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[FIX] use Apps2SD hack or Link2SD to solve the storage space problem in SGS4G

Some of you might now this well, if you had been through the older generation of the phones with very low internal storage space.
Apps2SD Script, Link2SD, and ... another lesser known flavor of App2SD have been used and still in use for a long time to make External SD cards as extended internal memory.
of course you'll need at least a Class 6 of better microSD to not feel the lag.
The great thing is the SGS4G as all its brothers/cousins models comes with its own 14 GB ~ 15 GB of internal storage space (SD card)
so when you use Apps2SD hard link script, or better yet Link2SD then it will by default use the Internal SD card as the memory extension
and you can still use the External SD to transfer stuff.
so even when you remove the External SD you wont disable the internal apps that are running.
the only IMPORTANT Rule to remember when you use this setup is to NOT USE the stock MOUNT USB
instead use the MULTI USB MOUNT or DUAL MOUNT both found in the android market.
that will prevent the Internal SD from being mounted as well, and causing the phone to reboot

[REF]
Link2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
more details here to use ext3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923628
the good ol' Apps2SD hack before Froyo was even born
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742126&highlight=apps2sd
Dual Mount SD Widget
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.protocol.x.USB&feature=search_result
Multi Mount SD-Card Free
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rafoid.multimountsdcard.widget.free&feature=search_result

AllGamer said:
so when you use Apps2SD hard link script, or better yet Link2SD then it will by default use the Internal SD card as the memory extension
and you can still use the External SD to transfer stuff.
so even when you remove the External SD you wont disable the internal apps that are running.
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pardon my ignorance, i am getting confused by "internal" and "external" SD, I believe the "internal" is the one that comes with the phone, which one is the "external" one?

external SD = microSD
internal SD = 15 GB of internal space
internal Storage = 1 GB of full bloatware with only 180-ish MB usable space
you will not see external unless you stick in a 16GB or 32GB microSD into the phone

I am confused how this helps Galaxy S 4G users? The Galaxy S 4G lacks the 16gb internal SD, that is the issue. It only has 1gb internal memory of which only ~300 megs appear to be available for app install/storage out of the box. I understand you can install your apps on the external 16gb (included) SD Card but that has always been the case. What am I missing here?

Yeah, I'm missing something here too. The Vibrant has the internal storage of ~16mb while the gs4g does not...
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... wow im finding less and less of a reason to keep this phone ffs... i was told at the tmo store that it has 16g internal and thats not true. these sales reps need to learn there stuff

AllGamer said:
external SD = microSD
internal SD = 15 GB of internal space
internal Storage = 1 GB of full bloatware with only 180-ish MB usable space
you will not see external unless you stick in a 16GB or 32GB microSD into the phone
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Thanks for the help. Even though as dcam and Seanathan mentioned. This Galaxy S 4G phone doesn't come with the Internal SD space like it's brother's have.
If I run out of memory again for apps I will try this out. I manually did the "Move to SD Card" for all the Apps I was able to do that for to get more memory under the Setting's options.

This may sound odd to some, but I prefer the setup with the memory for the S 4G. I actually still have the Vibrant & recently got the S4G, & just out of curiosity, I loaded the same exact apps to the S4G as I had on the Vibrant. Having the apps on the SD card has a tremendous effect on the performance than having them on the internals. There is of course the lag issue on the Vibrant, but the S4G just just kept on trucking, no lags. I even went a step further & pulled up google maps, you tube, media player & still didn't skip a beat. I tried that with the Vibrant & I had to restart...

