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Hey everyone! I just picked up the Samsung Captivate on launch day and it is a very impressive phone (don't ask me why big tech blogs like Engadget and Android Central haven't even done a review on such a great phone, but this is for another day) I love the screen it is by far the best looking screen I have ever seen on a mobile device and it was even a big jump coming from my Nexus One (which I still own and will never part with, long live the king). I have been very impressed, but I am having some major problems (yes I am having some GPS and some other bugs like the lag issue which hopefully can be fixed with a firmware or Froyo). Please read on and let me know if you too have any of these problems as I have yet to of seen any of these in any threads. I am really considering taking this back tomorrow and demanding a replacement and if I have the same problems I will unfortunately have to permanently return to my Nexus One.
1. I noticed from the moment I played with the phone (after the longest charging I have ever seen in a phone btw) that when I grab the phone within a second or two I lose a couple bars of service, and yes I know that "bars" mean nothing so I have been watching my phone in "Menu > About phone > Status > Signal Strength" and I have my Nexus One (on AT&T and I have never noticed any of the T-mo N1 problems with losing service) I set my phone down in many different places in town like my apartment, work, fiance's work, a couple restaurants, and even the pool and it has given me a lot of concern.
-Sitting down on the table at my home the N1 comes in at -69 dBm 23 asu and the Captivate comes in at -81 dBm 16 asu. I have never even dropped a call here on my Nexus One ever. Picking up the N1 it will jump up to between -71 dBm and -83 dBm (sometimes a little higher), but the phone still seems to run like a champ and I have owned it going on 5 months. The Captivate once picked will jump back and forth very quickly from 81 dBm to between 97 dBm and -112 dBm and will continue to jump around going from 5 bars down to between 3 and 1 bar and then I set it down and it seems to jump back up.
I don't know a lot about signal strength even though I have done some research so this may not even be a huge problem, and that is why I am asking all you wonderful people here at XDA on your opinion as I really don't want to get stuck with a lemon. I know I am an early adopter and being a huge Android fan I run the risk of "bugs" because I always want the newest, fastest, brightest, and best before anyone else (hell, that's why we all hang out here right?). I would really appreciate it if anyone could respond to this and give me some quick advice. I have given it a couple days now.
2. I am one of those people that keeps their Nexus One in the included Android sleeve and it doesn't have a scratch or mark on it. I have always kept my tech in very nice shape and you could say I am on the OCD side of things. This brings me to my second big gripe. Where the screen meets with the plastic on the top and bottom seems to have a small gap and it is collecting so much dust. I was cleaning it out in the first couple hours and this phone hasn't even been in my pocket yet (I am using my N1 and my phone during work until I find me a nice case or sleeve). It isn't just a little bit either. It hasn't made it's way under the screen so I can deal with a little dust and maintenance (god knows I did with my Nexus One). I am worried that I will run out of time and end up with a screen with dust under it and a fight with Samsung trying to replace it. I really want to root this phone and remove it's only flaws and we all know the wonderful devs here at XDA will have some great ROMs running Froyo in no time and we can't always count on Samsung to keep up with things.
These are main gripes, but like I said I am having problems with GPS (and know I am not basing my problems off of being in the house that is just ludicrous to even ***** about something stupid like that). It took me forever to get my Captivate to lock on and now it seems to triangulate by the AT&T towers and I jump all over the place, and again I have never had any problems with my Nexus One I use it all the time as my main GPS. I have been following threads on these problems ever since the Galaxy S i9000 launched over seas as I have been wanting this phone for awhile. I also have been watching the threads about the "Galaxy S Lag" that I am sure most have experienced. I kinda think some of this has to do with coming from my N1 rooted with great ROMs and Froyo for the past couple months and going back to Eclair 2.1. I know that they don't have the HIMEM (or whatever it is called) and I am only working with half of my RAM so I am a little more patient with these two problems then I am with potential hardware problems.
If you could take a second and drop a comment on this thread about how your Captivate is running and especially holding up on the signal strength and gaps in the hardware between the screen and housing I would really appreciate it. Also, if you could let me know what you all would do in my situation as I really do love this phone and it has a lot of potential for some time in the Android world. Thanks again, you all are great and the Android community is second to none. Thanks again to all you devs that work so hard for free to make all of our devices that much better and for helping us get the most life out of our hard earned high end products. Android For Life!
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hi
Your observations are exactly reflecting my opinion (minus the nexus one : captivate is my very first smart phone).
