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I have a dilemma, im on my second fuze (first one had ear piece speaker problems, but flashed back to stock rom and SPL and did a warranty claim so that was no problem), now this one is having a problem where the PTT button must be shorted out or something because no matter what i do (hard reset, soft reset, take battery and sim card out) it keeps opening the comm manager and also the camera, and continues to shoot pictures untill i shut the stupid thing off. has anyone had this problem with the ptt button sticking? I cant send it in for another warranty claim because i have HardSPL on it and the newest NRG Rom, with the ptt button being constantly on i am not able to use the phone at all and can not flash everything back to stock to send it in.
any help would be appreciated, thanks guys
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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misfitwrx said:
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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lol
if you buy a (h)iphone with problem you will just do the same?
why didnt you just bought the (h)iphone at once? if you say that now...
WE HAVE internet, and you should know about things.. i have my tpro about months and didnt touch it about flashing new roms before i know everthing about...
Go and buy an iPhone. Maybe a 3G @$$ one...
misfitwrx said:
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
You could flash a different rom via the microSD.
Download the rom you want to flash and locate the .NBH file. If its a shipped/stock rom, you'll have to extract it form the .exe.
Rename the .nbh file to RAPHIMG.NBH and copy it to the root of your storage card
Put your device in bootloader mode and it should prompt you if you want to flash your device.
Best of luck
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
Best of luck
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Customization, many freeware apps that are very good. As a professional who interfaces with many clients, my TP has been kept stock, only adding apps that I need. I have had mine about 4 months of flawless usage. Like any windows os's, if you don't know what you are doing, or install/uninstall lots of apps, you will run into problems.
As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
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As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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Obviously.
sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
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sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
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I couldn't seem to find any pictures of an atomic Fuze, but plenty o'pics of the fried iPhones.
To each their own. Enjoy!
dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
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dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
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Yes, driving them seems similar but when things break and you need to fix it, that's when things become clear.
And you're right, to blindly hate is pointless.
I am just anti-apple period because of their all-exclusive devices and OS'.
I hated my Fuze out of the box but eventually I was able to make it do what I wanted and needed. Its that freedom that makes me appreciate WinMo, bugs and all.
And let's face it, even the iPhone has had it's share of issues out of the box, which is supposed to be their claim to fame....
Again, to each their own. No one's flaming you for your choice.
but.....
Chevy Rules!
one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
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one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
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I guess, but I get to keep my cheapo 15 dollar unlimited data package and I get to tether with it and you dont.
Haha and theres a couple things the fuze stock can do that the iphone cant.
1. MMS
2. FM Radio
3. Flashlight
4. Download songs off the web (MP3's)
5. Send and receive files and voice clips in Windows Live Messenger (MSN)
I'm missing some others but I'm sure it goes both ways. Although I got to say Opera 9.7 beta on turbo mode beats the iPhone 3GS surfing the web hands down. Super blazing fast.
Because of all of the issues about the Captivate S I've read about on this forum, I've decided not to purchase one. I travel a lot (read GSM/UMTS) and need an unlocked handset for local numbers. I also depend on GPS navigation that isn't functional on the Galaxy S.
Goodbye Android, hello Symbian ^3 in the form of a Nokia N8 I just ordered.
I really appreciate the good info I got from this forum. Next year I'll again consider an Android handset.
And Symbian dont have ANY problems? That is hard to believe.
ha great choice, not.
To each his own I suppose... have you tried using the Captivate? I have a feeling with even all the supposed negatives, it still blows any Nokia away. The GPS isn't a big deal for me and I'm sure a sim unlock is just a call to ATT away (I've called and asked for 3 unlock codes for an LG and two blackberries just last year).
The problem with coming to this type of board for the kind of advise you're seeking on getting a new phone is, a lot of people complain about the negatives. People are seeking out fixes or mods for this issue or that.
To be fair, I'm not a big fan of Nokia or Symbian. I owned a 5800 XM and it was pretty horrible and the N8 or Symbian ^3 doesn't really do it for me. The apps are sorely lacking, messaging and email left a lot to be desired. I'll probably get another iPhone 4, jailbreak it and run ultrasn0w baseband unlock so I can use international sim cards before going with the Nokia again.