What people are posting about devs being able to do with 1gb on memory is stupid. I have an hd2 with 1gb running cm7 on it. I still have about 600mb free on it. Of course I use apps2sd on it but that's just a personal preference. Devs will be able to do plenty once all the bloat and crapware is stripped from the 4g
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Beefvvl said:
Thanks for the help. Even though as dcam and Seanathan mentioned. This Galaxy S 4G phone doesn't come with the Internal SD space like it's brother's have.
If I run out of memory again for apps I will try this out. I manually did the "Move to SD Card" for all the Apps I was able to do that for to get more memory under the Setting's options.
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yes, that is true
but the Apps2SD script hack, or the Link2SD still works with the External SD
if you use the Multi mount or Dual mount USB then you can access the files on the PC without breaking the connection internally for the phone apps
ironically that's one of the problem with the Nexus S, the lack of External SD support, and only 1GB of space, so everything needs to be moved to External SD, and be able to use it meanwhile you share file on the PC

has anyone tried to repartition with MiniTool Partition Wizard? after I resized the original partition, and tried to create a new partition, it gave an error messaging saying the new partition could not be created unless I delete all the partitions and re-create from scratch.

AllGamer said:
yes, that is true
but the Apps2SD script hack, or the Link2SD still works with the External SD
if you use the Multi mount or Dual mount USB then you can access the files on the PC without breaking the connection internally for the phone apps
ironically that's one of the problem with the Nexus S, the lack of External SD support, and only 1GB of space, so everything needs to be moved to External SD, and be able to use it meanwhile you share file on the PC
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Just curious. Which one is better out of the two or can you use both in conjunction with each other? Also which App2SD do you use? There are a couple from different devs.

Beefvvl said:
Just curious. Which one is better out of the two or can you use both in conjunction with each other? Also which App2SD do you use? There are a couple from different devs.
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both can be used together
although the Link2SD is quite straight forward
you just need to repartition the SD card to have a linux EXT partition
then you can use either the ext2 or ext3 to mount it and use Link2SD to manage the apps as you would use the native Apps2SD supported by Froyo and newer AOS
unfortunately the Froyo method of Apps2SD only works if the developer of the apps enables it
but Link2SD will force even apps that are not natively apps2SD capable to run from SD

Cool. Thanks for the info. I tried using App2SD from the market but I don't think this is the same App2SD hack that you are referring to. It didn't really help me much at all. I'll try out Link2SD maybe some other time.
I ended up using Titanium Backup and did moved apps to SD. I was able to move the pre-installed apps to SD and also all the other apps that weren't able to move to sd originally.

for the Apps2SD hack to work and/or Link2SD
you will need to have an External SD formatted with a 2nd partition to ext2 for it to work

update
the latest version of Link2SD is FAT32 compatible
so now you no longer have to partition and format the External SD card to have a linux ext2 partition

AllGamer said:
the latest version of Link2SD is FAT32 compatible
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I've found that some Linux systems have some speed penalty when writing to M$ filesystems. There have also been discussions about "aligning" FAT filesystems with flash blocks, such as http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3696
Is there solid evidence about the relative speed of FAT32 vs. ext3 (or ext4) for the partition to be linked to?

I am so glad I found this thread! I've been pulling my hair out over this MAJOR design flaw of minimal app space on the Galaxy S 4G! I felt forced to root this wonderful phone just to have a chance at correcting the designers mistake. I thought I was going to have to wait for a ROM to be released.
I was at 50MB available space before this suggestion and now I have 188MB free! I used paragon partition manager and partitioned 350MB in ext3. That was more than enough, as I've only used about 170 MB of that space. Anyway, thanks all you great people!

How did you get TB to move pre-installed apps? Have tried that to no avail - thanks in advance.

Moving apps to ext. SD card

Hello all
this is my first android phone.
i managed to move some apps to sd card, but only to the internal.
How can i get them to the external sd card ? the ext. card is a mount point inside the internal one, thats what i found out.
Cheers
Lorien

At this stage it cant be done.

Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien

Lorien25 said:
Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien
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It's a limitation of the Android File System in general, not of froyo, gingerbread or ice cream sandwich. This is how the OS works.
What you can do is to go the the phone settings then programs then app manager and there click one by one the apps and choose to move to the SD card. You will notice that you will still have a portion of the app running from the phone memory. This is something that you have to live with for the time being but at least the half of the app should have been moved to the SD so at the end of the day you will gain some space.