I am facing all the issues u hav mentioned
1. The bars keep varying a lot but i am inclined to believe that its a software problem bcoz i never had a drop call with the zero signal. But today morning my calls were continuously dropping. It could be an isolated incident though bcoz after tht the calls did not drop.
2. To verify the fact that the signal bars could.be misleading i made quite a number of calls, was on the speaker during the calls. I was observing the signal strength menu ( the one tht shows in dB) and to my surprise ii was still on call when the strength showed 0 dB . The signal strength indicated zero for more than a minute on multiple calls but the calls did not drop.
3. GPS issue is very significant but i am confident that will be fixed.
4. And yes i too found a significant gap in the hardware where dust is already accumalating. The charging port too does not look very sturdy.
Having said all this i really love this phone and am thinking most of the aoftware issues can definitely be resolved.
WRT hardware this phone is the most powerful in terms of graphix too and i can only imagine the awesome performance when running froyo.
I think i am gonna get my phone replaced. But definitely not thinking of switching to any other phone.
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Hey thanks for writing back it makes me feel a little better knowing that I am not the only one. I too think that many of the problems are just problems that all early adopters have to worry about although it is a little disheartening that Samsung launched the i9000 over seas with some of the same problems and didn't fix the two that came to America (Captivate and Vibrant). I am very aware that these things take time and I won't ever say anything especially since I am not developing myself. We have some great devs working on Android phones of all makes and providers and I have confidence that a great phone like this is going to attract some great devs and who knows maybe in a couple years I will be able to give back to the community with work on some killer Android phone as I am going to school for that kind of thing and would love to mess around with it.
I too am not to the point of giving up this great phone. I know my post was filled with negatives and concerns, but this phone is great! I feel that the phone is built great and I am not to worried of breaking it as I am with some phones out there. I am blown away by the screen and 4" seems to the best size out right now in my opinion as I have messed with the Droid X and EVO 4G and I feel that the Super AMOLED blows these screens out of the water. It is a huge jump from the AMOLED on the N1 and I still love that screen. I know this phone has some great specs and I think besides the Sprint Epic it has the best looking feel to it. It is a sexy phone indeed and has the potential (along with the EVO, Droid Inc, Droid X, and Droid 2) to lead the next generation of Android phones. Being on all four US carriers and more all over the world is going to attract a great many users and better yet a lot of great devs that should be working on this great phone. It is the fastest (spec wise) Android phone out right now and I am blown away by just how much of a difference the processors GPU makes compaired to 1 Ghz Snapdragon phones. The screen is my favorite part and the MaxTouch Sensor and Super AMOLED screen make for a very responsive device and it really feels very smooth. I am willing to be patient with things that can be fixed like software (just wait until this beast gets Froyo you will be amazed), but hardware is a different story. Coming from the Nexus One (best phone I have ever owned and I refuse to give it up with all the development behind it) I refuse to deal with hardware limitations as this will be my phone for atleast the next year. Using a generation old touch screen on such a high powered best in class (at the time of course) phone is very silly and it was and still is a huge annoyance that I have had to learn to deal with while using the N1. MaxTouch was one of the main reasons I wanted this phone along with Super AMOLED (I really can't see myself going to any other screen ATM), Hummingbird Processor (and PowerVR GPU), and overall sexiness. It's a great phone and I am sure I will enjoy it as I am enjoying it now with some minor problems I just wanted to see what other new Captivate owners are experiencing and see what I could expect if I was to exchange it tomorrow.
Again, thanks for the response and good luck! I am sure I will continue to see you around as we are now in the same Android family.
generally the dust gets inbetween the screens. But since they are together in the new Super Amoled, i don't think there will be dust inbetween the screen!
Hi Angermeans,
Regarding the GPS issue, did you try the fix from the Vibrant forums? If not, go check it out. The thread is called "Gps fix 101" in the Samsung Vibrant section of the forums. Also, before you do that enable the "Use Wireless Networks" setting under Location and Security settings, if you haven't already done so.
I too had the GPS issues and once I did what was written on there (and added the Cold Start option, as you can see in my post there, you might not need to do that), my GPS locks on in seconds, I even got a lock indoors. I also locked while driving 70mph on the freeway. At home, I compared it side-by-side to an iPhone 4 and it seemed the same. I really hope it helps you out, it's lame to have the excitement towards this awesome phone dampened like this....I hope AT&T (and Tmobile) and Samsung address this crap...it's a shocker why they even let the phone get released with this bug...this phone deserves better than this
You know what I really didn't even think of that! I did read somewhere that the super AMOLED was going to be losing part of the screen and really that was my biggest concern especially since I have spent the better part of the last five mo
nths fighting with dust trying to get under my screen with my rooted nexus one. Thanks for sharing that information that helps put my mind at ease as I swear I read that it is impossible to get dust under samsungs super AMOLED screen.
