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As above, anyone using higher capacity battery for their HTC Desire and it is tested and proven to last longer than the original batter? Can post the link to purchase the battery?
Thanks!
Before you buy another battery, have you read this thread about calibrating your battery?
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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What kind of battery life do you currently get? Before (accidentally) calibrating my battery I was getting around 10-12 hours, now I'm getting around 36-42 hours.
I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
Lennyuk said:
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
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Hey buddy, which app do you use for underclocking? Cheers,
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I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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Well, I'm using the standard battery and have 26% remaining with "1d 10h" since unplugged (admittedly I haven't used the phone for that much in that time, just some internet usage, a couple of calls, but it's been constantly on WiFi or 3G to sync GMail).
Use SetCPU for underclocking, and use JuiceDefender to automatically turn off your data connection while the screen's off/locked.
It will still reconnect every 15 minutes to sync, and will remain connected as long as there's any continuing 3G traffic while the screen's off. Basically what it means is you're running one of the most power-consuming parts of your device only 1/15th of the time, which make a big difference. Text messages and voice calls come through instantly still - only things requiring a data connection like facebook, weather, twitter, etc will have any delay, and even then it'll only be 15 minutes at the most.
You can also try setting your phone to WCDMA-only, which means it won't be constantly trying to connect and maintain two radios simultaneously. GSM-only would be even better but depending on your carrier it might not work at all or might only work for voice.
With SetCPU try making a profile to automatically go into "powersave" mode when the screen's off, which will ensure the CPU never clocks up past its minimum speed during that time. It's still over 200 mhz, more than enough for anything you might want to do in the background. For normal operation, between 499 and 768 mhz as the maximum clock, depending on your preference, should be adequate and will save you a little bit of battery life as well all the time.
Also, download a widget to allow you to manually set screen brightness when you're indoors and the auto setting is useless. I have my screen brightness set to 15% while indoors and it's still plenty bright. I have the SLCD model, I don't know if that makes any difference.
My phone has been off the charger for 17 hours and 10 minutes. During that time, the screen was on for 2 hours and 29 minutes. I'm at 79% battery life with the standard battery.
Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Yours able to charge it properly?
A small update to my previous post... I'm now at 32 hours, 38 minutes uptime, 4 hours 44 minutes awake time (screen on). Battery just reached 60 percent. Stock battery.
Remember when you made the choice to buy an Android, you were in effect saying you wanted to have a highly customizable miniature computer. Just like when you customize [insert your desktop OS of choice] to suit your taste, you need to configure your phone in order to get what you want out of it - namely, better battery life than with the standard settings.
HTC's goal with the Desire was to have a showpiece, it runs very fast and it looks good doing it. But they designed it with frequent charging in mind. Since most of us here, I imagine, would prefer to charge less often, we just need to configure the phone appropriately.
If you want a guaranteed solution, try this:
- Install NextSense rom (it's free, latest version right now is 5.3 AFAIK, I'm currently using 5.2 still)
- Install JuiceDefender - it's free on the market and its default settings are, for a change, very intelligent and effective.
- Install SetCPU - You can get it free on this forum. Set it to "interactive" mode with a bottom speed of 245 and a top speed of 806 to start with. The default is 998 at the top, but 200 mhz doesn't make a big difference in this case except to help battery life a bit. Once installed, add a profile for "screen off" which sets the phone to "powersave" mode. This will keep it running at the minimum clock any time you're not using it. Nothing running in the background while you're not even using the phone requires more than the minimum CPU speed.
- Install the Brightness Widget by Curvefish. It's free on the market. Put its widget on your desktop and keep your screen brightness at 25% while you're indoors. 15% is what I use, but 25% is one of the presets so it's a bit easier. I have an SLCD display so the brightness I get on auto might just be different from what OLED gets on auto, I don't know, but in any case for me it's way brighter than it needs to be.
- Set your screen timeout to no more than 2 minutes
- Make sure any apps that sync data do so in a reasonable interval. +/- 15 minutes won't ruin your day for most things.
- Under Wireless & Networks, set your phone's connection to WCDMA-only (3G-only). For many people this results in an increase to both signal quality and battery life, since it allows your phone to only run one radio at a time, making a significant difference. If it doesn't work for you, it's as simple as turning it back to the default setting.
- Disable haptic feedback and see if you mind the difference. Making all those little vibrations takes power too.
- Finally (obviously) don't run a live background, but you probably already know that.
