Cockwork .8 vs new - G Tablet General

I have been reading lots of posts about issue with each but cannot seem to get a good read on which one is the most stable with this tab.
Opinions please.

LTL11 said:
I have been reading lots of posts about issue with each but cannot seem to get a good read on which one is the most stable with this tab.
Opinions please.
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i haven't tried the new one but .8 is still working great for me, no need to fix what isn't broken so i'm not messing with it. this is one of those times when the ability to edit the title would come in handy ;D thanks for the laugh teehee

Dang! What a thread title

rushless said:
Dang! What a thread title
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i giggle everytime i see it...

Crimton said:
i haven't tried the new one but .8 is still working great for me, no need to fix what isn't broken so i'm not messing with it. this is one of those times when the ability to edit the title would come in handy ;D thanks for the laugh teehee
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LOL!
Too funny. Thanks for the input as well.

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Better watch out, the Forum Moderator is gonna ban this thread! ;P

Just a heads up but do not flash cockwork mod on your gtab as it will SCREW it up.
Sorry, couldnt resist.

I don't think there is any stability difference. The difference is in how they see the memory map. Clockwork 8 is mapped to see the internal SD, and the newest Clockwork is mapped to see the memory the way CM6B4 has it mapped.
For example.. If you put a file on your internal SD Clockwork 8 will see it, and the new 12 version won't. It will expect to see it on the external card. Unless you use the CM6B4 rom I think version 8 is the way to go.

Sprdtyf350 said:
I don't think there is any stability difference. The difference is in how they see the memory map. Clockwork 8 is mapped to see the internal SD, and the newest Clockwork is mapped to see the memory the way CM6B4 has it mapped.
For example.. If you put a file on your internal SD Clockwork 8 will see it, and the new 12 version won't. It will expect to see it on the external card. Unless you use the CM6B4 rom I think version 8 is the way to go.
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Will .8 see it on both or just internal?

LTL11 said:
Will .8 see it on both or just internal?
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I may be wrong but I don't think either one will see external, and internal. One or the other depending on which Clockwork you are using. If you need to load something while in recovery you can mount USB storage from the mounts and storage menu and then use your PC to move it to the tablet SD.

Sprdtyf350 said:
I don't think there is any stability difference. The difference is in how they see the memory map. Clockwork 8 is mapped to see the internal SD, and the newest Clockwork is mapped to see the memory the way CM6B4 has it mapped.
For example.. If you put a file on your internal SD Clockwork 8 will see it, and the new 12 version won't. It will expect to see it on the external card. Unless you use the CM6B4 rom I think version 8 is the way to go.
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Does that mean the space on the internal SD would be wasted then if the system partition doesn't take up the 16 GB. The factory default partition was 2 GB, does that mean the 14GB would be wasted and inaccessible?

y the lies?
on clockwork 8 yes u can see both internal and external sdcard

LRiley said:
on clockwork 8 yes u can see both internal and external sdcard
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I don't know who you are calling a liar, or why. If I say something that is wrong, which is entirely possible because I don't know everything then say so. But don't call people a liar. If you know the answer then say so.... I don't see a way to do it..

Sprdtyf350 said:
I don't know who you are calling a liar, or why. If I say something that is wrong, which is entirely possible because I don't know everything then say so. But don't call people a liar. If you know the answer then say so.... I don't see a way to do it..
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I didn't mention liar at all just put lies as title but there is no anger there...
when I put my sd card in the slot it just loads up if that doesn't work for u try rebooting with the card in the slot

LRiley said:
I didn't mention liar at all just put lies as title but there is no anger there...
when I put my sd card in the slot it just loads up if that doesn't work for u try rebooting with the card in the slot
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With which clockwork version? 8 looks at the internal, the other one looks external. They were made for different roms that had different memory mapping. Can you go into clockwork and try to install a zip from sd card and pick between the external, and internal? If you can then let me know how...

dkhilo said:
Does that mean the space on the internal SD would be wasted then if the system partition doesn't take up the 16 GB. The factory default partition was 2 GB, does that mean the 14GB would be wasted and inaccessible?
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My understanding is that you start with 16gb. 2gb of that is used to install programs, and can be changed in clockwork up to 4gb. The remainder is used for data storage. It is all coming from the same original 16gb. The data storage portion inside the tablet is what clockwork 8 sees. Anything you put on your tablet like music, video etc is located on that data storage portion and is what you are looking at in the file manager program when it says sd card. Internal SD card is kind of a confusing term and the latest Viewsonic update changed the naming in the settings menu but sd card is the internal data storage, and sd2 is the removable sd card. At least in TnT
There have been so many changes over the month that it can get confusing sometimes. If you say something you have to be careful because that may be wrong for another rom. They all make your tablet go, but aren't the same everywhere.

