[Q] HTC Android Magic 1.6. - General Topics

hi!
My friend bought a HTC magic from china, and have tried so many things in order to change the language of it to norwegian, he was 50% successfull to make it part english, but the phone seem to be semibricked, or partially functional.
wlan seem to work sometimes, (lacks MAC address) my guess is some files are deleted or corrupted.
the phone is in general slow as h***, using phone to call seems to work 50% of the time, sometimes nothing happen, and sometmes need to call twice
I cannot find out what version of the phone he had, 32A or 32B
cannot get into any menuys by holding voume down + power on, or home + poweron..., are there any other way to find out, what happens if I choose A if it is B, or vice versa?
Installing APK seems to work.
so waht should I do to recover this nice phone using cyanomogen?

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Please Help - Wifi Disabled

I jsut dicovered my new G4's wifi has been disabled by operator. Can anyone help to activate it? There is a red cross over the comm manager on today screen. Please help!!
Do I feel silly or what.
I got rid of the icon (and the whole tray) so I didn't remember, but the cross just means your WiFi is off (not flight mode as I said earlier), which is the default state. Open the comm manager (you can use the button on the left side of the phone) and tap the antenna icon. this will turn WiFi on.
Just in case I am wrong (phone operators don't like devices with WiFi because it reduces data usage by customers) hard reset your phone and quickly soft reset before customization is installed (there should be a 3 second countdown).
What the above poster said.
Or perhaps flash your phone with a new/clean ROM from e.g. qtek. (here)
But flashing the device is not really everyone their thing, so you need to figure out whether you wanna do that at all. Giving it a hardreset without installing the extra apps almost gives the same result.
But don't forget to use the 'ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe ' when you try to update, else you get an error. But that's all in the topic there. And don't forget to fully charge battery before update
(hey, this is the upgrading part of website no bad to lead people to the dark side eh? )
wifi
I have tried so many romes and none of them will turn on my wifi is there some trick I need to know about? did you fix your wifi?
Well, when using a different rom I guess the operater doesn't have that much to do with it anymore.
Just when you go into the com-manager you see an icon that looks like an antenna thingy with a little cross next to it. Just press it and there you have wifi (should become yellow without the cross).
That should be working standard with a 'normal' rom like the new qtek one. Connecting is another story though once the wifi is enabled (connecting with wifi is a bit tricky at times).
I flashed the qtek rom on my Dopod 830 (bought in China) successfully. However, the wifi on the comm manager still failed to activate. So the assumption (conclusion) is China Telecom simply removed the the wifi chip.
I think you may just have a faulty device.
To my knowledge, no phone company actually has the facility, or would bother with the enormous cost of modifying devices in such a way.
Could you be more specific as to what happens? I have a feeling there is a big misunderstanding here somewhere.
You press the button on the side, the comm manager comes up, you click the icon with an antenna and...
a) noting happens.
b) error message pops up.
c) wait cursor (circle with 4 colors) appears, but the button remains with the x.
d) non of the above.
I think you may have rushed a bit with flashing different ROMs. Try putting the original ROM back, without the extended ROM and see what happens.
Thanks levenum! My problem is (c), there is a waiting sign and the icon remained x. The original rom is in simplified chinese CHS and now I am having the 2.20.7.34 wwe with everything running fine except wifi. Will try to flash back to a CHS rom and see what is happening.
Well that does sound like a hardware / driver problem, but it is more likely a fault than intentional deactivation.
Is the phone under warranty by chance?
If so, once you have the original ROM you might try getting it repaired in the lab.
Also check the phone details on the site of your phone company. Do they state this model has WiFi or do they 'conveniently' omit it.
I checked with China Telecom and Dopod, they said the wifi chip has been removed. I am not sure how they can remove the chip but many phones selling in China have got wifi removed. How can I know the wifi is physically removed or is jsut deactivated?
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I checked with China Telecom and Dopod, they said the wifi chip has been removed. I am not sure how they can remove the chip but many phones selling in China have got wifi removed. How can I know the wifi is physically removed or is jsut deactivated?
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I have exactly the same problem with you, as I searched the forum, some poster tell that Dopod from China mobile, the wifi chip is factory removed.