I can tell you from personal experience that one of the better phones from Nokia in the past 3 years is the e71.
The n81 is a very cheap feeling phone, and you'll hate the buttons. The n82 is good, but only has european 3g.
n95 is still a beast of a phone, and the 8gb model is nice.
You should be looking at the n8 if you really want to go with symbian, or wait for their S-Series to come out running MeeGo!
And it is not symbian^3, it is just s60.
Go to any forum for any phone and you will see hundreds of negative posts, but most issues don't effect most people.
I have not had the gps issues or many other problems. Also, the users with no problems never post.
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Go to any forum for any phone and you will see hundreds of negative posts, but most issues don't effect most people.
I have not had the gps issues or many other problems. Also, the users with no problems never post.
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thats a good point. ne way his loss. I question the purpose of this thread though, what exactly was the intention here?
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Because of all of the issues about the Captivate S I've read about on this forum, I've decided not to purchase one. I travel a lot (read GSM/UMTS) and need an unlocked handset for local numbers. I also depend on GPS navigation that isn't functional on the Galaxy S.
Goodbye Android, hello Symbian ^3 in the form of a Nokia N8 I just ordered.
I really appreciate the good info I got from this forum. Next year I'll again consider an Android handset.
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Wow. I used the GPS tweak on this forum and my Captivate has been rock solid since the tweak! I use the Google navigation all the freaking time! By the way, the Google navigation is > the ATT Navigation (AKA Telenav) & it's free!! Sorry to hear you didn't utilize the level of detail available to you. Good luck with the Nokia.
returned my captivate for an iphone 4 today...i wanted to love this phone and it just didn't work out. today was real bad and i had enough of it. it was lagging really badly, it would take 10-15 seconds to open an app, screen froze up for a good 30 seconds, and phone wouldn't turn on from being locked. gps is still an issue, even with the tweaks...it takes 15-30 seconds to lock on which is not good enough for me. The music player is terrible, its very sluggish and theres no set program to transfer music/videos/whatever onto the phone. It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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returned my captivate for an iphone 4 today...i wanted to love this phone and it just didn't work out. today was real bad and i had enough of it. it was lagging really badly, it would take 10-15 seconds to open an app, screen froze up for a good 30 seconds, and phone wouldn't turn on from being locked. gps is still an issue, even with the tweaks...it takes 15-30 seconds to lock on which is not good enough for me. The music player is terrible, its very sluggish and theres no set program to transfer music/videos/whatever onto the phone. It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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Wow..... Seems like you had a "special" captivate.
Wow, I'm just really surprised that you researched some Captivate problems but didn't bother to research all of Symbians problems.
The biggest problem not having as much features as any Android phone does.
I've been happy with my Captivate, and it does everything I need it to do and a lot of times it does more than I need it to.
I even save $15 a month with free SMS with google voice. Picasa syncs and saves all my pics to my phone from my PC, and so does my calender.
Captiate has been the best phone I have ever had.
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Wow..... Seems like you had a "special" captivate.
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nope. mine was starting to get to that point and then did a factory reset and the phone is blazing again. I think it was all the apps because i felt like some apps like apndroid didnt uninstall right(yes i know i gotta enable b4 uninstalling).
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nope. mine was starting to get to that point and then did a factory reset and the phone is blazing again. I think it was all the apps because i felt like some apps like apndroid didnt uninstall right(yes i know i gotta enable b4 uninstalling).
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i also did factory reset...it didn't help. i might have had a defective captivate maybe idk, but im the type of guy that likes it simple and get it done, with the captivate you have to do a lot of tweaks and stuff like that, until it gets fixed atleast. i was disappointed when i had to return the phone...i really wanted to like and i thought it was the phone i was gonna keep for a long time when i first got it.
Your experience hardly reflects the average user experience with this phone though....i love mine and so do a lot of people...sorry to hear about your issues but maybe you should have gotten a replacement or do you really think all the people praising it are just putting up with all the stuff you experienced?
I've used message boards for years. I've even adminned a few, and I still maintain my own small one. And I still don't understand why people start threads based on this kind of pap, other than to draw attention to themselves either for self-aggrandizement or to make martyrs of themselves.
