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[REQUESTS] Canadian-Market Nexus S in hand, who wants what?

I've got the canadian market RETAIL nexus S in hand ATM moment, North american 3g, working GPS even without WiFi assistance... All the good stuff.
So, who wants what files and where do you want them?
I'm sure galaxy S i9k owners are going to go nuts for this stuff.

Wow so Telus is actually getting the Nexus S? I thought it was all rumors lol... this will make my friend very happy.
0mega1 said:
I've got the canadian market RETAIL nexus S in hand ATM moment, North american 3g, working GPS even without WiFi assistance... All the good stuff.
So, who wants what files and where do you want them?
I'm sure galaxy S i9k owners are going to go nuts for this stuff.
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dinan said:
Wow so Telus is actually getting the Nexus S? I thought it was all rumors lol... this will make my friend very happy.
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Nope, Telus isn't getting it
*hint hint*

0mega1 said:
I've got the canadian market RETAIL nexus S in hand ATM moment, North american 3g, working GPS even without WiFi assistance... All the good stuff.
So, who wants what files and where do you want them?
I'm sure galaxy S i9k owners are going to go nuts for this stuff.
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ah finally Rogers gets a good phone. is it SLCD?

Well whoever's getting it... canada needs a decent android phone to make up for that trash they call the Atrix.
Except for those Wind/Mobilicity users who have been using the nexus S for months now... =)

dinan said:
Well whoever's getting it... canada needs a decent android phone to make up for that trash they call the Atrix.
Except for those Wind/Mobilicity users who have been using the nexus S for months now... =)
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Sorry whats wrong with the atrix? The screen is one thing. It's better for text, worse for solid colors, but seriously, the atrix, trash? No.
It's going to be a universal launch. Unlocked, all carriers, One price.
Koodo on tab, Virgin available for super tab, 3 yrs for all others, or straight up around 550.
It's pretty neat, but no superphone.

Did you try one? I actually picked one up from Bell on release day and used it for a week to see if I would make the switch. The result was a resounding no... it's just sluggish and choppy because of Motoblur. It's a typical case of good hardware, terrible software and execution. I could give you a detailed review of the shortcomings but that's not really the scope of this thread so... yay nexus =)
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Sorry whats wrong with the atrix? The screen is one thing. It's better for text, worse for solid colors, but seriously, the atrix, trash? No.
It's going to be a universal launch. Unlocked, all carriers, One price.
Koodo on tab, Virgin available for super tab, 3 yrs for all others, or straight up around 550.
It's pretty neat, but no superphone.
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uhhh. you could probably just do a system dump, its everything

I do
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i presume we're all talking about Nexus Prime, not S, right?

Dokted said:
i presume we're all talking about Nexus Prime, not S, right?
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based on his last few replies & threads hes been replying too, Im gonna guess hes trolling

Go ahead thread diggers.
This is March 2011 stuff, when the Nexus S was brought into Canadian provinces...

Dokted said:
i presume we're all talking about Nexus Prime, not S, right?
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Nexus 4
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polobunny said:
Go ahead thread diggers.
This is March 2011 stuff, when the Nexus S was brought into Canadian provinces...
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But people still by them even today
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No.
It is just this "shivammcool" is going around resurrecting old threads.
This is not his first. He is living in the past.
Heeter
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request delete for the thread..

How long will NS Last?

Its on Gingerbread and im sure it will get Ice Cream or whatever, will it get the one after that though? And what about even after that!
I just want a phone that can last me a long time (at least 2 years)
NS has everything I want and need, as long it has the latest updates im good, and I dont like to root and rom and stuff, I just want all stock stuff.

With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.

xspyda said:
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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Doubt it. They'd drop support for the Nexus One before NS.
the nexus series last longer than regular android phones. So you shouldn't be too Worried.
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Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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It should last a very long time and get every update Google throws at it
I mean there's only so much u can add to a phone dual core better camera better screen.....

princeasi said:
Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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totally agreed, I find myself struggling with the iOS/Droid battle, but i usually try to stick with a phone for at least a quarter. i have problems

i think the nexus s will be supported, after all, the nexus one came out with eclair and got both froyo and gingerbread. im just trying to decide which phone to get, an epic or a nexus S 4g.

xspyda said:
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
JD

JupiterDroid said:
What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
JD
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Lol. Go check out the atrix dev section.

The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.

Zardos66 said:
The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.
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Can you please elaborate?

JupiterDroid said:
What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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huh? I'm talking about the custom roms etc ... am I missing something?