Does anyone have the schematic of the full-function prophet, so i could locate the wifi chip position, so i can upgrade my Dopod 830 by hardware way
thanks

Gigabyte gsmart i300 running WM6 eng

yup Windows Mobile 6 pro is running on the i300 the (free upgrade from gigabyte)
http://www.gigabytecm.com/Turkey/WM6/
http://www.gigabytecm.com/turkey/WM6/download/GSmarti300_V2.02.04_ENG-Turkey.zip
so far so good
Working good the update?
No problems at al?
one thing i noticed of the bat was MS active sync program is slow.... i guess they have to fix it up, when its doing the sync its taking a lot longer, and if it doesnt work with outlook, i found the fix and this was for wm5 and wm6 is that in outlook if you download all your mail and then hit the sync button, in outlook it will then work with active sync, its a known issue i think with some older outlook ver :/
but ya right now with wm6 it lags a bit in the connection activation, i think as far as the speed its the same speed as before, its just annoying, i might try the active sync beta that is out
the os seems more responsive, i have yet to test the gps and wifi or IE
I can get working GPS
SiRFDemoPPC.zip dl that from the manu run it until u get signal if not, in settup switch to binary mode and do a col reset or reset manu settings then switch back to nmea, it can take a while, play around with it, i know that if i can get a lock with that program then i can get lock with others after i exit this one
oh the device on i300 is GSW3
Hi, just a few questions.....is the I300 as a phone any good?....is the call quality on both ends clear etc?.....and also the back speaker, is it loud?.....i am looking at getting this phone but i would like to know the above first if anyone can answer these questions for me......also does anyone know the correct gps settings to get tomtom 6 to work?.......thanks in advance!!!
Cheers
irv777
as far as quality i think its same as any other phone quality... no diff from my other phone, (moto v300) the speaker is a loud speaker ya you can play games or mp3s etc... and its loud enough IMO, but there is only so much volume and quality of something of that size, regardless of phone IMO unless a phone has stereo, but this and most phones is mono 1 speaker, the headset is stereo and BT can be stereo too
Thanks for the reply, what about tomtom 6?.....does it work with this phone and what are the ps settings to get a proper fix?.......thanks again in advance.
i havent tried tomtom6 but some ppl have i believe on this device, IMO should work just fine
http://www.gsmarena.com/gigabyte_g_smart_i300-1817.php
yeah i was just reading some reviews on it from the gsmarena website.....how are you finding the battery life though?......is battery life better with WM6 or WM5, any differences?....thanks
well i really want the 1300mah battery, but i havent been able to see one, maybe they will release one later, or some other third party will
wm6 i think might give better battery life but mostly on idle or low activity, if you run anything intensive then i dont think there is anything that will save your battery hehe the charging seems faster or it could be just me
and for the rest i think you have to get some nice tweaking util to really optimize any PPC, i for one havent bothered much... everything is installed on my miniSD card
i think since its a free upgrade its quite worth it, all the small changes to all the apps is big
i cant really say a whole lot for wm5 vs wm6 becaues i havent been using either one long enough, some other vets could have a diff opinion im sure
i think its sad that any PPC if you use anything like Wifi, GPS or if you had a TV it kills the battery life very quick... same for if you try to run something that takes up all the resources (cpu) it does about the same... i was playing the sega emu and it did drain battery life but not as bad as wifi, gps does, mp3 playback takes even less cpu, as far as movies i dont know but i think it would be a little more then mp3 depending what its encoded i think
but for movies i can use my cowon D2 PMP
btw my i300 came with 2x 900mah batteries i dont know about others but most ppl said so, those that they got from ebay
could anyone export the i300WM6 registry and post it here, please?
GPS icon in settings > connections
I have enabled GPS icon in settings > connections. Programs now can not use built in GPS. Could you please post the registry keys and values in the following location:
HKLM\Control Panel\Gps Settings\
Thanks.
How do I get the voicemail indicator to work on my Gigabyte i300? I am using ATT and it doesn't ever tell me about new voicemails nor waiting voicemails.
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I have enabled GPS icon in settings > connections. Programs now can not use built in GPS. Could you please post the registry keys and values in the following location:
HKLM\Control Panel\Gps Settings\
Thanks.
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Sorry balikci, just saw your post today.
I did not upgrade my i300 (so, English WM5 firmware so far).
