Anyone else having troubles getting Quadrant to run the 12 cpu tests? Mine always shows 0/12 on them. I also noticed in the "System Information" screen it reports "?" as my cpu frequency. That leads me to believe there is something wrong in either Quadrant or the kernel.
Anyone else noticing this?
I've seen it only 2 out of 10+ times
unhappyrobot said:
Anyone else having troubles getting Quadrant to run the 12 cpu tests? Mine always shows 0/12 on them. I also noticed in the "System Information" screen it reports "?" as my cpu frequency. That leads me to believe there is something wrong in either Quadrant or the kernel.
Anyone else noticing this?
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I've seen it only two times, the bar at the bottom is supposed to be a green progress bar as well. Not sure what I did to get it to show.
It is running the tests... thus the Long pause when it first atarts... it just isn't updating the test count x/12... I have this on other devices I've run it on too... some will count in one orientation (portrait vs. landscape), some never show count in first tests...
I was getting low scores and the cpu tests weren't running...then went to settings applications and chatews data... CPU tests team and scores were much higher 2 or 300 points delta.
When you run Quadrant, make sure you are holding your tablet in portrait mode. Not sure why it matters but it does. You will see the cpu test run fine when its in portrait mode.
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So after reading nearly 5 hours and spending my time in the wee hours of morning, I finally did all the "stable" mods for the phone... If you haven't been reading, make sure you guys check out the stuff in the development forum.
After all modifications, I was able to get 2701 points in quadrant benchmark. What mods did I do?
-i9000 eclair flash (JM5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734871
-Alternative mimocans lag fix
(one click installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495)
-One click root (googled it for i9000)
-Overclock kernel 1.0Ghz to 1.2Ghz
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746343)
This stuff really does help out your phone folks. Bench it now with quadrant, then take a peak at the other stuff and make magic happen. If anyone needs any additional help setting up their captivate, I'm more than happy to help.
I agree those fixes help speed a lot. But the quadrant score is meaningless. the speed hack creates an io loopback. The loopback just tells quadrant what it wants to hear.
Does your BT work on the european ROM. For me all people hear is a gargeled mess on there end?
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Can you post the results of these tests:
Neocore
Linpack
CPU Benchmark
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
jhego said:
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
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Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
modest_mandroid said:
Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
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This is correct and to be honest there is way to much weight in the I/O tests. That is the only reason that the stock Droid X bests the Gal X. It has more weight than cpu and gpu so you can't put to much into those scores. They really don't mean anything more than bragging rights. What I am interested in is real world usage.
Real world use with the hack provides amazing speed gains opening and switching apps. Io heavy apps are very much improved while open too. It's finally as fast as the iphone.
Whats your battery life like after the overclock?
The score ended up getting lower and lower every time i used quadrant. 2701 is the highest I was able to get so far, but that's with a fresh install of the rom and all the stuff before I started loading on apps. Everytime I ran the benchmark, I of course killed the apps beforehand.
The battery life is the same- to be honest. This is me comparing a rooted stock ROM to the somewhat fresh install of the eclair i9000. The phone is very snappy. I came from an iPhone 4 and one of the biggest eye sores to me was the less-fluidness of changing programs, response to buttons (homescreen-back button) and pinch to zoom. After all these changes, it's a whole different story. Browsing is very appealing, especially since pinch to zoom isn't jagged or slow. The smoothness of this functionality is on par to an iPhone. And there is no waiting when I press the home button or back button.
True, maybe these numbers aren't considerably accurate (as far as the lag fix and EXT2) but at least it shows raw computing capability in it's current state... meaning, the usage of a virtual EXT2. Never the less, the phone is still all around faster, even if it isn't exactly the proper way of going about it.
The only problem I've seen so far is that it likes to randomly shut off. Won't respond to anything unless if I soft reset it. I haven't really found what causes it, since the consistency of it happening goes about in a non set pattern.
I didn't see any real world increase .. so I reverted back in about 4 hours.... I'd rather have the memory than a number that don't transfer to real world speeds...
Ok I don't know if it's just my phone or not, butt has anyone noticed a difference in the Linpack app?
My scores seem lower, but who can be sure. The main thing I've noticed is the time. A message comes up where the time used to say 0.12, now says "could take 30+ Seconds"
Anyone else seeing this or is it something on my end?
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Should be in general...
But yes, there is a new linpack. It's more accurate and scores are lower.
They made the results more accurate by increasing the benchmark runtime/the amount of data it has to process. You can't compare old linpack scores with new ones... and no your phone hasn't slowed down or anything bcuz of the lower score... your 1st results (referring to old linpack) just weren't as accurate
How is it that I see alot of people benchmarking 2400+ on the benchmark? I have done the benchmark on the TnT Lite 2.4.0 and Vegan beta4 and both performed around 600-800. This is just from regular flash. Is it overclocking or killing all apps other than the benchmark test before proceeding with test? Does the livewalpaper matter?