Yes thats what i already did, worked great, but i do still have a almost empty ext. sd card. All the apps i moved are still on the internal sd card.

How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete

mad_sunday said:
How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete
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I think we might have success with that actually. I will give it a try and I will let you know.

Any progress in this matter ? My internal SD Card is already full ! Have to start removing apps to install others.
I think those Android OS limitations are pretty wierd, so the ext. card slot is just for photos,videos on an android phone then ?

I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.

m33ts4k0z said:
I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.
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The main problem is not the apps themselves. So Darktremor's A2SD would not help. The problem is, the extra files for large games are automatically downloaded to internal sd memory. Which is limited to 7GB. New games require more than 500 MB's each, so 7 Megs would be enough for many of us, but not enough for some of us.
It is certainly enough for me right now, but you cant see what future brings.

Hi guys,
I'm having this problem now.
Basically, my internal memory is being used by don't know what and I have left around 400mb.
The problem is that I cannot download more 3D games, they require around 500mb each!
I have tried to delete photos, videos and apps that I don't use but even like that it's not enough.
So now, I have a empty SD Card of 16GB and a phone/system that doesn't let me use that free space for "nothing".
BTW I did transfer the internal apps to the SD card, but very little changed.
Does anyone managed to find a solution for it? how can they sell android phones claiming that you can expand the memory of it if you are not able to use that memory for apps?
I already feel sorry for those that have the Evo 3D which apparently comes with 1GB internal memory.
And how can I move the 3D games to the SD card?

i think we have to wait until firmware update .. right now still behide 2.2.2 not even on 2.3 yet .. so i think we could move all app to ext card until 2.3 or higher.. i have try all the app out there .. not even one of them working .. you can move to internal memory but not ext sd card ..

you can also resolve this problem by switching internal and external memory. this works fine for the phone but messes up mass storage mode in windows! so you will find problems mounting your sd-card in windows - so you have to use alternatives for file transfer (ssh, ftp, adb) - means this is pretty much for advanced users only

[Q] Missing Internal SD

Hey sorry if this is posted somewhere else but I dont know where to look and I looked on google for you guys who want to post that google thing.
Anyways, after installing roms from CM7 or even eagle, my internal sd card does not show up in file or root explorer. Its shown in the storage sections but not where i can access the information on there from the phone's file system.
When i restore back to stock (but rooted) rom its back to normal!

Its there, just hidden and named emmc. This is why root explorer is a must own app, it allows to see tons of hidden files you would otherwise not see. I'm sure there's other free apps that can do the same but root explorer has saved me from so many headaches it was an instant buy in market.
The 1 major gripe I ever had with this phone was the way they partitioned the internal storage, whoever decided that was a complete moron!
Edit:
Look under mnt/emmc with root explorer
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Thanks but how do I use it for normal everyday stuff? I guess i cant with CM7?

Sure you can, just move stuff from sdcard to mnt/emmc with root explorer. I know its a pain and one of the reasons I started a request thread to see if there was a way to bind/combine both partitions into 1 so we'd all have more internal space for installing apps/games.
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Hey thanks for the insight, I will just keep my reg ota with root until a much better version comes out.

