Hi I sold an unlocked xpress rom tp2 to a guy who had verizon.. he said verizon would not activate it at the verizon place.. i thought it would work??
well **** he did ebay dispute and it took the money out of my paypal acct! talked to him on the phone and he is sending phone back tomorrow.. learned something today ;/
Of course the company isn't going to support a custom ROM. I would have sked for my money back too. You should have returned it to stock conditions before selling it.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Of course the company isn't going to support a custom ROM. I would have sked for my money back too. You should have returned it to stock conditions before selling it.
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custom rom wont affect activation, the fact that it was a uscc phone caused the problem, next time only say it will work on uscc unless it has a bad esn
Diamond_dawg said:
custom rom wont affect activation, the fact that it was a uscc phone caused the problem, next time only say it will work on uscc unless it has a bad esn
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Using a branded phone doesn't make a difference so long as you are going from GSM to GSM or CDMA to CDMA. Verizon and USC both are CDMA. Several people on these forums have done the same thing.
He said the other guy took his phone into a Verizon store. If they see you aren't running the stock ROM, they will refuse to activate it. I used to do the same thing when I worked for T-Mobile. We could take someone with an AT&T phone and port their number, but if we found out they used a custom ROM, then they would have to get a new device.
Custom ROMs are never, ever supported by carriers. I'm not saying that this is definitely the problem, but it is very likely.
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Using a branded phone doesn't make a difference so long as you are going from GSM to GSM or CDMA to CDMA. Verizon and USC both are CDMA. Several people on these forums have done the same thing.
He said the other guy took his phone into a Verizon store. If they see you aren't running the stock ROM, they will refuse to activate it. I used to do the same thing when I worked for T-Mobile. We could take someone with an AT&T phone and port their number, but if we found out they used a custom ROM, then they would have to get a new device.
Custom ROMs are never, ever supported by carriers. I'm not saying that this is definitely the problem, but it is very likely.
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You need to Learn a bit more on CDMA. Just cause a phone is unlocked won't mean it can be used on other carriers. Verizon has to add the esn to their database after Whiich he can have a Verizon line added to it. So it's not the same as gsm
Yeah guy took it to verizon and they actually tried working with him but no luck with activation over the phone..they didn't care that it was uscc supposedly... Thanks for the help.. To bad these a hole carriers won't do WHAT THEIR TOLD! AH HA.. Thanks for info
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tp2me said:
Yeah guy took it to verizon and they actually tried working with him but no luck with activation over the phone..they didn't care that it was uscc supposedly... Thanks for the help.. To bad these a hole carriers won't do WHAT THEIR TOLD! AH HA.. Thanks for info
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Same thing happened with boost. They could not activate it cuz it was not added to the database. I think only metro pcs would do it for a fee. Not releally sure
Verizon will NOT add a foreign esn to their database. They will only activate verizon phones.
yup, Verizon doesn't activate anyone else's phones. Only phones with ESN's they have in their own database and they won't add a phone to it just cause you want them to.
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Hi All.
I visited my local Carphone Warehouse shop in Dorchester yesterday where I was looking to buy the Samsung Galaxy Ace mobile phone. On all networks it was £199.99 except for ThreeUK which was only £120.00.
Having previously unlocked, rooted and custom ROM'd the Ace (thanks to XDA dev's) I thought I'd buy it on ThreeUK and put it on Vodafone when I got to the computer.
I asked the cocky know-it-all chump for the phone and got out my cash and he started ranting something about was I upgrading a PAYG mobile or did I need to transfer my number to the new SIM card.
I told him I did not need the SIM card as I had my own already but he informed me that the SIM the phone was sold with would be the only SIM that would work in it and using another SIM would IMEI block the phone.
Now I have never heard of this before and I regulary read stuff on XDA and I have seen any mention of it here either.
I thought he was just making sure he couldn't blag another 80 quid out of me so I decided to be the know-it-all chump and told him I didn't care as I was unlocking it and installing a different ROM anyway.
He told me that the PAYG SIM was tied to the IMEI number and I qoute, "as the networks are loosing too much money with unlocked phones".
I decided not to buy the phone as £120 was alot of money to lose if he was right and I could hardly go back with it blocked after this conversation.
Personally while a good idea, at least in principle from the networks point of view I can see too many negative issues arising from doing this.
Can anyone clarify any of this?
Can't believe that a different sim card could block the phone after it has been rooted?
Complete Bull. Impossible to do this as the network do not know if the handset you are using is unlocked or not. Also if you had your voda sim in the handset only voda would be able to nlock your phone as only they would see the IMEI being used. 3 would not know you are using another phone. Also the network only owns your sim not your phone. As a consumer it is up to you what you do with the phone. Hope this helps.
