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Just wondering if you anybody has still be able to get passed AT&T's "smartphone" higher data rate.
I have an LG non smart phone that I am thinking about using to purchase the unlimited messaging and data plan for $30. Then swapping my sim back to my fuze.
But I dont know if AT&T has gotten wise to this or not.
yep they seem to catch ya quick now ....we signed up 3 weeks ago and got the unlimited data plan with our 2 pantech impacts ..then i bought a fuze a week later
and within 3 hours of turning on the fuze the nailed me and changed me over to the 2gb smartphone plan ...so unless someone knows a way around this looks like att gets to screw us some more
or if someone can figure out how to block the imei ..cause i think thats how they can tell
Just my experience but yesterday I had to go to the AT&T store to put the $30 data plan on my HTC Fuze. What happened was I put my sim card in my first gen iPhone so it activated the $15 data then I put my card back in my Fuze so for the last two months I had an iPhone plan running on the fuze and they never said anything but after about a week I stopped getting 3G service so I guess as the saying goes you get what you pay for. If you want to, try it but beware if anyone does have the $30 unlimited data plan if you even switch it off for a second you can't get it back good thing was that the iphone was a smartphone with unlimited data.
Signed up with AT&T years ago. Been staying with them contract free because I get the $15 medianet internet.
From what Ive seen, if you never call or contact AT&T, you're fine.
I have a Fuze and a unlocked Telstra Diamond, both with $15 a month medianet on our family plan.
Never been contacted about a change, and have been running on these phones for well over a year. (and on my phone, I frequently go around 5-10gb a month of data). Before these, we had a treo 750, and a palm centro on the medianet plan, and before that a Treo 650.
The 750 and up have all been considered "smartphones" yet Ive never been forced to upgrade.
I should note that I have never bought a phone through AT&T and all of these have been unlocked phones bought on ebay, and just switched out the sim.
As always YMMV.
Yeah IDK. When I swap in my sim card to the LG, AT&T online changes my device. Then when I put my sim back into my Fuze, it will pretty much instantly change it back on the website. Even if I go in and manually change it, it will revert right back my Fuze.
I just think it is a rip off that smartphones get charged more for the exact same network access.
Hey guys, i have an inspire, i was wondering if i activitated an old att basic messaging phone unlimited data plan, would it work with my inspire? And would it provide me with the same speeds?
Thanks!
Yes it should. The only differences between the smartphones and feature phones are the data plans.
Isn't the inspire an AT&T branded phone? You're better off using the unlimited data plan (im assuming its $15/mo) on an unlocked, unbranded phone because AT&T already has the IMEI number for the inspire and when they do their daily sweeping and found out you're using a smartphone with an incompatible plan, you'll get a nice text from them.
when did that start?
had a palm pre+ on at&t with just the unlimtd text plan for 3months and they where aware of it.... nothing ever happened
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had a palm pre+ on at&t with just the unlimtd text plan for 3months and they where aware of it.... nothing ever happened
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Was it an unlocked/unbranded version? That would be a big reason why. But back to the OP, yes you will have to change your plan...once you pop your SIM in within 24-48 you will automatically be provisioned to one of the tiered data plans.
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when did that start?
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Started back in Nov '09
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Was it an unlocked/unbranded version? That would be a big reason why. But back to the OP, yes you will have to change your plan...once you pop your SIM in within 24-48 you will automatically be provisioned to one of the tiered data plans.
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nope.. it was locked to at&t while i was using it with them...
I had a Captivate with unlimited data ($30) and my wife had a TMo N1 on the dumbphone unlimited($10). They never caught on, I assumed because it was an unbranded phone.
When I traded Captivate for Inspire, I gave her my Captivate, fully expecting to get hit with the smartphone dataplan text message.
It has been over a week now, and she is still on the dumbphone unlimited plan. Don't know if I am just lucky, or At&t isn't being as harsh anymore.
EDIT: Running Supernova ROM on the captivate. Not sure if that is the reason it slipped under the radar.