jetbruceli said:
Hey thanks for the insight, I will just keep my reg ota with root until a much better version comes out.
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Do you use an external sdcard with your g2x, or do you use only the internal? There is a potentially easy solution if you want to use CM7 and keep the internal card as your primary. I'll tell you how step by step, but depending on if you use an external card and what you use it for, more or less steps will be involved. So I'll wait for your answer so I can give you the right response.
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Well I have a 32 gb SD installed but like having the internal for apps and clockwork roms
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jetbruceli said:
Well I have a 32 gb SD installed but like having the internal for apps and clockwork roms
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I personally prefer to keep my backups and personal data on an external/removable sdcard. Its safer that way in case anything happens to the phones internal memory, all my documents and backups are safe and I can put my sdcard into my computer or another phone to retrieve it. Also, I'd much rather have 32gb of storage for all that rather than the 5gb you'll have with the internal card.
That said, its personal preference and always good to have options. Here's how I have mine setup with CM7 (I'll explain how to achieve the setup you want in a moment):
- My external removable card is mounted at /mnt/sdcard. This is the default setup of CM7.
- My internal sdcard (emmc) is mounted at /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD. CM7 default is to mount it at /mnt/emmc, which means if I have photos, music and movies stored there they wont show up in some of my apps. By having it mounted to a directory inside my /mnt/sdcard directory, any app that looks at my external sdcard will also see what's stored on the internal sdcard. This is similar to the stock setup, except that with stock the external card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD.
But if you want the internal to be your primary sdcard then here are a couple of fixes for you. The quickest fix is this:
- Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > Application
- Select "Use internal storage"
- Reboot phone
- Now your internal card will be mounted at /mnt/sdcard and your external card at /mnt/emmc
- This makes your internal card your main sdcard but leaves you external card mostly unusable because of its mount point.
So if you are like me and you like for things to be labeled properly and usable then continue reading. This works with CM7 (it wont work with stock), and I also recommend having root explorer (from the Market). My instructions will be specific to root explorer, although you can use any root text editor you want. You will need to edit 2 files (/system/build.prop and /system/etc/vold.fstab):
- Using root explorer navigate to your /system directory.
- At the top of the screen select "Mount R/W"
- Scroll down and find the /system/build.prop file. Long-press on it and select to open in text editor.
- Scroll about halfway down the file and find the section that says "
# Mount the internal SD card, too
- Where it says "ro.additionalmounts=" specify a directory by typing its full path. I use /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD. This is the mount point you will use in the vold.fstab file (which you'll edit in a moment)
- The very next line says "ro.vold.switchablepair=" .. These are the mount points that get swapped when you enable that setting in CM7. Change the options to match the mount points you will want to use. So for me it says "/mnt/sdcard,/mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD" ... of course no quotation marks.
- Select Menu > Save & Exit. One nice feature of root explorer is that it automatically saves your original file as a backup in case there are any problems.
- Now navigate to /system/etc
- Make sure the directory is still mounted as R/W, scroll down and open the file /system/etc/vold.fstab. This file specifies where both the external and internal sdcards are actually mounted. Each drive/device has its own entry.
- Find the line that starts with dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc" and change it to match the mount point you created in the build.prop file. So for me I change it to "dev_mount emmc /mnt/sdcard/_OtherSD"
- Select Menu > Save & Exit
- Reboot phone
Now when you use the CM7 settings option to use internal storage, it will swap them but still keep one mounted within the other so any music, pics, videos you have will be usable by all your apps.
****PLEASE NOTE**** -- These changes will be overwritten if you flash a new nightly.
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Thanks a million! I will try just having access is good.
I have root explorer and I use file expert.
You said ur on cm7? Or are u on a custom version like eagle? I keep flipping between reg stock, cm7, miui and eagle. Just can't tell which is the best for everyday use.
But really thanks for all the info!
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jetbruceli said:
Thanks a million! I will try just having access is good.
I have root explorer and I use file expert.
You said ur on cm7? Or are u on a custom version like eagle? I keep flipping between reg stock, cm7, miui and eagle. Just can't tell which is the best for everyday use.
But really thanks for all the info!
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Just plain CM7. I think I'm using nightly 144. The method should be the same or similar on other cm7-based roms. It just won't work on stock-based roms because the changes to the files get overwritten when you reboot.
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d12unk13astard said:
Its there, just hidden and named emmc. This is why root explorer is a must own app, it allows to see tons of hidden files you would otherwise not see. I'm sure there's other free apps that can do the same but root explorer has saved me from so many headaches it was an instant buy in market.
The 1 major gripe I ever had with this phone was the way they partitioned the internal storage, whoever decided that was a complete moron!
Edit:
Look under mnt/emmc with root explorer
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I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.