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You know what I really didn't even think of that! I did read somewhere that the super AMOLED was going to be losing part of the screen and really that was my biggest concern especially since I have spent the better part of the last five mo
nths fighting with dust trying to get under my screen with my rooted nexus one. Thanks for sharing that information that helps put my mind at ease as I swear I read that it is impossible to get dust under samsungs super AMOLED screen.
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I've taken apart multiple nokia phones because of dust, and it is because there is a gap between both screens. With these, it is air free. That is why they are able to make the screen so thin. I prefer not having the gap, because if you look well enough, you can see the two screens.
With "Use Wireless Networks" enabled under Location and Security settings I've always been able to get a lock within a second or two, but it doesn't seem to be a strong lock. In Google Nav, the GPS accuracy circle around my car will randomly appear, get bigger, and then disappear, and it will occasionally think I'm off the road or will take a second to catch up after I've turned. It's usable, but I wish it was better. Hopefully it can be fixed by a software update.
No I didn't but I just read something about that on a thread just a little while ago I'll haveto check that out tomorrow especially since it worked for you thanks for sharing that. This is why I love the android community and XDA forums. Now most off my concerns are put to rest and I can continue to enjoy this phone. Now time to worry about bigger problems like when samsung is going to push froyo out to this beast! I have been spoiled using the nexus one. Do all you guys have your phones rooted? I was holding off until I decided if I was going to take this phone in for another captivate.
Yeah you are right I read somewhere tonight that some people think that samsyng did this on purpose to save battery life I'll try to find the thread and post it tomorrow. Hopefully its not a ****ty GPS chip in the phone I can't imagine samsung going top off the line in everything else in this phone and then cheaping out on a chip but then again google and HTC did the same thing with the nexus ones screen so you never know when it comes to high end android phones. I have yet to see any of the top of the line android phones ber perfect they all seem to have some problem especially HTC.
I bought the case sold at the at&t store and that solved the losing bars issue.
I posted in a different thread that I changed and tweaked my gps settings and it was spot on unless i was by a tree the size of a house.
I was very happy with it for my 2 mile drive. I will use it tomorrow since I need to navigate somewhere I've never been and update on here.
Yesterday, I purchased a HTC Sensation from Walmart. I spent the day comparing it to my G2X (which I still have) and decided to see how the phones stack up against each other. The following are my observations:
Screen: I think this one comes down to preference. It's a hard call saying which one looks better than the other. The Sensation did not have any backlight bleeding (my G2X has minimal bleeding). When looking at the same picture on both phones side by side, the G2X seemed to be brighter. The viewing angles on the Sensation were not as extreme as on the G2X, but they were fine (unless your were looking at it from an extreme unnatural angle lol)
Performance: After having used a G2X since it came out, it took a little bit of getting used to the way the Sensation performs. That's not to say it's slow by any means (because it isn't), it just performs differently than the G2X. The Sensation has a lot of transition animations that the G2X doesn't have and this can make it feel slower than the G2X. For example, when you hit the home button on the G2X it takes you straight to the launcher, whereas when you hit the home button on the Sensation it fades into the launcher which takes about a split second longer. After a while I turned the animations setting on "some animations" because I prefer the snappiness of not having so many transitions than having all the eye candy. Of course this is just a personal preference. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will appreciate the eye candy. In using the phone I did not experience any slowdowns or lag. The phone was very responsive. All in all, I'd say both phones are on par with each other when it comes to responsiveness.
Sound: The Sensation wins this one easily. The sound on the G2X is very tinny and gets easily somewhat distorted. While the speakers on the Sensation aren't as good as some phones I've had (such as the Nexus S) they are definitely a higher quality than that of the G2X. The G2X does get a little bit louder than the Sensation, but it's sound quality is not on the same level.
Camera: The camera on the Sensation definitely responds faster than that of the G2X. As far as clarity goes, both phones take pretty decent pictures. I don't really see a world of difference between the two phones. I am pretty satisfied with the cameras on both phones.