Not sure about those carriers but ATT has been locking phones to one sim card when activated. Only on prepaid at the moment but it shows it can be and is being done.
Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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thre3aces said:
Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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Think what you will. Try it for yourself and see. The carriers here have been trying to think of a way to only allow phones they say to work on the network. Take verzion and sprint. They can refuse to activate any phone that is not in their system. ATT is working on a way to do this also.
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Utter bull****. As mentioned above if you are buying a sim free phone then you are buying a a free phone and you can do whatever you want with the lgone
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He was talking of a phone on a uk network subsidised by the operator called three, unless I misunderstood.
In uk phones subsidised by some networks are locked so they will only work with specific networks sims and some have been imei locked by using msin method where only one card will work in the phone.
However if you can root the device and flash non branded firmware I think that overwrites the lock and enables non three sims.
Dave
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he informed me that the SIM the phone was sold with would be the only SIM that would work in it and using another SIM would IMEI block the phone.
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His wording is misappropriated: what he probably meant was that the phone was locked to the carrier so you wouldn't get network access. IMEI blocking only happens when reported lost/stolen.
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However if you can root the device and flash non branded firmware I think that overwrites the lock and enables non three sims.
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Well I hope your right Dave. I think 'thre3aces' is pretty much on the money with what was said to me at CW. I'm hoping the way of countering this will be as you said, by rooting / debranding and/or flashing the ROM and not by simular more complicated methods (in most cases) of unlocking the networks.
I don't think though that there is too much to worry about. It has never been a long wait for us modders to hack our phones after some fantastic new security device is wrecked by the likes of George Hotz (blackra1n) and the MadTeam's of the world etc.
And this whole thing stinks of Apple!
The staff at phone shops (cpw/p4u) are full of bimbos whom have little or no knowledge of what they are talking about.
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Well I hope your right Dave. I think 'thre3aces' is pretty much on the money with what was said to me at CW. I'm hoping the way of countering this will be as you said, by rooting / debranding and/or flashing the ROM and not by simular more complicated methods (in most cases) of unlocking the networks.
I don't think though that there is too much to worry about. It has never been a long wait for us modders to hack our phones after some fantastic new security device is wrecked by the likes of George Hotz (blackra1n) and the MadTeam's of the world etc.
And this whole thing stinks of Apple!
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Thre3aces was on about sim free phones but if you were on about a carrier subsidised payg one then yes carriers tend to lock them though only 3 and I think vodafone have been known to imei lock to one sim card and even then not very often.
I would assume the lock is firmware related though that is an assumption but if it were hardware locked then users would need a new phone if sims got damaged and that would cost more money hence the reason a firmware lock is more probable as they could more easily alter that.
If you had problems though maybe you could get a friend on 3 to ring them and say they bought a 3 phone and tried to input their sim but it failed...as an existing customer maybe three would unlock it for them?
Dave
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Hi, My friend Joined Boost Mobile and they gave him an HTC One. He is not happy with Boost and is going to change carriers. He wants to know if he can flash his phone for another carrier like Sprint or Verizon or ATT or T-mobile or is he better off selling the phone on Ebay and getting a phone through his new carrier? Does this Boost phone even have a sim?? He says it doesn't.
Thanks for any input you can give.
HTC ONE?
unsatisfied?
boost is a CDMA carrier so no, it would not have a SIM
tell him I'll purchase it from him if he's serious about selling it.
flashing it to another carrier he would be limited to only CDMA carriers like Sprint or Verizon
AT&T is out of the question
and most likely whoever(if successful) he flashed the device to..... something would be broken
i.e. he might be able to get calls and text but would not be able to surf web without Wi-Fi or get mms.
unless he's a super developer/hacker it would be in his best interest to sell the device and buy another from a more satisfying carrier....(Verizon) is best in my opinion.......
let me know if he's up to selling to me, I'm not a cheapskate, but I'm not a moron either so keep the price fair..
#EDIT# are you sure it's not a HTC OneSV?
There is a guy who flashed a sprint Samsung S4 over to boost so he wouldn't be stuck on a contract lol. He was successful doing it. The guy posted a video on it over on YouTube. Pretty legit I thought .
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Looking to buy used unlocked att or factory unlocked g3 on swappa to activate on straight talk ( I've also heard Verizon might work too?). I do not want to buy a fake! (A good camera and IR blaster are a must for me) I feel if I had the phone in hand I could tell but what can I ask from the seller to confirm its real? What if I ask for pic of page with sn,software version ,kernel etc What would I even be looking for ? Or can that page be spoofed as well?
Please help this newbie
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Looking to buy used unlocked att or factory unlocked g3 on swappa to activate on straight talk ( I've also heard Verizon might work too?). I do not want to buy a fake! (A good camera and IR blaster are a must for me) I feel if I had the phone in hand I could tell but what can I ask from the seller to confirm its real? What if I ask for pic of page with sn,software version ,kernel etc What would I even be looking for ? Or can that page be spoofed as well?
