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[Q] Clockwork and wiping data question...

Ok simple question I know but its in not easy to get a DEFINITIVE answer for (yes I have searched). When the time comes for me to install a custom ROM to my beloved Nexus S, it is highly recommended to do a full system wipe....fine, but does this leave my precious SD saved files intact or is it literally a nuclear option wipe? Apologies for this simplistic question but I prefer caution to bravery

You're forced into it anyway, unlocking the phone wipes it.

Rusty! said:
You're forced into it anyway, unlocking the phone wipes it.
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Thanks for that, I am unlocked and rooted, did that the day I got it and realised that procedure would kill the SD card. Does the same apply to, for example, loading cyanogen off rom manager? I mean would my nandroid backup of my current rom still be in the Clockwork backup folder on the SD card after a wipe? (I got it saved to my laptop anyway) Thanks

It leaves your sd contents intact. The wipe just clears out everything for the operating system like your apps. Just always make a backup to pc just in case.

Very good, thank you for the advice. I will backup all possible things and all will be fine. I worried that with the SD card being internal on the Nexus S that it made a wipe that much more complete!

willcpfc said:
Very good, thank you for the advice. I will backup all possible things and all will be fine. I worried that with the SD card being internal on the Nexus S that it made a wipe that much more complete!
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Since you're rooted I suggest you get Titanium backup. Go for the paid version, it makes restoring everything much easier.

icandy75 said:
Since you're rooted I suggest you get Titanium backup. Go for the paid version, it makes restoring everything much easier.
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Got it I do titanium backup's, Nandroid backups with Clockwork, and just for completeness save the lot to the laptop....I should pop it all on a memory stick just in case my laptop packs up! Where others boldly go......I follow behind with caution

That's actually quite funny. So far I have yet to have an issue with my NS wiping SD card so I would say you SHOULD be safe. I did however loose EVERYTHING twice when testing different roms and kernels with my Vibrant so now like yourself I backup EVERYTHING. When restoring with Ti I suggest you only restore you apps and not full system. That has been known to cause issues.

Agreed. Titanium for apps only. I guess it would not be the end of the world to lose everything but it would be a hell of a job to put it all back how it used to be......and that scares me man!! And thanks for the advice to my reassuring but simple questions.

If you have Titanium Pro, you can also backup to dropbox so you always have it with you on the go. Well, sort of anyways.

A word of Caution

After installing a custom ROM, I discovered I should have repartitioned my internal sd card, and fix permissions.
So, I carefully backed-up my data and started the process.
Everything was going as expected. Right up to rebooting the system. BEFORE REBOOTING THE SYSTEM RESTORE THE DATA. I didn't, and lost everything.
This is the best website I've found for newbie like me. Use it, study it, and don't make the mistake I made.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/repartition.htm
Have fun and be careful out there.
Don't forget to donate too.

Or use a program like Titanium Backup to back your data up onto an external SD card rather than the internal one?
Or am I missing something here?

Titanim can save your apps and data but not what you have saved on your SD. With a repartition it is a clean wipe of your SD so all is lost, even the backup you have made through cwm that you might have forgotten to move to your PC pre format. Keep a nand backup on your PC at all times, I do a weakly backup and toss it on my PC. That way if I have a bad flash and need to repartition I'm not loosing much. Also I have a starting point other than a stock rom to work with after a full restore.luck favors the prepared ;-)

captirwin said:
This is the best website I've found for newbie like me. Use it, study it, and don't make the mistake I made.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/repartition.htm
Have fun and be careful out there.
Don't forget to donate too.
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I wanted to switch to a ROM with a 1.2 Bootloader, but I was weary of all the steps involved. I went to this site, and he saved me a lot of time. After fighting to get my tablet to connect to my PC, it only took a few minutes to get to 1.2BL with a new ClockWorkMod version.

I Need some help

So I flashed clockwork mod and It worked it was easy as pie. I was able to boot into recovery but I cant get it to do anything. Now I did not ttry to flash anything I just wanted to see how it worked but when I boot it comes up I am able to navigate throught the menu with vol up\down but When I tried to power off or reboot the phone it would not let me select anything. I was using the power button to select but all it did was go to a different screen with a top hat so did I do it wrong? Should I try to do it again How would I get rid of it and start over?
Also The main reason I did this is to flash the stock froyo camera app which I downloaded to my pc. When I move it to my External sd card should I unzipp it first or just put the zipped file on my sd card? Any help would be helpful.
Edit I got CWM working I had to pull the battery and after the reboot I tried again and it worked so I made a backup. When it was doimg the backup it Said no sd-ext found skipping sd-ext backup Is that the external sd card I have in the phone if so it was in but thats not a big deal ass long as it backed up the internal sd. When I flashed cwm i did the external so I am assuming that it stored the backup on the external and that is where I should put the camera file and xboarders rom and anything else I want to flash right? Sorry for all the questions I want to understand everything that I do because I am nosey.
Charlie