In either case, I don't care. I'm not here to find out what phone anyone uses or why, nor do I care about the second-hand opinions that fuel those decisions. All I care about is learning more about the experiences of others with the one I've chosen in an effort to both expand my own experience with it and to share likewise.
I agree with not buying the captivate, I would have gone with a Nexus One or a Dell Streak though.
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Your experience hardly reflects the average user experience with this phone though....i love mine and so do a lot of people...sorry to hear about your issues but maybe you should have gotten a replacement or do you really think all the people praising it are just putting up with all the stuff you experienced?
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i admit, i think most captivates are fine but i also think there are plenty of users that are willing to put up with the problems of this phone, i wasn't one of those users though. those users that are willing to put up with this phone are hoping that samsung will come out with a fix for it and who knows when that is and whether that even fixes the problem. Like froyo, i hardly doubt it will come in September. I'm not going to sit and wait for that to happen when i can get a phone (iphone) that works flawlessly and can perform the same core functions as a captivate. i gave this phone a try and didn't work out, it's simple as that.
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I've used message boards for years. I've even adminned a few, and I still maintain my own small one. And I still don't understand why people start threads based on this kind of pap, other than to draw attention to themselves either for self-aggrandizement or to make martyrs of themselves.
In either case, I don't care. I'm not here to find out what phone anyone uses or why, nor do I care about the second-hand opinions that fuel those decisions. All I care about is learning more about the experiences of others with the one I've chosen in an effort to both expand my own experience with it and to share likewise.
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Yet you take the time to vent on other people expressing their opinions. Whats the difference from the man telling us why he dosent like the phone, vs. You telling us why you dont like the thread?
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It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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Looking at your complaints, seems to me that your biggest problem is that you never got off the Apple tit, and don't know how to live without iTunes.
The rest of the issues you listed have easy fixes found on this very forum.
to the OP...
Obvious Troll is Obvious...
After 6+ years with a Windows Smart Phone (1st MPX220) I see the platform is dead and I have to go elsewhere. I am thinking of going to the Captivate. I like the new BB also but I am not sure if I want a crack berry. I think the Captivate will be more fun to have in the long run.
The cheapest I can find the phone with a 2 extention and keeping my old plan is Best Buy for $149 plus a $30 one time credit to my account.
I am wondering how to get I get all my texts and info from my old phone to my new phone. I have used PPCPIMbackup when doing firmware updates to my phone to back up all my info. Does this work with Captivate also? I am not sure because of the different OS.
I have never had a phone with out a keypad. This will be new for me. I wish I could have a phone with one. I see having a nice slim phone will also be nice. I think the keyless pads is how all phones exept for BB will be very soon.
Does anyone have any good tips or information before I go over to this phone? I know going from a Windows phone to this is going to be very different.
Thanks,
Swype makes everything all good.
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I'm using the xda app so can't see your sig, what phone are you coming from? I've used winmo for about 2 yrs and love this phone. Not sure how to copy things over, seen alot of posts with problems. Best I've seen is manually enter em in google and sync that way. I just used my sim card. Didn't have a bunch of special contact info to copy.
From a phone on an app
I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
Anyone know if the PPCPIMbackup software will work on getting my old texts to my new phone?
veener79 said:
I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
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I also migrated from the Epix... you will not be sorry. With regard to your question about transfering texts, generally anything is possible in Android, and a quick google search confirms this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=transfer+texts+from+windows+mobile+to+android&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=
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I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
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I gave up on my Epix. Were you one of the lucky ones?
The Captivate is a wonderful phone, if you don't mind waiting for a GPS fix.
My own experience: I was concerned about the lack of a physical keyboard, but found that swype makes things easy. However, I am more frustrated that I expected at the lack of really good business applications in android (I am waiting for Pocket Informant android, specifically). Also, if you use Outlook, you may have some frustration with syncing.
There is certainly no android phone to compare on ATT.
Thank you for the link. Looking over this site the only issues I see is with GPS on this phone. Is that about correct? Also it looks like it will get the 2.2 upgrade?
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I gave up on my Epix. Were you one of the lucky ones?
The Captivate is a wonderful phone, if you don't mind waiting for a GPS fix.
My own experience: I was concerned about the lack of a physical keyboard, but found that swype makes things easy. However, I am more frustrated that I expected at the lack of really good business applications in android (I am waiting for Pocket Informant android, specifically). Also, if you use Outlook, you may have some frustration with syncing.