Battery Life: Since I have only had the Sensation for one day I can't really speak to in depth on it's battery life. That being said, I will say this, I took the phone off of the charger with the battery around 80%ish and I had 3 hours of phone conversation, about 10 minutes shy of two hours of screen on time, push exchange email, facebook syncing, texting, and web browsing and the battery lasted me a little over 6 hours. This leads me to believe that the battery life on the Sensation is better than that of the G2X. My G2X in the same scenario would have died out much sooner than that.
Conclusion: It's hard for me to say which phone is "better". If you were trying to decide on a phone that was ready to go today, I would say go with the Sensation. Though I've only had it for a day, I did play with it extensively and I did not find any bugs. On my first day of having the G2X, I had already had multiple reboots and freezing. The Sense UI is a bit of an adjustment when coming from vanilla android but it is definitely very nice and very well implemented. The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively. I noticed the leaked G2X gingerbread rom has the same problem so I'm not sure if it's a gingerbread problem or what. Hopefully this thread helps those that might be on the fence between the two phones. If there is anything that I missed that you want to know, just let me know.
Nice review
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Thanks for the great review. I have been considering purchasing a Sensation to go with my G2X. AFter reading a lot of reviews I had decided against it. After reading your review I am back on the fence again as to whether to buy it off contract or not.lol Would be interested in your findings after about a week . Once again thanks for posting an honest objective review!!!!!
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
Well now it's a deathgrip thread. Wack.
Great review.
Gotta say I did like the sensation. It's a tad heavier then the g2x and I really liked that.
I only got to play with one for a minute but I loved the screen. I think it's got a really nice screen.
I did notice lag. The app drawer did have a slight delay before it would open.
Not a the fade out effect it does. Also the weather app was nice. Really like that.
But my g2x is faster.
Really that's all. The g2x is just as nice feeling.
Now the kicker.
I would just use adw ex on either phone. And I love the speed of the g2x.
Either phone would make me happy. But until I get gingerbread on my g2x is can't give an honest opinion.
Because my g2x is faster on 2.2. Has no issues but screen bleed. That never bothers me
So when 2.3 drops.
I was actually looking at the evo 3d now.
I may have to check it out.
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mobilehavoc said:
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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I would think even if the death grip exists, the vast majority of superphone owners use a protective case, so that should really never be a major issue.
To the OP.... thanks a BUNCH for your real world comparison! That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I'll still be within my exchange window when the Sensation hits T-Mo stores on the 15th and I'm still undecided if I want to return my G2X. The screen size and resolution of the Sensation is very appealing to me
I don't know, I'm hearing that there are quite a few problems with the Sensation. A buddy of mine got one yesterday and his is locking up and randomly rebooting on him. He's had problems with the GPS locking on and also says the audio leaves a lot to be desired.
Also, if you go to the Sensation forum here on XDA you can see that people are reporting various problems. One that concerns me is several people are reporting that dust particles are getting in behind their screens. That's not cool at all...
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
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Here's a direct comparison against the SGS2. The phone signal is effected but not to the degree Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are. You'll need to use Google Translate.
http://www.nordichardware.se/testla...tungviktare-med-hoeg-upploesning.html?start=8
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The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively.
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
hows the wifi calling
Im good with my G2X I need a Gyroscope for future gaming and 1 gig rom wont cut it and I hate quadrant on the snapdragon but sensation is a great device but so many hardware woes no Gyroscope people keep not pointing out witch is on the iPhone 4 and galaxy s 2 and LG 2X only.
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
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Someone posted the fix. That's why I didn't understand what you were trying to do. Kind of stupid on HTC's part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117912
Having left T-mo with a MT4G to go to *SpRent with the EVO4G and now back with the Mo I was looking for a HTC-ish device. The G2x was the common ground I decided on. I still own 2 Evo4g's (hustler plug) and have been waiting for this Sensation of a deal for T-Mo. Your review seems legit and non biased. Would like to hear what happens within a month of usage though.
"Y a month?" because within in that time, to me, you will have done what ever type of testing (unknowingly) there is to do with the device repeatedly in the many environments you frequent. And been able to post its abilities against the G2x under any and all situations you normally face.
See you in the Future
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hows the wifi calling
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I've only used the wifi calling a few times so far, but I will say it's been stable.
In other news: I've noticed that the bluetooth signal strength is not as strong as on the G2X. With my G2X I could put the phone on the charger and go upstairs or go outside and get as far as the driveway. With the Sensation I get about half the range that I was getting with the G2X.
