you because I do like SGS2, just don't think it's worth that much with very little known about warranty and such....

Galaxy S I9003 Q&A archive

New firware spotted here: http://www.samfirmware.com/WEBPROTECT-i9000.htm
I9003 I9003XXJL9, Version 2.2.1, anyone tried?
long time since last leak. wonder what changes is done in this version
i think we have to wait some months untill a good fw like darky's 8.0 + speedmod kernel
samfirmware said "do not flash i9003 rom on i9000"
Am I the only one who read rules, only one who notices its for DIFFERENT PHONE and only one to understand it should be posted in nexus forum?
opps, I had missed out that part "DO NOT FLASH I9003 ROMS ON I9000", so excited while spotted new fw release....
why they posted it in i9000 firmwares ?
YEAH!!!
Check the launch site:
http://mea.samsungmobile.com/ENG/mobile-phones/samsung-i9003-galaxy-sl
I see all the same.
Except the "super-clear" LCD. Really? Super Amoled - Super clear LCD?
Enjoy the best viewing experience with 4 inch SUPER CLEAR LCD display. You can watch your favourite content in broad daylight and enjoy a crisp, clear picture. And, with 1 GHz processor, 16 GB internal memory, and Wireless Tethering, you have the speed, space, and access you need to stay connected wherever you roam.
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All the other stuff is the same asi in i9000.
Did you found something else?
they replaced the SAMOLED with SLCD
That's what samfirmware posted about it:
The existence of Super Clear LCD in Galaxy S’ new variant I9003, has now been confirmed.
Thanks to listing on Samsung’s website, we now have an official confirmation that the GT-I9003 will be known as Galaxy SL and features a 4-inch Super Clear LCD (WVGA) and a higher capacity 1650mAh battery, like the Galaxy S 4G. A bigger battery has also made the Galaxy SL a bit thick, which is 10.59mm as compared to I9000’s 9.9mm and heavier than the Super AMOLED variant by 12g.
Rest of the features remain the same.
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There's a massive difference. According to GSMArena, the new phone has 478 MB of RAM available to the user. Now that would be nice to have.
bolmedias said:
There's a massive difference. According to GSMArena, the new phone has 478 MB of RAM available to the user. Now that would be nice to have.
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Does this mean what I think it means? That our original galaxy S never had 512MB of RAM? Either that or the I9003 has more than 512MB RAM.
Does this mean what I think it means? That our original galaxy S never had 512MB of RAM? Either that or the I9003 has more than 512MB RAM.
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It was had been discussed many times: Samsung Galaxy S do have 512 mb ram but shows only 339, and those of Samsung devices which show more (like Tab), just have more (640 mb) physical ram.
Unrealwolf said:
It was had been discussed many times: Samsung Galaxy S do have 512 mb ram but shows only 339, and those of Samsung devices which show more (like Tab), just have more (640 mb) physical ram.
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You miss the point entirely. The I9003 Galaxy SL is listed as having the same 512 MB RAM. So why does it have 478MB of user accessible RAM.
One explanation could be that the Humming bird requires more dedicated RAM (hence not accessilble to the user) while the other CPU's dont. That will also explain why the nexus S (again 512MB RAM and hummmingbird processor) has only 339MB user accessible memory
You miss the point entirely.
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Nope.
The I9003 Galaxy SL is listed as having the same 512 MB RAM.
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And so is Galaxy Tab. Advertised as 512 mb, in fact has 640 mb.
this is a downgrade.. read the review on gsmarena.
they are switching to slcd because hey dont have enough supply of super amoled and need them for other customers and new galaxy s2.. but they still want to keep selling a version of this phone.
the phone is also heavier and thicker.. with a slightly larger battery to make up for the poorer performance of the different led.
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Nope.
And so is Galaxy Tab. Advertised as 512 mb, in fact has 640 mb.
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OK, got your point. But why would a manufacturer specify less than Actual RAM for any device. If a phone actually has 640MB of RAM. Isnt it bad advertising. I would be more inlclined to buy a phone if if it has 640 MB RAM
This phone makes no sense,it uses a ti omap 3630+SGX530 SoC instead of the usual hummingbird and SGX540. I see no reason why it should be called a "galaxy s" phone as it seems to share nothing other than the body design.Why no hummingbird, isn't the 530 a downgrade in comparison to the 540 gpu?
source:-
GSMarena review ( cant post links yet)
The CPU is different as well. It comes with a 1GHz TI OMAP 3630 instead of a Hummingbird CPU.
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The I9003 SL is merely a way to make sure there will be AMOLED panels for the Galaxy S2 without the need to discontinue the original Galaxy S altogether.
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Shoot me if Im wrong but the difference in user available RAM doesnt depend on the the cpu but on the separate GPU. I suspect that the gtx540 (contra the gtx530) uses dedicated and a portion of shared RAM just like many computer GPUs and Im not one bit surprised that its constant beacause dynamic RAM distribution didnt appear before windows 7 x64 for an example (again, shoot me if im wrong , please do). Furthermore I think the main reason gingerbread makes the nexus s UI more fluid than the Galaxy s is that it is hardware accelerated and Froyo isnt.
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[Q] Upgrading laptops RAM..

Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
noodles2224 said:
Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
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On Crucial's website they have a memory configurator that will tell you what options work.
noodles2224 said:
Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
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This is not the right place no, this is a forum for developers of mobile devices, if you need computer help you should head over to the off topic computer help thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
zacthespack said:
This is not the right place no, this is a forum for developers of mobile devices, if you need computer help you should head over to the off topic computer help thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
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check compatible ram on your motherboards manufacture website, then do a review on some of them on google for whats best.
make sure u get 2 of the same type!
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On Crucial's website they have a memory configurator that will tell you what options work.
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Thank you, worked great and found my 2x4gb

How much ram? Exynos vs Snapdragon.

Hi,
I know that s7 with exynos shows ~3.5 GB RAM(all). Disk info, cpu-z, aida etc.
What about s7 with snapdragon(g930)?
Can anybody show screenshots from these apks?
Thanks.
dzidexx said:
Hi,
I know that s7 with exynos shows ~3.5 GB RAM(all). Disk info, cpu-z, aida etc.
What about s7 with snapdragon?
Can anybody show screenshots from these apks?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure why you need a screenshot.
Both devices have 4GB of hardware RAM.
RAM available at runtime will be dependent entirely on the user, carrier bloat, and ROM (stock / custom)
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bob11222 said:
I'm not sure why you need a screenshot.
Both devices have 4GB of hardware RAM.
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In official specs only.
I'm not asking for free/used, asking for all ram.
Check yourself - disk info - google play store.
4Giga=4*10^9; 4*10^9:1024=3906,250MB but 4GB=4098MB.
Screen from s7 with exynos(3,562GB):
Around 500MB is reserved for the System AFAIK so that is why there might be less than 4GB in that program.
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Around 500MB is reserved for the System AFAIK so that is why there might be less than 4GB in that program.
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Its for gpu memory too, people seem to forget that the ram is shared with the gpu too.
Another mystery solved! ?
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