There is not such an entry (HKLM\Control panel\GPS Settings\) in my registry file!
GPS is not working with Wm6 firmware version?
GPS works perfectly fine in wm6, also the think outside ultra slim BT keyboard does work with this device you need 4.52 driver i think and disable the standard devices hid driver or so... its a check box when you run it for the first time, and then it works just right
I300 seems to have over exposure issue with the camera in wm5 and wm6, in very bright sunny area, after the first picture all pics are over exposed, if you close the app and start the first picture works perfectly but others that fallow do not... it must be a driver/software issue
could somebody help me with taking device into bootloader mode? i want to upgrade to WM6
in it's official website , it says you need to push Send End and power key , while the device is off.
first , what is send and end keys? green and red ones?
second , which one is power key? the suspend key or the soft reset hole key?
third , what does it mean by turning device off ? suspend it or turn it off completely , if so how?
and , is this ROM
http://www.gigabytecm.com/Eng/gbc_supportdetail.aspx?sid=26
WWE , i heard there are certain parts non english , which is okey , but if you know of any full WWE link , please let me know
cheers
king_dani, Send (green) is what you use to aswer a call, End (red) is what you press to end a call. Power key's the suspend key. Turning device off means turning it off compleatly, just hold the power key to turn the device off. The rom you gave the link to is WWE.
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king_dani, Send (green) is what you use to aswer a call, End (red) is what you press to end a call. Power key's the suspend key. Turning device off means turning it off compleatly, just hold the power key to turn the device off. The rom you gave the link to is WWE.
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thnx alot man , so at least i know i'm pushing the right keys. well i tried these combination , in completely shut down device , still, it turns on and won't go into bootloader mode , for some yet unknown reason. plus , do you know if i should empty the whole card ? or can i use a partially loaded miniSD card? i mean , would it work if there are other files on it , and also , should they files be on root folder?
cheers
try another combination: turn the device on, hold Send and End keys, do a soft reset (don't release send and end buttons!), wait for Image Utility. All files from a downloaded archive should be placed in a root folder (/Storage card). It's Ok if there're files on a card.

wifi spits in bluetooths eye

Hi all wondering if anyone can shed some light on this one:
i recently bought a htc kaiser (yay) and its great! but i cant get wifi and bluetooth to work simultaneously in any way shape or form - every time i connect the wifi, the bluetooth connections will die - so far ive tested it with multiple devices and its a consistent problem
i even sent the unit back for a replacement but they tested it and said it was fine (i don't believe them cause i tried every which way to get it working) either way ive got the unit back now and i still cant get both to work at the same time - ARGH!!
if i cant get the bastard to work in the next week or so im going to return the unit as its inside the 28 day period - i just wanna be able to stream music from the net over wifi and listen to it using my a2dp headset
anyone have any guru zen insight on this one they feel like sharing?
cheers
fusi
must be a kaiser or rom thing cause i do it all the time at home with the hermes (go hermes go!!!)
have the wifi running fine with AD2P via motorola Ht820s
My Kaiser does both WiFi & BT with no issues. The only thing I can suggest is tinkering with your WiFi access point settings (change the channel, encryption, etc.) -- in particular, channel changes may do the trick, as both BT & 802.11b use the 2.4 GHz band.
thanks for the replies guys i swear im going loopy with this thing - what wifi channels can you confirm it works on for you?
well ive tried every permutation. it doesnt work - supergps are talking out of their arse when they claim they got it working. im really sick and tired of bull**** companies. dont buy from supergps - they might be cheap but you get what you pay for.
Why don't you try asking supergps what they did to get it working and how they have their wifi configured? Sounds to me like it's something in your setup that's causing it if they confirm the device works.
i did
they claim they connected up a lenovo laptop and a sony phone and it 'just worked'
i tried it with the exact same make model etc of kit (and a whole host of other devices (must be about 30+ different devices now)) and it consistently fails
i cant see how they got it working - unless they were testing a different unit or they didn't understand what the fault was - even though i explained the fault in precise detail in about 5 different ways to them over the duration of the day they were testing it
i reckon they just dont wanna deal with the hassle of getting a duff device back
p.s. this is with factory defaults - no customisations or anything (though ive also tried with every permutation of configuration i could conceive) - it just doesnt work

Can't turn on the bluetooth

hello,
unfortunately i cannot turn on the bluetooth from comm manager, it turns on and after 1 second is off again.
any solution for this problem?
thanks.