There is certainly no android phone to compare on ATT.
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After ATT sent me my 4th or 5th phone I was doing better because it did not have the ID1 update. I kept on using firmware updates from this site to make the phone better. After the 6.5 update came out and the phone still was not right I gave up. GPS is still a issue but not like ID1. My texts and e-mail keep on crashing on it. I have not been able to update my hotmail via Live for over a week. Every time I close out of my texts it locks ups for about 20sec to a minute or two. I have finaly given up. Now my battery is only lasting about 2 days on standby. After about 1 hour long call I go though about 40% battery. I am just happy I can start doing a upgrade now.
I just hope the GPS fix comes soon for this new phone.
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Thank you for the link. Looking over this site the only issues I see is with GPS on this phone. Is that about correct? Also it looks like it will get the 2.2 upgrade?
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Yes, GPS is not fully functional at this point, but it appears that Samsung is working on correcting the problem. 2.2 is in the works, but no word yet on when it will be released for the Captivate... best estimates seem to shoot for 1-2 months from now.
The gps works well for me with the update. It just takes longer than what I was used to wth the iphone. I get a solid lock in 30 seconds.
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The gps works well for me with the update. It just takes longer than what I was used to wth the iphone. I get a solid lock in 30 seconds.
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Excuse me, *for some*, GPS is not fully functional.
For the most part the captivate is great. Just needs a little bit of tweaking here and there. Gps is pretty much b0rked at the moment. Til Samsung gives us an actual fix. Or we find one. Gps can lock somtimes but it will jump around a lot or lose the fix. Navigation wont work for the most part. Aside from that the phone captivate is a great choice.
OK so the GPS sounds about as good as my epix right now. I can not even get a GPS signal in the car unless I have it on the dash with nothing blocking it. If all it takes is 30 seconds to lock on I will be set. That is better then the Epix. What is up with Samsung and the GPS.
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...What is up with Samsung and the GPS.
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Nobody knows for sure. Some speculate it is hardware and won't be fixed. Most of us feel it is software. It supposedly works for some people, but those that can't get it to work are dubious that the ones that work are just not hitting the right circumstances for it to fail. It actually seems to be accurate a high percentage of the time, but when it is off, it is waaaaayyyyy off. Sometimes only for a few seconds. Very inconsistent.
Samsung has indicated it will be fixed in September. Not much time left for them on that commitment.
If they don't make it by then, there will be lots of whining and griping. I'll be doing that in my mind, but plan to refrain from doing so in the forum The GPS problem is probably the single largest issue that has caused a lot of threads, and several contentious posts.
It is a great phone. Hopefully the GPS issue will have true resolution very soon.
I switched from a moto Q. To a samsung jack, used a epix for a bit as well. Got this phone a few weeks ago and have not regretted it for a second. Android and win mobile 6.5 are not even close enough to compare.
Also swype beats out any virtual or physical keypad I have ever used.
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I'd SERIOUSLY wait 2 months until the Windows Phone 7 devices are out. I was at MSFT this week and got to play with a dev model for a few minutes, it does seem pretty nice. It will all really depend on what apps are available.
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I'd SERIOUSLY wait 2 months until the Windows Phone 7 devices are out. I was at MSFT this week and got to play with a dev model for a few minutes, it does seem pretty nice. It will all really depend on what apps are available.
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My impression, personally, was that windows mobile seemed like it was as locked down as the iphone, but without all of the iphone's features and polish. In short, It seemed like the worst of both worlds. The only thing I that it has going for itself is the nice looking homescreens. That is just my initial impression though and I hope I'm wrong.
You can see my list of phones in my SIG and I know my thing when it comes to HTC and WinMo.... all those phones in that list, were me trying to find a device that ran...well.... the way my Captivate does. Even with fat thumbs I can still type on the software keyboard... I go back to my TP2 and I actually type slower. I just cant type without looking at the keyboard, one thing a software keyboard will never accomplish.
Ive been following WinMo for years, and I can tell you, this makes me never want to go back, even for WP7.