After seeing all these "I'm leaving" threads, I'd like to do a little experiment. It's quite obvious some of you bought the G2X thinking it would be the perfect phone, void of any major flaws.
I'd like to compile some data and find out what device the G2X replaced for you and also if you are bonified happy with the G2X.
For me, I came from the Nexus One (which I still have and that is now collecting dust), and I am very happy with my G2X. My particular device has difficulty maintaining UV while sleeping and also has some minor backlight bleed, but I am still very happy with my purchase.
BTW, the reason I posted this thread in General, is because all the "announcement" threads are also located here.
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Here's what we have up to post #42:
Happy Users
6 - Nexus One
1 - EVO
1 - Dell Venue Pro
4 - G1
3 - HD2
3 - MT4G
1 - Tilt 2
3 - G2
1 - MT3G
1 - Nexus S
2 - Galaxy S 4G
1 - Vibrant
1 - Blackberry 8900
2 - Multiple devices in short time period
1 - iPhone 3G
Total: 32
Unhappy Users
1 - HTC Hero (Legend)
So far, none... I guess I missed them all before they left.
I came from the nexus one as well and am happy. Only froze on me once, no reboots and you only see any screen bleed if in a dark room and a black screen. My only complaint is my data seems to lock up after using it a bit and I have to resort a minute or 2 before it works again.
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My only complaint is my data seems to lock up after using it a bit and I have to resort a minute or 2 before it works again.
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I had that problem occasionally with my Nexus and also with the G2X now. I think it's more of a problem with tower load than anything else.
I also came from a Nexus One.
I love this phone. Mine is rock solid. Kinda feel bad for everyone who seem to be having so many problems with theirs. Although I can't help but wonder if the problems are actually that widespread or if its a very vocal minority.
I came from the HTC EVO and I am very happy with the G2X. The G2X, in my case, only have a slight light bleed at the very top corners, other that, everything else is bugs in the software that will eventually get straightened out.
The EVO...was definitely the worst phone I have ever owned based on physical quality control.
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The EVO...was definitely the worst phone I have ever owned based on physical quality control.
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Believe it or not, but that's the first time I've ever heard someone say that... Did you try multiple devices and get all lemons, or just settle with your first one? I have several friends that have EVO's and love them... given they aren't what you'd call geeks though. Maybe the EVO really was too mainstream to be accepted by geeks like us.
On that note, maybe the G2X can also be placed in that category, albeit at a slightly higher level... in other words it takes the geekiest geek to enjoy the G2X despite it's flaws.
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After seeing all these "I'm leaving" threads, I'd like to do a little experiment. It's quite obvious some of you bought the G2X thinking it would be the perfect phone, void of any major flaws.
I'd like to compile some data and find out what device the G2X replaced for you and also if you are bonified happy with the G2X.
For me, I came from the Nexus One (which I still have and that is now collecting dust), and I am very happy with my G2X. My particular device has difficulty maintaining UV while
sleeping and also has some minor backlight bleed, but I am still very happy with my purchase.
BTW, the reason I posted this thread in General, is because all the "announcement" threads are also located here.
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I came from the Dell Venue Pro...a Windows Phone 7 device. Not new to Android...having had the Cliq, My Touch and the Nexus One...I ordered my N1 about 2 minutes after the site went online that day
I am still very happy with my Dell, and WP in general. But I am estatic about my G2x. No buyers remorse, no regrets
I came from the G1 lol.
Huge improvement however the g1 had way better GPS and battery life.
I've not experience any crashes our reboot but I did experience a few "battery overhear" issues
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Came from the HD2 running CM7. I loved that phone...and now I love this one. I've only had two reboots...both times shortly after plugging it into my laptop (connection?). The only other complaint is the the scuffs and the small chip out of the glass from dropping it three times. Stupid me, I had no case or screen protector; and the concrete isn't kind. Anyway...I love it!
You know... I remember when I got my G2X and I tested the GPS on the stock froyo rom. It locked in seconds... I'm thinking the GPS problems will all be fixed with a new set of drivers.
WOOO! Thought I had a problem phone since I was not getting any data and after tmobile removed all data connection, and re-added, all is well again. This is coming from not getting ANY data the last day.
This phone is now the beastziLLa I thought it was. No issues here other than battery life which seems to be random on my end (pretty much no drain overnight, but does typically last the entire day for me).
Great phone! (coming from a rooted/modded HD2 which I still love and dont know what to do with it, anyone looking for an HD2?)