Here is how to get it back it worked for me!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985869
Yea I had the $25 Unlimited Data/Unlimited Text plan which I've used for YEARS on unlocked phones. When I upgraded to the Inspire it lost my unlimited data and they opened a case to put it back on. Well I got the unlimited data back, but it's the $30 unlimited data plan, and they put the $20 unlimited text on it. So yes I got my umlimited data back, but for an additional $25/month.
Everytime you make a call, your sim transmits an IMSI number that identifies the phone type and the the sim, so that AT$T knows what number you are calling from and that your account is current.
Most of the cell/data plans are priced so that AT$T can make their money back from subsidizing the phones. I paid $49.99 for my Inspire, AT$T doesn't just " eat " the remainder of the $600 that these phones cost unlocked.
So if you bought it subsidized by AT$T, you are stuck with the data contract for 2 years, or you can buy out your contract for the full cost of the phone.
If you bought your phone unlocked AT&T does not require a data plan because they have no money to make up. After my contact expired last Sept, I used my Tilt , with an old sim I had from a " disposable " flip phone that I had. While my online AT$T account and my bills immediately recognized it as a Tilt, they never required a data plan and I just used wifi for all my data usage.
Well i had a pure i bought last march, i got it on att's online site, i got it in the mail, and i still had my razr, i activated a 10 dollar data unlimited for basic messaging phones, since i have a family plan with unlimited messaging for families, then a few hours later i popped the sim into my pure, it worked like a dream until i got a new phone which i needed the blackberry plan!
But it wasnt a problem for me!
Im gonna try it tomorrow, and ill let yall know!
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Not sure if this is what you mean?
I had a ATT Tilt on just a voice only plan for several years until I just bought the Inspire brand new and they never charged me for anything more than just the voice and I only used wifi for internet.
Hey guys,
I'm on ATT, and I was thinking about picking up an SGS2 soon. I was wondering, since my folks never use their upgrades (in a family account of 4), is it possible to upgrade their line, but never use the new sim card and instead use the phone for myself? Has anyone tried this that could possibly share their experience, and give a quick how-to?
Thanks.
If you go into the att store and just say you want to use their upgrade on your line they will do it no problem. As long as you are the primary account holder.
If you are doing it third party, or online you can upgrade their line with the new phone (activate required data plan if applicable) then put your sim card in the phone. You can deactivate the data plan on the other line whenever you want. You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision.
I just went through this recently.
P.S. Do yourself a favor and get the original Galaxy S II (i777) instead of the skyrocket ... you'll thank me later.
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I believe number is attached to sim. Just pop your sim in and good to go. Just ask ATT, its not illegal to switch phones
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If you go into the att store and just say you want to use their upgrade on your line they will do it no problem. As long as you are the primary account holder.
If you are doing it third party, or online you can upgrade their line with the new phone (activate required data plan if applicable) then put your sim card in the phone. You can deactivate the data plan on the other line whenever you want. You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision.
I just went through this recently.
P.S. Do yourself a favor and get the original Galaxy S II (i777) instead of the skyrocket ... you'll thank me later.
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Thanks so much! And I was definitely going for the i777; dev support is flourishing there.
"You will need to call att to have them change your data from 3G to Faux G, but you will keep the same plan (cost and limit, even unlimited), it you won't get data on the GS II with the "3G" data provision."
I'm not sure what you mean here. So when I put MY sim into the SGS 2, I should call att about my line, and have them change whatever you said?
I have an unlimited data plan - I was planning on just taking the newly bought SGS2 to the ATT store and have them transfer my unlimited plan to it. Would this work? What other options do I have to keep my unlimited plan?
Yeah they can do it in store, or call. Just tell them you got a sgs II and the data doesn't work, because it won't. They have to "provision" your line for 4G/HSPA+ data instead of 3G. You can still keep unlimited for $30. It shows up on your bill differently, you will see two pro-rated data plans with different names, but it will still total $30.
It will be easiest in store, as you can verify it works before you leave, but the phone reps can do it too.
