Hello guys,
I want to know what you guys think of me trading an iphone 4 16gb for an samsung captivate? Is it an clean trade? don't just say it's apple and it sucks lol..
Hmmm which side of the trade are you on.... I would expect captivate + some cash for the iphone but I would go back to a dumbphone before I used iphone...heck.even my daughter chose the captivate over the iphone 4th with no influence in my part. they are nice, just not for me
Ya i sold my iphone unlocked for 700 bought a captivate for 300. Best choice i made.
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Iphone + cash would be my suggesttion cuz apple keeps value
Honestly, I feel they should be an even trade. in most aspects they are fairly comprable.
That said, if you can get money out of the deal, do it!
Anyone who trades an iPhone 4 for a captivate even up is nuts. The iPhone 4 is 100 times better but if they're willing to trade you should take advantage of it fast even if you have to kick in a little cash.
Wow....100 times better? I would say hardware wise they are pretty equal, other than I can add 32g external sd....totaling 48, I dont have to use a proprietary charger, so I dont even have to worry about carrying a cord, I can swap out my battery if I somehow happen to find myself without access to a computer or outlet or car, I never have dropped calls, I can get hsupa easily by swapping roms/modems, I can truly multitask, and yes my gps even works....keep thinking I am forgetting something....oh yeah I dont have to gain self worth through a phone and I can even sync my daughters captivate with her itunes on her computer wirelessly....did I mention that I have a smart daughter who does not base her choices on what might make her "cool"
Edit....i just had to let an iphone user connect to my mobile ap because they were having signal problems.....and no I dont have to pay for the tethering plan.... ...too funny
Yeah so as the title says, a guy offered his mint condition BlackBerry Torch for my Captivate. I have never owned a BlackBerry so I don't know how to feel about this deal so...
Would you make this trade? Is it fair?
Thanks
In my personal opinion, that is an awful deal. I feel that blackberries are just plain silly.
well do you like having apps? besides email, business crap, and a few games?
do you like customizability? custom roms? do you want the blackberry keyboard? (touch or not sucks)
do you want a super-power email messenger? or an android phone?
only your habbits and tastes can decide but i would NEVER
ask yourself why does he want what you have?
ill sell you a mint condition penny for your car!
This is a deal on his part but certainly not yours.
I came from Blackberry (had a Bold 9700 then a Torch) Both bought outright no upgrade because I needed a new phone at the time and didn't want to wait the 9 months for an upgrade. I bought the torch and returned it not 5 days later because there is nothing you can do to the phone to make it yours.
I would stick with the Cappy. the torch is so limited on what you can do with it. It is almost like renting a house vs buying a house. If you rent you have to play by someone else's rules. The Cappy is like buying a house its your to build a deck and paint the walls and pull the carpet! I would tell that dude that if he wants a Cappy to check Ebay or buy one!
NO DEAL!
i was testing a torch for my company for a couple of weeks.....HORRIBLE!
i mean..... its a blackberry. it doesnt actually DO anything
My bro got the Torch and I got the Captivate. Without getting into all the hairy details, let's say I love my Captivate and would not want the Torch.
I can take a crap in a bag for you if you will give me your captivate.
If it's in mint condition, get it, sell it on craigslist and get another Captivate and profit!
Funny I just did the same but without trade. I got the torch on release week and after a few months didn't care for it as much and bought a captivate outright.
Like the second post said.it really comes.down to preference. BB is a great phone with great communication abilities, but you lose the apparently and multimedia. I hated you tube on the bb because it wouldn't buffer while paused and constantly stopped through playback. And the processor in it wasn't made for multimedia. When watching.movies the sound wouldn't sync to the picture and id have to pause and play to sync it back up.
It did get better battery life and the keyboard is a plus, but after a few months the slider mechanism would make noises and become loose. I use to think the captivate felt cheap because of the weight being so light, but the torch feels bulky to me, but you'll probably get used to that. The torch does email and instant notifications much better, and if I remember one of the most missed features is the led notification you have on top of your phone when you have new messages.
Call quality was better on my torch and signal was usually not an issue. Of course gps works in it too but if you feel the phone is in even condition it isn't a bad trade. BB usually sells for a bit higher on ebay, especially to foriegn countries.