Doing all of the above takes an hour or maybe two at most to set up and the difference in battery life is tremendous. It's simple to do, I worked out all of the above on my own and I've literally only had the phone for 4 days now I think, never touched a smartphone before in my life let alone an Android.
Give it a try, you have nothing to lose, and it will probably save you needing to buy a battery. Or, if you still buy a double-capacity battery, it'll mean you can run for like a week on a charge.
edit: also make sure to get the latest version of the radio driver, I don't have a frame of reference for comparison since I updated mine right away, but apparently it makes a fair bit of difference and probably gives you a more reliable cell signal in the process.
In case you think I'm exaggerating, here are some pics I just took.
What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
What do you mean charge properly ??
Is it able to charge?
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What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
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"Ideal" settings are basically the way it's configured by default. You can't improve upon them much even by getting the "premium" upgrade unless your phone is rooted... but SetCPU is a better choice in that case anyway.
Just install it, hit "enable" after it's done auto-detecting your phone's capabilities, and you're done. It's really that simple.
Be sure to add it to your task killer exclusion list if you use one.
You saying the default option is for SetCPU or Juicedefender?
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
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Yes exactly. The pro version unlocks some more customization but ultimately won't add a whole lot to your battery life no matter how it's set up. I mean, beyond what the "regular" version does.
Just thought I would start a thread like this considering it hasn't been done. A lot of people are having trouble with battery consumption and stability it seems. I've been having amazing luck with my current setup so I thought i would share.
DasBamf 1.5 Remix
Imoyeson Extra Lean 1.4 Kernel OC'd to 1.4
Governor set to interactiveX
Latest radio found in DasBamf 1.5 thread
With stock battery I have been getting 20 plus hours no problem so far. I downloaded battery calibration from the market and reset stats after installing new rom. Quadrant is in the 2300's, and the phone is extremely smooth. I will post a screenshot later on of how many hours I have been off charge for this run. These numbers are in a 4G area with occasional switches to 3g.
Mind if I ask, do you have autobrightness selected, or set to a specific value? Just wondering, as my setup is very similar to yours, and I use auto brightness - get about 18 hours of regular daily use, 24 hours light use.
Have heard some say setting brightness to a specific value rather than auto makes it last even longer.
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Mind if I ask, do you have autobrightness selected, or set to a specific value?
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I set it as lighting changes. If I'm home I have it at 25% which is more than enough. Out in the sun it gets switched to whatever works. Easy enough to change with a widget or simply using the pull down that comes with the ROM.
I am using DasBamf 1.6 Beta now. It seems smoother than DasBamf 1.5. Battery life on it looks great so far. I used to get 15 hours with DasBamf 1.5 with reg usage. Texts, internet, forums, calls and emails. I am using the default kernel with the rom and have it underclocked to 1ghz with setcpu. Penty of speed for me. IN addition, I am in a 4G area. NEver switched on me to 3G
I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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I have just one profile, screen off= 216/216. I'm now on 14 hours with 30% left. Much better than before, when I was getting 11 hours at the most.
I also use the battery calibration app. But that's all I've done.
Just want to add I use wifi calling, and I run everything else, gps and syncing gmail and facebook is on. Screen is set to auto brightness. The only thing I have off is bluetooth.
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I have just one profile, screen off= 216/216. I'm now on 14 hours with 30% left. Much better than before, when I was getting 11 hours at the most.
I also use the battery calibration app. But that's all I've done.
Just want to add I use wifi calling, and I run everything else, gps and syncing gmail and facebook is on. Screen is set to auto brightness. The only thing I have off is bluetooth.
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I do the same.. just 1 screen off profile to underclock it to 216/216 when the screen is off
regP said:
I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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Android does regulate the cpu, but I don't think it will take advantage of more conservative governor modes unless you tell it to. That's only relevant if the kernel supports more conservative governor modes. And, as the other responses have pointed out, you can force Android to be more conservative by capping the max clock speed.
Hmm... Guess its worth a shot. Good lookin out guys.
when i go into setcpu there are alot of options to choose there is no auto detect like on my mytouch 4g. how did you guys get it to work. i picked the last option which was custom and it forced close on me.
charlieb620 said:
when i go into setcpu there are alot of options to choose there is no auto detect like on my mytouch 4g. how did you guys get it to work. i picked the last option which was custom and it forced close on me.
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Yeah.. When I hit the tegra 2 option it wont let me change the governor.
You need to be rooted so that you can let set CPU have super user access. Are you rooted yet?
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Yeah.. When I hit the tegra 2 option it wont let me change the governor.