Probably quite a while.
I would assume the Ice Cream update would be the biggest leap so far, especially if its going to bring Honeycomb features to phones. (ie hardware acceleration, holograpic UI etc.)
And the Nexus One/S would probably the only phones to get the update for a while.
You should be worried when they stop support for the Nexus One first.

robstunner said:
Can you please elaborate?
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.

Zardos66 said:
The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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Oh man! You scared me for a second! I thought ATT was going to get rid of 3G and only go 4G or something! ATT has always been good to me so I cant wait to get my ATT NS!

Zardos66 said:
The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........

Not to mention it would be a material breach of contract and allow millions out of a contract. Wouldn't be a very smart move IMO.
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robstunner said:
thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........
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and canadian towers.. i believe not 100% sure but i remember AllGamer saying something about this?

JupiterDroid said:
What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
JD
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Hmm I've noticed that the Dev section isn't as booming as I thought it would be considering this is a Nexus phone. I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
Will the dev section pick up once the AT&T, Sprint and the Canadian carriers pick it up, or did people just decide to skip over the Nexus S for some reason? I'll assume it's the former.

Enhanced said:
I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
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AFAIK, it's been available in uk since it's original December launch.

New Infuse Owner and I'm amazed!

I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!

breitlingtim said:
I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Awesome! Welcome to the land of enormous phones!

breitlingtim said:
I was screwed by Sony when I sent my Unlocked Xperia X10 in for repair and they sent me a Brand New phone, but it's locked to Rogers and can't get an unlock code anywhere for it. So I took the opportunity to get a new phone. I picked the Infuse up at Amazon last week for $129. I waited very impatiently to get it today and I have to say this phone is ridiculous! I can't get over the screen and how fast it is. I have no regrets at all and will be a proud owner for a very long time I'm sure. Next comes rooting it and throwing Infused on it possibly. Have a good one guys!
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Yeah sony needs to think long and hard about their product road map. Their cell phones are so late to the game. Doesn't bring any UI that is truly exceptional. I was a hardcore SE fan, but the Xperia X1 was such a turn off.... I love the Sony build quality but avast the software is lacking.... ((
I really like their Design of the Arc, but probably updates are far and nothing in between.... sad....
But totally glad you joined the Galaxy S class!

Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.

keitht said:
Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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the growth of this community is slow going though

hoofadoo said:
the growth of this community is slow going though
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The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.

keitht said:
The phone has been out less than a month. It is also possible we will not see as many developers as a more Samsung flagship phone like Galaxy S, Galaxy S II. But I am sure we will have enough developer support to make it much better than stock. It is already better than stock with the few ROM's we have now. Custom kernel's will be a huge bonus. One developer here already said he is working on that.
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I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon

hoofadoo said:
cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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That I can agree with.

keitht said:
Wait until we get custom kernels with ext4 and other tweaks along with more ROM developers. We haven't seen the best this phone can offer yet.
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What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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rjan22 said:
What does ext 4 do?
Partition the SD card? Lol
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It is a MUCH more efficient file system than the stock RFS

Here's a good XDA thread on the differences:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799931

hoofadoo said:
I'd be happy with something Gingerbread CM7, MIUI... cant hold your breath for ATT to release GB anytime soon
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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones

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yeah they will likely release the attain before they consider gb on the infuse and captivate, it is a shame because samsung clearly can deliver it if they had control over the release schedules. hopefully the nexus s 4g and evo2/evo3d will entice them to release gb slightly earlier. att would be soo much better if they had some real competition in america. t-mo is too small in america and the nexus isnt a big enough seller, verizon doesnt get updates for samsung, they manage to be slower than att in that area and motorola doesnt have an official gb on any platform that i know of yet (driox2? maybe havent looked into it) i think for att to get there act together and deliver updates when they are available from the manufacturers it will take sprint to release gb on the evo/evo2 since that phone is soo well recognised. untill there is some outside competition they will hold back updates to artificially inflate the value of the next big phones
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not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...

hoofadoo said:
not to mention AT&T has bought out T-Mobile anyway...
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Not approved yet and hopefully will not.

keitht said:
Not approved yet and hopefully will not.
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dont hold your breath, it probably will

hoofadoo said:
dont hold your breath, it probably will
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I haven't been following the for and against arguments for this but my first thought is that it will raise prices across the board. Eliminating the carriers that offer more inexpensive options can't be good for consumers.

