Hi,
Could anyone tell me what's the rationale behind this:
When the device connects to the internet via 3G in order to receive mail or whatever, it will just stay connected until you bother to manually disconnect it. But when using wifi, which unlike 3G doesn't cost by the byte, it will disconnect as soon as the screen goes off?
Why on earth is that? Instead of running the hell away from cellular internet as soon as possible it does so with the free wifi? Is there any way to change this behavior? Or am I the only one who's bothered by this?
Besides that, more often than not, I'm having problems connecting to wifi... sometimes it would attempt to connect to a network and then give up and say it's unavailable (even though the signal is excellent and I'm right by the AP). other times, it appears connected but there's no internet... anyone else has these problems? Is my device defective?
Sorry if I'm ranting...
Thanks!
I think the behaviour is to save energy. When the screen goes off, the device "thinks" you don't use it anymore. Wifi drains your battery very fast, so the phone tries to reduce it.
For 3G it's the point, that there isn't much data transfer in order to stay connected. Maybe a few kb for the whole day (I don't know if there is any data transfer anyway, but when it's verly little). That's much cheaper than to pay for the full block (for example 100kb) everytime you disconnect. So staying connected saves money in most cases. That's why.
Connection problems: Do you use any encryption? Maybe that's the problem. So far I use wifi only for data transfers between my Macbook and the device. But I don't have any problems.
If you search hard enough you can find apps that might jus tkeep it on.
One such app is KaiserTweak which will keep that wifi on when screen goes off. problem with kaisertweak is that i have heard it can hard reset some peoples devvices, depending on what options you select.
i might give it a whirl because i hate it when my connection is lost, i end up using my data connection when i dont need to as it tries to take over when device wakes up!
edit: seems ok so far no hardreset yet!
Thanks, will try that.
I flashed a 6.1 rom and it seems to have made an improvement. Now it would connect fine to my home router every time and not just occasionally (it uses the most basic wep encryption). Still no luck at work though... just as before it appears connected but I can't reach anything inside or outside the lan. The encryption there is the more secure wpa-psk and there's no mac filtering.
Anyone successfully connected to a wpa wlan?
I've been triying to figure this out for awhile but here's the basics of what's going on:
I have a Japanese HTC Touch Pro, (and yes EVERYTHING is in Japanese, but this doesn't really bother me.) We don't have MMS over here, so we use a constant 3G connection and mopera U to push email to the phone.
So, when i'm in my Comm Manager I have a Data connection on as well as the phone connection.
If I try to turn on my WiFi it will turn off after 3 seconds (just enables it and disables it)
If I try to use my bluetooth connection, same thing (enables BT, then turns it off again)
If I connect my phone to my PC via USB it will try to connect at first, but will suddenly disconnect after a few seconds.
Well, I figgured out that Active Sync won't allow the connection while the phone portion is turned on. Easy enough, I turn my phone into flight mode and it connects just fine and syncs. While this is a tad retarded, I will accept it.
However, In order to get bluetooth to work, i need to disable the 3G connection. Now.. here's what I don't like:
I *HAVE* to have my data connection for email/internet or anything. But, the phone will only seem to allow either the Data connection through the 3G OR bluetooth/wifi, not both.
Now, if I have BT enabled first, then try to establish the data connection I get an error telling me it cannot connect to the 3G network, same effect though, it will try.. just won't allow it.
What really makes me mad is i'm not wanting to have it networked to anything, I just wanna pair it with a headset so I can listen to the mp3 player while on the train and send out emails from my phone.
I tried calling HTC (good help that was) about it, and they suggested hard reseting the phone, soft reset, ect ect.. There's not really a problem, i'm sure there's just a setting somewhere to allow the multiple connections at one.
Does anyone know of any tricks or ANYTHING I can do so I can use my phone the way it was intended?
Did you ever find an answer to this? I am having a similar problem with my Fuze. When bluetooth is enabled, eventually the phone begins to refuse to open a data connection. :-(
No, i never found an answer. I'm not tech savvy enough to find it out.
But its REALLY annoying. I just want to use my USB headset, not connect bluetooth to any network or route messages that way.
Not sure if this is the fix to your problem, but this helped me when Wifi kept turning off, its a setting in WinMoDevCenter, it stops all data connections when connected to sync
in WinMoDevCentre go to Mobile Device settings -> Connection Settings -> Allow Data connections (last check box)
after that i was able to use wifi while plugged in just fine
Even though WiFi is up and running, my phone keeps getting connected via GPRS automatically. Although most programs use the WiFi connection, sometimes they switch over to GPRS. Also, when I reboot the phone, WiFi gets deactivated and GPRS kicks in automatically. Of course, this is a bad thing since my carrier allows only 1MB of downstream on GPRS.