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Keep your cappy!
Thanks guys!
I just have no idea about BB...so I read your posts, and watched some vids...yeah no wonder he wants to get rid of it, it doesnt do anything LOL
Thanks again for the great input : )
I just became elegible to upgrade my phone, I keep hearing things that vz is gonna switch to tiered pricing and would prefer to get locked in before they change things. Really split between those 3 choices, get a charge with it's amazing amoled screen thats larger and customization of android, or go with iphone 4 with it's higher pixel density, built quality and pretty good camera detail, I can always wait for the apple event on the june 6th-10th and risk being closer to tiered pricing.
I looked at dx 2 but I just couldn't get into the whole pentile screen, it just wasn't right for my taste even with a higher resolution.
Get the charge. You can always sell it on craigslist for an iphone 4. Besides iphone sucks lol
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I've used every single iPhone every year since Apple initially release it. It wasn't until last summer (2010) that I got on Android. At first I didn't like it; i thought it was pretty complicated, confusing, and too frustrating to use. I didn't like Android 1.8 that was pushed onto the HTC Hero as well. So I went back to iPhone. A week later, I got the HTC Evo 4G. I started to like Android a bit more, but still used iPhone 4 as my "daily beater," if you know what i mean.
Long story short, I LOVE android now. I never want to use another POS iOS software device again. Android is the way to go, buddy.
Z51 said:
Get the charge. You can always sell it on craigslist for an iphone 4. Besides iphone sucks lol
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Question: If you buy the Charge on contract, and let's say in 6 months you want something else, you can't sell it because it's ESN will still be tied to your account till the contract is up, correct?
ChaOConnor said:
Question: If you buy the Charge on contract, and let's say in 6 months you want something else, you can't sell it because it's ESN will still be tied to your account till the contract is up, correct?
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It's tied to your account until you want to change it, but it requires little to no effort. You can either change either online through the verizonwireless.com portal or by calling customer service.
Once you have changed the ESN/IMEI tied to your account to your new phone, you can do whatever you want with the old phone as it is no longer tied to your account.
There is absolutely no comparison between these two phones. The charge does everything better except iTunes and battery life. Faster phone and way faster network = no comparison.
I What?
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Syn Ack said:
There is absolutely no comparison between these two phones. The charge does everything better except iTunes and battery life. Faster phone and way faster network = no comparison.
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Well, out of the box, the Charge lags quite a bit. In fact, it's almost to the point where it is unbearable. But the Debloated ED2 solved that problem. There is ZERO lag now.
Android is a hobby, not just a phone, and once you start playing with it, you'll be hooked. iPhone is pretty much a phone for simpletons who just want a smartphone.
The Charge is similar to the iPhone in some minute ways, probably the closest thing to an iPhone on the Android OS. Im trying to sell my iPhone for Verizon now because I just like Android better.
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im considering going back to my iphone 4, switching back n forth between the charge and thunderbolt right now .... as someone said, there can be quite a bit of lag with the charge, try adding a widget to your homescreen, takes a really long time to load the menu of choices ... i actually like using the tb more than the charge but can't read the screen very well in sunlight, so i use the charge more...
as for the iphone 4, most of the apps are done better than the android version, no idea why but that's the way it looks to me.... a minus for the iphone 4 is lack of voice integration, sometimes i'm too lazy to type a txt msg, so i just speak it when i'm using an android phone... it can be done on iphone 4 but you have to use 2 programs, just a pain in the ass ...
also, i don't have great eyesight anymore so it's hard to read the fonts on the iphone 4 at times, on my charge i've installed bigger system fonts so i can read pretty much everything without wearing glasses
oh yeah, games run better on iphone 4 than the charge... could be because of the smaller screen on the iphone, angry birds seasons can really lag on my charge..
another plus for android is the 'integration' of things like pics... there is an option to share with many different social networks, email, txt, etc... can be done on the iphone but usually have to use a different program....
all in all, it's a tough choice.... the iphone is really easy to use, has some great apps, and is stable for the most part..
the charge has a really nice screen, not the resolution of the iphone, but still looks great ...
too many choices, lol, hope this helps some.