Sprdtyf350 said:
With which clockwork version? 8 looks at the internal, the other one looks external. They were made for different roms that had different memory mapping. Can you go into clockwork and try to install a zip from sd card and pick between the external, and internal? If you can then let me know how...
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no u can't see both in clockwork menu

So correct me if I am wrong but using the new version would be better in case you get into a boot loop and need to restore or flash something else as .8 CW would not be able to see the internal to flash the new Rom.
Right?

LTL11 said:
So correct me if I am wrong but using the new version would be better in case you get into a boot loop and need to restore or flash something else as .8 CW would not be able to see the internal to flash the new Rom.
Right?
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.8 does see internal in clockwork menu

LRiley said:
.8 does see internal in clockwork menu
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I understand that it sees internal. What I am getting at is if I go into a boot loop for some reason I no longer have access to my internal so if I needed to add a ROM to flash and recover I could not add it to anything but my external SDcard.
So it would be better to have the new clockwork on there.
correct?

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How to make External micro sd card primary?

Ok I just bought a 32gb micro sd card.. and I put it in my phone..
how do i make that the primary card that everything gets downloaded it will go there...
because as of right now, I cant even move my games or apps to the external sd card.
You cant.
I'd guess it wouldn't be possible without any custom scripting, similar to apps2sd.
Why would you want to move your games/apps to the sd card?
If you go to "Manage Applications" most apps can be moved to SD card.
Joe333x said:
If you go to "Manage Applications" most apps can be moved to SD card.
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But only to the internal SD card, not the removable one.
as long as your rooted. I use root explorer and cut and past to my 32 gb ext card. Its easy with a file program as this. Until someone writes an APPTOExSD its the only way to make it happen. I know it sucks.
OrganizedFellow said:
You cant.
I'd guess it wouldn't be possible without any custom scripting, similar to apps2sd.
Why would you want to move your games/apps to the sd card?
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Because my internal phone memory is only 1.3 GB
You could run the CyanogenMod custom ROM. That points /sdcard to the microSD and /emmc to the internal memory. Warning, you have to load it on to your phone and you need to install a custom recovery. If that means nothing to you then I advise you read the development forum for a while before attempting anything. If, on the other hand, you know what I'm talking about then you should already know that it's a nightly build, not stable with no ETA of stability. That said, I've been running it for a few weeks now.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058131 for details on the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
Crisisx1 said:
Because my internal phone memory is only 1.3 GB
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enter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
Crisisx1 said:
Ok I just bought a 32gb micro sd card.. and I put it in my phone..
how do i make that the primary card that everything gets downloaded it will go there...
because as of right now, I cant even move my games or apps to the external sd card.
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Try looking at an app call GL to SD.
Works on my tablet to move gigs of data to external, and the app will still open the apps.
Its like a temporary mount swap.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
OrganizedFellow said:
You cant.
I'd guess it wouldn't be possible without any custom scripting, similar to apps2sd.
Why would you want to move your games/apps to the sd card?
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[Q] G2X, cant mount sdcard on cm7