The other problem is that WiFi keeps getting disconnected after a period of inactivity. Now I don't mind this happening as it saves battery, but I don't want this to happen when I'm at a place having access to a power source. Strictly speaking, I could live with the WiFi getting disconnected, but the irritating thing is that sometimes it just doesn't reconnect - instead, a baloon pops up informing me of all other wireless networks available - my network isn't listed! Then after a few more minutes, it automagically connects to my network. Sometimes, to get the wifi to connect, all I have to do is click on the "G" icon (I'm about to open the wireless manager) and the WiFi starts to connect! Just w.t.h is going on here? :S
Now the common "solution" for the GPRS problem that's floating around the net is to use a program that disables the GPRS connection, like Modaco NoData or such, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution (regtweak?) by which:
1) GPRS is never connected and if connected, never used by any program IF there's an active WiFi connection
2) When the phone (re)boots, WiFi should be activated and if any "known" networks are found, should connect to it automatically, else it should be deactivated
3) Perhaps WiFi/GPRS can be enabled/disabled based on the cellid/GPS and/or time schedules? Now I know of programs that can do this, but I'm looking for something extremly light, preferably which doesn't have a GUI and/or runs as a service and can be configured by xml/ini/reg (or maybe have a seperate GUI for settings)
Any ideas people?
Thanks for your time.
Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well. Thx.
Yeah, I changed phones. Didn't face this issue on a Diamond and a Hermes.
got the same problem with my tg01 keeps dropping wifi and keeps connecting to gprs when wifi is on
Having an issue with the Tab 2 where you go to pick it up and start browsing after it has been sitting around a while (not sure if the time matters, but it seems like after sitting for most of the day) and the wifi is still connected, but nothing works than needs data. It acts like it would if you had not internet connection. Toggling the wifi off and on will fix the issue and notificaitons and emails start pouring in.
Anyone else have this problem? I found a similar issue on the 7.7 forums but nobody reported a solution and I am not even sure if it would have worked on the Tab 2 anyways. I am thinking about making a script that toggles the wifi automatically if it detects it can't connect to the internet. But that is a little ridiculous needing to do that. It shouldn't be losing connection in the first place.
Hi Pirate
it's a bit depending on the ROM you have installed - but since Android 4 you have a quite reliable setting. The default behavior of Android devices is to deactivate the wifi connection when it goes to sleep.
Some ROMs don't recognize the disconnection and the switch/button still shows "Wifi on" although disconnected.
First step: go to settings / wifi settings, hit the menu button (top right three dots) and check the advanced settings.
Somewhat like "Keep WLAN active in standby" - set this to always.
That should solve it already under android 4.x
If this doesn't help, look into Play Store - search for "wifi keep alive". But for the SGT 2 you shouldn't need it
Greetz - Chris
It was already set to "Always" so I don't think that will help. I will look at that app to see what it does.
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wifi turns off when not in use to save battery. I think it might be a default even if you have it set to always on.
guncrasher said:
wifi turns off when not in use to save battery. I think it might be a default even if you have it set to always on.
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The problem is that it never comes back on. Well it shows the wifi icon and the signal and everything but it just doesn't have any data connection. Any apps that use data act like wifi is off. The only way to get it to start working again is to toggle wifi or reboot. I also forgot to mention it is the stock ROM, only rooted. It got the OTA a few days ago too and it has happened since then.
You're not alone
Skurvy_Pirate said:
Having an issue with the Tab 2 where you go to pick it up and start browsing after it has been sitting around a while (not sure if the time matters, but it seems like after sitting for most of the day) and the wifi is still connected, but nothing works than needs data. It acts like it would if you had not internet connection. Toggling the wifi off and on will fix the issue and notificaitons and emails start pouring in.
Anyone else have this problem? I found a similar issue on the 7.7 forums but nobody reported a solution and I am not even sure if it would have worked on the Tab 2 anyways. I am thinking about making a script that toggles the wifi automatically if it detects it can't connect to the internet. But that is a little ridiculous needing to do that. It shouldn't be losing connection in the first place.
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It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
I know this isn't super helpful but I had the same bug you describe on the previous version of carbon. When I updated to the latest it seems to have stopped.
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I had similar issue with my aTab Phone 4 and TP-Link TL-WR941ND (OpenWRT)
After disabling WMM capability in the router the problem disappeared!
Change router lease time to "2weeks"
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Same issue.
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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Same issue. also using connectify and also tried all things you have described. If you find any solution please let me know.