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Just tell them you want to cross-upgrade. They will set it all up for you. If you do it from a retailer (Costco, Bestbuy...), they will set up the upgraded line and then you will call AT&T after to cancel the data plan associated with the upgrade and switch the IMEI to your line - since they need to change the data plan to the 4g variant.
When you put your current sim in the SGSII, network will work but data won't. That's because the data plan on the Captivate isn't compatible with the SGSII. I found that out last week
Careful though as some places like Amazon require you to sign a contract with them as well stating that if you cancel any part of the plan or use the phone on another line, they hit you with early term fees (I think it's just Amazon actually).
Oh yeah, and the SGSII is an awesome phone!
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Just tell them you want to cross-upgrade. They will set it all up for you. If you do it from a retailer (Costco, Bestbuy...), they will set up the upgraded line and then you will call AT&T after to cancel the data plan associated with the upgrade and switch the IMEI to your line - since they need to change the data plan to the 4g variant.
When you put your current sim in the SGSII, network will work but data won't. That's because the data plan on the Captivate isn't compatible with the SGSII. I found that out last week
Careful though as some places like Amazon require you to sign a contract with them as well stating that if you cancel any part of the plan or use the phone on another line, they hit you with early term fees (I think it's just Amazon actually).
Oh yeah, and the SGSII is an awesome phone!
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Yeah I figure Amazon and Wirefly are off limits for this. They require the line to stay with the data plan for 3-6 months, depending on the retailer.
Thanks for your help!
Grea thread ! Some more explanation..please
Ok. I am not fully understanding this great switcheroo.
Wont you still have the other non-SGSII still active and paying for it in the family plan.
Can someone please explain how this goes step-by-step? I mean what if I am not yet eligible for an upgrade, can I just add a SGSII line this way, and turn off the other phone>>>??
Step-by-step.......puhlesaseeeeee!
EDIT: Hmmmmmmmmmm......after re-reading it looks it means you have to be eligible for an upgrade to do this? So since I do not have an upgrade option I am just getting excited for nothing ????
You can add a line for a new phone, such as SGS II, and then use that phone for your line. But, you cannot cancel your existing line until the contract ends, which would be ~3 months after you are eligible for an upgrade. You can cancel the dataplan you are forced to add if you add another line, but you are stuck paying $9.99 + taxes and fees, a month for that line for 24 months. So it adds up costing $250+ over the next 2 years.
You can call and try to talk your way into a early upgrade. If you are nice, and mention considering ending your service they may let you upgrade early for new price plus $30. Several others have said that worked for them. But, it may depend on how close you are to an upgrade. If you got a new phone 6 months ago you may be stuck for a while.
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You can add a line for a new phone, such as SGS II, and then use that phone for your line. But, you cannot cancel your existing line until the contract ends, which would be ~3 months after you are eligible for an upgrade. You can cancel the dataplan you are forced to add if you add another line, but you are stuck paying $9.99 + taxes and fees, a month for that line for 24 months. So it adds up costing $250+ over the next 2 years.
You can call and try to talk your way into a early upgrade. If you are nice, and mention considering ending your service they may let you upgrade early for new price plus $30. Several others have said that worked for them. But, it may depend on how close you are to an upgrade. If you got a new phone 6 months ago you may be stuck for a while.
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Thanks quarlow..........I hit the button !
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Thanks quarlow..........I hit the button !
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YW
I hope you find a way to get your new phone.
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I did this with an iPhone 4S (my upgrade's not up until this spring, the contract outlasted my patience with the Samsuck Craptivate). If you go to a CORPORATE AT&T store, it's no big deal to do. The lady there handled the whole thing for me and I was up and running in no time...
Alright, so I went ahead and got the SGS 2 from Radioshack because they had a 50 dollar deal for Black Friday. I looked at the receipt though, and it says that "If the Device and its wireless service agreement are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the Device is not returned to the Retailer, I agree that the Retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the Device's Non Activated Price minus the activated price I paid".
I bought it with no sim card for my mom's line. I have the primary line, and I was wondering if it's still okay for my to just insert my sim in the phone to use (would I be charged the above stated fee?). The phone hasn't had any sim card put it in yet at all. Is there any way to get around this? Does anyone have any experience with upgrading like this through Radioshack?