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I think that that means that the kernel is not supported for the "automatic" governors. However, you can still create profiles to regulate the CPU based on perameters that you set, i.e. Screen off 216/216
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I think that that means that the kernel is not supported for the "automatic" governors. However, you can still create profiles to regulate the CPU based on perameters that you set, i.e. Screen off 216/216
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So all G2x see the same in setcpu - no autodetect and only governor available is "driver"?
Will custom ROMs like CM7 change this?
SetCPU improved my battery life tremendously! Before I was losing about 15-30% and hour, since 8:30 this morning my battery only dropped to 73%. I set my active profile between 457mhz and 816mhz depending on remaining battery and it's still fast as hell.
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So all G2x see the same in setcpu - no autodetect and only governor available is "driver"?
Will custom ROMs like CM7 change this?
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From what I've heard, yes, that is what every g2x setcpu user sees. I don't know whether CM7 will fix this, or maybe later versions of setcpu
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From what I've heard, yes, that is what every g2x setcpu user sees. I don't know whether CM7 will fix this, or maybe later versions of setcpu
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Once we get some custom kernels, we should be able to change the governors in setCPU, dependent upon on what the kernel supports.
SetCPU Custom Frequencies for G2X
I got SetCPU today and was playing around with it and it looked like it was limiting my CPU all the time due to lack of profile, not just when I had the screen off per my profile so I looked into making a text file for custom frequencies and am posting it here since there doesn't seem to be any help for g2x with it.
This is a really simple file, tell me if you guys have any better ideas, I just put in:
216000,528000,712400,1000000
I'm attaching it. I put the file in my dropbox, grabbed it via the app and then moved it to /sdcard/setcpu.txt via astro file manager then loaded custom profile from within setcpu. Hopefully this saves someone some time or you can tell me if I'm going about this the wrong way
I'm sure it could be fine tuned more but I was getting irritated at how much of a pain it was to unlock the phone with it set too low, so for screen off I have it set to 216->528. You could add 254000 in or something. The phone seems to be as usable as before now with setcpu enabled like this while it should be limiting the cpu when the screen is off. It sucked (well not the battery) without a custom profile.
socalTNT said:
You need to be rooted so that you can let set CPU have super user access. Are you rooted yet?
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rooted?????? what is that?
TheMightiest1981 said:
SetCPU improved my battery life tremendously! Before I was losing about 15-30% and hour, since 8:30 this morning my battery only dropped to 73%. I set my active profile between 457mhz and 816mhz depending on remaining battery and it's still fast as hell.
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Yep, I agree. My phone has been off the charger for almost 9 hours, and I'm at 70%.
I have everything on, including wifi calling, and one profile in Setcpu for screen off 216/216.
Also used the battery calibration app.
Profondo_Rosso said:
Yep, I agree. My phone has been off the charger for almost 9 hours, and I'm at 70%.
I have everything on, including wifi calling, and one profile in Setcpu for screen off 216/216.
Also used the battery calibration app.
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Im assuming u did little to no use. I did moderate use and im down to 52% after 4hrs
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I tried that 216/216 profile and got the sleep of death followed by reboot loop every few minutes after the phone booted. wouldn't stop till I manually powered the phone down then back on. oh well... my phone idles fine anyway. wonder what clock speed android idles at by default.
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Im assuming u did little to no use. I did moderate use and im down to 52% after 4hrs
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Actually, your assumption is wrong, as is often the case.
I'd quantify it more as normal use. Lots of texts, some games of Pro pool, a few phone calls, checking Pulse 3-4 times during the day for 10 minutes at a time, some mild web browsing and watching a few youtube videos.
I ended up at around 18-19 hours of of use.
Today, I'm off the charger for 8 hours, and I still have 45% left, and I would say that's with some moderate to heavy use.
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I tried that 216/216 profile and got the sleep of death followed by reboot loop every few minutes after the phone booted. wouldn't stop till I manually powered the phone down then back on. oh well... my phone idles fine anyway. wonder what clock speed android idles at by default.
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Try upping it to 216/312 or a tad higher and you should be fine.
I've noticed significant battery drain on all the CM7 ROMs available at the moment. Some users report better battery usage (6-7 mA) than others (anywhere between 14-70 mA), so my questions are:
1. what is your idle usage? Use battery monitor widget to find out
2. what radio do you use?
3. do you find mobile standby/cell standby always consuming the highest drain, even when you have been actively using your phone?
