Is the main USB port active or any good uses for it yet
USB thumbdrives appear to be the only thing that works and are not hot-swappable (must reboot to see it). On some very rare occasions the thumbdrive will be seen without a reboot, but the ratio is about 1/20 times (yes I tested this).
USB host function and bluetooth input connectivity are very poor on the stock based FW.
wireless kb/mouse work fine in cm b4
I've gotten a wireless and wired keyboard to work, but never a mouse.
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I've gotten a wireless and wired keyboard to work, but never a mouse.
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your sig says you're on TnTlite. you got the external keyboards working on that or a different FW ?
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your sig says you're on TnTlite. you got the external keyboards working on that or a different FW ?
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Both stock and TnT Lite worked with the keyboards. I've tried USB wired and USB wireless; keyboards work, but no love for a mouse. Haven't tried Bluetooth
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Both stock and TnT Lite worked with the keyboards. I've tried USB wired and USB wireless; keyboards work, but no love for a mouse. Haven't tried Bluetooth
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Few questions please:
1. Are you using TnT Lite 2.0?
2. This device really has USB wireless drivers and control chip, or do you mean bluetooth?
3. How can you get a wireless or manual keyvboard to read when the options will not allow anything but the default keyboard? This is the (or a) reason Wiimote and other input devices will not work.
4. What keyboards for USB and wireless?
I could not get the device with TnT 2.0 to see anything via USB except thumb drives and absolutely nothing is seen via bluetooth as far as input devices. Part of the problem is the same process for hotswap (that does not work) is also part of the polling process for hardware to be seen and read. Gtablet apparently does not look for devices except at start-up.
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any extra steps needed other than plugging it into the usb port....?
what model keyboards were they?
I have found that it is also good for charging my phone. Seems to work whether the screen is on or off.
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any extra steps needed other than plugging it into the usb port....?
what model keyboards were they?
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I just plugged my generic wired keyboard into the USB port -- first times after the g-tablet was booted up, the second time before it was booted up -- both times the keyboard works just fine. To enter type I simply tap on the text input box and start typing on the real keyboard. If you tap on the textbox you will bring up the on-screen keyboard; that does not interfere with the real keyboard. Alternatively, you can touch the "return" button which will remove the on-screen keyboard, at which point you can then start typing with the real keyboard without the on-screen one, the one exception being the default brower (the on-screen keyboard reappears as soon as I start typing).
Right now I'm on TnT Lite 2.0, but the USB keyboard worked when I was still on stock (pre-update).
As for USB flash drive: I just plug mine into the already booted-up g-tablet, and I am able to access all the files -- I can view the pdf and listen to mp3 etc (this is definitely not true with stock TnT).
NOTE: ESfile explorer do NOT see the files on the USB drive the moment I plug the drive it. So I back out to the home screen, hit ESfile explorer again, and wa la, the files are there. I guess it takes a few seconds to scan the drive (understandable...)
I just rebooted the g-tablet and then plug in the USB drive, and it still works! This time I waited 5 seconds before firing up the ESfile explorer and the files are there.
I have no luck using a wired mouse with the g-table
I have used BT keyboard with Bluetooth keyboard app, but as has been confirmed, BT mouse does not work with bluetooth apps or dirctly. The BT program was problematic, but a generic belkin bt dongle works with the wireless keyboard just by pushing the pairing button on the dongle and then just hitting some random keys on the keyboard while it is in discover mode. After that, you just begin typing.
omg wooooooo quake 3 with keyboard hahaha this is a riot
Whatformat does the drive have to be in for the USB to read it. Also im running latest version tnt lite and the device seems to hang alot. I have a task mgr and fequetly close apps and it helps some. Any ideas? Seems alot of stuff starts up when you boot. Is there a way to stop that?
thanks Matt
Also my Microsoft bt kb and and mouse work fine on this device. Haven't tested the bt pocket kb for my old dell axim yet. Needs batteries.
Matt
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Few questions please:
1. Are you using TnT Lite 2.0?
2. This device really has USB wireless drivers and control chip, or do you mean bluetooth?
3. How can you get a wireless or manual keyvboard to read when the options will not allow anything but the default keyboard? This is the (or a) reason Wiimote and other input devices will not work.
4. What keyboards for USB and wireless?
I could not get the device with TnT 2.0 to see anything via USB except thumb drives and absolutely nothing is seen via bluetooth as far as input devices. Part of the problem is the same process for hotswap (that does not work) is also part of the polling process for hardware to be seen and read. Gtablet apparently does not look for devices except at start-up.