Hi,
I have a g2x and i recently rooted it using superoneclick and i tried to back up using nvflash
however when i boot into recovery and try to install a zip or do anything with an sdcard, it says cant mount sdcard.
i ended up installing cyanogenmod 7 using rom manager.
but at the moment i cant do anything that involves using the sdcard because it cant mount.
any ideas on how to fix this?
thanks in advance
When you're in recovery, have you simply tried taking out the memory card then putting it back in?
Sometimes the simplest solutions work. It used to not mount my sd card too and just popping it out and back in made it read it.
buru898 said:
When you're in recovery, have you simply tried taking out the memory card then putting it back in?
Sometimes the simplest solutions work. It used to not mount my sd card too and just popping it out and back in made it read it.
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Thanks ill try it and let you know but how come nothing ever gets loaded onto the phones internal sdcard I still have the 5 gigs that I initially had and nothing is ever loaded onto it including the apps I download, any way I can change this?
EgyptianBoi said:
Thanks ill try it and let you know but how come nothing ever gets loaded onto the phones internal sdcard I still have the 5 gigs that I initially had and nothing is ever loaded onto it including the apps I download, any way I can change this?
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It's the way they memory is partitioned. ~3 GB for the System and Apps, 5GB for other stuff. There's a workaround/fix for CM7 in the development forum (atleast I think there was) but I don't know if it works anymore.
Jufjufjuf said:
It's the way they memory is partitioned. ~3 GB for the System and Apps, 5GB for other stuff. There's a workaround/fix for CM7 in the development forum (atleast I think there was) but I don't know if it works anymore.
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Right now if I go to storage in settings I have my SD card then I have internal storage with 1.48 gigs and then I have additional storage /mnt/emmc which has 5.21 gigs. At the moment apps installed from the android market go to the internal storage and apps online go to the SD card but I can move them to the internal memory. It seems that at the moment the one place with the most memory can't be used so I'm guessing thats the partition your talking about
o there's no way of changing this partition?
And can you give me the link to that? Thanks
Yaay got the SD card working in recovery it worked taking it out and putting it in again
EgyptianBoi said:
Right now if I go to storage in settings I have my SD card then I have internal storage with 1.48 gigs and then I have additional storage /mnt/emmc which has 5.21 gigs. At the moment apps installed from the android market go to the internal storage and apps online go to the SD card but I can move them to the internal memory. It seems that at the moment the one place with the most memory can't be used so I'm guessing thats the partition your talking about
o there's no way of changing this partition?
And can you give me the link to that? Thanks
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You're right, I don't believe it can be used (natively for apps atleast, you can always move media and files there). Unless you mount that internal partition to be the external SD card and do a Move to SD on the apps (both are settings in Android/CM7 somewhere) there's not much else you can do. The problem is that some apps don't work on the SD, of course you could keep those on the system partition.
Sorry if my replies are starting to get confusing, it's late here.
I use link2sd which creates a mount point script that uses the extra partition on external sdcard. I used minitool partitioned to create a 10gb ext4 on my 32gb class 10( I'm an app junkie lol). Most if not all apps/games moved with link2sd work flawlessly, I'm happy with it
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Jufjufjuf said:
You're right, I don't believe it can be used (natively for apps atleast, you can always move media and files there). Unless you mount that internal partition to be the external SD card and do a Move to SD on the apps (both are settings in Android/CM7 somewhere) there's not much else you can do. The problem is that some apps don't work on the SD, of course you could keep those on the system partition.
Sorry if my replies are starting to get confusing, it's late here.
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thanks i think i managed to get it! i found the settings i think you're talking about in the cyanogenmod settings and managed to switch the sdcard and additional storage. now the 5 gigs appears as the sdcard and the actual external microsd appears as the additional storage
i guess thats the best im gonna get
thanks a lot!!
d12unk13astard said:
I use link2sd which creates a mount point script that uses the extra partition on external sdcard. I used minitool partitioned to create a 10gb ext4 on my 32gb class 10( I'm an app junkie lol). Most if not all apps/games moved with link2sd work flawlessly, I'm happy with it
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thanks ill try it and see how it workds
d12unk13astard said:
I use link2sd which creates a mount point script that uses the extra partition on external sdcard. I used minitool partitioned to create a 10gb ext4 on my 32gb class 10( I'm an app junkie lol). Most if not all apps/games moved with link2sd work flawlessly, I'm happy with it
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Jufjufjuf said:
You're right, I don't believe it can be used (natively for apps atleast, you can always move media and files there). Unless you mount that internal partition to be the external SD card and do a Move to SD on the apps (both are settings in Android/CM7 somewhere) there's not much else you can do. The problem is that some apps don't work on the SD, of course you could keep those on the system partition.
Sorry if my replies are starting to get confusing, it's late here.
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ya i thought i had everything working but now for some reason, my phone says it cant mount the system. any ideas why?

only 200M left in internal phone memory

I was wondering the best way to clean this up. I have no internal space left. thanks
rosevilletoyota said:
I was wondering the best way to clean this up. I have no internal space left. thanks
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Did you already move your larger apps to your SD card?
I have a crapload of apps and I still have 900mb of internal. cant imagine what you've got going on lol..
regP said:
I have a crapload of apps and I still have 900mb of internal. cant imagine what you've got going on lol..
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How much is a crapload in ur eyes?
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Just buy a class 10 memory card and move apps to that card.
Because it is class 10 the transfer rate of files will be much faster
rosevilletoyota said:
I was wondering the best way to clean this up. I have no internal space left. thanks
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Had the same issue. I am assuming you are familiar with titanium backup for apps and you know how to make a nandroid backup of your current setup from cwm.
Use the batch feature in titanium and backup your user apps to your SD card. Remove your sd card. Then boot into recovery and format everything including emmc. This applies to 2.3 Roms only. Plug in your sd card complete with the rom you want to use. Reinstall your favorite 2.3 based rom and restore your user apps.
If you need help, let me know. I hope you find this helpful.