Yea, what everyone else said in comparison between iPhone and Android OS/Charge is spot on.
If you're not ready to settle for a Charge and a bit unwilling to go back to iPhone/iOS, then you can definitely wait for the SGS2. I picked one up from the grey market (expansys) and I am loving it. Definitely one of the best phones i've ever used.
I would love to get a galaxy 2 but I don't think its even mentioned to coming to vz, I would prefer to stay with vz, been with them for years and am content with the service.
It's like having to choose from vanilla and chocolate but preferring strawberry.
Only concern with going with iphone is I might get renewed in a 3g data and not be allowed to switch to a 4g device without going for the new tiered pricing if thats what they have if I want to sell and change the phone. There's also low quality on youtube video unless I go wifi and it would be more complicated getting my own ringtones in it. Then again the iphone 4 is well built, reliable and stupid proof. Might be harder to unbrick an iphone 4.
You'll only receive biased answers asking this sort of question here - especially given your posting in the Charge sub-forum.
Having owned both the iPhone4 and Charge, I can say they are both great devices. The answer really depends on what you want to get out of your phone. The iPhone has far superior battery life, itunes syncing keepings things simple, the browser is far superior to any Android browser, and overall - the phone just works.
With that said, Android/Charge is the better option in my opinion. I love LTE, much prefer the 4.3" SAMOLED screen, and love that I can easily swap things like keyboards, themes, fonts, etc. I also like how google does not try to tell you what you want, much like Apple does.
If you want to lock in unlimited data, why would you lock in unlimited 3G data? The only phones on your list right now to lock in unlimited data should be Thunderbolt, Revolution, and Charge, and I'd say that the Charge is by far the best of the 3.
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I would love to get a galaxy 2 but I don't think its even mentioned to coming to vz, I would prefer to stay with vz, been with them for years and am content with the service.
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It seems like it's coming to Verizon under the moniker Function.
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It seems like it's coming to Verizon under the moniker Function.
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The question is when will it come out? I feel like it's coming out later rather than sooner.
Iphone has great build quality.... but that's it
Apple blows. Get the charge
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Anyone played with some nes, snes, and psx emulators on the charge? Can it keep up? Is it true you can use Bluetooth gamepads with android phones and any recommendation on a pad? I played with the xperia phone but was not impressed with the screen.
I got my charge this Sunday. I totally love this thing so far, it's not perfect but I am pretty happy with it. I am coming from a touch pro 2 phone. Only thing I miss from the tp2 is that speaker phone was quite a bit louder, and even output volume through usb jack to cassette deck adapter is not as loud as the tp2.
There's some trade off and most are positive. it's a little wider but it's thinner and a lot lighter, I definitely do not miss the extra weight associated with the tp2 and it's keyboard. Screen is responsive, I have not encountered any slowdown with the exception of flash heavy sites. But then again I am not running too much unnecessary junk on the phone.
Battery is usually 2/3 by the time I get back home or 6/7th if I don't use it much. I ended up getting the dock and it's nice, you can charge the phone and at same time an additional battery in a special compartment, don't even need to charge phone. Low battery, please, I just pull one outta the charger pop it in and put the depleted cell in there.
I wish I could force the camera to orientate itself to portrait instead of assuming your taking landscape pictures.
Programs I loaded so far are Google maps., Beautiful widgets, angry bird rio, psx4droid (got lunar 2, ff7 and crash bandicoot warped working), unEcm and linda manager (lets me browse files).
I still got some work to do, I have avoided getting the ed2 update because it intrudes with rooting. I've been content with the phone so far so I don't know if I will bother rooting and doing some mumbo jumbo with some voodoo kernel thing. ( I'm still new to the lingo, supposedly it helps make the phone faster).
Upgrades I am thinking of doing is maybe flipping my memory card and putting the difference towards a class 10 card, I ordered some phantomskin screen protector, meanwhile I got the anti glare one from vz the day I got it but I think it just makes it glitter a bit.
Rooting and the kernel thing are still under question.
I love the contrast.
My friend started with the 1st IPhone, went all they to the 4S...he just got an S3 2 weeks ago...his quote:
"ok.. so i have used an iphone and now a samsung .... the iphone completely sucks compared to this, and I haven't used 1/10 of the damn phone yet".