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Nobody knows for sure. Some speculate it is hardware and won't be fixed. Most of us feel it is software. It supposedly works for some people, but those that can't get it to work are dubious that the ones that work are just not hitting the right circumstances for it to fail. It actually seems to be accurate a high percentage of the time, but when it is off, it is waaaaayyyyy off. Sometimes only for a few seconds. Very inconsistent.
Samsung has indicated it will be fixed in September. Not much time left for them on that commitment.
If they don't make it by then, there will be lots of whining and griping. I'll be doing that in my mind, but plan to refrain from doing so in the forum The GPS problem is probably the single largest issue that has caused a lot of threads, and several contentious posts.
It is a great phone. Hopefully the GPS issue will have true resolution very soon.
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Ok I got the phone on the way home.
I am likeing it a lot all ready. I used Travel for the GPS app. That thing worked great. I hope maybe I got a good one. Before I did anything on the phone I did the software update. I am going to play with it for a little and see what else if great. I do love the voice activated things. That is great.
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Ok I got the phone on the way home.
I am likeing it a lot all ready. I used Travel for the GPS app. That thing worked great. I hope maybe I got a good one. Before I did anything on the phone I did the software update. I am going to play with it for a little and see what else if great. I do love the voice activated things. That is great.
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I came from a HTC Tilt, which had HORRIBLE GPS. I was able to get a great Froyo ROM in it and had a ton of time to play with it before I got the Captivate. The learning curve is very low for basic operation. It'll take a bit of research to get the rooting/sideloading etc down. Most everyone here is fantastic at helping out and I've gotten some excellent advice from people on how to mod my Captivate. Coming from a WinMo phone to this one, I HIGHLY doubt you'll be disappointed
Well I picked up my Arrive this morning and I have to say I'm extremely impressed! I am coming from Android (EVO & Epic) and think that Microsoft has something here with mobile 7. I believe I like it better than Android so far. Well built device, seamlessly synced with all my accounts including my Google calender, Netflix is awesome, love the tiles on the homescreen, size of the device is good, and the keyboard with the pop-up screen is perfect, better keyboard than the Epic....by far.
I was wondering what other Sprint users thoughts were now that the Arrive is released. Are you feeling the same way I am and did you come from Android?
EDIT: Windows mobile 7 is nothing like the old windows mobile....not even close!
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Well I picked up my Arrive this morning and I have to say I'm extremely impressed! I am coming from Android (EVO & Epic) and think that Microsoft has something here with mobile 7. I believe I like it better than Android so far. Well built device, seamlessly synced with all my accounts including my Google calender, Netflix is awesome, love the tiles on the homescreen, size of the device is good, and the keyboard with the pop-up screen is perfect, better keyboard than the Epic....by far.
I was wondering what other Sprint users thoughts were now that the Arrive is released. Are you feeling the same way I am and did you come from Android?
EDIT: Windows mobile 7 is nothing like the old windows mobile....not even close!
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I came from a Touch Pro 2 (WM 6.5.). I picked up one for my wife and one for myself, so far I am really digging it. It definately works very well, smooth.
Just like Cyclical, I also picked one up for myself and one for my wife. We've been spending all day playing with the phones. I still haven't fully figured out the tiles, but I personally come from the wonderful line of WM phones (Apache/6700, TP1, TP2). I've played with android in the past and I know lots of people who have android phones. The overall response I have gotten from those that know a computer from a cinder block is that Android is massively frustrating if you are used to XDA/PPCG kitchen roms for WM. Some went so far as to proclaim WM6.5.3 on TP2 as the most advanced phone they know of (this said 2 weeks ago). They have high expectations for the Arrive, and I can honestly tell them that they will not be disappointed.
Everything listed by the OP is spot on.
The Marketplace is definitely much larger than it was for WM5/6. The apps that I grabbed were all very useful (and free), which is a step above the spotty development that had previously been on the Marketplace.
Picked mine up Sunday as well. So far loving the device. Everything is fluid, fast, and has not had a single hickup throught my setup and customization.
Coming from a long line of Windows Mobile devices, while I will miss a few apps and abilities I have been able to do, (IRC, Wifi Router) I feel they will be around in time so it is no great loss. The Fantastic multimedia and games more than make up for it.
The only issue that vexed me is how in the heck Microsoft Created MyPhone for Windows Mobile devices, and it is completely separate from Windows Live. So there is no way to sync your MyPhone content to WP7 nor is there a way to select what you want to sync except e-mail from your live account.