I have had this problem before and unfortunately am having it again. Only solution I have ever found for this is a hard reset and then reinstalling all your apps. If you try to restore from a backup from Sprite Backup, for instance, the problem remains. This would lead me to believe that it's a setting or a registry issue somewhere but I haven't been able to locate exactly what would be causing it and don't know enough about programming in WM to write something to figure it out.
Not a great answer but there it is.
db
MegaHz said:
hello,
unfortunately i cannot turn on the bluetooth from comm manager, it turns on and after 1 second is off again.
any solution for this problem?
thanks.
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Hi, I have a Uk version of the touch cruise and I have the same problem. I just did a hard reset but the problem remains. Turning bluetooth on is impossible. It just try's to turn it on and shuts it off immediately.
Maybe it has something to do with GPRS? I am always connected to the internet. I tried to disconnect but then bluetooth still doesn't work. Can anyone help? Thnx!
No one has a clue?
I had this prob with bluetooth and wifi following the use of wmwifirouter- after hard reset and no wmwifi all goes well...
On a French SFR rom
any other idea?
Same problem... beginning to wish I'd gone all Apple and bought an iPhone. Anyway.... To trun it on, I had to go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>Mode>Turn on Bluetooth. That worked despite the Comm Manager still showing Bluetooth as "off".
It only connects 1/2 the time to my headset or handsfree in the car
Otherwise, the phone crashes only once a day! Great! Thanks!
ok, great to see more people having the same problem but i hope that someone has a sollution...
When I try to turn bluetooth on in the communications settings i get a message saying there is a hardware error! :S
Ohw btw, I'm not using any router programs or other and my WIFI works fine.
has anybody of you having this problem tried to change to another rom?
if yes? did this worked?
any news on this?
No news, I don't want to try for a different rom because i don't think it will change anything. It just seems like its a faulty device which is a real shame. I've already contacted the place where i bought it and see if i can get a new one.
I also have problems with my microphone during calls, photo camera does often not work and the touchpad reacts very slowly to my touches. Very annoying!!!!
Yup, am returning mine to HTC aswell. Not even sure I want it back. WiFi stopped working too, and then it stopped receiving text messages, and everyone said they couldn't hear me when I called them. Great
Some of you guys got a bad device, there are thousands out there working properly.
If some of you guys flashed a newer Radio, the one form the test-ROM, then this is your problem.
And some of you guys have a quite gay branded ROM (slow responsiveness of touchpad). The original HTC ROM on the FTP and even more so a cooked ROM would solve alot of your problems. But be aware, flashing without having a backup ready is going to void your warranty if you want to exchange it having a custom/non-original ROM on the device.
What's up Schaggo
I am experiencing the same problem these gentlemen are mentioning and my ROM is not gay or lesbian. It is the original one.
TC is my 7th HTC device and I can see the quality of the ROMs decreasing a lot on every new device. I feel like HTC needs a real competitor to move up its arse quicker.
All I can say is that it really annoys me to hard reset this [email protected] everytime I "accidentally" use a native feature called Flight Mode. By bluetooth seems to fly away and never get back.
Lots of time the GPRS settings have to be reconfigured too. Some people I know have problems with GMail IMAP4 accounts when sending messages after some time. I never had this problem on my Kaiser neither on my Niki.
The lack of a video driver really is an egg on our faces, because I can't believe my ole Qtek 9100 responds quicker than these "all the bells and whistles" Qualcomm 7200 super-duper geared up devices.
So, if you feel like not contributing, please do not mess around.
Your signature tells me you are a wise man, but your comments show me otherway.
-Feaps
PB of BT still there with custom rom
MegaHz said:
has anybody of you having this problem tried to change to another rom?
if yes? did this worked?
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Hi
I've tried many custom rom and the PB continue. "PB with the hardware oh BT".
Hard reset doent change anything.
my initial rom (SFR France) was working
custom rom (blackwidow + Bepe 058) are buging...
nedd some help !
Thanks alot for that input feaps. I guess I have to clarify a little bit.