Just wait til he learns to root and flash!
Thanks for sharing that
I have a similar friend. He was one of those die-hard iphone fans that was interviewed by the local paper because he was first in line when the iphone4 came out. He loves his SIII but is jealous of my Note II
heh, i had a 3g when they were new and was constantly frustrated with it. it would turn itself off in cold weather, the speakers were inaudible, call quality was so-so. the network speeds were barely 3g, it didn't record video for atleast 2 years after launch then it was only 3rd party becase apple released the 3gs with video and wanted a selling point but the third party stuff was low framerate, not that video on that piece would be any good with a camera that was unusable indoors. it didn't mms for a year before it was updated and att decided it was ok. media sync was only through itunes and picture were only acessable through windows camera drivers. i had a wifi share app because i had windows xp-64bit (it didn't catch on and apple didn't have drivers) and the wifi app allowed me into the camera storage but apple made them change it. f-you Steve jobs. i'd have traded the great touch screen for a phone that wasn't such a piece or ****e in other regards. and why on earth didn't the iphone have turn by turn, why are apple people pissing themselve over that now with a nav app that doesnt even work? the damn lg envy had turn by turn.
so when my contract was up i got an aria, didn't get the captivate because i am not swayed by specs and $300 on contract was a stupid price. on day 29 of having an aria realizing i love android but hate the aria due to a screen that was not usable in sunlight, and the power widget was not just a nice feature it was a neccesity because htc had no idea how to manage battery life i returned it and get the cappy which dropped in price significantly by then. loved that phone but didn't like the pentile screen or the sloppy development it recieved. so i got the infuse and have been reasonably happy.
now i talk to apple user and every complaint i had about the iphone they say ohh "apple fixed that with the cloud" or what ever refering to storage limitations and syncing options. apple cloud services suck. googles are awesome no contest. if they loved the cloud so much they'd have androids. its sad soo many people don't even know what android has to offer. remember all the hype the 4s was gonna get facial recognition but it didn't and the g-nex got it and nobody seemed to notice? or the big deal about siri but google had a decent voice search for how many years? not as polished sure but they had it, and siri is no contest for google now. having actual conversations with machines is over rated. now i see people talking about apples panoramic photos.. wtf? people only know things exist because apple puts it on tv... my captivate had panoramic photos almost 3 years ago!
the crazy thing is the iphone has great hardware. it could do so much more if apple wanted it to.. they are letting google and samsung come up with all the new ideas and trying to sue over the old ideas. where is the inovation from apple because i haven't seen it in 4 years. they have only worked behind the curve to change the shortcomings of they original product and miss the mark on execution.
Samsung Galaxy S II plus is probably the worst phone I've ever had. In it's time of course. But certainly and by far the worst of the three smart phones I've had. Or I can't really call it a smart phone because it wasn't exactly smart. I mean the look was fine. But that was about it. Before the S2 I had a SONY Experia Mini Pro which I found rather nice. But after it had died - as a Mac user I thought of iPhone and considered it unjustifiably expensive. Over the top. So I looked around, read all the reviews and bought the S2. That's where the drag started. And it went on for another three months! It never broke down it never froze but it never really worked or delivered results either. There always seemed to be some inexplicable BUT. As someone used to the indulgent efficiency of Apple products I couldn't bear it any longer. Some three day ago a good man replied to my advertisement - with a deep relief I gave him the S2 and 120€ and he gave me a worn-out iPhone 4s. All the problems I'd have with the tiam-tun somehow miraculously evaporated the first night and I woke up into new days without a device that never really works, presumably speaks some outlandish language you just can't understand, which keeps being a nuisance and is not much of use.
Yes it cannot make coffee... it cannot help me to shave...neither helps me to get ready I m so unhappy...a dumb phone indeed.. my to be wife is much smarter
+1 =))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) very bad that this smart cannot even buy a products =((
doctor_droid said:
Yes it cannot make coffee... it cannot help me to shave...neither helps me to get ready I m so unhappy...a dumb phone indeed.. my to be wife is much smarter
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Dear apple fanboy.