Peace!
I came from a mytouch 4g...but had a hd2 for a while...and so many other phones...g2..cliq2...sidekick 4g...but this phone seems to be what I was looking for...I'm a phone person so ill soon get the sensation ..
But I still love this phone..
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I had a MT4G which was an excellent phone, never had any issues with it. Despite its flaws, I love my G2X equally though.
brett_day said:
I had a MT4G which was an excellent phone, never had any issues with it. Despite its flaws, I love my G2X equally though.
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Just realized we're from the same city! Wow...
I came from the G1 too. Ran everything since CM5 to Froyo By Laszlo. Too bad the dev's test phone blew up. He could have kept the development going. Right now I'm on my 2nd G2x, because my first one had a screen defect...and a dead pixel...and GPS issues...and random reboots...It pretty much sucked.
I desperately needed a replacement. But I wanted to give the G2x another try because I like the G2x overall. I'm not quite liking the Sensation yet, even with the features it has over the G2x. The date number for the broken one was 5-06-2011, and my new one is 5-14-2011. My replacement certainly works better, but I don't think I can flash ANY of Faux's kernels onto it. I haven't tried Trinity yet though.
Other than that, it works perfect. GPS works, Wi-fi, no reboots. So far 5 hrs off the charger and it's at 71%. It's a toss-up. You have a chance to get a good one or a bad one. But if you get a good one, it's a keeper.
I came from whats in my sig had that phone for 2 years and loved it Bought my g2x on launch day. Totally happy with the phone I did get one replacement 6 days in due to major screen bleed. New one has it in the extreme top corners but nothing I cant live with. I have had 3 reboots but the phone was full operational by the time I picked it up so again nothing I would complain about. I didn't have much hope for battery life as battery technology has long since been behind the curve in advancement. I average with features turned off and moderate use (look at news 2 or 3 times a day the occasional youtube video search for wire schematic, constant texts from the wife) about 11 hours. Now with all the features on GPS, wifi, and such and the same moderate use about 6 or 7 hours. but if I add in an hour long charge sometime around mid day everything is perfect. It's a bad ass phone, I am happy with my purchase and with the Dev support I see roaming in here I will probably sport the G2x for the next 2 years lol.
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Just realized we're from the same city! Wow...
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That is so cool! What a small world! Nice to have a neighbor on here
I came from a G2, loved that phone because of the easily removable battery door, hardware keyboard, and LED light. However, I am very satisfied with my G2x even though I miss those three features.
My previous phone was the Nexus One. I was EXTREMELY happy with that phone. Best phone I have ever had by far. Before that was the G1. That phone eventually got slow and sluggish and the Nexus One never did. It was smooth from day one up until the day I had it a week or so ago. I don't really regret selling it since I technically got something better, but i'm not sure how much more I like this phone right now.
It's great as far as the look of the phone. It's a fast phone. But the GPS not working is a huge turn off right now. I don't use it a real lot, but I use it a small amount at work when driving. The GPS was extremely slow and sluggish the few times I tried using it. It would sometimes take a little while for the GPS to start as well. Aside from the GPS, I haven't really had any other issues. It has restarted a few times that i've actually seen, but that isn't a huge deal to me. The battery life has been pretty good.
I gave up my G2 for this G2x and, I haven't had one problem with it.
I do miss my G2 but, my wife has one now if I want to go back to it.
I am looking into buying a new HTC Desire S and have been reading the forum and am disappointed to see so many threads indicating problems with bricked desire s, fried chips etc.
How often do these problems arise? Is the build quality consistently bad? Any other opinions from users both satisfied and unhappy with with their devices?
The other phone i am considering is the SAMSUNG NEXUS S I9023 but the only concerns I have there is that it does not have the gorilla glass display (and that i haven't fully researched it yet). How important and nice is the glass display really?
I am currently using an Xperia X1 so most things will be a big improvement but want to make the best choice.
There do seem to be a few with this prob of bricking but a consistent factor in that is pulling the battery and immediately replacing it. If you do have to pullthe battery as a last resort leave it for 30 secs or so before replacing.
Also it must be remembered how many Ds there are out there and how many have no problems.
Personally I have found no faults with mine.Build quality is generally good ,ok battery cover could be better ,but it is not bad.
This is a really good versatile phone ,if you want to root it its relatively easy to do and there are plenty of Roms for it,but even as stock it's pretty damned impressive.