Please help this newbie
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You cannot buy them for use on Verizon. Straight talk is several different resellers. But verizon no. Verizon is a cdma carrier. AT&T and factory unlocked phones are GSM. For Verizon you'd need a Verizon phone or sprint phone.
People DONT sell fakes on Swappa as its not allowed.
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You cannot buy them for use on Verizon. Straight talk is several different resellers. But verizon no. Verizon is a cdma carrier. AT&T and factory unlocked phones are GSM. For Verizon you'd need a Verizon phone or sprint phone.
People DONT sell fakes on Swappa as its not allowed.
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Yes ill stick with att I know they work with st. As far as fakes not allowed we know people lie and cheat and not follow rules so is there some type of guarantee swappa makes that every phone is genuine? They wouldnt even answer my question about what happens when some one sells me thier in contract phone (wich at that point would have a clean imei) and then stops paying thier bill 3 months later and they block the phone? Wich is why I'm only looking at phones saying unlocked there again Noway to prove I guess. there's gotta be one thing to check or get pic of that proves its real
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Yes ill stick with att I know they work with st. As far as fakes not allowed we know people lie and cheat and not follow rules so is there some type of guarantee swappa makes that every phone is genuine? They wouldnt even answer my question about what happens when some one sells me thier in contract phone (wich at that point would have a clean imei) and then stops paying thier bill 3 months later and they block the phone? Wich is why I'm only looking at phones saying unlocked there again Noway to prove I guess. there's gotta be one thing to check or get pic of that proves its real
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First off as I said above AT&T phones WONT work on Verizon, which is what you asked. Yes they will work on ST AT&T, ST T-Mobile, but will not work on ST Verizon. If you buy it expecting to be on Verizon's network you'll be disappointed. Straight talk is sold across several different networks.
Well if you'd read about Swappa when someone sells there phones they HAVE to enter an IMEI for one and in which will tell Swappa if it's on a paid account EDGE, NEXT, etc. and which is not allowed there.
The only thing that could possibly happen is if someone reports it stolen after selling and In which there's no way to find that out.
I have sold a ton of things on Swappa as well as buying on Swappa.
Also if you would look at a phone listing you would see they have Feedback, which I'm sure someone that has sold a few + phones with no issues I'm sure Your not going to buy a fake or junk phone.
There's no real thing or pic to prove anything. I could sell you a note 1 and make it say it's a note 4 in the software but just a screenshot you might not ever know lol.
Also a bit of a hint unlocked phones cannot save you from that unless your in another country. If you have a dead IMEI on say a T-Mobile phone even if it's unlocked you still cannot use it on AT&T
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Thanks for the info! I may not be explaining well I'm not going to verizon I'm wanting to use straight talk who advertises you can bring any GSM phone when I called was told att brand works best. I thought the other was verizon but like u said that's CDMA maybe t-mobile was the other compatible? Idk anyway I'm happy to hear about the contract phone not being issue I had read that could happen maybe it wasn't a payment issue after all. Maybe it had been reported stolen after he bought.
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.. Well if you'd read about Swappa when someone sells there phones they HAVE to enter an IMEI for one and in which will tell Swappa if it's on a paid account EDGE, NEXT, etc. and which is not allowed there. ..
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I'm pretty sure IMEI checks for ATT phones tell you nothing about the contract status of a phone, only if it's been blacklisted (lost or stolen)--
TMO phones OTOH will receive the additional information on EIP status, in-contract status, etc.
ATT should be forced to provide the same AFAIC.
You can use CDMA phones on Straight Talk. The kit you buy gives you the network info for CDMA phones and the SIM card for GSM.
Hi all,
I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 that I got with a 2 year contract with Verizon. That contract is up and I like the phone very much. I saw that I could save a lot of money with Ting as my carrier (Ting.com) and bought a SIM card from them. I followed all of the Ting instructions, but working with their support staff apparently they have issues working with phones that did not come from Sprint or Tmobile. I can make calls with my phone through Ting, but texts do not work and when I call voicemail it gives me an error. This error might be because the phone is still calling the Verizon service for voicemail, which is cancelled.
If I root my phone (never done it before) can I bring it back to the manufacturer settings before Verizon put any software on it? If so, what software/ROM do you recommend to get it back to factory settings. I think this is my only chance to get Ting to work with this phone. I don't want to have to sign up with Verizon or ATT and pay activation fees.
I appreciate the help.