EDIT: Just talked to an ATT rep and he told me that I would not incur any fees/charges for switching equipment, and proceeded to do so for me. I'm still sort of anxious though, don't want to be charged a ridiculous amount for doing this. I saved the chat as a PDF (talked to an online rep) just in case. Anyone want to chime in with an opinion of what I should do?
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Alright, so I went ahead and got the SGS 2 from Radioshack because they had a 50 dollar deal for Black Friday. I looked at the receipt though, and it says that "If the Device and its wireless service agreement are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the Device is not returned to the Retailer, I agree that the Retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the Device's Non Activated Price minus the activated price I paid".
I bought it with no sim card for my mom's line. I have the primary line, and I was wondering if it's still okay for my to just insert my sim in the phone to use (would I be charged the above stated fee?). The phone hasn't had any sim card put it in yet at all. Is there any way to get around this? Does anyone have any experience with upgrading like this through Radioshack?
EDIT: Just talked to an ATT rep and he told me that I would not incur any fees/charges for switching equipment, and proceeded to do so for me. I'm still sort of anxious though, don't want to be charged a ridiculous amount for doing this. I saved the chat as a PDF (talked to an online rep) just in case. Anyone want to chime in with an opinion of what I should do?
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They are just trying to prevent you from using your upgrade to get a new phone, then immediately terminating the contract and selling the phone. As long as you are actually using it on your plan, you're all good.
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They are just trying to prevent you from using your upgrade to get a new phone, then immediately terminating the contract and selling the phone. As long as you are actually using it on your plan, you're all good.
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Careful, some stores (Amazon) will charge you an early term fee if you move the phone to another line within 6 months.
I thought of a few ways to upgrade while keeping unlimited data.
There was..
Add a new line, with the GS3, give that phone to the unlimited data, and then put a basic phone on that line so it doesn't require the data fees...
There's buy a used cracked screen on eBay, replace the cracked screen with a replacement on eBay..
Any ideas anyone?
I would suggest against buying any used phone, especially for verizon phones, only because of the risk that if the person selling it has any remaining balance on that account that the phone was tied to, it would be useless for you and by law Verizon will be unable to add it to your phone line. If you can confirm that it in fact has no left over balance, then this is probably the best way to go.
Better off going with the plan of adding a line with a basic phone and switching the two numbers, but that will cost you another 40$ every bill and verizon will probably still make you pay an arm and a leg for the SGS III essentially at full retail price if you really want to keep that unlimited data plan. So you might as well just pay full price for the phone and then just switch your number to it in order to keep the unlimited data plan.
Hope this helps.
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Better off going with the plan of adding a line with a basic phone and switching the two numbers, but that will cost you another 40$ every bill and verizon will probably still make you pay an arm and a leg for the SGS III essentially at full retail price if you really want to keep that unlimited data plan. So you might as well just pay full price for the phone and then just switch your number to it in order to keep the unlimited data plan.
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If I get the GS3 on the extra line and I switch a basic phone onto it, wouldn't it be just 10 dollars a month?
That's basically what I did to keep my unlimited data. Added a line for the GS3, switched it to my line with unlimited data and activated a basic phone I had lying around onto the new line.
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That's basically what I did to keep my unlimited data. Added a line for the GS3, switched it to my line with unlimited data and activated a basic phone I had lying around onto the new line.
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How much a month is it for that line? 10 dollars?
Well I have 2 lines that had an upgrade on the same day. Mine had unlimited data, and the other one was my moms who had no data at all. So what we did was use my upgrade to upgrade her line to a sgs3 with 2gb of data a month , then put that phone on my line and put the basic phone back on her line. Then she upgraded with her updrage to a sgs3 for herself
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That's basically what I did to keep my unlimited data. Added a line for the GS3, switched it to my line with unlimited data and activated a basic phone I had lying around onto the new line.
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This is what I did as well. Added $10/month to my bill.