You are correct. Sd-ext is skipped when making backups. Just download the rom you are interested in and boot into recovery. The rom you download should be found in the download folder on your ext sd card. In recovery click on install zip. Install the rom. Fix permissions and you should be good to go. I always do a factory reset after loading a new rom.

Okay thank you I really appreciate your help. I already downloaded the xboarders stock rom and the 1.5 ver of the stock froyo camera to my computer. So can I just make a folder on my external sd card called ROMS and move them to that folder from my PC? Then when I boot into CWM I go to install zip and that is it. I dont know if I am going to install a rom yet but I do want to try the camera. If it doesnt let me install the camera without root then I will install the xboarder rom. Again thank you for your help.
By the way I cant believe how easy this is to do I love this website and everyone on it.

I have not tried the camera yet. There are some issues still. I tried xboarders rom for a while but switched to eaglesblood 2.3.3. Great battery life. A must for me. Its not as pretty as some roms but does what I need.
I have high hopes flacko and crew get the camera 100%
Once you flash couple of times you will wonder why you did not try sooner. Be sure to use titanium backup. Use the batch method to copy your user apps only. Be sure to change the backup location to ext sd.

I heard that eaglesblood was really good I was going to try that one as well but I would like to keep stock gb. I actually use launcher pro and I love the way it works and looks because I like that the home screen can switch between lanscape and portrait and I like the app dock at the bottom. I know that the front camera is choppy but I think that is the only real major issue which I could live with because I used the front camera like 3 times. Do you think I should wait? I did donate to the project because I really apriciate theire hard work. everyone who want the camera should.
Also is titanium just to backup my apps and data? I have mybackup pro is that okay? When I did the backup with CWM did that only backup my ROM? What is the difference? I am sorry for all the questions but as I have already stated before I like to completly understand what I am doing.

CWM backs up everything. It is perfect for backing up the entire rom. It is an exact copy of the rom. That way you can play around and try things out. If things go badly or you do not like other roms you can always restore the CWM backup and you are back where you started.
Titanium is nice because you can back up all your user apps to the ext sd card, load a new rom and then restore your apps. It's great for games like Angry Bird or Paradise Island. It also saves bandwidth because you do not have to re-download all your apps. You just restore them from the ext sd card. It works very well.
As far as the camra issue, i am waiting till it is 100%. I am getting by with the GB camera for now.
The EB rom looks very similar to stock, because it is based on the stock upgrade. Just faster with better battery life. I really like it. You can use any launcher you like with it.

Okay that is what I thought. The only reason I don't have titanium is because if I remember corectly ylu have to be rooted to use it and until now I did not think I waz going to root. That is why I bought my backup pro you don't need root. I recently did a factory reset and used it to restore everything it worked perfectly. I am starting to catch on. But I would be lost without people like you and the rest of this fourm and phandroid.
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Flashed the Stock LG camera!!!!!!!!!
I Just wanted to let you know that I flashed the camera without root I am still on stock GB. It works f******* Great!!!!!!! I gotta give it to those guys. They are a bunch of bright people there. I recommennd everyone donate to them they deserve it. I am thinking of starting a post to let everyone know how good the camera is. Just thought I would let you know.
Charlie

Please help!!

I tried to flash 2.3.5 to my galaxy s 4g and it was a bad rom so I tried to put it back the stock+root ROM using ODIN. Now whenever I turn my phone on it just keeps rebootiing I have been trying to get it fixed but whatever I do it just seems to keep rebooting. Sorry if there is a fix and I didnt see it but its late and im very stressed now that my phone isnt working.....

What do you mean you flashed a bad ROM? Can you be more specific?
Try doing a battery pull and reflashing it in Odin.

yea, just follow the NOOBS GUIDE TO ODIN in the BIBLE. from there, you should be fine. instead of using KB5, i would recommend using Raver's KC1 (search for it). that will give you a fresh start.