JaiaV said:
I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.
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I wonder what would happen if the phone was physically repartitioned ... I don't know enough of how Android works to know what effects that would have. Obviously the disk is just a disk and you can create whatever partition sizes you want. Is the OS designed to look for a certain number of partitions and partition sizes on each phone? Or will it just use what's there?
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JaiaV said:
I've been trying to edit the vold.stab etc on my phone forever trying to get that to work and I haven't gotten it figured out (still a Linux noob, probably always will be). I realize most people seem to prefer the already available options to remount it inside the external SD card or vice versa, but honestly I really just want it combined with the internal memory. Others say that is pointless because 1.5GB should be plenty of space, but honestly if I were to install all the apps on my Transformer onto my phone, my phone would almost immediately run out of internal space.
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I found an app that has made the 1.5gb internal storage manageable, look in the market for link2sd. Basicly it allows you to move any app/game to the extra partition on your sdcard(I made a 4gb partition) I'm amazed how stable it runs! After trying numerous apps2sd programs and them being unstable plus running out of internal space too quickly, link2sd is a godsend! It allows even dalvik cache moving to SD extra and batch selecting/deselecting for ultra quick installs. I can't reccommend this app enough for people having internal storage space problems.
As for the internal SD card being combined with the 1.5gb storage I put up a request thread on it hoping a Dev would know how to.. until that happens tho link2sd has made me proud.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265540
Internal storage partition
Some of the asshats on that thread made me laugh with their ignorance.
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d12unk13astard said:
I found an app that has made the 1.5gb internal storage manageable, look in the market for link2sd. Basicly it allows you to move any app/game to the extra partition on your sdcard(I made a 4gb partition) I'm amazed how stable it runs! After trying numerous apps2sd programs and them being unstable plus running out of internal space too quickly, link2sd is a godsend! It allows even dalvik cache moving to SD extra and batch selecting/deselecting for ultra quick installs. I can't reccommend this app enough for people having internal storage space problems.
As for the internal SD card being combined with the 1.5gb storage I put up a request thread on it hoping a Dev would know how to.. until that happens tho link2sd has made me proud.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265540
Internal storage partition
Some of the asshats on that thread made me laugh with their ignorance.
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I can move apps to external storage by default with CM7. This is not the solution I am looking for , but thank you for trying.

JaiaV said:
I can move apps to external storage by default with CM7. This is not the solution I am looking for , but thank you for trying.
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The difference between apps2sd which your using and link2sd which i'm using is that with apps2sd your internal memory will run out much faster then if using link2sd which can also move dalvikcache to sd ext. I've already moved 300 apps/games to sd ext with link2sd and still have over 1gb of internal storage, try doing that with apps2sd
Edit: forgot to mention link2sd is a free app in market.

[TWEAK][MOD][FIX][CM7] sdcard Switcharoo!