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Hi all,
I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 that I got with a 2 year contract with Verizon. That contract is up and I like the phone very much. I saw that I could save a lot of money with Ting as my carrier (Ting.com) and bought a SIM card from them. I followed all of the Ting instructions, but working with their support staff apparently they have issues working with phones that did not come from Sprint or Tmobile. I can make calls with my phone through Ting, but texts do not work and when I call voicemail it gives me an error. This error might be because the phone is still calling the Verizon service for voicemail, which is cancelled.
If I root my phone (never done it before) can I bring it back to the manufacturer settings before Verizon put any software on it? If so, what software/ROM do you recommend to get it back to factory settings. I think this is my only chance to get Ting to work with this phone. I don't want to have to sign up with Verizon or ATT and pay activation fees.
I appreciate the help.
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Hi, thanks for using XDA assist!
The problem here is that Verizon is a GSM carrier and Sprint is CDMA.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635776
Good luck!
Evolution_Tech said:
Hi, thanks for using XDA assist!
The problem here is that Verizon is a GSM carrier and Sprint is CDMA.
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Good luck!
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Thanks for responding. Actually Ting has deals with Tmobile and Sprint so it works. I am GSM and the phone says Tmobile at the top now, so I dont think that is the issue. Do you know if my idea regarding rooting will work?
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Thanks for responding. Actually Ting has deals with Tmobile and Sprint so it works. I am GSM and the phone says Tmobile at the top now, so I dont think that is the issue. Do you know if my idea regarding rooting will work?
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Unfortunately, I don't think that will work. I know from repairing phones, that phones built for Verizon have different internal hardware than phones built for Sprint. While it may be possible that I'm wrong, and your phone might be successfully ported to Ting, I feel it is highly unlikely.
I think you should contact Ting customer support and get a definite answer before proceeding.
Hi,
Just curious if the AT&T Lg v10 would work on cricket? I have been buying factory unlocked phones for the past year and half so am a bit out of loop. I know older att phone models worked on cricket but I did see a few cases of it not working in the newer threads online. Just want to check before getting it.
Thanks
chopchopw said:
Hi,
Just curious if the AT&T Lg v10 would work on cricket? I have been buying factory unlocked phones for the past year and half so am a bit out of loop. I know older att phone models worked on cricket but I did see a few cases of it not working in the newer threads online. Just want to check before getting it.
Thanks
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You can buy a locked AT&T V10 and use it on Cricket (owned by AT&T). It does not need to be unlocked. Same applies for any AT&T MNVO too. In theory, but it seems youve found people posting that for them their phones haven't worked...
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You can buy a locked AT&T V10 and use it on Cricket (owned by AT&T). It does not need to be unlocked. Same applies for any AT&T MNVO too. In theory, but it seems youve found people posting that for them their phones haven't worked...
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Thanks man. I know in theory it should work just a bit hesitant since ATT has been having a lot of new restrictions with new android phones like bootloader lock.
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Thanks man. I know in theory it should work just a bit hesitant since ATT has been having a lot of new restrictions with new android phones like bootloader lock.
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All carriers used to be boot loader locked. That's not new. And as far as AT&T and T-Mobile they welcome each others phones, they like stealing each others customers.
Verizon phone cricket service
Wanted to share I bought a Verizon v10 off eBay (they come unlocked out of the box) took it to cricket, tweaked a few settings and it's worked perfectly for three weeks now.
Im using my v10 on Cricket right now and it works well! Just wont get any updates unless you use an att active sim card.
My v10 is from AT&T and I currently use it on cricket.
My GF's v10 is from Verizon, and she also uses it on cricket. She just had to set the apn.
I use my locked ATT V10 on crickets network. The only real issue is so far it can't update to MM since I'm not a ATT customer.
Bought an lgv10 Unlocked Verizon currently on cricket but won't get any service every time I try to turn my data on it says to contact customer service I don't know what to do please help
Rey-a12 said:
Bought an lgv10 Unlocked Verizon currently on cricket but won't get any service every time I try to turn my data on it says to contact customer service I don't know what to do please help
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do you have the APN settings correct? if not, enter the correct APN, enable it, then restart your phone. it should work.
you can just slip in the sim card and hope it works. find your APN settings...
https://apn.gishan.net/settings/1255_22_cricket_apn_settings_for_lg_v10.php
not sure if I'm allowed to paste the link to another site if its not from xda forums... if so... my bad
LG V10 on Cricket
chopchopw said:
Hi,
Just curious if the AT&T Lg v10 would work on cricket? I have been buying factory unlocked phones for the past year and half so am a bit out of loop. I know older att phone models worked on cricket but I did see a few cases of it not working in the newer threads online. Just want to check before getting it.
Thanks
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Good day. I am currently running 3 LG V10's on Cricket. So far, so good. Make sure you check your IMEI number with them FIRST !
Anyone have experience with the V10 on mintsim or textnow