If you go through forums you will find faults and problems with every phone ever made !
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Re the display I find it's very good,I don't watch a lot of movies or game on the phone,but what I want it to do it does well.
^ +1 to that.
I've had no problems with mine (bought SIM free and unlocked in the UK) since I got it back in May. I do keep mine in a sturdy case with screen protector fitted though, so can't really say one way or another about the gorilla glass and other reported issues of paint coming off. Gorilla glass is only scratch resistant, not scratch proof. Many have managed it with a single grain of sand. Mostly it seems to be people who use pouches. Get a bit of sand in there, and as you drag the phone in and out the pouch, the sand is dragged across the screen.
Case-mate screen protectors (when correctly applied) are nearly indistinguishable from a bare screen. They feel as smooth as the glass they cover, which is a failing of the cheap "5 for £10" deals you see. Use the cheap ones to get your application technique down!
The fried chip is an issue with early models. HTC are aware and no doubt the later models have been fixed (you'd hope.) To avoid the scenario that breaks them, simply avoid hitting the 'update all' button in the Marketplace. Update apps one at a time. If your phone does freeze up, use the three-finger-technique before a battery pull. Hold down both up & down volume buttons, then hold the power button. That'll reboot the phone.
A fantastic phone. And very good XDA community support for it too.
Most of the time the problems are self-inflicted for instance the battery pull. Just treat the phone with care and everything should be fine. Name me one phone that doesn't have some problems. There might be a slight negative but don't let that small ~5% outweigh the plethora of benefits and joy this phone brings.
Not only that you have this fantastic community to come to when **** ****s up. Getting this phone will be a choice you won't regret, trust me.
Consider it in perspective - you are reading posts from a few people who, yes, are experiencing issues of some kind or wish to improve performance.
The vast majority who don't perceive any problems don't post in the forums!
I've used several different smartphones in the past (mostly the old windows mobile) and I've been generally delighted at robust performance and build quality of my Desire S. You may read about badly fitted screen glass, creaky battery covers etc; I have not experienced any of those.
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I have had my ds in about 6months, and I have never had any big problems with it. Have had about 3 different roms on it,and no flash problems. So if you ask me, just go for it!
I have had a Desire S for about a month now and haven't noticed anything terrible.
Previous to this I had a Desire which unfortunately I lost / got stolen. Compared to the Desire, it is a nicer phone in general however there are a few negatives which come with it.
I noticed (maybe I never used my old desire in the same way) that when I run it as a sat nav it gets pretty warm. Although this heat within the design tolerance you don't expect it.
With Sense UI it tended to crash and reboot once every few days - which isn't awful but at the same time it's not exactly great! I am now using a custom ROM (I did this with my Desire also) and have found it to be a much more pleasant experience.
The ROMs seem to be more buggy than those found on the Desire but they haven't had such a long time to be developed, so it is to be expected.
I hope I haven't added confusion to your thoughts, I'm only giving the experience I have taken from it so far.
Also I would love to report bugs to the ROM developers in the developer section however I do not have the power to do so as I haven't posted enough, so if anyone is watching I get power? I have wanted to previously (a few months ago) but haven't ever got round to coming into these forums to allow me to give bugs. Quite an annoying feature of the forums...
I've been using this phone from 6 months and simply love the build quality, one of the main reasons I opted for HTC over the other manufacturers. And since I have rooted the device, been enjoying the great variety of ROM's available on this forum.
Only issue I have had till date is the low sound of the speakerphone and lack of native 3g video calling support.
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With the exception of the Batteries, I've not had any real problems with the Desire S. Hell, even the Battery issues can be resolved either by replacing the battery (in the case of a faulty battery) or replacing the Stock ROM (which, let's face it, is the reason people are here in the first place).
HTC have the best build quality and the battery is so good ( for me ).
I've had my Desire S about a month now and have had no problems. After rooting, custom ROMs, overclocking etc, still no problems. It really depends what you put on it, and how you treat it. Be careful to read certain posts before attempting any roots, custom ROMing etc.
My DSS has been through quite a lot, starting with ARX S-OFF + CWMR. Upon that, I've flashed a new radio and tried quite a few custom ROMs and also switched back to a stock ROM a few times. Now I have successfully restored everything back to stock since it needs to be sent in for repair to have defect hardware replaced. My impression is that the DSS is quite durable.
I am bit dissapointed not only by the Desire S who keeps rebooting for unknown reason after a couple of months but also the android is lacking some basic features.