CyanogenMod 7 sdcard Switcharoo tweak/mod/fix!
When i first got CM7 on my Infuse I immediately came across an annoying problem (at least for me). Like all AT&T customers, my phone came with an external SD card with 2gb of storage and the phone itself has 16gb of internal storage. So i noticed that by default, my 2gb external sdcard was the mnt/sdcard directory that all my apps use and mnt\emmc was my internal 16gb. For me that sucked because all my Titanium Backups were in my internal sdcard and I coudnt move it to my external because of memory insufficiency. So i decided i would mod the ROM to switch these sdcard directories and have 16gb instead of 2gb in my mnt\sdcard directory.
So, to make this simpler for me and you, suppose:
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Internal sdcard (16gb) = A
External sdcard (2gb) = B
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A is by default in mnt\emmc
B is by default in mnt\sdcard
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The problem with the above statements is that 2gb is not enough to make it my default sdcard. Apps like Titanium Backup, Dropbox, Camera and tons of others (like games) always store things in mnt\sdcard and they can rarely be configured to store elsewhere (at least to my knowledge).
So to solve the problem i edited the mnt\system\etc\vold.fstab file. This file just contains some random gibberish about where the sdcards mount to. So i switched the mounting directories of the two sdcards A and B. So far all i had to do is copy over the apps stored in my external to the new external mount (mnt\emmc).
So in short the only thing this changes is: (the before and after pic)
Before:
mnt\emmc is internal 16gb
mnt\sdcard is external 2gb
After:
mnt\emmc is external 2gb
mnt\sdcard is internal 16gb
Now, if lets say you had your apps stored in A and used my tweak. You would have to copy your apps over to B because thats the new A. Confusing i know...im trying. lol
So here is the procedure:
0. Download the attachment below and unzip it in your phone somewhere
1. Make sure you have root explorer or similar app
2. Using your explorer app mount mnt\system\ R/W
3. Navigate to vold.fstab file in mnt\system\etc
4. Rename the file to vold.fstab.bak (to keep it backed up)
5. Now find the directory where you downloaded and put my new vold.fstab file
6. Copy my new vold.fstab file to mnt\system\etc and paste
7. Reboot phone.
If you encounter difficulties, then undo the process by first deleting my modded vold.fstab and then renaming your old vold.fstab.bak to vold.fstab and then rebooting.
Also, Keep in mind that this is for CM7 users. Don't use it if you don't know what CM7 is or don't use CM7 port. Cheers, hope this helps someone.

A much easier solution:
Go to Settings -> CyanogenMod settings -> Application
Uncheck "Use internal storage"
Reboot.

PVD04 said:
A much easier solution:
Go to Settings -> CyanogenMod settings -> Application
Uncheck "Use internal storage"
Reboot.
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No, i understand what you are saying. But you, like others dont get what im after. i dont care where my apps go. i want my mnt\sdcard to be 16gb not 2gb. end of story.

Mohammad_Adib said:
No, i understand what you are saying. But you, like others dont get what im after. i dont care where my apps go. i want my mnt\sdcard to be 16gb not 2gb. end of story.
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I understand exactly what you are after. Unchecking "Use internal storage" mounts the internal storage as mnt\sdcard. There is no reason to do it any other way.

My /mnt/sdcard is the internal memory and my 4GB microsd is my external storage been like that from stock and I have all of my important stuff on the external for obvious reasons. Don't know why you would need this am I missing something?
Infused with Android DNA

PVD04 said:
I understand exactly what you are after. Unchecking "Use internal storage" mounts the internal storage as mnt\sdcard. There is no reason to do it any other way.
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This is exactly right - unchecking internal storage does exactly what your tweak does.

I have a 16 gig SD internal and external and I prefer using external which is default, when my phone had to be redone due to bad flash, I loss everything on my internal. Even if I checked something wrong it still feels safer using external last I checked 16gig cards are like 25 bux. I want 32gig next. Sounds to me like a poor attempt to get status here. Try on a group less educated then xda. I feel offended by this trick.
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This might be useless for CM7 users but what about MIUI users, don't CM7 and MIUI use the same kernel?
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i just got a 16gb external card to replace the OEM supplied 2gb sdcard.
Also Titanium allows you to change the backup folder location.

Cool. thanks for telling me. but that never worked for me. so this did and i dont care how u guys do it as long as the results are the same.

I thought that emmc was the external memory card? Because I have a 16 GB external and CM7 reads it as EMMC
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Cm7 switchs external and internal so it is like every phone since not all phones have 16gb internal. I don't really use internal.
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8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!

If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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bruce7373 said:
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.

I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?

Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?

Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.

sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal

Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.

I did that not very usefull

merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little

sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............

marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical

Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.