I doubt it will raise prices for att customers, we'll just get better service, and an actual lte rollout. Tmobile customers are the ones who are getting screwed.

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It is a MUCH more efficient file system than the stock RFS
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This is Samsung's proprietary filesystem, isn't it? I believe they use it on all of their devices that require a filesystem. It's sad that the software developers working for Samsung didn't stop to think that a FAT based filesystem (RFS) might not be the best option for their Android based devices.

Information regarding upcoming Nexus Prime Leaks [Update]

Hey guys, not long ago there had been reports regarding an anonymous user having the opportunity to try out a Nexus Prime beta unit and he reported the information on the net. Here are the details.
http://www.seednonym.com/2011/09/information-regarding-upcoming-nexus.html
The reliability of the information is rather solid itself, as it was Samsung itself who granted the "anonymous" the test unit.
Let me know what you guys think. Thank you. The information may not be precise, hence read it with a pinch of salt.
Update 1: Accordingly current Exynos chipsets do not support LTE and the Nexus Prime is unlikely to be 3G only. Most predictions are pointing towards TI OMAP4460 bundled with PowerVR SGX544.

Rumors and rumors, an anonymous 4chan user
lol 4chan has zero credibility from everything I hear.

i think it is just a rumor again. Just wait to November when Samsung/Google release it :d

haha yeah, just that the rumour sounds too true to be rumour, i've decided to share it with you guys.

First post updated.

you can't believe anything from 4chan, there's no solid proof
also if they did had it on hand, why they couldn't even snap a picture of the phone, huh?
LOL at least they could have photoshop one to make it more believable

Prime will be using omap chip as confirmed since day 1. Don't know when exynos rumor began?
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Rumors... We'll see in a few months. I would prefer if HTC got to build the new Nexus.

septix said:
Rumors... We'll see in a few months. I would prefer if HTC got to build the new Nexus.
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really?
i'd prefer Google/Motorola to make the next Nexus. Probably going towards that way anyhow.

Also would prefer Google/HTC make this bad boy...like they did for the N1.

AllGamer said:
you can't believe anything from 4chan, there's no solid proof
also if they did had it on hand, why they couldn't even snap a picture of the phone, huh?
LOL at least they could have photoshop one to make it more believable
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Haha, yeah I do realize that.
However this could very well sort of "around-there-i-think" kind of rumour. It wouldn't get over that nor would I go under eh?

galaxys said:
Also would prefer Google/HTC make this bad boy...like they did for the N1.
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Although I'd like to see the same, Samsung does tend to have much better hardware. It doesn't really matter who makes it though because it'll still have stock Android on it.

The folders and ease of use of the device, sounds a lot like the Droid Bionic.

No new leaks.

So it's been a little while since we've seen a new leak. I'm thinking Gingerbread is now done and in the hands of AT&T. What do you guys think? please, discuss.
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Kevinr678 said:
So it's been a little while since we've seen a new leak. I'm thinking Gingerbread is now done and in the hands of AT&T. What do you guys think? please, discuss.
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Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.

abacona said:
Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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Gingerbread's clearly coming... Look at all the leaks. They aren't just made to tease.
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abacona said:
Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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And the Infuse actually sold extremely well. I worked at an AT&T store.
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The infuse was #2 selling phone all summer
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I've met some ignorant people but some of these posts are mind boggling. Like they manage to ignore the entire forum just to respond to a single post and give their opinion about att.. We only have about 6 or 8 leaks for new firmware on a pretty regular release schedule and an att announcement that we get GB in 2011 and several threads showing the infuse as a top seller but we get responses like these.

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I've met some ignorant people but some of these posts are mind boggling. Like they manage to ignore the entire forum just to respond to a single post and give their opinion about att.. We only have about 6 or 8 leaks for new firmware on a pretty regular release schedule and an att announcement that we get GB in 2011 and several threads showing the infuse as a top seller but we get responses like these.
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So, we are 99% sure that we will get it. LOL At least by early to mid January, right.
But seriously, I hear you Dani, I love my phone and can't understand why since the SG2 and Nexus and Atrix are out suddenly people call ours ****e? It is annoying. Our phone is top quality.
Besides, after reading the discussion in the leak threads about how the video issue came up with all of the modded kernels and most importantly the assumption that AT&T developers care about what we do here at the forums so much that they use us as guinea pigs(in a good way) they stopped releasing leaks until they were ready for the official, I just took those words for GOLD and decided we are waiting. Was I wrong?

