I'm a bit disappointed since my DZ didn't come with a TV out cable. Actually, I can't say for sure that the Desire Z has TV Out via cable, does anyone know?
Would be a shame, if that's the case.
I suppose HTC wants us to use that soon to be available DLNA media dock thingee, for those of us that don't have a DLNA device.
but I'm wondering if there's hope for us cheapies? maybe a micro usb to mini usb adapter connected to mini usb video cable? or possibly the cable for the incredible?
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-droid-incredible-tv-out-cable-review.html
Interesting how when I connect my nokia Tv cable it's recognized as a headset
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I suppose HTC wants us to use that soon to be available DLNA media dock thingee, for those of us that don't have a DLNA device.
but I'm wondering if there's hope for us cheapies? maybe a micro usb to mini usb adapter connected to mini usb video cable? or possibly the cable for the incredible?
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Nothing to do with being cheap. You don't need to take the blame on this one. DLNA is like the stuff of Apple-land and 3DTV.
Its supposed to be a standard, but you cannot guarantee your DLNA device will work exactly the same as another, or that it will talk to your DLNA extender. Even if it does 'work' you are likely to have to configure something.
Its like pretending to take a step forward, while you take 3 steps back. Which is easier - trying to connect to some DLNA device, or plugging in a cable? Which will give you the more reliable connection - DLNA or a cable? What do we have in most board rooms? A cable. How many boardrooms have a DLNA extender? Zero. Its completely stupid. [/RANT]
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i have a burning question for all of you android/HTC experts out there....please help me
i intend to buy the sensation but i want to know:will i be able to connect it to a tv ?
the problem in my case is that my tv (and in fact none of those i could have access to) has a hdmi (or usb) port.
Therefore the only remaining option would be through a RCA cable.
I found on ebay a rca- usb cable... no boxes no nothing ...just the wire and the connectors...price about 5 $.. (i'm sorry i cant post the link.....)
will it work?
why not? i know rca is analog and usb is digital... hence my dilemma
i also know the sensation can do TV-out via MHL A/V link,but MHL is only going to work on the latest types of tvs....right?
sensationvsgalaxy said:
i have a burning question for all of you android/HTC experts out there....please help me
i intend to buy the sensation but i want to know:will i be able to connect it to a tv ?
the problem in my case is that my tv (and in fact none of those i could have access to) has a hdmi (or usb) port.
Therefore the only remaining option would be through a RCA cable.
I found on ebay a rca- usb cable... no boxes no nothing ...just the wire and the connectors...price about 5 $.. (i'm sorry i cant post the link.....)
will it work?
why not? i know rca is analog and usb is digital... hence my dilemma
i also know the sensation can do TV-out via MHL A/V link,but MHL is only going to work on the latest types of tvs....right?
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It will work on any lcd or led tv which has a hdmi port(and as u stated ur tv has one),so it will definately work,normal hdmi cable or the cable which u have mentioned will not work,the official hdmi cable including mhl adaptor is available here:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-sensation-mhl-hdmi-out-cable-ac-m490-p29367.htm?referer=aff_aw_102463
Regards....
sorry i meant to say my tv does not have hdmi or usb...
so i guess i'll have to do without....
thanks though....
So there is absolutely nothing i could do to connect the sensation to a tv using rca conectors????
nothing money could buy??
Since HDMI is digital and RCA is analog, you would need a converter box. Something like this could do it:
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Composite-S-Video-Converter-3RCA/dp/B0047PDBP0
thank you very much.....
Hi,
often I want to sort my videos recorded by the PVR with my Tablet (ed.: Easier seek and rename)
and watch it also on my big TV via HDMI (less complicated atm then to stream it).
So I need the USB-Stick connected to it and the HDMI, too.
Is there some kind of adapter providing this with the SGN10.1 ?
Regards
Splotz
Not possible ?
ed.:
I found the pinout of the SGT10.1.
edit: Its SGT 7", but maybe the same pinout
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14612129
Looks like it could be possible to use "all" things..
Hope there will come a dock or keyboard dock to use it like a full port netbook.
Or is there already a multimedia dock available ?
Don't think so.
Something like that for the Note 10.1... wanna have...
http://www.pocketables.com/2010/08/dell-streaks-proprietary-connector-is-actually-pdmi.html
(these pins are different, but it should be easy to build something similiar if samsung did not "lock it down" in some way)
ed.:
Here is something about how to build your own cables.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065
The only thing I really liked about asus TF300 was the ability to easily connect usb hdd (even ntfs) to the dock while it was connected to TV through micro-hdmi. I set up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and managing the tablet on the tv was a peace of cake. But I returned it because the performance sucks on TF300. I really wish there were some similar dock for the note tab too.
mano42 said:
The only thing I really liked about asus TF300 was the ability to easily connect usb hdd (even ntfs) to the dock while it was connected to TV through micro-hdmi. I set up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and managing the tablet on the tv was a peace of cake. But I returned it because the performance sucks on TF300. I really wish there were some similar dock for the note tab too.