Thanks!
I get consistent 2300+, and what you are getting is the behavior of wakeup bug in which when tablet wakeup from the long sleep like overnight, it gets stuck on 500+ quadrant score with subpar performance.
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TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.
Just did mine on TnT Lite 3.1.1 and got a score of CRAP.. never mind.. it just Force Closed on me before I could remember what it was. LOL
Standby... time to re-do it.
Ok result is: 2542
rushless said:
TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.
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I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim
I just killed all apps except for 4 essential apps. Got a lower score of 591. The tablet seems responsive to me. Even played some dungeon heros and I did not experience any lag.
I will have to benchmark the other two tablets and see how they do.
Edit: Redid the benchmark after a reboot and got 2356! which is a significant increase-value wise. My eyes and perception of time deceive me though as I do not notice a difference in usability from when I got the 500-600 scores recently to the 2356 after reboot. I will look into the calendar and autostart problems, see if those are what are keeping my scores down.
Reboot, kill any running apps and you should get some high scores (2000+).
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I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim
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Did 2 more tests, after pressing power button to wake Gtab, and got 1800+ for each test. Didn't do anything special like killing tasks. Again, this is with 3053 stock.
Jim
1800+ avgs seem to be the norm for stock on this device.
I don't know if the 2000+ scores are due to real performance gains or because of the partitioning and swap used in prepping the installation of those ROMs. Since Quadrant is synthetic it doesn't handle certain 'optimizations' added by code well and may misreport the scores. In reality 2000+ may really be 1800 or less, and 600 may also be running higher than reported.
Quadrant Advanced is better in that it gives you details. Much of the score we get on the G Tablet is from the powerful CPU and the abundant memory. TnT lite and VegaN may show 'boosts' to things like the I/O which is normally what is misrepresented as it's not weighted in the app. This is why many Galaxy S phones got 'fake' 2000+ scores due to the Lag Fix and in real testing they were performing at nominally higher than their 900 avging stock, but nowhere close to 2200 which is what most would avg. Testing a Vibrant with lag fix reporting 23xx in fact wasn't even working as fast/quick as a desire HD at 19xx.
I still haven't been able to get my device to slow down after sleep, so I guess that's something I'll have to do when I wake up later. Maybe a longer sleep time will aid me in achieving this. I have also tried everything to get the battery to drain faster, just in case there is some correlation...but I'm hovering at 84% and it's bedtime (according to my wife ).
If anyone else out there has Quadrant Advanced and is on stock and getting the slowdown - if you'd run it and give me some numbers I'd really appreciate it.
Numbers for stock 3899 + Google Apps are as follows:
Avg: 1917 in 3 runs. The avg isn't a calculation, it just means that's the score I got on the 3rd run. Under optimal conditions, the CPU should have maxed out by the 3rd run - but some people keep doing it and use the score that tapers off as max. It should get between 1830 and 1930 with stock.
CPU: 4916
Mem: 2730
IO: 1159
2D: 200
3D: 582
I expect the CPU number to be less than 1/2 during a 'slowdown'.
I expect the rest to be roughly the same.
If you're running a ROM like VegaN or TnT...I'm expecting everything to be the same except I/O which will be higher and maybe 2D/3D because of the newer Tegra drivers.
Update! Finally the pad slowed down just now. It's showing 35% on the battery meter. Not that there's any correlation but I've linked it - just because that's the only time I see the slowdown.
Total: 441
CPU: 918
Memory: 547
IO: 293
2D: 47
3D: 398
The slowing of the CPU has taken a toll on everything else. I thought the rest would look alright but that was stupid on my part. When you run a notebook in low power mode (ex: clock it at less than max), it affects performance across the board - so there was no reason that this should be different. Just wasn't thinking :/
Anyway, there we have it. Now to find a way to fix it permanently.
I'm going to set my wifi to turn off when my screen goes off to see if that helps as someone else noted somewhere.
Putting it in airoplane made overnight did not fix the issue. It woke up with bad sleep bug.
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Is there a benchmark test out there that can accurately judge a phone's performance vs another's? I continually see that people disregard quadrant, but i still want to be able to reliably test my phone's capabilities against someone else's.
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meh....all of it is almost completely useless.
ill tell you this. ive flashes every single rom on here, overclocked all the way up to 1800 and underclocked down to 700. ran every where in between for multiple days, ran every precievable benchmark test i could get my fingers on. getting scores as horrible as 1200, up to 3200 in quadrant. linpack from 20 to 60
and you know what? it has made absolutley ZERO impact on how the phone works with every day use.
when i realized this, was because i THOUGHT i had my phone set to 1800mhz, but didnt actually check the "apply on boot" box, and i was running at 1000mhz for two weeks thinking "wow this overclock makes my phone fast!"
yeah. the only time i see the difference is when performing tests.....oh and underclocking at 700 made the phone laggy, 1800 made it prone to lock up. but i can not tell a differnece in the actually function of the phone in day to day use between 800 and 1600 mhz if its on a good rom.
i get the fun of seeing the scores. but it really is completely useless. i was all about overclocking to see that high linpack and quad score....but now i run steadily underclocked, get crappy scores, and my phone functions flawlesly.