S2 Plus is a BUDGET PHONE. iPhone is a Premium class phone. Do not expect miracle from phone worth 200$
No comparisons
doctor_droid said:
Yes it cannot make coffee... it cannot help me to shave...neither helps me to get ready I m so unhappy...a dumb phone indeed.. my to be wife is much smarter
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You're absolutely right - it does not make coffee, it does not help me to shave, neither does it help me to get ready. I don't need, want nor expect it to. Do you? Or do you know a phone that does that? I certainly wouldn't want one. Anyway, there' s only one crucial mistake in what you're saying - I'm not at all unhappy - you see I've sold the Samsung. And bought an iPhone. But I'm actually quite the opposite of what you're suggesting - I don't play games on my iPhone or Macs - not even "social media" games - in fact I use very few apps. I don't even use my iPhone to tell me the time - I use a proper wristwatch. I don't even use my iPhone to wake me up - at night it's switched off and the role of waking me up is left to my alarm clock. But yes - I do expect my phone to phone. And text and direct me to places and remind me things, generate bank codes for internet banking, take and send pictures and that's about it. And I do expect the device to do it in a smooth way. That's why I'm happy with iPhone - there are no other reasons. By the way you're saying that your wife to be is much smarter than me? How do you know? Anyway it's so rare and therefore interesting to hear that from an Indian man.
The problem with nearly all active Apple haters is that they have a very hazy picture of the object they so passionately talk about. They've never used one. They just assume. They see the people queuing up for the latest Apple product in the news and assume that this is the Apple user. Envy flies high. The reason why Apple products keep their value over time so much is that they keep on serving you. I bought my iMac, MacBook and iPhone all second hand.
When a friend of mine years ago bought iPhone and kept telling me how wonderful it was I thought: "What's the deal - it's just a phone" - I didn't understand. It took me years to buy a smart phone - SONY Experia Mini Pro. And I thought: "What a brilliant thing to have". Then I bought the Samsung and the fight started. Had no option. Eventually I bought an iPhone and only then understood that other "smart phones" are just copies of the original. But just like me - you wouldn't believe or understand until you use one yourself. It's the same story you get with Apple computers…
Quite recently a university I know were given some EU grant for which they bought 50 MacBooks for the teachers, most of whom had presumably used Windows computers. Do you know what happened? There were 48 happy teachers. Two got back to Windows. 4%. And that's that. Save up and buy one - there's about 96% chance you'll love it the way Apple users love their device. It's beyond words…
It's not the design, it's not the apple, it's not the numbers. My father - when I showed him the iPhone and said something about the camera - asked me how many pixels it had. I said I had no idea. Then I showed him a picture and he went "Oh yeah." That's the story with Apple products - they are for those who don't care about the numbers and technical stuff - they are for people who are after what it does.
After I started using my iMac I entirely forgot I had a computer. I'm not interested in it the slightest bit. The device itself has ceased to exist. Never lets me know it's there either. No breakdowns, no moans. But what has come is work I'm now able to do. Suddenly I'm able to do much more work, in much better style and much higher quality. The device has completely vanished from sight. Suddenly I happen to have the capacity. Which in part had previously been given to the device. Now it's mine. Long gone are the times when I had to phone someone all the time being unable figure out how it's done. No more Windows, no more Android. No - never again - thanks! I want to use a tool which works for me, not against me.
michal80 said:
Dear apple fanboy.
S2 Plus is a BUDGET PHONE. iPhone is a Premium class phone. Do not expect miracle from phone worth 200$
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I'm not a blind Apple fan. I don't care what the name is. I don't care about the apple. I'd be perfectly happy with a different brand. In fact I have recently given back an Apple product because it was not doing what it was supposed to. In fact I had bought two other "smart phones" before the Apple. And I quite liked the SONY. It's only thanks to the fact that the SONY died and the Samsung so heavily failed. It's not about the brand. Not at all. And nor about price…
I certainly didn't expect miracles from the Samsung phone. But I didn't expect it to be as bad as it was either. I bought an iPhone 4s for as low as 240€ and can say that compared to the overpriced copy it indeed is a miracle - I certainly never imagined it to be this good. It's like going from a Windows PC to an iMac - first you can't believe it. Pull your socks up and save up for one - you won't be disappointed.