My answer was supposed to be pointing in different directions. The first and general information I tried to contribute was, that it is not a common Polaris problem to have a broken Bluetooth unit. Which doesn't help at all to ppl affected, but it should tell them, that they probably got a bad device and should exchange it first before blameing htc in general and shouting for an iPhone.
It only was partially directed at specific persons. At madinga for example: did you try hardresetting your device? It could be a corruption in your system which causes all those problems. I doubt it though, if you suffer the loss of so many functions at the same time I suspect the mainboard to be broken. But nonetheless, hardreset it, see if its working, BEFORE you put your backup back on the device again since that could restore the corruption. If it doesnt work, exchange your unit, I hope you'll get a working one back.
My second line was directed at all people which have overwritten their original Radio with the 1.58.25.14 originating from the HTC Test ROM which can be found on the ftp server. The Bluetooth part of that Radio is flawed and leads to the problems described in this thread. I quite nicely pointed that out and told people where to have a look before shouting around. I do know that because I tried it myself and couldnt get my Bluetooth devices working. Once I flashed the original Radio back, my BT problems were gone.
And my third line - in which I may chose the wrong words, 'gay' for example - holds information targeted at people with for example the branded french SFR ROM or the original HTC french ROM. The SFR ROM is just horribly branded and if you go through the threads here you'll find people complaining about problems which then turn out to be related to the ROM. The french HTC ROM is flawed as well, it has severe problems with the volume control. I don't exactly remember what it was, but it's a flawed ROM, thats for sure. The German o2 ROM isnt flawless either, I know that because I originally had that ROM. Once I flashed my orbit 2 with the original HTC WWE ROM, I found it to be working alot better and smoother than with the o2 ROM originally provided. And this is where my last line comes into play: if you suffer problems related to your currently flashed ROM, they could be diminished by flashing an alternative ROM. But if your device is broken, and I personally and strongly believe that everybody fooling around in this forum should be intelligent enough and able to determine the sense of my words, eg. if he/she suffers a ROM problem or if the device just simply is dead and take appropriate actions.
And now to your contribution feaps. I feel personally attacked by your words. Thats why I defended my words in all the paragraphs above. Trust me, I've had enough mobile devices of all sorts to know what it means to get a not working once. Its frustrating and makes you want to throw it out of the window. And being able to see the quality decrease over time is just another drop on a hot stone. I agree. But be honest, if your BT unit works and stopps working once you engage a software based function, the problem is software related, dont you think? As for the GPRS settings, I cant tell. Since I use a free ROM which has the wizard built in (o2 removed it from their ROM) I didnt switch my SIM and the configuration worked, automatically and every single time. And I do use IMAP as well on my personal E-Mail account. Until now I didnt run across any problems, so I cant give you any feedback on that either.
So rethink again if I mess around or not or if I actually try to contribute and help the freshmen, coming into this forum and flashing whatever they find and breaking their devices. And recommending to flash the original HTC ROM, which should be/is the base for everything floating around, breaking your devices, is a serious input to everybody.
Edit: I forgot to add, pointed at nooms, there are cooked ROMs out there which stupidly have the new, flawed Radio baked in. Which Radio are you on? Try Start > Settings > Tab System > Device Information > Tab Version. Are you inadvertedly still on Radio 1.58.25.14 or back to (original) 1.58.21.23?
Hi everyone,
I agree with Schaggo completely. Most of the time problems have something to do with the software on the device. But I a not a tweaker like most of you guys, i've just bought my first (and hopefully not last) HTC phone. If i have problems of some kind, all i can do is reset the thing. A hard reset if necessary. I've done that many times. I can't change the software that comes standard and i don't think i should be the one who has to do that. Shouldnt HTC be doing that??
Anyway, Bluetooth keeps saying it has an hardware error. My radio version is a standard 1.58.21.23 but isnt finding any radiostations here in holland. Is it also broken? (sorry, i know, its a bit off topic)
You're right
schaggo said:
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My answer was supposed to be pointing in different directions.
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And now to your contribution feaps. I feel personally attacked by your words.
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But be honest, if your BT unit works and stopps working once you engage a software based function, the problem is software related, dont you think?
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As for the GPRS settings, I cant tell. Since I use a free ROM which has the wizard built in (o2 removed it from their ROM) I didnt switch my SIM and the configuration worked, automatically and every single time. And I do use IMAP as well on my personal E-Mail account. Until now I didnt run across any problems, so I cant give you any feedback on that either.