I think the OP thinks to much
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CheesyNutz said:
I think the OP thinks to much
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[email protected] Cheesy
But seriously, can you think too much when software development is involved?

CheesyNutz said:
I think the OP thinks to much
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Maybe I do, but it seems pretty probable to me, Cheesy
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abacona said:
Tbh I don't think at&t gives a **** about infuse owners. It didn't sell too well. They're focusing on marketing the skyrocket and attain sgs2 models.
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1) Yes, AT&T Doesn't give a damn about firmware updates.
2) The Infuse sold extremely well.
3) I've seen very little advertising on the Skyrocket, yet continue to see ads for the Infuse (as recently as this past week on TV and yesterday in a target flyer.)
I've decided I can live with the ROMS in our forums here and AT&T can kiss my shiny metal arse.

Well, not sure if this is any indication, but my local Walmart is selling infuse cases, as well as screen protectors, while there is nothing on the SGSII or Skyrocket. Honestly I think Samsung is spewing out more expensive versions of practically the same phone, and the Infuse is the OG in this siuation. *thinks of carbon copying phones, and sees a conspiracy theory!*
Since I follow these forums as well as the Xperia Play forums, my hypothesis is:
-They were testing GB
-They LOLragequit and decided to make all newer android phones upgradeable to ICS
-they plan on releasing ICS in January or February.
I know these are some out-there speculations, but AT&T tends to send firmware updates in batches, and it has been confirmed by Sony Ericsson that they are planning on ICS for the Play by February 2012.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

What I think is that as usual att is behind schedule. Maybe Samsung put us off while developing a whole new line. Either way I doubt we will see official this month. but the idea we will never see it is just ignoring the evidence. They wouldn't be working on it so aggressively if they didn't intend to release it. Also since att probably only wanted one update the wait is kinda a good thing since we'll get at least 2.3.6 and not 2.3.3 like Rogers got.

I honestly don't think we will see gb officially. Bit I have had gingerbread on my phone for a while now
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I think the Infuse is a decent phone.
Already fast.
Dual core means didily squat...to me, it a phone. If you want fast, get a tablet or netbook or laptop.
4.5" is just right in my back pocket or breast pocket.
GB leak is prob near completion.
I'm expecting a OTA within a month or two.
If it doesn't, UCKK4 stock is fine for me as well.
Some of the tweaks added to CatyROM (acid, thunderbolt or adrenaline) or some we can add ourselves may be better than the release....unless samsung has been follow the threads and incorporate them into the new release.
my2cents...
my next phone should have a neuro connection I can jam into my brain. It'll be instant like my thoughts. It'll run off my stored fat. And I will be assimilated

jpapa1086 said:
The infuse was #2 selling phone all summer
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Right after the iPhone, and it would still be if it weren't for the new models.
What people don't seem to get, is that AT&T is also deving for the phone, they encounter the same issues that our devs encounter. Bluetooth issues, HDMI output, the only difference is that they are "Official Updates" because they are carrier released.
The only good conclusion about no leaks, is that it got it's kinks worked out and its in the final stages of testing to make sure no kinks were left untreated.
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What I think is that as usual att is behind schedule. Maybe Samsung put us off while developing a whole new line. Either way I doubt we will see official this month. but the idea we will never see it is just ignoring the evidence. They wouldn't be working on it so aggressively if they didn't intend to release it. Also since att probably only wanted one update the wait is kinda a good thing since we'll get at least 2.3.6 and not 2.3.3 like Rogers got.
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This could be very true. remember the backflip, that thing got its update to 2.1 like 4 months after it was planned. and to be honest, AT&T never said by years end. it said is 2011 android line will expect to receive gingerbread.
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Customers who purchased an Android smartphone from AT&T introduced in 2011 can expect to receive an update to Android 2.3. All of these devices are planned to be upgraded from Android 2.2 to Android 2.3, also referred to as Gingerbread. In addition, Samsung Captivate™ owners will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread.
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Customers who purchased an Android in 2011 will EXPECT a update. no where on there does it says by years end.

Actually, it says "Can EXPECT". Frankly, I can expect to win the lottery and magic beans to sprout in my garden.
The possibilities are endless!

We will get it people...like dani said...they are not gonna waste time and resources to develop these leaks to just not update us....its not logical and frankly doesn't make sense....have patience people...
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They spent all the time and money on developing the leaks just to keep the profit margin down. That way taxes are to high.

Damn, we have some really pessimistic people in these forums. All I wanted was a discussion.thread, not an AT&T sucks thread :/
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