Sorry I was really tired and stressed out last night but I got it to work finally. I just put 2.3.4 on it and it worked right away. I do have another question though. This is the first time I have ever actually flashed a ROM on my phone. Is there a way to get all the apps back that were on my SD card or do I have to re-download all of them? Also if I have to re-download all the apps is there a way I can get my saves back for the game?

onlyonthursday said:
Sorry I was really tired and stressed out last night but I got it to work finally. I just put 2.3.4 on it and it worked right away. I do have another question though. This is the first time I have ever actually flashed a ROM on my phone. Is there a way to get all the apps back that were on my SD card or do I have to re-download all of them? Also if I have to re-download all the apps is there a way I can get my saves back for the game?
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I maybe be wrong. But your apps are saved on your phone. some off the data from these apps might be saved on your sd card, and some may not. In the future, prior to flashing a rom, in stall a program called titanium backup from the market. It will backup all your apps and data in one click to your sd card. then once u flash a new rom install TB first and restore those apps. they will all have there log ins, games will be where u left them, ect.
But for now, yes u have to use the market to restore the apps one by one.

Mizun0h said:
I maybe be wrong. But your apps are saved on your phone. some off the data from these apps might be saved on your sd card, and some may not. In the future, prior to flashing a rom, in stall a program called titanium backup from the market. It will backup all your apps and data in one click to your sd card. then once u flash a new rom install TB first and restore those apps. they will all have there log ins, games will be where u left them, ect.
But for now, yes u have to use the market to restore the apps one by one.
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I figured I would. I will see if I can look through the files and get any save files. Is it ok to re-format my SD card after saving every thing i need? Just so I can start off fresh?

you can back everything up by making a nandroid backup.
go into cwm, backup and restore and select backup. then when you want to restore after flashing a rom, go to backup and restore, then go to advanced and then restore data. that should do it

jager555 said:
you can back everything up by making a nandroid backup.
go into cwm, backup and restore and select backup. then when you want to restore after flashing a rom, go to backup and restore, then go to advanced and then restore data. that should do it
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This is only to help me before I flash right? I'm kinda screwed as of right now and have to start from scratch. No big deal to me really just means I lost all my saved games. Is it ok to re-format my SD card right now?

if you reformat, you will lose everything on the sd...so its up to you. after you've flashed the rom, you can take it out and reformat and the rom will run fine, if that is what you mean.

jager555 said:
if you reformat, you will lose everything on the sd...so its up to you. after you've flashed the rom, you can take it out and reformat and the rom will run fine, if that is what you mean.
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Ya i know I will lose everything. I already backed up everything. But I have one problem. My phone won't let me click on re-format for the SD card. Should I use my comp to re-format it?

make sure you unmount it first. or you can boot into cwm and format the sd

First Go into Download Mode
this is how you do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069032
Then You Already know How To odin So just do your normal Procedure and you should be okay heres the Bible incase you need Anything else its all here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554&highlight=bible
if anything just msg me but ill keep reading your thread to see if u fixed it... =)

[Q] PLEASE Help

Hello everyone, for starters im a complete newb at rooting phones and have never before tonight so please excuse my ignorance. I just rooted my phone which went fine, downloaded titanium backup and backed up everything, and then moved a zip of m1 cm10 and gapps onto my ext sd card. then i followed a video on how to install these. i was running clockwork recovery and did a factory reset/clear. in the video, the next screen had an option for "choose zip from sd", all mine had was something like update from external so i clicked that and it brought up my sd card files, including the cm10 and gapps files. i clicked on them (i tried each more than once) and they both stgarted to install then said failed. Im literally here freaking out because none of the apps i downloaded to restore my stuff are on my phone anymore, and when i downloaded them from the play store they said i had not backed anything up. somebody please help me, im legitimately having a nervous breakdown because i lost everything and dont know what to do.

Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.

Sounds like CWM didn't flash. That sounds like stock recovery. Flash factory image via Odin, reroot, and reinstall CWM. Download an app called EZ Recovery from the market and follow the instructions. You will be fine.
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Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.

tekrhino said:
Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.
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You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.

mustbepbs said:
You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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This!

apacseven said:
Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.
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When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.

levibernhardt said:
When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.
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Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Relentless D said:
Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Did this ^ in titanium and the files show up, but it still says there is nothing to restore.
Also, could someone tell me/point me to a good method of flashing M1 cm10 onto a us cellular gs3?

mustbepbs said:
You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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I agree 100%, the non-touch version of CWM works perfectly. I could care less about touch/non-touch/color of the app etc. ALL I care about is the capability to do a sucessful restore & CWM has never failed me for that.
I did a restore from it last night & it worked perfectly. The ONLY thing I have ever had to do after a CWM restore is clear data in GMAIL to get it to send.