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I think the Note can connect to the allshare cast dongle with is wireless mirroring. To basically the same thing. Or if you have a newer Samsung tv it connects wirelessly. to it as well.
Not sure if you can connect a usb hdd to the Note though through the usb connector.
Nefariouss said:
I think the Note can connect to the allshare cast dongle with is wireless mirroring. To basically the same thing. Or if you have a newer Samsung tv it connects wirelessly. to it as well.
Not sure if you can connect a usb hdd to the Note though through the usb connector.
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Thx, thats true.
But I am looking for hardware connectors for HDMI, USB, Charging and Audio at the same time. Like a "real" Multimedia Docking Station / Cable.
Usable everywhere with HDMI TVs, etc...
(Maybe the SGN10.1 has also analog TV+Audio out as I saw some adapters for Galaxy Tab with these connectors)
Soo, it's half a year later... I'm looking for the same solution as the OP... I want to be able to connect my Note to a HDMI monitor, then have at least 2 usb ports (mouse and keyboard, third one would be nice) and be able to charge it at the same time. I'm looking online for a cable that would allow that but it seems impossible. Is there any hope for Note to be an interactive center?
There is one solution though... I could buy the wireless hdmi dongle, then bluetooth mouse and keyboard (does Note support 2 devices through BT at the same time?) and thus leave the charging port free but that's not so good option considering that I wouldn't be able to plug even USB stick through such setting. Still, that would cost a lot more than I'm willing to pay for it since I don't have BT keyboard nor mouse and the wifi gadget is too expensive if you ask me.
hdmi and usb at same time?
the diagam posted under 'build your own cables' shows all the connections on the 30 pin connector, but doesnt yet show which wires hook to an hdmi cable, or how to hook up hdmi.
further confusing is the fact that none of the labels for the pins on the samsung connector match any of the signals listed in the hdmi Wiki page.
would someone who has opened an hdmi adapter or dock please post wiring info for an hdmi hookup?
please? or perhaps high res photos of both sides of a dock connector board?
wondering if anyone has used a miniusb to hdmi cable for their touchpad to play on their tv.
I'm asking because I did this on my toshiba thrive and I'm hooked now :S and want to do same with touchpad if possible
I can find some cable/adapter fairly cheap online so if it works, i'd get one
something like this http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B000TYL27M since I already have a hdmi cable so no need to buy another if an adapter would work
edit: i'm also wondering because a quick search said it wasn't possible but i also see this page that lists product as working with touchpad :S http://www.uzid.com/wholesale-hp-touchpad-hdmi-micro-to-hdmi-lcd-3ft-adapter-cable-cord-link-1.html
What you are looking for is USB MHL since the Touchpad has no HDMI port only micro USB, but the Touchpad does not support this feature.
hm ok thanks , maybe i'll look into those hmdi android dongles i see in marketplace then.
eyeb said:
wondering if anyone has used a miniusb to hdmi cable for their touchpad to play on their tv.
I'm asking because I did this on my toshiba thrive and I'm hooked now :S and want to do same with touchpad if possible
I can find some cable/adapter fairly cheap online so if it works, i'd get one
something like this http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B000TYL27M since I already have a hdmi cable so no need to buy another if an adapter would work
edit: i'm also wondering because a quick search said it wasn't possible but i also see this page that lists product as working with touchpad :S http://www.uzid.com/wholesale-hp-touchpad-hdmi-micro-to-hdmi-lcd-3ft-adapter-cable-cord-link-1.html
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The USB port on the HP Touchpad is barely USB OTG host compliant to connect USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, flash memory, etc. It is not USB HML capable, meaning there is no circuitry available to route video out the DATA+ / DATA- wires of the USB port.
There is no USB Dongle, or cable, that can do what you want. HP Touchpad does not support USB to HDMI.
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The USB port on the HP Touchpad is barely USB OTG host compliant to connect USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, flash memory, etc. It is not USB HML capable, meaning there is no circuitry available to route video out the DATA+ / DATA- wires of the USB port.
There is no USB Dongle, or cable, that can do what you want. HP Touchpad does not support USB to HDMI.
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I think he means to get an android tv dongle. They are little android devices with HDMI out and usb input, usually one of those 1Ghz A10 processors and 1Gb RAM. Neat little things, but my phone has MHL.
the mk802 is what you're talking about. there are a bunch of new versions comming out all the time. http://rikomagic.co.uk/forum, and http://miniand.com/forum are good places to get support and talk about these new devices.
Too bad we can't have HDMI out, Touchpad would do well as replacement for my media player
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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It is certainpy possible with a pc. You could use a raspberry pi as a "converter" so you can output to your tv
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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If your device has MHL (Like the HTC EVO 3D), you have HDMI out through the USB port.
You just need an MHL adapter. Other than that, if your phone does not support HDMI out, it won't have it.