Like a (proxy)profile per Wifi network, good and stable sync features with MS office suite
to name a few.
I am sometimes wondering if I would have bought the thing if I knew al this I know now. I guess not.
I have mine over 6 months now, and no problems so far except for a faulty app that made it reboot once or twice a week. The build quality is excelent and the battery can go from 2 days in normal use to 4 days in 'contension mode' (calls, texting, a couple of photos and very little use of data connection and gps).
I'm very pleased so far although it is my first smartphone
I am now 11 days on a stock ROM without feeling the need to restart the phone for one reason or another. That it's a record for me speaks to how I feel about it. Not going to rant here, do a search for my other posts if you're interested. Folk here say my experience is not at all typical so, as they say, YMMV. Good luck
My issue is sweaty fingers when holding it. The aluminum back is annoying ill go for the nexus s
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sayeed91 said:
My issue is sweaty fingers when holding it. The aluminum back is annoying ill go for the nexus s
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Well I got mine mid April. Disregarded all bulls*** negative waves around the forum (which was depresively poor at the time, may I say, due to lack of exploit for rooting).
Of course my unit developed a sqeaky battery cover within 24 hrs, and had a sizeable gap between the screen and the upper part of the body. Sent it to HTC, got it back a week later with the following commentaries: "... The quality issues you complained about are not considered manufacturing defects..., blah, blah, blah".
So I fixed the loose battery cover by getting myself a casemate, used a little black silicone paste for the gap, and am very happy with my device. Rooted, tried almost every ROM out there, but am coming back to Virtuosity, especially because I happen to like Sense. Had I wanted Google stock, I would have got myself a nexus S.
For those out there, rooted and complaining about battery life in Sense ROM's, do a battery stats wipe in CWMRecovery and then a couple of full discharge/charge cycles, or check out neolojik's post about battery optimization for cyanogen rom's.
The phone has been off the charger since 06.30, did like 20 min of calls, have data and all the Google sync crap on, browsed the net for 50 min, have been on WiFi for the past hour, and still have 53% juice left. So just be patient and read the meaningfull posts, because the answers are all here, thanks to this great community of users.
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Mine is 1 month and 10 days old I'm Happy about it and no such big problems at all except for the Battery becoz of the FOTA update it made it drain so fast., so now I decided to S-OFF it and ROOT Installed a Custom ROM VU 2.37 and I'ts doing Good again so for me Worth It!
Great phone, but my power button no longer works. I'm getting by with workarounds (eg. volume rocker to switch on), but it's not going to be good when I decide to move on and sell it. I've asked around and it'll cost about AU$120 to fix, and apparently it's somewhat common with HTC phones.
But as I said, it's still a great phone and it's relatively rare that you'll encounter a problem.
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Hi XDA family,
I'm thinking about getting a cheap (but brand new) T Mobile LG G5. (The lack of a notification light on the G6 is a deal killer for me)
How widespread is this faulty GPS issue on the G5? I read all about it here on XDA and it sounds like a miserable situation to deal with. But those kinds of issues usually seem more common than they actually are because people who have a perfectly working device never start threads to say "My GPS works great!" but people who have broken phones start "My GPS is broken!" threads by the dozens.
So how likely am I to get a bad GPS phone? Is it a 50-50 shot or a 1 in a 100 shot?
Basically just look to know if it's highly likely that I'll get a bad phone or if it's improbable.
I bought two of these phones and both have horrible GPS...always loosing signal...have never had so many issues with gps before in a phone
I also have 2 lg g5 in the family. My brother and I. Using them for more than 6 months. Mine is the tmobile version, my brother's got the us unlocked one. Zero gps issues so far.
suhridkhan said:
I also have 2 lg g5 in the family. My brother and I. Using them for more than 6 months. Mine is the tmobile version, my brother's got the us unlocked one. Zero gps issues so far.
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I also have H830 factory unlocked. GPS locked with 2 sec from cold start and indoor.
For anyone's future information I've dealt with 4 of these phones. 1 had a main camera focus issues after a month, 1 phone worked fine, and the 2 others had serious GPS issues straight out of the box. The signal was so poor it was pretty much unusable. Lucky youtube has some fixes that show which pins need to be jacked up. After this the GPS was amazing.
So I had a 50% strike rate with the GPS issue.
I'm pretty shocked with the faults of this phone. Most likely the last LG's I'll be buying. If you can't design a phone with a working reliable GPS you don't deserve to be in the business.