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Look up cf-bench in the market it is supposed to be the most accurate least biased benchmark out there. There is also a thread on it in the general android app section.
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I am just wondering why the Sensation is only hitting around 80MFlops at most in Linpack @ 1.5GHz. It seems that this phone should be getting 100+ every time. I have also noticed that the single core may score 55MFlops while the multicore will only raise that to 60MFlops.
Does it have something to do with the Java libraries? I also saw something about NEON libraries?
I think the highest I've ever scored with my Sensation is 91MFlops.
Thanks for any input on this guys. I know it's just a benchmark, but I'm just curious.
EDIT: Just scored a 27. I'm just gonna uninstall this app and use AnTuTu. How does this CPU ACTUALLY perform against other high end CPUs?
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I am just wondering why the Sensation is only hitting around 80MFlops at most in Linpack @ 1.5GHz. It seems that this phone should be getting 100+ every time. I have also noticed that the single core may score 55MFlops while the multicore will only raise that to 60MFlops.
Does it have something to do with the Java libraries? I also saw something about NEON libraries?
I think the highest I've ever scored with my Sensation is 91MFlops.
Thanks for any input on this guys. I know it's just a benchmark, but I'm just curious.
EDIT: Just scored a 27. I'm just gonna uninstall this app and use AnTuTu. How does this CPU ACTUALLY perform against other high end CPUs?
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Qualcomm actually has better floating point calculations than others, it's one of the benefits of the dragons. If you're using Sense, try linpack on Vanilla and it will be higher. Sense & benches don't go together b/c of something HTC screwed up.
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...lcomm-demonstrates-new-msm8660-processor.html
what exactly is a floating point calculation?
Awesome, thanks!
By Vanilla, do you just mean a stock ROM without Sense? Would CM7 work? I just installed CM7 and set my min max to 1620/1620 and topped out at 101MFlops, but that was only out of 3 runs.
Does this also mean that Sense has slower real-world performance? Or just for benchmarks?
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Awesome, thanks!
By Vanilla, do you just mean a stock ROM without Sense? Would CM7 work? I just installed CM7 and set my min max to 1620/1620 and topped out at 101MFlops, but that was only out of 3 runs.
Does this also mean that Sense has slower real-world performance? Or just for benchmarks?
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Yeah cm or aosp, sense has always been slow with benches since the HTC hero. It doesn't play nice with any bench really, compare the same phone on sense and vanilla and scores are different. I don't know much about floating points but its probably related to how fast things are calculated. The hummingbird had a lower linpack than the scorpions of that time. And this doesn't mean sense is slower but it rapes the phone's ram excessively. When ics is out benches should be done to see how this phone really performs, most of the 1 core is sleep anyway or not at max.
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One important thing:
When you score in multi-thread is just about 10 points above the single-thread score, it's because your second core (CPU1) didn't go online, or simply too late, so multi-thread was just using one core
Try this: with root explorer, go to sys/devices/system/CPU/CPU1/online
in this file replace 0 by one, then save. Immediatly set the permissions to read only (on "write" is ticked by default, untick it)
Now your both cores are always online, ready to scale up, and multi-thread scores will always be far superior to single-thread.
(it's not sticky, everything we go back as it was after a reboot)
Also my very best score with Linpak was 115, at 1.782ghz, CPU1 forced online, I posted a screenshot somewhere in Bricked kernel thread. This is a real battery drain and hot device to get this score
In real life, 90 or 95 at 1.5ghz is pretty good
i900frenchaddict said:
One important thing:
When you score in multi-thread is just about 10 points above the single-thread score, it's because your second core (CPU1) didn't go online, or simply too late, so multi-thread was just using one core
Try this: with root explorer, go to sys/devices/system/CPU/CPU1/online
in this file replace 0 by one, then save. Immediatly set the permissions to read only (on "write" is ticked by default, untick it)
Now your both cores are always online, ready to scale up, and multi-thread scores will always be far superior to single-thread.
(it's not sticky, everything we go back as it was after a reboot)
Also my very best score with Linpak was 115, at 1.782ghz, CPU1 forced online, I posted a screenshot somewhere in Bricked kernel thread. This is a real battery drain and hot device to get this score
In real life, 90 or 95 at 1.5ghz is pretty good
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Wow! Never knew about that, I just assumed that the second core's clocks were off or something. Thank you very much good sir!