It is a minor hickup and the Outlook Connector for Hotmail did work out ok, but I had to pretty much clear my old Live accounts contacts as it was a collection of people from long ago. What bums me out is there is no way to move or archive them like in MyPhone and currently there is no way to backup your Text Messages like MyPhone has done for a while now.
Either way besides that minor hurdle, everything is synced and smooth. I just now need to balance out my battery usage. The good thing is the Arrive uses the same battery as the TP2 and the EVO. Ebay sales quality batteries for around $2 and they perform a hair better than OEM ones. Great stuff.
Everything else about the phone that is positive from other reviews holds true to this phone as well so I will not repeat a bunch of stuff we already know. All I know is it is nice to finally have a phone that Just Works, is Smooth, Fast, and fun to use again without having to make it all work. I tried an EVO for a month and while I do enjoy its customizability and such, it just doesn't feel near as finished, fast, smooth, or overall reliable. I did run into the Texting Issue that it had at the end of last year and while it was minor, it was just another bug that among a number of others, just keep things from feelind Complete.
Arrive!
Coming from a string of Android devices, Hero, Moment, Transform, and Evo... I have to say I'm a little weirded out about NOT having an android device. I did get a BB Bold when they came out but I went right back to android. We got this phone in our store a few weeks ago and while I haven't been able to use it as my only device, I have had a good run with it.... Like y'all, I'm heavy into customization and roms with anroid. (haven't used winmo since the original blackjack) So here's my take so far...
Gmail on Android is the best email experience ever! Windows PHone gets the job done well, I'd say between BB and Android...
No way I've found to turn 'mobile data always on' like on Htc android devices...
No compass! (sounds goofy as ****, but that's the second main reason I returned the BB Bold)... I do use it.
Camera Apps..... I'd really like to be an amateur photographer and love the camera apps for android.... (THE main reason for returning the Bold)... but I think I'm just going to use an old hero I have for out and about pictures (both my dslr and regular slr bit the dust so I rely on the Evo for pictures, but when I found out I was getting the arrive I sold it) ............
Camera isn't on par with Evo, Shift or Hero... Not even close. Again, I use my phone A LOT for pictures.
Speed test app??????????????? (again, this will come, I hope)
Can't use custom ringtones or notification sounds out the box... not a biggie because I use default ringtones, but I HATE the default notifications on all phones. I use the 'Facebook Pop' sound from the android app because it's simple, low key and not annoying as hell. So, I need to be able to use another notification sound.
Can't sideload music... have to go through Zune. Bummer. I have Linux Mint on my computer, Chrome/Ubuntu on my laptop and Mint on my wife's laptop. I'm screwed.............
I honestly think the UI is one of the best around... Fluid, solid and well thought out. It makes sense... instead of hitting MENU for everything, just slide over... I like it.
No freezing or locking up.... so far.... really stable.
One of the best hardware keyboards... ever.
Loud.
Touch is surprisingly good! I figured it would take a while to get right, but no. It's nice!
Being a long time google user, bing will take some getting used to... unless a hack to remap the search button can be directed to google......
voice dialing works well...
XBOX and NETFLIX.............................. Why would anyone even question the awesomeness of this??? Worth it... Well worth it!
There are some negatives, and Winmo has a bad rap, but damn, this is almost a sexy UI. It really doesn't leave much to be desired once you use it for a few days. this isn't your daddy's windows phone....
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...All I know is it is nice to finally have a phone that Just Works, is Smooth, Fast, and fun to use again without having to make it all work...
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I think that's really the crux of the issue. I come from a long history of tinkering with WM5, WM6, and Android on the HTC Apache, Vogue, Touch Diamond, and Hero. I have spent more hours than I care to think about trying to tweak and improve the stock functions of those phones, all with the goal of having a fast, stable phone. The sad thing is that despite my best efforts, there was never a point at which I was happy with those phones. Sure I added features (I remember how excited I was when I applied an A2DP hack on the old Apache) but stability and performance were never good.