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I'm using TnT lite 2.02. I've tried a standard USB keyboard and it works fine. Takes just a few moments for detection, but afterwards tapping into any edit box allows for input via the keyboard. For wireless, I've tried several RF wireless combo units. These, from Microsoft, Logitech and a few others, have a USB transiever (sp?) That works with the keyboard, but I haven't had any luck with a mouse.
My unit seems to play nicely win USB flash drives as well, including being hot swapable friendly. I've not had to reboot just for detection of a flash drive.
They only Bluetooth device I've tried is a pair of Motorola S9 stereo headphones, which worked just as well as they do with my iPhone.
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I'm using TnT lite 2.02. I've tried a standard USB keyboard and it works fine. Takes just a few moments for detection, but afterwards tapping into any edit box allows for input via the keyboard. For wireless, I've tried several RF wireless combo units. These, from Microsoft, Logitech and a few others, have a USB transiever (sp?) That works with the keyboard, but I haven't had any luck with a mouse.
My unit seems to play nicely win USB flash drives as well, including being hot swapable friendly. I've not had to reboot just for detection of a flash drive.
They only Bluetooth device I've tried is a pair of Motorola Ismael stereo headphones, which worked just as well as they do with my iPhone.
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Is your device newer? As in last week or two (mine is one of the first 1,000)? No luck with mine to the point I returned it yesterday, a few days before too late to return it. I tried everything I could think of with no luck.
What was the keyboard model & number? Zero luck with bluetooth as well, for any input device I tried. Using the same FW as you are.
I use my lenovo htpc kb/mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Multimedia-Remote-with-Keyboard/dp/B0036VO67I
As soon as I plug it in it works. A mouse cursor pops up when it detects the slightest movement of the trackball.
Again, this is wireless not BT on CM B4.
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I use my lenovo htpc kb/mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Multimedia-Remote-with-Keyboard/dp/B0036VO67I
As soon as I plug it in it works. A mouse cursor pops up when it detects the slightest movement of the trackball.
Again, this is wireless not BT on CM B4.
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Sorry, I am referring to TnT based FW. With CM you lose either the internal or external microsd (one or the other).
Of course CM works, since no lame TnT OEM devs to screw things up that should not be messed with in the first place
If CM ever works with all storage, it will be a nice option
People report success with TnT 2.0, but not seeing any specifics as to how and what they are using. Nothing worked for me using TnT 2.0.
I have used a thumbdrive with good results. I usually put the tablet to sleep while swapping the usb drive in or out. This accomplishes two things...one, it keeps the tablet from spontaneously rebooting (which happened to me once while pulling out the thumb drive) and two, it ensures that the tablet sees the the usb drive. The tablet seems to scan for drives when it wakes up.
On my tab with CM B4 \sdcard is my 8gb micro sd (external card) and \emmc is the onboard 16gb of space. It still doesn't go into usb storage mode when plugged into a PC but you can adb in or go to CW and mount usb. I'm pretty sure Bekit integrated the fixes that came down with the TnT update, not to mention more that we found. Huge thanks to him for all his hard work and quick updates.
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Grasping at straws here, but has anyone been able to map any of the Oid emulators or PSX to function as a controller? Due to the iffy multi touch response of the Gtablet, the virtual pad is not very playable for emulators. Definitely the device, since Incredible and Droid X work decently with vpad.
People have reported keyboards working (another question- how people got them working), so wonder if anyone tried.
Yea works great. I did it at work last night
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Yea works great. I did it at work last night
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TnT Lite 2.0?
What keyboard or method (usb or bluetooth)? Probably not bluetooth (if TnT), since no way to currently adjust the input keyboard option.
Thanks
no tnt will not let you choose other input methods, as far as i know there is not a mod or fix for this either. it really stinks
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no tnt will not let you choose other input methods, as far as i know there is not a mod or fix for this either. it really stinks
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A little confused then, since this contradicts other posters- IF they are using a TnT based rom.
I would say I need to test myself to be sure, but already have. Like you, Crim, I had ZERO luck getting ANY usb device to work that I tried. Bluetooth or USB.
Not sure what to make of reports of success. Only thing that seems to make sense is they are not using TnT based firmware. One person reported wifi usb controllers working, which is as likely as the viewing angles improving
I know they meant bluetooth, but the point is the info is getting a tad convoluted.
Real simple:
Has anyone gotten a usb or bluetooth keyboard to work with the TnT Lite 2.0?
If "yes":
1. Bluetooth or USB?
2. How did you get it to work?
3. What model & part number for the device?
4. Are you really using TnT 2.0?
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A little confused then, since this contradicts other posters- IF they are using a TnT based rom.