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So rethink again if I mess around or not or if I actually try to contribute and help the freshmen, coming into this forum and flashing whatever they find and breaking their devices.
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Well put. Sorry for being rude, but I keep seeing people offending others day after day in this forum that used to be high level; but that doesn't mean I should act the same way.
I totally misread you and please accept my apologies.
My ROM is: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM Date: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04H
One thing I could notice is that HTC has a flaw in the Flush HKCU to Permanent Memory While Shutting Down. Some keys are not written.
One example is the MagiCall (an app I use) registration key. The software maker had to write a flush app for doing that. Another example is the Start>Settings>System>Error reporting. No matter what you chose, after a power cycle or a soft reset, it always go back to "Disable...".
I have, also, already tested the device after the hard reset with no extra apps on it. Same lame behavior on BT...
So, SW QA levels are really dropping fast on new HTC models. That is pretty bad.
But anyway, I have an open case with HTC and if I find something contributive I will toch base with this thread.
Once again, sorry for being rude.
Best,
-Feaps
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Anyway, Bluetooth keeps saying it has an hardware error. My radio version is a standard 1.58.21.23 but isnt finding any radiostations here in holland. Is it also broken? (sorry, i know, its a bit off topic)
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Then I guess you most probably got a bad unit. I guess the only solution at this time is an exchange.
The Radio-Firmware doesnt control the FM Radio btw The Radio-Firmware controls connections to the providers network, Wireless LAN and Bluetooth. But the FM Radio seems to be really bad in the Polaris, a lot of ppl I know complain about it.
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No problem dude! There is no need for such an excessive appology. We are in a Forum and people have different oppinions and I think its totally acceptable to shout at each other. I just wanted to express that I'm not in accord regarding your judgement of my post. But thanks a lot, I seriously really appreciate it!
Yes, your device seems pretty standard to me and the scenario you described logically made me think of a software error. But this seems very unlikely now. I'm out of ideas for the moment then, I guess you have to return or exchange it too.
You are perfectly right about the dropping SW QA though. You can notice the registry glitch in other areas as well: backlight timer always reset to 30 sec, and there are more settings all over the place which don't get saved properly.
Again, no problem, everybody lets be cool
Bluetooth doesn't turn on
I have the same problem. Did anyone find a solution?
Also camera fails to initialize, touch pad is sometimes very slow for initial reaction. I have NO added programs beyond manafacturer originals and have tried a number of hard resets. Doesn't help.
Jeremy

Thoughts on Vario IV

Hi all,
Since its now out and people have them (inc myself!) I thought I'd start a new thread with initial thoughts etc
I like the feel of the unit it feels more solid than my Vario II
I synced all my contacts and texts etc but havent used it to make calls etc yet so cant comment here but the sync was as expected
The phone itself looks great -its a shame the touch-flo is so t-mobile but thats to be expected
I'll probably buy a spare battery once im sure im happy with it (I have a spare with my vario II)
so far I've only installed tomtom 7 (athough there is co-pilot data on the SD Card??)
anywho so far happy but early days!!
J
No opera only IE installed I'll look for an opera cab!!
Are there any significant issues with the latest opera beta?
I see loads of threads relating to it
Should I get the stable build (8.5?) or use the beta?
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
The main difference that I can see is that it doesn't have the Favourites (in a circle arrangement) on the far left of the TouchFlo panel and I also seem to remember it looking slightly different as well. I know T-mobile test each phone before they send them out - could they have updated the software through USB but not touched the ROM? Seems like the most likely option IMO.
In respect of the device, so far I'm very impressed with the Vario's speed.
I'm comparing it to the MDA Compact IV I had for a week last year - the extra RAM definitely seems to make a noticeable difference.
Edit:
After Hard Reset:
ROM Version: 1.69.110.8 WWE
ROM Date: 08/21/08
Radio Version: 1.02.25.19
Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U
Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
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Just ordered mine from T Mobile today - at leat the CSR knew (without prompting) it was called the Vario IV, even if they had none in stock!
Re the CoPilot - I have been a long time user of CP6 (came with my Compact II) - is it useable? And did you specify it when ordering, or do you think its inclusion (given your hard reset) is an oversight by T-Mobile?
