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Best Rom so far

I bought att tilt today and want to know what's the best rom so far for it
Thanks

wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...

Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow a little harsh huh? why the sour response?

Well, Doug is probably coming from some other forum where a new "Which is the best ROM?" kind of post is started each week. It is a natural question, but it gets old after a while.
In the Hermes thread for example, there are multiple kitchens for making ROMs, so everyone and his brother are putting out new ROMs constantly that suit their needs. Asking which is the best is kind of like asking which restaurant is best in San Francisco. There are good ones and bad ones, cheap ones and expensive ones, it is all a matter of taste.
At this point though, with three or so cooked ROMs out for the Kaiser, I think it might be a valid question. Most knowledgable people will have tried all three and come to some sort of conclusion.

Yeah really ! why would this piss anybody off ?

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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum

hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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Really, a good way to find out what's best (for you) is to try them out. I know, everyone says that. But they say it for a reason.
A great place to find out before flashing is to hop into the individual threads for the specific ROMS and read what's included in each and what comments (good and bad) have been posted. There's only a few ROMs out at the moment, so that won't be hard at all.
Usually when anyone starts a thread like this they just want someone to throw out an easy "The best ROM is...". I am personally using the HTC stock at the moment. I like it for now, others don't. So, you'll have to decide for yourself.
Have fun finding out!

hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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My issue with the question is that if there truly was a "best ROM so far" available, it would be posted as such and probably stickied. The point is that there is no BEST, even with only 3 of them out there. Each is different.

I've tried all three ROMs and seem to be about the same. Only differences are the apps included, and storage space. Check them out and see for yourself.

Kaiser Roms, which is best?
I spent the last two days testing out all the variants of the ROMS out there, and there are pretty much only 4 English versions available.
Here you go, a nice summary of the results in one quick read, but i've not included the links to the files, some work for you
1. the stock HTC one - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe (uses WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620)
and then 3 or so (because he has sub versions to remove unnecessary programs) variants of the same ROM by Helmi:
2. helmi_Kaiser_1.57.000.1_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - a cooked version based on HTC WWE version but has newer WM6 CE base code (WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908)
3. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.02_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - another cooked version of HTC_WWE version but has selectable "activator" directory of cabs that the user can install as desired. Also uses same WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908 as above.
4. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.03_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - yet another flavour, but this one has virtually all extra programs removed in a good attempt at freeing up as much memory as possible, it also uses a newer version of WM6 CE OS 5.2.1921.
see Helmi's link for all the info. My hats off to you Helmi.
In the end, I decided to go with the standard version as released by HTC, as I didn't notice much of a difference myself. I have naturally upgraded various cabs and installed my ideal base set of apps to get the machine setup as I prefer. My decision to go this way was based on what I prefer and you should really try the ROMS yourself to make the correct decision, I didn't try every program with each version so perhaps i missed things.
I upgraded the Radio to version 1.27.12.17. -(this doesn't appear to make any difference to my terrible radio reception or the random dropping off of the radio link to GSM, neither does selecting the gsm option under band instead of auto). Thank god that I don't use 3G as there seems to be a real problem with the UMTS radio code. I just hope that I don't have a hardware fault, but I doubt it as numerous other people and links reflect similar issues to mine. We can only hope that HTC will release new RADIO code soon.
So, I wish you well in your endeavor to find "the perfect ROM".....

While I wouldn't have posted "best rom" question (as I agree, that is so subjective), that is a great help SAppie! Thanks!

Agree and Disagree
Not wanting to piss everyone off
I think the OP was requesting ROM test result and comparison, like SAppie comment, as I also agree there's no such thing as 'best ROM'.
Now, there're release with WM6.5 and others. Anyone can update this with newer ROM's comparison?
As a newbie in WM myself, some of the thread has 1000 pages .. to read all will be tough, but sometimes that's the only way. The FAQ and sticky is helpful as starting point for me ..

well i tried athineos os, hyperdragon III, life in 3d and now i will try 6.5 beta but so far the fastest is the athineos and it greaat

This is an old topic with no real constructive merit, so I'm closing it.
Perhaps this thread is what you're after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Thanks
Dave

Petition: For new HTC Juno/Phoebus - T-mobile Shadow - Dopod c750 section.