I would say I need to test myself to be sure, but already have. Like you, Crim, I had ZERO luck getting ANY usb device to work that I tried. Bluetooth or USB.
Not sure what to make of reports of success. Only thing that seems to make sense is they are not using TnT based firmware. One person reported wifi usb controllers working, which is as likely as the viewing angles improving
I know they meant bluetooth, but the point is the info is getting a tad convoluted.
Real simple:
Has anyone gotten a usb or bluetooth keyboard to work with the TnT Lite 2.0?
If "yes":
1. Bluetooth or USB?
2. How did you get it to work?
3. What model & part number for the device?
4. Are you really using TnT 2.0?
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1. USB. i used a dell keyboard and a lenovo keyboard and they both work. they are generic keyboards with no special keys
2. i plugged it in, i rebooted the first time because someone else said they had to do that. but i tested plugging in without reboot and that worked for me also on both keyboards.
3. Model No. UPC300-2.2 .... is this the one you needed off the back of the gtab?
4. yes im using tntlite2.0. in my 'about tablet' it says for model number "GTablet-TnT-Lite" and when i installed it i only followed the directions for the 2.0 but i can double check if you know a place i can check the actual version
5. usb mouse did not work for me with or without reboots. the laser in the mouse did turn on and the mouse received power, but the gtab did nothing. i even opened an emulator to try to map the mouse to some keys and it did not pick up anything
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1. USB. i used a dell keyboard and a lenovo keyboard and they both work. they are generic keyboards with no special keys
2. i plugged it in, i rebooted the first time because someone else said they had to do that. but i tested plugging in without reboot and that worked for me also on both keyboards.
3. Model No. UPC300-2.2 .... is this the one you needed off the back of the gtab?
4. yes im using tntlite2.0. in my 'about tablet' it says for model number "GTablet-TnT-Lite" and when i installed it i only followed the directions for the 2.0 but i can double check if you know a place i can check the actual version
5. usb mouse did not work for me with or without reboots. the laser in the mouse did turn on and the mouse received power, but the gtab did nothing. i even opened an emulator to try to map the mouse to some keys and it did not pick up anything
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Thanks! So USB KB's work, but bluetooth KB's do not with TnT FW.
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A little confused then, since this contradicts other posters- IF they are using a TnT based rom.
I would say I need to test myself to be sure, but already have. Like you, Crim, I had ZERO luck getting ANY usb device to work that I tried. Bluetooth or USB.
Not sure what to make of reports of success. Only thing that seems to make sense is they are not using TnT based firmware. One person reported wifi usb controllers working, which is as likely as the viewing angles improving
I know they meant bluetooth, but the point is the info is getting a tad convoluted.
Real simple:
Has anyone gotten a usb or bluetooth keyboard to work with the TnT Lite 2.0?
If "yes":
1. Bluetooth or USB?
2. How did you get it to work?
3. What model & part number for the device?
4. Are you really using TnT 2.0?
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ok, maybe i worded that poorly. i was able to use a usb keyboard and that qualifies as another input method. but as far as selecting another input method other than the stock tnt keyboard that is a big no go(wiimote, swype, stock android keyboard, swiftkey etc...)but yes i plugged in a standard microsoft usb keyboard and it did work right away. that isn't really what i'm looking for though.
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ok, maybe i worded that poorly. i was able to use a usb keyboard and that qualifies as another input method. but as far as selecting another input method other than the stock tnt keyboard that is a big no go(wiimote, swype, stock android keyboard, swiftkey etc...)but yes i plugged in a standard microsoft usb keyboard and it did work right away. that isn't really what i'm looking for though.
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Almost like the OEM did it on purpose. Perhaps in a naive effort to force VSs own peripherals on folks at a later date?? Nah!
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1. USB. i used a dell keyboard and a lenovo keyboard and they both work. they are generic keyboards with no special keys
2. i plugged it in, i rebooted the first time because someone else said they had to do that. but i tested plugging in without reboot and that worked for me also on both keyboards.
3. Model No. UPC300-2.2 .... is this the one you needed off the back of the gtab?
4. yes im using tntlite2.0. in my 'about tablet' it says for model number "GTablet-TnT-Lite" and when i installed it i only followed the directions for the 2.0 but i can double check if you know a place i can check the actual version
5. usb mouse did not work for me with or without reboots. the laser in the mouse did turn on and the mouse received power, but the gtab did nothing. i even opened an emulator to try to map the mouse to some keys and it did not pick up anything
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Same here. I have also had success with RF wireless keyboards that have a USB transceiver.
Thanks for the clarifications!