CoPilot Live is 7 Day Trial
Version
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset
JonathanCassar said:
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset
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Opera is Version 9.5, build 1522.
There is CAB file in the Windows folder to install Opera, when I first Hard reset the device and tried running it, it did not work. I think there's another file (registry?) that needs running to activate it but I quickly gave up and just reset the thing to see what would happen!
Does your TouchFlo have Favourites on the left of the Home tab?
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
screen print
I dont think so..
my homepage is attached
hard reset?
Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
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How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..
JonathanCassar said:
How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..
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Oh really? Another way of doing it is Start--Settings--System--Clear Storage.
The front screen you have is the same as mine now. When I get a chance I'll call up tech support to find out if they have an update.
I did the latter option and it worked thanks
Just Resyncing and putting on texts etc and then I'll play with co-pilot!
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Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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must some other issue as the match is on the last digits.
NREYNOLDS said:
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched.
As nice as the phone is, there a few things that are driving me crazy and I have a feeling I'm going to return it:
* Pressing left/right on the DPad requires you to press in exactly the right area otherwise you hit the call/home/hangup/back keys which is incredibly frustrating.
* No dedicated hardware keys to launch applications. I know you can configure double/triple clicks on the call/hangup keys but it doesn't work too well. You can't configure long presses on these keys
* Can't configure double/triple/long presses of the home or back keys
* Lack of hardware softkeys means I'm unable to use Sky Mobile (the java app) which, for some reason, doesn't work if you press the softkeys on the screen. Although I don't use this that often, it's incredibly useful to have.
I really don't like using Windows Mobile and having to rely on the touchscreen for everything as it's not really designed for finger operation alone. The hardware keys on the Wizard and Kaiser made them really easy to use but I can see I'm not going to get on with this :-( If only I hadn't smashed the screen on my Kaiser!
agree with most of your comments antlane, I will be calling tmobile to return one of my two handsets, I have to say the battery life on this phone is so poor. After a full charge took it off 6am this morning by 12 it had 30% left. It will not last a day for me.
International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised
antlane said:
I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched
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@antlane you're a hero. I searched this forum and Google high and low before finding this answer. I've made the adjustment now (to 9 digits seems to work for me in the UK) and life is back to normal
For the purposes of being able to find this fix easily from web searching:
Problem: International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised (in my case HTC Touch Pro/Raphael/Vario IV)
Solution: Use Schapp's Advanced Config to adjust number of digits matched (under 'phone' section).
As far as your other comments go, I too have mixed feelings about lack of hard buttons (especially for scroll, messaging and camera). But, in balance I am very impressed with TFL3D - it's really integrated well with the OS and provides functionality on top (e.g. remembering what track you were listening to before soft reset unlike WMP). It's fast and gives you the kind of look and feel that I expect from such a capable handset. Also like: keyboard, screen and soft keyboard options. Don't like: excessive T-mobile branding on TFL3D, lack of plain Opera option in programs (only WebnWalk), lack of 3.5mm headphone jack (adapter city still).
Thanks again @antlane
Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.
NREYNOLDS said:
Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.
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While I don't doubt this fix works for the phone, why on earth should we have to resort to a third party program to get a basic feature of EVERY phone made in the last 10 years or so??
My Vario II could identify a number if it had a +447 or 07 prefix..why can't my shiny new toy??
I've been dealing with T-Mobile customer support and then the tech support team as well over the last couple of days.
So far I've been told to remove any duplicate contacts from the phone memory (there weren't any) then copy all contacts from my SIM over to the phone memory...and erase all SIM contacts when that didn't work!
The last thing they've suggested is that my SIM (which is about 8/9 years old) is not supplying enough voltage (3 volts as opposed to 5 volts of modern SIMs) so they're sending me a new SIM card tomorrow. Apparently (and it made me laugh) this is a common Windows Mobile fault!
Has anyone heard of this "fault" or is this typical tech support BS??!?
Vario IV and Parrot BT
Something else thats frustrating me is that the Vario wont pair fully with my Rythum and Blue stereo in the car.
All other HTC devices (going back to the universal) pair in such a way that contacts and call history sync with the car stereo
The vario IV does connect but wont sync
Annoying as the Object push profile is supported by the phone
I'll probably still keep the phone just use it less in car for calls

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