As this device is now available in multiple parts of the world, I believe that it deserves a section on the forums as many of the other HTC devices do. At first with the understanding that sections are only created for devices released throughout the world, the Juno has been announced for Dopod as the c750. I and many others believe it is time for the device to shine. Please give us a section.
If you believe in this movement for a new section, please acknowledge below. And hopefully in time we will all be able to rejoice in the new comming.​

I've pm one of the forums admins and he told me that we will have a section soon....

Well thats good to hear. Lets hope its soon.

I agree that we need a section for the juno/shadow/c750. We need a place where more people can collaborate on shadow-specific topics

i''m with you guys on this one too

in as well

Me too! I cant wait!

I'm ALL for it. It would be great to get back to xda forums since not a not goes on at Modaco. No rip there.. but you guys know what I'm talking about. All the real action is here!!

Just got mine, and I'm all for this.

I'm in also.

Me too....

I'd like to see one as well.

Please. Pretty Please.

Excellent idea! I'd read it!

i would also like to see an iris/s640 thread/forum..
and a 6.1 rom for it. pretty please.

I would love a shadow section

same here!

pretty please!

We've even started to cook roms and there is not section yet!!!

freyes01 said:
We've even started to cook roms and there is not section yet!!!
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Exactly... We need to move forward with this device. Having the Juno spread throughout the Smartphone general forum is time consuming and not very professional. Please mods, I beg of you. Take 5 minutes and please open us up a forum. As the device is rolled out more throughout the world, you will see more of a rush of readers looking to XDA-DEVELOPERS.com for information and modifications to make their Juno/Shadow/c750 their own.
Please, we beg of you... Oh Gods of the Smartphone Underworld...

The ROM Floating around for Kaiser used by us..

Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..

vikasraj said:
Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..
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It's all down to personal opinion, there are plenty ROM's to choose from, flash flash & flash till you find the one that you like...
You can aslo just check people sigs and the chefs get comments in there threads.

Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
Ta
Dave

I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...

vikasraj said:
I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...
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If everyone was as mature as you then we wouldn't have a problem, and we wouldn't need moderators
Until then we have to keep a close eye on these discussions before they decend into all out madness.
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Dave

I certainly agree this Dave...
Hats off to your work....

since ive been a member i personally think anyone who spends ther time to cook up and share with us all deserve a pat on back [or a donation how ever small]and like it says in first of any posts...search search...search

I recommend closing this thread... This is NOT a chat room... There are plenty of reading material in every Cooked ROM thread, that would enhance anybody's knowledge of which ROM people are using or not using and WHY...

My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?

theblueeyz said:
My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Have you tried the wiki page
Ta
Dave

Apologise to those who think of closing the post but my intension was jus to let every express the ROM they use cause not every one uses the ROM anD Radio VER on there signatures..
Also it would let know that who uses which ROM , I am sorry to see that this is driven into a conterversy ..

Trolling for regulars
vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.

Forum a dictionary meaning
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas
Did not the original message fall into this meaning.
By its very nature the posting of Roms is trying to compete with other roms.
So a thread that simply rates roms would be a good idea and give constructive comment and possibily the sort of feedback the rom builders are looking for and why they do what they do.
It would also help those that want to extend their experience, and not get frighten away by high minded comment.
Thats All

I suggest thread starter to just see the benchmarking of Kaiser ROM's done by one of Our friends out there in the kaiser forum. I will provide link whenever I get it but its better for now to search yourself for it. Go by facts & not by values. Hope it will help you. Good luck. I think we should move forward to help cookers in making ROM better.

Sorry but I could able to find only these ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358788
Hope that is going to help the posters in some way. Cheers my friends. Forum doesn't mean only discussions it means to work as a team to make great things out of our dumbo brains. Cheers & happy new year.
Br.
Saksham Katyal

mcstussy said:
vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.
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lol, funny stuff

msd24200 said:
lol, funny stuff
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I see that editing came into play...LOL. I read the original.
SHAMELESS Self Promotion below.....
for all of you that want a nice speedy, stable rom--come try this one out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463284

theblueeyz said:
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Yup - it already exists, here.
It doesn't say much about the roms, but it's a fairly comprehensive list.