I wonder if there are any USB game controllers that poll using ASCII mapping like keyboards do?
Hi, can anyone who owns a XOOM pls let me know if you can plug in:
1) a USB flash drive to the XOOM, and view and open files on the drive?
2) an external hard drive and view and access files from your XOOM
Many thanks
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Hi, can anyone who owns a XOOM pls let me know if you can plug in:
1) a USB flash drive to the XOOM, and view and open files on the drive?
2) an external hard drive and view and access files from your XOOM
Many thanks
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Does the Xoom have a USB port? Pretty sure it only has MicroUSB. I guess they do have microusb flash drives not that I look.
Hi. Yup its only got micro USB, but I guess you could use the included adapter cable to plug in a flash drive.... we don't have the XOOM here yet, but the functionality of being able to connect a flash drive, move files e.g. PDF or .doc and then view them is important to me.
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Hi. Yup its only got micro USB, but I guess you could use the included adapter cable to plug in a flash drive.... we don't have the XOOM here yet, but the functionality of being able to connect a flash drive, move files e.g. PDF or .doc and then view them is important to me.
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As of today what you want is not avab. The cable it comes with doesn't take input. They do have a cable online that will do this one day, but doesn't do it yet.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
The cable that Motorola "will" be selling is a micro-usb to standard usb (female) adapter. I'll look around for the sources, but I know that I saw this detailed in a few videos from Motorola techs and at least one reviewer site.
The cable is not just a straight conversion of form factor, but has the necessary pinout to instruct the Xoom to jump into usb host mode. From the reports that I saw, it would absolutely provide the ability to plug usb drives, cameras and other accessories into the xoom for direct access. In fact, the reviewer that I saw, made a comment that they had verified the functionality by plugging in a couple usb keyboards... supposedly worked like a champ.
Lame that we need a "special" adapter, but I can imagine that if it is just a pinout issue, it may be possible for the good folks here at XDA to craft a software solution that would allow us to bypass the motorola-branded cable... It would have been WAY cooler if it was a standard usb port, like some of the other tablets on the horizon.
Thanks. They mention in many reviews and I think Google mentioned it too that you can attach a mouse or keyboard by cable (I know about Bluetooth) which suggests that it should support input, so is it just a hardware interface thing or an actual firmware OS/software issue?
Edit: thanks for the great response gigglebox.... we posted simultaneously
Is this it?
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-xoom-camera-connection-kit
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Is this it?
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-xoom-camera-connection-kit
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Visually, yeah. Looks like they took it off their site for some reason. In fact the only times that I saw this on Moto's site, was in the day or 2 leading up to the launch... when typing in xoom into the search bar on their landing page, it would spit out a drop-down menu listing the Camera Connection Kit (by name and pic).
I dont like the fact that they call it a "camera connection", but they werent pulling any punches about it serving as a host. They did note that the external storage (thumbdrives, etc) were not yet supported, but that they would be. The cameras and (according to them) keyboards were working now.
I believe it is possible but right now it is a software limitation.
More info here: https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/329075
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I believe it is possible but right now it is a software limitation.
More info here: https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/329075
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Agreed, the engineer from moto definitely says the hardware should accept any usb 2.0 or higher device, but it's a software issue. Toshiba have a straight usb and a micro usb port on their device so hopefully they're working on this.
We don't have the XOOM here yet, but hopefully by the time it becomes available (approx April) we might have the option of the Toshiba as well.
I use this USB host cable and it works great. Have tested it with my 750gb Oyen and 320gb WD Passport external HDD's, several usb flash drives (8-16gb), San disk USB memory card reader, and a USB keyboard.
For those having issues getting their Xoom to recognize USB storage devices here's what I've got and did to get it to work: I flashed my XOOM (3.1) to the 2.6.36.4 Tiamat_Xoom-v1.4.4-Full_Throttle Kernel and was unable to get the USBMount to recognize drives or storage at first. I installed USB Mass Storage Watcher from the market (it's free) and it works awesome! Can mount any storage I want (NTFS, FAT16/32, HFS, HFS+, EXT2, ETX3, EXT4) with any capacity. I think this app will work with any rooted Xoom (or other devices). Under my Kernel my USB host is located under/usbOTG.
Hope this helps.
FYI ... I've checked it and stock ROM Xoom without root is able to operate standard PC keyboard/mouse using basic one-to-one usb->microusb adapter (without any electronics onboard).
Probably with proper dual socket usb adapter (also without electronics onboard) it would be possible to connect both keyboard and mouse at once.
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FYI ... I've checked it and stock ROM Xoom without root is able to operate standard PC keyboard/mouse using basic one-to-one usb->microusb adapter (without any electronics onboard).