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I've noticed significant battery drain on all the CM7 ROMs available at the moment. Some users report better battery usage (6-7 mA) than others (anywhere between 14-70 mA), so my questions are:
1. what is your idle usage? Use battery monitor widget to find out
2. what radio do you use?
3. do you find mobile standby/cell standby always consuming the highest drain, even when you have been actively using your phone?
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1. Iddle consumption seems to be at 7ma
2. 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
3. Android System is highest at 56%, Mobile Standby follows it with 16%.
I'm on Superkid's CM 1.3 + Tiamat 1.0.4.1 with 2G only, sync off and CPU at 652 min and 1190 max, smartass.
Not running cm7 myself running with lbc but weve also identified a battery drain issue recently, we have come to conclusion that its intermittent and happens when wi fi is enabled.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194786
Running with the latest radio 06.02.03
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1. Iddle consumption seems to be at 7ma
2. 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
3. Android System is highest at 56%, Mobile Standby follows it with 16%.
I'm on Superkid's CM 1.3 + Tiamat 1.0.4.1 with 2G only, sync off and CPU at 652 min and 1190 max, smartass.
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I'm using SuperKid's 1.3 + Tiamat 1.0.4.1 with 2G, sync off as well. However I'm using radio 20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M, and my idle usage never drops below 14mA. I tried using the radio you use, however my idle fluctuated around the 20s and 30s with that. I'm so baffled as to why this is the case. Could it be dependent on the type of SD card?
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Not running cm7 myself running with lbc but weve also identified a battery drain issue recently, we have come to conclusion that its intermittent and happens when wi fi is enabled.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194786
Running with the latest radio 06.02.03
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I am experiencing drains regardless of the WiFi. Every radio I've tried except hte default one it came with (in the post above) the idle power usage fluctuates heavily. But no matter what it never drops below 14 mA. I'm trying to figure out why it never hits single figures like some people are getting. It's not intermittent, it just refuses to drop below 14 mA.
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I'm so baffled as to why this is the case.
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I'm not an expert for sure but please try the following as there'll be no harm anyway. Go into recovery, wipe cache + dalvic cache and then reflash Tiamat 1.0.4.1.
I wasn't doing any measurements before but I'm pretty sure that my battery drain used to be higher before I've done that. See if it helps.
rubbish said:
I'm not an expert for sure but please try the following as there'll be no harm anyway. Go into recovery, wipe cache + dalvic cache and then reflash Tiamat 1.0.4.1.
I wasn't doing any measurements before but I'm pretty sure that my battery drain used to be higher before I've done that. See if it helps.
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Thank you. Trying that now.
Can you let me know if you did the boot image fix posted by NeoLojik after doing the above?
No, I didn't. I've tryed it at the earlier stage but since it broke wi fi I reflashed the original kernel (which was Carniab's test version at this time I think) and never got back to it.
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No, I didn't. I've tryed it at the earlier stage but since it broke wi fi I reflashed the original kernel (which was Carniab's test version at this time I think) and never got back to it.
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Thanks. I'll try to clone your config and post with my results.
Tried your method above, but it doesn't go below 14 mA. I also tried a different SD card and still no luck.
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Hi,
with CM 7.1.0 RC 1 and tiamat kernel v1.0.4.1, my Desire S consumption in sleep mode (no wifi, no bluetooth, Edge/3G enabled) is going down to 10-12 mA.
My best figure was with LBC mod 0.5.4 where it was 9 mA.
My radio is 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
Mobile Standby is 24% (which i find a bit weird too, with virtous/lbc never had that).
CPU is set to: smartass, 268-1036 Mhz
Overall i have no issue with CM 7 beta 1.1
zas666 said:
Hi,
with CM 7.1.0 RC 1 and tiamat kernel v1.0.4.1, my Desire S consumption in sleep mode (no wifi, no bluetooth, Edge/3G enabled) is going down to 10-12 mA.
My best figure was with LBC mod 0.5.4 where it was 9 mA.
My radio is 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
Mobile Standby is 24% (which i find a bit weird too, with virtous/lbc never had that).
CPU is set to: smartass, 268-1036 Mhz
Overall i have no issue with CM 7 beta 1.1
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Thanks for the reply.
When your mobile standby was on 24% what was your phone usage like since you unplugged it?
Gsm only and almost no data since it was using wifi for data. No phone calls. ATM it is 25% ...
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i'm also use this radio & cM7 , but my gf found that my sound is lower than the sense rom while making a phone call
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Tried your method above, but it doesn't go below 14 mA. I also tried a different SD card and still no luck.