DaveShaw said:
Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
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Dave
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Why are we doing this again ? I understand that people are (especially it seems the noobs ) incredibly lazy. No one wants to do their homework, no one wants to test drive. no one wants to think. Everyone wants someone else(no matter what their qualifications) to tell them what is the best.
The chefs here do not make these roms for you or me. They make these roms for the challenge and for themselves and then they share them with us. How offensive would it then be , to subject them to a competition .
It would be like going to a Hot Rod or Custom car show and judging people's hours , months or years of artistic and engineering work with a dismissive " that one sucks, not enough cup holders " guess what ? It wasn't built for you, it was shared with you. Your opinions are yours, why should chefs be forced to confront these ( mostly uninfomed opinions ) in a public forum.
Every rom has it's own thread to rate and evaluate the rom, and to try to work out whether it is the rom that is at fault or the user.That is more than enough discussion for the chefs to improve the rom.
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(the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell)
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Although getting some people to actually do this .........( with 7 total posts ) one wonders how much effort was put into identifying the source of these " bugs ."
These are the type of comments we want our chefs to be subject to on a concentrated thread ?
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vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who believe that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read
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I got A's in college , because I read and did my homework. Of course many others graduated too by using someone elses notes.
mcstussy said:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments
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Translation : It is all about me..me..me.. for free...free.. free.. To all you people who have contributed to this forum for years, if there is nothing that you can give me...me...me..now..now...now for free...free...free... then you all suck and keep your opinions to yourself.
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I have a life.
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And I am not wasting it doing *THIS*
Dave, if you are asking, I vote no, for subjecting our much appreciated chefs. to a beauty contest or prom king type thread for the benefit of the "lazy "
Just my opinion. Thanks for listening

this would be fine topic in the Kaiser generall forum. (alot of the people who hate these types of threads cluttering up the boards like myself dont generally read the generall forum very often I believe)
This isa rom DEVELOPMENT forum. Ie if your not either posting a new rom in development or about the process of cooking and development.....you should not start a new thread here. The Kaiser generall forum is a great place for this type of discussion.
also a good way to get a overall list of the most popular roms would be to sort this forum by how many posts a thread has....click at top. And that will continue to be useful as long as people only post new roms and development related topics in here.
This topic should be moved to the kaiser generall forum and it would be taken much better/ignored by the more senior members/admins

CDMA Diamond sub forum?

What would it take to get a CDMA Diamond sub forum. I have a rom that I've posted in the diamond upgrading forum before, but I get a bunch of GSM users trying to brick their phones with it. I'm sure I can guarantee at least 4 different chefs and two kitchens if you start a CDMA Diamond upgrading sub forum. Please.

I second the request!
GG

Count me in

+1, EXPAND xda

i agree totally.

Amen! Great idea.

indagroove said:
What would it take to get a CDMA Diamond sub forum. I have a rom that I've posted in the diamond upgrading forum before, but I get a bunch of GSM users trying to brick their phones with it. I'm sure I can guarantee at least 4 different chefs and two kitchens if you start a CDMA Diamond upgrading sub forum. Please.
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agreed, Id definitly like that

I will raise the request with the site admin. It may take a bit, but I will post any updates in this thread.

That would be great. Wherever you go Inda...we'll find you

NotATreoFan said:
I will raise the request with the site admin. It may take a bit, but I will post any updates in this thread.
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Thank you very much!

intxROM would be posted here as well.

I would post the updated Ultralite ROM and Kitchen too. At this point there are too many clueless GSM users in the Diamond forum who would flash my CDMA rom for me to want to support it at XDA. I don't want to post it at PPCGeeks either based on recent events.

NotATreoFan said:
I will raise the request with the site admin. It may take a bit, but I will post any updates in this thread.
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Thanks alot! Groove's request would be very well received by many members of this forum

I'd release here if there were a CDMA forum.
Count me in.

Go Chefs go....you all deserve the utmost respect which can not be censored!!!

A bit late to the request party, but I agree on the expansion too!
dja2k

I think this would be a great benefit to this forum.
Pretty please??

mod...thanks for the consideration.

Great idea Inda. not only would be it be beneficial to the CDMA users ( and GSM for that matter) but it also would be a great expansion for this site.

+∞
It would be great to have another place to share.
I'd post my WM6.5 ROM here under these circumstances.