Probably with proper dual socket usb adapter (also without electronics onboard) it would be possible to connect both keyboard and mouse at once.
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if you have a Logitech keyboard and mouse that connect by the unifying receiver,or mostly any keyboard+mouse combo that connects by one receiver, then only a standard OTG cable should work.
Is there anything I need to do/install to get my mouse or keyboard to work on 3.1? When I plug them in, nothing happens. I've also tried plugging in my iPhone and an Xbox 360 controller, just to see if there is any response to any of them to show that the Xoom sees them.
I have a wired mouse and wireless keyboard (I figured keyboard wouldn't work). I'm trying to figure out if I may just have a bad OTG adapter.
Bluetooth keyboards work just fine.
You won't get any notifications or popups when you plug in a device, they will just start working (eg, you can just start typing with the keyboard).
Yeah I assumed they would just start working, but I wasn't sure if my wireless keyboard would work. I know when I am, for example, installing windows the keyboard works before drivers get installed, just not to the full extent.
I need help on this aswell... anyone?
I was wondering about this aswell. Doesn't it need to download drivers for the keyboard/mouse to work? Also since there's only one USB plug, would a hub work to get like a keyboard and mouse working at the same time?
And would wireless work?
Thinking the Droid Charge supports the HID bluetooth profile, I purchased the Atrix keyboard; however, I cannot seem to pair it. I put the keyboard in pairing mode and then scan for Bluetooth devices. On the Charge I select the "Motorola Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard" from the menu and am given a message "Enter xxxxxx to pair with ...". This message disappears in less than a second and I'm given the error message "Unable to establish communication with ...". I never have the chance to enter the code on the keyboard ...
Any thoughts? Thanks for your help.
I believe I read somewhere that this was supposed to support the HID profile out of the box I'm not 100% sure though. You could try one of the HID drivers from the marketplace I think one is called blueinput or something similar. Post back if you get it working cause I would really like to have a wireless mini keyboard for this phone as well.
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i'm not sure if this is helpful, but I paired a bluetooth mouse with my Charge, using no special drivers. I would like to know if a bluetooth keyboard would work with it though.
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i'm not sure if this is helpful, but I paired a bluetooth mouse with my Charge, using no special drivers. I would like to know if a bluetooth keyboard would work with it though.
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If you can get a mouse to work without having any special drivers/apps to support it then it at least means that the phone does support HID protocols which would mean that generic bluetooth keyboards should work. If the keyboard requires some sort of special driver that is installed after pairing it most likely won't work, though.
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If you can get a mouse to work without having any special drivers/apps to support it then it at least means that the phone does support HID protocols which would mean that generic bluetooth keyboards should work. If the keyboard requires some sort of special driver that is installed after pairing it most likely won't work, though.
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I should clarify and update this - the device I have is a bluetooth presentation remote/mouse. It can switch between mouse mode and presenter mode. It works for a few minutes, but then loses connection. It works fine with a computer, so I don't think there's a problem with the remote.
You can connect the Charge to BT keyboard and don't have to root..
Thanks to another member TylerMF you CAN probably pair the Atrix (also for Xoom) keyboard.
See his thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28133531#post28133531
He connected his BT keyboard to an Evo successfully.
I have a Samsung CHARGE and I had the same struggle, but followed his instructions and am now connected to both the Atrix/Xoom keyboard and a Logitech bluetooth mouse.
Very nice!
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anyone knows how I do it or where I find this?
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anyone knows how I do it or where I find this?
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The last time I tested a USB mouse and keyboard on one of aorth's CyanogenMod builds, they both worked great. To use both together you would need a OTG USB Hub adapter so you could have at least two USB ports.
Or you could use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Or you could use a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse with a USB keyboard/mouse and then you just need a OTG USB single port adapter.
I don't know of anybody who has messed around with drivers.
Several folks posted their experiences with external keyboards on this thread on the Accessories board. And here's another thread about keyboard and mouse combinations.
Just an FYI on this one, most USB mice / keyboards can function generically as HID devices.
Android has had built-in support for that sort of input for a long time, which is why pretty much any USB keyboard out there should be "plug & play".
Bluetooth is slightly more complicated, but generally also plug & play.
Obviously, if you have a crazy keyboard or mouse with 18 extra buttons on it and a display screen or something, that stuff probably won't work since there's no driver specifically for that device.
However, such devices "should" still function as normal keyboards, just as they do under most Linux distributions.
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Several folks posted their experiences with external keyboards on this thread on the Accessories board. And here's another thread about keyboard and mouse combinations.
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