By comparison, WP7 as you said just WORKS. I never have to worry about memory management or closing out programs. The launcher always opens apps quickly and I can access and send SMS and make calls quickly without delay (unlike my Hero). Is it full-featured? Of course not. The biggest omission IMO is a fast app switcher; I find myself spending more time than I would like trying to game the workflow of app openings to take advantage of fast "rehydrating" using the back button. But that's it. I don't need WiFi tethering, and Flory and GoVoice do quite nicely for Gtalk and Google Voice. And Sprint TeleNav takes care of GPS navigation. The biggest thing is I feel no need to root or flash a new ROM just to make it work with CORE functions. I'm VERY happy with it.
-R
Doesn't the Arrive have a digital compass listed as a feature? Just need to download an app that uses it right?
Yes... but no apps.
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Doesn't the Arrive have a digital compass listed as a feature? Just need to download an app that uses it right?
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The only compass apps availible are GPS based. Microsoft has said the compass api is availible but no one has utilized it yet.
It seems that HTC has a compass app that DOES use the hardware and not GPS. It wasn't there last week when I checked!
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The only compass apps availible are GPS based. Microsoft has said the compass api is availible but no one has utilized it yet.
It seems that HTC has a compass app that DOES use the hardware and not GPS. It wasn't there last week when I checked!
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Actually read online that the API as of January still wasn't opened to the public.
htc...
cyclical said:
Actually read online that the API as of January still wasn't opened to the public.
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Which may be why HTC is the first to release one?
awrnsmn said:
Well I picked up my Arrive this morning and I have to say I'm extremely impressed! I am coming from Android (EVO & Epic) and think that Microsoft has something here with mobile 7. I believe I like it better than Android so far. Well built device, seamlessly synced with all my accounts including my Google calender, Netflix is awesome, love the tiles on the homescreen, size of the device is good, and the keyboard with the pop-up screen is perfect, better keyboard than the Epic....by far.
I was wondering what other Sprint users thoughts were now that the Arrive is released. Are you feeling the same way I am and did you come from Android?
EDIT: Windows mobile 7 is nothing like the old windows mobile....not even close!
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JUST jumped from the evo! im really feeling this for now I get bored easily I have had ever highend phone sprint ever offered...I might stay with this and even skipp the evo 3d if its not so smooth and useful
awrnsmn said:
Well I picked up my Arrive this morning and I have to say I'm extremely impressed! I am coming from Android (EVO & Epic) and think that Microsoft has something here with mobile 7. I believe I like it better than Android so far. Well built device, seamlessly synced with all my accounts including my Google calender, Netflix is awesome, love the tiles on the homescreen, size of the device is good, and the keyboard with the pop-up screen is perfect, better keyboard than the Epic....by far.
I was wondering what other Sprint users thoughts were now that the Arrive is released. Are you feeling the same way I am and did you come from Android?
EDIT: Windows mobile 7 is nothing like the old windows mobile....not even close!
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Couldn't agree more with you and the other posts. Loving WP7! My one minimal complaint is the side charging port. No big deal, but sucks if you try to pick it up and use it while plugged in.
Custom Ringtones????
I picked up the Arrive yesterday for my wife because i just couldn't give my EVO up but I wanted a wp7 phone. Anyways I have to agree with almost everyone here, sexy UI, fast, digging the tiles, and all the good love blah blah blah. I'm a XDA fanatic and a flashaholic and is killing me to not be able to load custom ringtones to the Arrive like i do in my Evo. I hate the stock ringtones it comes with. Does anyone have a solution, workaround, hack, zip, file, ritual, plan, anything to get this done?? Thanks
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My uncle has the note, and he keeps saying that most apps aren't working/compatible.
Is this true? I feel i can't get an honest answer out of him as he's showing his colors as an Apple fanboy now, which is fine, but he keeps ****ting on Android which is starting to annoy me a bit as i know how good is.
iOs is 100% made for him, it's easy, and he doesn't need to make any effort to do anything (he thinks).
Sorry for ranting, i don't mind ios to be honest, but i like to have complete control of my phone, he doesn't.
So, I'm on the sgs2, and so far, all the things I've downloaded have worked and have worked well. Is this not the case for the note?
have you noticed a lot of incompatibility?
He is stock gb by the way. No interest in rooting or anything. Seems happy enough to wait for his carrier to bring him ics.
Also, if you did have issues with apps etc.. Was it resolved when you upgraded to ics?