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I would suggest against buying any used phone, especially for verizon phones, only because of the risk that if the person selling it has any remaining balance on that account that the phone was tied to, it would be useless for you and by law Verizon will be unable to add it to your phone line. If you can confirm that it in fact has no left over balance, then this is probably the best way to go.
Better off going with the plan of adding a line with a basic phone and switching the two numbers, but that will cost you another 40$ every bill and verizon will probably still make you pay an arm and a leg for the SGS III essentially at full retail price if you really want to keep that unlimited data plan. So you might as well just pay full price for the phone and then just switch your number to it in order to keep the unlimited data plan.
Hope this helps.
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I have a question about this. Does the new use of a SIM card change what you're saying about left over fees owed to Verizon? If a person were to buy a phone from Ebay and put their own SIM in would that be Ok even if the original owner owed money on their SIM?
All I did was order online. I originally went into the store to upgrade, but they told me I had to get a new data plan. I went home and ordered the GS3 online that night and it let me keep my unlimited plan. They probably fixed that glitch by now though.
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I have a question about this. Does the new use of a SIM card change what you're saying about left over fees owed to Verizon? If a person were to buy a phone from Ebay and put their own SIM in would that be Ok even if the original owner owed money on their SIM?
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With the new SIM card system that Verizon has started to use, I am not quite sure about that, but when reading past experiences, and one that my cousin had to go through, they all bought used phones from online sites like ebay and amazon, but ended up being unable to apply them to their own plans because of a check that was done on the phone's background. (I know there is a way to do this yourself, but you pretty much have to have the phone in your possession in order to do so.)
When my family had to add a new line to our family plan for my little brother, a basic phone, verizon wanted to charge us $40, and instead we got him a smartphone which was only $30. Verizon is really pushing smartphones, primarily android devices and especially the SGS3. Essentially what they tried to sell us, but we told them no lol.
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With the new SIM card system that Verizon has started to use, I am not quite sure about that, but when reading past experiences, and one that my cousin had to go through, they all bought used phones from online sites like ebay and amazon, but ended up being unable to apply them to their own plans because of a check that was done on the phone's background. (I know there is a way to do this yourself, but you pretty much have to have the phone in your possession in order to do so.)
When my family had to add a new line to our family plan for my little brother, a basic phone, verizon wanted to charge us $40, and instead we got him a smartphone which was only $30. Verizon is really pushing smartphones, primarily android devices and especially the SGS3. Essentially what they tried to sell us, but we told them no lol.
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I got my SGS3 from someone that had left over fees and it didn't effect me at all. I think the SIM card system has made this a thing of the past.
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I got my SGS3 from someone that had left over fees and it didn't effect me at all. I think the SIM card system has made this a thing of the past.
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Awesome , then i guess the op is good to go and buy the one off ebay and replace the screen.
Thanks for all the input guys! Much appreciated.
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Dude, all u have to do is calling Verizon & give them the imei or serial, they will tell u if the fone legit. Bought mine used but looks like new.
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Dude, all u have to do is calling Verizon & give them the imei or serial, they will tell u if the fone legit. Bought mine used but looks like new.
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yep or you can use one of the following online service to check the IMEI/MEID, Verizon's is the more accurate one, if it says call customer service then the IMEI is bad:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
http://www.checkesnfree.com/
I upgraded a flip phone line on my plan to the SG3 and gave it 2gb data temporarily. I then had them switch the SG3 to my number, re-enable the flip phone on the upgraded line, and then cancel the 2gb data plan, reverting it back to $10 nondata plan. Verizon will not charge for a data plan that is changed within 24 hours. Worked for me anyhow, but did have to pay the $30 upgrade fee.
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With the new SIM card system that Verizon has started to use, I am not quite sure about that, but when reading past experiences, and one that my cousin had to go through, they all bought used phones from online sites like ebay and amazon, but ended up being unable to apply them to their own plans because of a check that was done on the phone's background. (I know there is a way to do this yourself, but you pretty much have to have the phone in your possession in order to do so.)