USB to HDMI?
You mean hdmi to USB correct? I used this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI8IMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
to connect a monitor to my PC via USB 3.0 (has worked like a charm for weeks now.
They are designing a new one, or perhaps it's already out. Search ianker.com if you are looking for something similar.
#UP:
I use the same Very good conventer
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
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In the generic sense, no. As noted above, some mobile devices have USB-style connectors that support MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link), which allow low-cost cables to support HDMI output and/or USB.
For PCs (Windows, Macs and Linux), there are video adapters that can be thought of as video cards that connect via USB (rather than PCI Express, for example). This kind of adapter could work on tablets, phones, etc. if there were a driver written for them, but this is a nontrivial task and the market is unproven, especially as MHL adoption grows.
Jonathan from Plugable
monoprice.com seach usb to hdmi
The only issue is if the device does not have mhl, then as of right now theres no way of gerting it to work in that sense. Even if you use say CM roms they cant take advantage of mhl even id your phone supports it. The devs have stated time and time again its proprietary and will basically never come. Regardless, im much more interested in miracast, simply put wireless hdmi connection to your tv. I have my nexus 7 using it via my ras pi. However its not polished yet and is a similar state to what Ive gotten using samsungs version with a dongle. Check it out if your interested google Android Transporter. Its on the raspberry pi website. They also got it working on the galaxy nexus and some other nexus device's.
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Does the XZ or the XZ Premium support HDMI alternative or alt mode through the USB-C port?
This is what I'm talking about :
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/1/12758384/usb-c-hdmi-alt-mode-cables-specifications
I think Sony dropped MHL support because of the google cast.
Not sure if usb C to HDMI works, but you can find out and let us know
Apparently the Snapdragon 835 natively supports Displayport alt mode.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlkkM8SkDQ
I've bought this HUB with HDMI recently: https://www.amazon.de/Delivery-Auflösung-Ladefunktion-Macbook-ChromeBook/dp/B01BXOW3V0 but haven't got the HDMI Port to work so far, I'll try again later propably.
Any news?
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Any news?
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I've tried it again but it didn't work. The Device might not support Displayport over USB C at all or we just need to wait for an Software Update.
Check if your device supports Displayport alt mode.
Or you could try it with a Displayport alt mode capable USB-C to HDMI cable or adapter.
C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable?
Thanks.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable just like this one? This cable here is marketed as DisplayPort alt mode capable and it's supposed to work with Samsung Galaxy S8 which also uses the Snapdragon 835 chipset. So theoretically it should also work with Sony Xperia XZ Premium out of the box.
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Compatible-Galaxy-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B01LYS3Q5A
Thanks for the info.
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I used this one (it supports Galaxy S8):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FNG86N/
I tried with multiple TV and monitor, but it didn't work.
[UPDATE]
I checked with HTC U11 and it works, so cable itself is good.
Unfortunately I can confirm that the Sony Xperia XZ Premium does not support Displayport alt mode at this moment in time. Perhaps Sony developers might add Displayport support in the near future though but don't hold your breath.
The hardware capability is there thanks to the incredible Snapdragon 835 but for some reason Sony decided to remove this feature through software or rather a lack thereof.
It's a shame really. Now I need to return this phone and buy a flagship smartphone from one of the competitors just to get this displayport functionality.
Hi, Oreo update has been just released for Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Any new info about USB-C to HDMI output compatibility? Can someone test it? Im thinking of buying this phone, but this is a must have feature for me. No luck with Google search.
Ditto-- any news since Oreo update?
Anyone try since the Oreo update? Results?
I just try to plug in the phone with a switch to usb C dock (capable to use with nintendo switch) but it still didn´t work for me, and nothing appears on the screen. The charging and usb are working correctly, so Oreo still haven´t HDMI support for our Phones
I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/displayport-alt-mode-t3739553
just because a chipset supports something doesn't mean its physically connected, not even having the pins connected on the PCB will determine if it can support it, the hardware could be disabled in multiple locations and supporting chips may not even be present. yes it may well be software limited but don't hold your breath, since time began manufactures have be dropping functions from chipsets
Yes it's possible and feasible. Ignore that lame know-it-all naysayer and doubter above ^^
@Inerent
Thanks for creating a bounty thread for it.
You might want to turn it into a crowd funded fundraiser though.
100 bucks is not much of an incentive for the talented and hard working developers. Keep in mind they do this in their spare time. We must support their hard work.
Lirannl said:
I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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I have an app called Sentio desktop. It activates if an external display is connected, or a keyboard is connected. I didn't connect a keyboard at that time, so it must've detected an external display. I tried using OTG for plenty of other things. It doesn't make mistakes. Sentio only launched when I connected a keyboard, not external storage, or even a mouse. Only when I connected a 2 in one (mouse+keyboard) did Sentio launch.
And when I hooked my phone up to the TV with the HDMI cable.
Do you think that that piece of information could be useful in making a kernel mod to make it work?