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Hi dj
The difference between our measurements could be due to us using different tools? I've been using Battery monitor widget which, as I've read today, tends to give inaccurate (lower than in reality) figures. I'm currently on 1.3.2 version of CM from Superkid and BMW was also showing 6 or 7 mA. So I've installed Currentwidget and it displays figure of 12mA in sleep mode. This isn't far off from what you get.
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Hi dj
The difference between our measurements could be due to us using different tools? I've been using Battery monitor widget which, as I've read today, tends to give inaccurate (lower than in reality) figures. I'm currently on 1.3.2 version of CM from Superkid and BMW was also showing 6 or 7 mA. So I've installed Currentwidget and it displays figure of 12mA in sleep mode. This isn't far off from what you get.
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I was using Battery Monitor Widget as well, and was getting 14 mA on that.
How do you check idle power on Current Widget? I just put it on my home screen using default settings, switched my phone to sleep for a minutes, then turned on the screen and it said 28 mA..
how about your battery?
is it a fake one?
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I just put it on my home screen using default settings, switched my phone to sleep for a minutes, then turned on the screen and it said 28 mA..
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That's how I do it as well. 12mA. Could it be that you have poor signal coverage in your area? I can't think of anything else.
labstar said:
how about your battery?
is it a fake one?
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Nope, brand new phone with the original battery. Maybe it's defective?
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That's how I do it as well. 12mA. Could it be that you have poor signal coverage in your area? I can't think of anything else.
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I kept it on forced 2G mode, and the signal was very good..
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
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OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
loonatik78 said:
I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
warmonster said:
how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
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You are right, my bad... it throws up a disclaimer that GPS enabling is not available on any 2.3 ROM because of the Pop-up. They suggest using Cyanogen (sp) if you want to use the feature on a 2.3 ROM.
andydumi said:
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
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Potato, Patahto. I like Tasker and found it really granular once I started playing with it. I don't mind paying for an app that is well Developed and supported. (If you like Llama that much, you should use the donate version to "thank" the Dev team!) The 23hrs is an estimated capacity right now as Battery Left is still calibrating.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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I think he is refering to roms based off the 2.11 leak. battery life in that Ruu is much better than any other previous ruu. Any roms based off it will give you more life by default. The bamf 4.9 Rom is kinda old when your talking about custom roms and it isn't based on the 2.11 ruu.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
TDubKong said:
I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Further proving Einstein's point... The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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If you can point me to a ROM that has full Sense 3.0 and the latest GB leak, please point me in that direction.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
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Considering I do use a bunch of Apps that can use GPS (Foursquare, Weather, and my Car Dock=Car Home) and I don't always need GPS on to do what I do in them, I choose to have GPS inactive as to not chew up more battery than is necessary.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
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I have never and will never use a task killer. Tasker is basically a way to create a 'macro' or series of them to help do things without having to click 18 different things on your phone. Apples to oranges.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
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As I said, if there is a viable full Sense 3.0 ROM with the latest RUU out there, please let me know what it is. Until that happens, I will use Tasker to fix the flaws that exist in my current RUU/ROM.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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Really...newer kernels don't work with BAMF 3.0 RC4.9??? That's funny because I'm running Ziggy's latest on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9 with working WiFi and camera, front and back.
Out of all the 3.0, 2.1/3.0 ROM's this is the only one that I have never missed a call because I could not answer the phone because of the end only call bug.
It might be an older ROM but it's still one of the best for this phone.
UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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End-call only bug is real. In 2 months of running bamf (currently on uber 3), I've encountered it once. Others have been plagued with it. Basically, when someone calls, it only displays the large "end call" button.
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bp328i said:
Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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I hardly call Ziggy's kernel freely available by any stretch of the imagination. That's like saying iOS is free to anyone to use. Not really if you ONLY get it with this product or that! Ziggy also flouts the GPL like it's no big deal, so obtaining his source is nigh impossible. He's got one of the least available kernels that exists.
Sense 3.0 is eye candy. Like live wallpaper, its cool for a day, that's about it. And Rosie launcher is weak. I mean, if that's your thing, cool. It's your phone. But AOSP roms are far beyond BAMF, and far more stable. Shift B2 is the best rom I've run on my Bolt, hands down. With G+ loaded I get between 18-22 hours moderate use. Without G+ I can get a little over 28 hours. This is all 3G, as our towers havent been upgraded yet here in BFE. I understand the desire for battery life on stock battery. I pocket mine for 8 hours a day, so extended battery is unappealing. I underclock to 768 and my phone is still more responsive than it was with sense at 1.4.