When my family had to add a new line to our family plan for my little brother, a basic phone, verizon wanted to charge us $40, and instead we got him a smartphone which was only $30. Verizon is really pushing smartphones, primarily android devices and especially the SGS3. Essentially what they tried to sell us, but we told them no lol.
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Yeah.....
I don't think so.
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Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
If you're in the US, just get an S6 at Best Buy and either get a BB credit card or use their payment plan to get it off contract. It's basically the same as getting the edge contract and you get to keep your unlimted data.
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Yes. I continue to bring my own phone so I'm considered month to month. Therefore I get a $25 discount.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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I think I've read through that entire thread like 5 times, so much good info in there.
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WOW!!!
Thank you!
deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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docluv01 said:
Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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chrisj22 said:
Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
deranger said:
It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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chrisj22 said:
Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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You're not reading the thread at all. If you turn on the phone with the SIM from Best Buy in it, you will instantly lose UDP and not be able to get it back. You MUST destroy the new SIM before you initially power on the phone (even initial charging) when doing this method of getting a subsidized upgrade without losing your unlimited data. If the phone comes on at all, Verizon reads the new SIM as being activated, and your unlimited data is gone forever . It is crucial to take out and destroy the new SIM ASAP.
Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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I believe you can, but it would be easier to walk into a Verizon corporate store and get it there for free on the spot. Did it a couple weeks ago no issue coming from an s5.
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Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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Sure, but why not do the BB method and get it at subsidized pricing? You also get the benefit of being on contract, which means if they kill your UDP (which they are free to do at any time), they will have to let you out of the early termination fee. You could also walk into a VZW corporate store and buy an S6 at full price to keep your unlimited, but be aware that VZW has the right to kill your UDP at any time should they feel the need to do so.
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Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
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To be able to cut down your SIM for the S6, you must currently have a 4G LTE SIM. I personally never owned an S3 so I am not sure if you have a 4G LTE SIM in it or not. If you do, simply do the BB method and trim your SIM. If not, there are methods to get around this, check the thread I linked earlier.
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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When you buy the phone full retail and go to put it on your line using my Verizon, one step in the process will say your sim is not compatible/or it'll ask you if you want to order a new sim card. Simply click I want a new sim card and within 2 days a new nano sim card will be at your door.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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I think I was not clear and I am sorry about that. Your contract end date and what is actually guaranteed by that contract are 2 different things. Look at the actual contract terms. Yes, you can be in a contract with UDP in today's world on verizon, that happens with the example I gave above. The contract you are signing is an extension of service. If done the way in my example, the line its activated on (The line you transferred your upgrade to, line B) will get a data extension contract while the line that transferred the upgrade (line A) will get a service use extension (yes there are now 2 types of contracts). This was changed last September I believe so that if someone tried to transfer their upgrade to a non smartphone line, use the upgrade, then transfer the phone back over to their line, the data plan would stick to the line it was activated on when in the past it would just drop off.
You are correct, you did extend your contract, but that UDP feature is listed nowhere on the actual documents you signed thus changing/removing or doing whatever Verizon wants to do is in no way a violation of your extended service. they are still providing you the service you signed up for. I am not sure when the last time you could actually sign up for unlimited data was using their plan system, but that was definitely more than 3 years ago. I am unsure how these upgrades are processed via best buy and what their contract term sheets look like when printed out, so I can't comment on that process. I have seen Verizon's and seen people who extended their contract and nowhere on that printout is unlimited data listed as being guaranteed for the contract, but it did list the 2GB plan or w/e plan was picked on it. The reason Verizon is not touching this for now is because of the bad press they got previously when trying to modify the unlimited accounts and add throttling. I am sure within the next couple of years though, all unlimited plans will be forced out. It will suck to lose it and its at that time maybe i'll give t-mobile a try.
Also, requesting the sim in the method I put above will in no way effect his UDP. It sends you a nano sim card so you do not have to cut with the current features that are on your account. Yes if you cut your sim card you won't get any incompatible messages because you are not trying to activate the phone through the my Verizon feature. That will only come up when going through and trying activate/change the phone on your account using their website.