[DEV][ROM][LEAK]Shooter_Sprint_WWE_1.07.651.1_Radio_radio_0.97.00. 0513_NV_SPCS_1.15

New rom on Sniper91's blog. Posted yesterday and for some today. This is for HTC EVO 3D.
Details ::
ro.build.version.release=2.3.3
ro.board.platform=msm8660
ro.product.brand=sprint
ro.product.name=htc_shooter
This rom is specifically for the DEVELOPERS AND CHEFS not for the normal end user do not try to install or flash it with any method u may think of
LINK ::
http://u.115.com/file/aqp1bn62
DEODEXED system/app folder
http://www.multiupload.com/PIO4FRKU3W

deodexed system /app folder added. let me know if u guys need anything else.

why you posted all this **** here?

You don't need to be a second 911sniper.

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You don't need to be a second 911sniper.
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lol i am not, I am just sharing his files ... and deejay whats wrong with posting the files here !!

tids2k said:
lol i am not, I am just sharing his files ... and deejay whats wrong with posting the files here !!
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it's just too much needless thread
you made 4 new threads in the last few days with leaked ROMs
are you working on them?
if not, than leave them. Devs, who want to make some Sense 3 port or 2.3.4 port, they usually know the 911sniper blog well

and one was the cha cha, thats a mdpi phone made just for facebook things, so pointless here

Guys, please stop flaming this guy for posting the leaks here. He just may have thought it might be useful to the devs.
I think he now knows that it most likely is not.
I appreciate his enthusiasm tho, even tho I know the devs already use the 911 blog.

appreciate you posting these rom leak's but please check if it could be ported to DHD or it is use full in any way in porting sense 3.0
We have too many rom's as it is running sense 3.0 non yet to become stable

What the hell is with XDA recently, everyone flaming each other, we devs are supposed to be working together not competing!

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What the hell is with XDA recently, everyone flaming each other, we devs are supposed to be working together not competing!
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I agree with you.....sad

samuel2706 said:
What the hell is with XDA recently, everyone flaming each other, we devs are supposed to be working together not competing!
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it's nice, that he wants to help the devs by letting them know, that there are new leaks, but there are somuch thread in dev section, that sometimes you can find your ROMon the 2nd, 3rd page
it should be more organized
for ex. making one thread, and just change the name when there is/are a new leak or new leaks
and in my opinion it's not development, as nobody is working on porting these. It's not a dev who created a thread to get help from other people to port something, it's more like news

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What the hell is with XDA recently, everyone flaming each other, we devs are supposed to be working together not competing!
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+1000!
Thats the first the i noticed comming from WinMO dev. Winmo chefs are helping eachother out alot. Ive learned from the greatest and ive shared alot of info and helped trying to keep the community strong.
Switching to Android an open source OS i expected everything to be easier and friendlier but sadly its not the case.
Chefs are competing and not willing to share or help out.
Winmo dev forums have pre made kitchens, tutorials etc.
Tons of Dev topics here but as soon as a dev question is asked its ignored or treated like youre asking about a x-file.

Mikenif said:
+1000!
Chefs are competing and not willing to share or help out.
Winmo dev forums have pre made kitchens, tutorials etc.
Tons of Dev topics here but as soon as a dev question is asked its ignored or treated like youre asking about a x-file.
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this is simply not true. just look at all the rom threads here and you will find thanks and credits to most of the other devs out here. they are all working together.
the reaction in and on this thread has nothing to do with what you said here.

This went the wrong way...
The point was not to flame the forum with useless leaks..
It would be great to make LEAK thread and than keep it uptodate..

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this is simply not true. just look at all the rom threads here and you will find thanks and credits to most of the other devs out here. they are all working together.
the reaction in and on this thread has nothing to do with what you said here.
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Im talking about the people not involved in that inner circle. They dont get a chance.
Ive send alot of chefs a pm about little issues i was having. only one that responded was Capychimp

Mikenif said:
Im talking about the people not involved in that inner circle. They dont get a chance.
Ive send alot of chefs a pm about little issues i was having. only one that responded was Capychimp
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funny. i have observed again the opposite. there are several new cooks here that got pretty fast help from anybody. in my case the only chef here that still enver replied to a pm was capychimp (not meant as offense, who knows why he didn't).
there never was an "inner circle".
but i must admit, that is what i observed during the past, myself not trying to start a rom myself. but i saw severel doing this.
but your claim only based on this small experience is to say the least very exagerating and provocative. to conlude that the devs here are not helping out and sticking to a inner circle just because you had bad luck with some pms is a bit... well you know what.
p.s. if you want a kind dev i can very recomend you lee.