partitioning internal sd

hey everyone. so if i partition the internal sd card what exactly am i doing? from what i understand, the g2x has 8gb onboard, 1.5 of that is for apps, and 5 goes to user data. the rest i assume is for android?
so if i create a 2gb partition on the internal sd, what am i changing and what does it do to the rest of the space? do i need to create the other partitions in windows later and format them?
168 views and no replies? anyone??
Ok, let me try to explain this one...
In three words, Don't Do It!!!
Your internal sd card is pretty much just that, it's a storage card built onto the phone itself. Now it is already partitioned, and allot!
Not only does this one physical card hold your "internal sd card" contents but it also holds your ROM, cache, all your apps, and even your recovery!
Even though it looks like these are separate drives they are all one physical card, your internal sd card.
Now if you try to add to this mix of partitions on this internal card you run the VERY HIGH risk of messing up the lines and sizes of these partitions. Many things in Android assume that some of these are a certain size or at a certain place, and if you mess with it all hell brakes lose!
Now people sometimes partition the external sd card because they want 2 different file types, like half fat32 (like a normal sd card) and half ext4/3 for apps it use in Linux.
Hope this helps!!!
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ok, well then i guess my question is more along the lines of why do we have that option in CWM Recovery and if i create a 2gb partition what happens? does it change the default 1.5gb partition so you have more room for apps?
dodgefan67 said:
ok, well then i guess my question is more along the lines of why do we have that option in CWM Recovery and if i create a 2gb partition what happens? does it change the default 1.5gb partition so you have more room for apps?
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I'm honestly not sure, I've only ever messed with these partitions manually when unbricking my phone. So if you do it, you have a fairly good chance of bricking the phone, but i don't know how Android will react.
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thanks, i was just curious, since CWM gives us the option, but ive never done it and until i can find a good reason to i probably won't even mess with it
but it just seems kind of bad having 5gb on the internal card going to waste, i have backups to my external sd, all my data is there too, so i probably won't even touch that 5gb...
Just be glad it's not the other way around
Ill take too much space over not enough any day!
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well true, but still would like to know exactly what happens if you choose to run that in CWM Recovery
seek and ye shall find
found a guide for CWM and from what i see that option puts a partition on your external sd card so it can be used to install apps on IF the rom supports that. it says it does wipe everything else off the card though so you need to make a backup. you can also put a swap partition on it as well
looks like it does not touch the internal sd card phone memory which is what i thought it did
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/

Can't flash zip from external sd card

On latest CMR. This has never been a problem. Bought a new sd card. Card works perfectly. Went to flash an update and have error saying can't read external sd card. Reformat. Remounted. Still no luck.
It's a 64gb.
Any one have a solution or had a similar problem?
Try TWRP... ****ty solution, but worth a try.
Lol yeah, thanks for the response though.
I would try it, but since I already moved all my files off and on after reformat I feel like I wasted too much time with this already.
I can still flash from internal card, and my external sd card works perfectly otherwise so it really doesn't make a difference.
I guess we can all just make note that a reformat doesn't work in this situation so it can save some people trouble and time.
ac29593 said:
Lol yeah, thanks for the response though.
I would try it, but since I already moved all my files off and on after reformat I feel like I wasted too much time with this already.
I can still flash from internal card, and my external sd card works perfectly otherwise so it really doesn't make a difference.
I guess we can all just make note that a reformat doesn't work in this situation so it can save some people trouble and time.
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Must be formated to Fat32 for any recovery to see it. It comes formatted ExtFat.
prdog1 said:
Must be formated to Fat32 for any recovery to see it. It comes formatted ExtFat.
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Nice, thanks!
How can I tell what the card is formatted to? Any reason not to leave it the way it is?
ac29593 said:
Nice, thanks!
How can I tell what the card is formatted to? Any reason not to leave it the way it is?
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Haha the above scenario is why you likely don't want to leave it as is. No recovery will see your external sd card if it's formatted to exfat. So, you'll have to use your internal storage to flash roms if you don't have it formatted to Fat32.
You can check the format by plugging your external sd card into a computer right clicking the drive and pressing "Format" (don't worry a second window opens) or I think you can also see it by selecting "Properties."
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would it have a lock on the card its self not in the memory?
willy221387 said:
would it have a lock on the card its self not in the memory?
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What does this mean?
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