I had the same problem on my Huawei Honor. You need to set static IP in wifi settings (when connecting to AP, press "show advanced settings").
Mine settings were:
IP adress: 192.168.1.75 (make sure other devices are not connected with this IP)
Gateway: 192.168.1.254 (it could be different. Use the same as you're using to connect to your router)
Network prefix length: 24
DNS 1: 8.8.8.8
DNS 2: 4.4.4.4
No option for static IP in connectify
jopsinas said:
I had the same problem on my Huawei Honor. You need to set static IP in wifi settings (when connecting to AP, press "show advanced settings").
Mine settings were:
IP adress: 192.168.1.75 (make sure other devices are not connected with this IP)
Gateway: 192.168.1.254 (it could be different. Use the same as you're using to connect to your router)
Network prefix length: 24
DNS 1: 8.8.8.8
DNS 2: 4.4.4.4
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There is no option in connectify for static IP and in USB wifi dongle also there is no option to set static IP.
Help!
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Same issue
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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1. I have had the exact same issue for (atleast) the past 2 years. Have survived by repeatedly turning wifi on and off.
2. I too use connectify. This issue doesnt seem to happen on every wifi connection (just like your case). Even more specifically, it seems to happen ONLY when I connect my phone to the hotspot created via my laptop (connectify).
3. Even when the internet is actually working, some apps do not seem to recognise that(take some time to realize it is working), while others are able to connect instantly. Specifially, whatsapp is unable to send/receive messages for about 1-2 mins, after which I receive a whole bunch of messages at once.
This does not seem to be an issue due to connectify as well. I have tried creating a hotspot from my laptop without using connectify as well, but unfortunately, nothing changed. Further, this does not happen when my phone connects to a hotspot created via connectify by some other pc. The wifi and internet work perfectly fine when connected to a hotspot created via my friends computer.
Further, this problem happens only when a mobile connects to the hotspot. Doesn't occur when another laptop/PC connects (not sure about tablets).
I have looked into every nook and cranny on the internet, explored every forum for any working solution, but have been unsuccessful. In fact, this is the first place where I saw the exact same problem as mine, and was wondering if you have found any solution to it .
karankahlon said:
It's the same effing stuff people suggest to every wifi glitch out there.
To people who think it's due to the wifi sleep policy: although I've set it to always, why would wifi not resume, after screen is turned on? It's not the wifi that gets disconnected, it's the internet (or the download speed) that stops working.
To people who suggest it's a power saving feature under low battery conditions: Sorry, I've tested it while charging and with full battery.
To people with the above two arguments: Connection to some routers works perfect with the phone. Like when I turn on the hotspot on another phone, the wifi works great. Also, wifi on the other phone from the same source (laptop used as internet access point) works well.
To people who suggest resetting the router or wifi on phone: The internet does start working again, but only for a few minutes. Even if the screen is turned on, the internet may stop working mid-download.
The actual situation is that the phone disconnects from the internet, but keeps showing a connection to wifi. Like I used connectify hotspot to create an access point, and after a few minutes, the phone moved from "connected clients" list to the "previously connected clients", even as the phone showed connected to wifi with even the download arrows blinking, but no internet (or download speed). This only happens with certain sources (of wifi). And other phones may work well with the same source.
I have tried (several times and in different orders and permutations) the following to no effect:
1. Resetting the router.
2. Resetting the wifi on laptop.
3. Resetting the wifi on phone.
4. Restarting the phone and laptop.
5. Static IPs, gateways and DNSs. (Even though the problem was not with connecting to wifi and even internet works momentarily after resetting wifi).
6. Turning off items controlling wireless network in wireless connection properties.
7. Turning off firewall.
Waiting for a savior.
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I'm having the exact same prob on my ZTE Grand x V 970
It started when i had kitkat and i couldnt even "fix it" restarting the wifi, i had to reset the phone in order to have my wifi work for like 2-5 mins and then stops recieving data, tried to reconnect and stays on turning on wifi.. Now i changed to the stock Rom and the problem is still there but at least now i can "fix it" restarting the wifi connection until certain point.
Issue sharing internet with Connectify from PC
Go to:
Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center
On the left column, click on CHANGE ADAPTER SETTINGS.
You should be in: Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections by now.
Then click on: Microsoft Virtual Miniport Adapter and click on Properties, then click on the 'Configure' button in the 'Networking' tab. From this window, go to the 'Power Management' tab and uncheck 'Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power'.
This works for me. Try this out
If this doesn't work further, you can try out mHotspot for the same purpose.
I've had the same issue, with the wifi saying it's connected even though it isn't.
This thread is 4 years old and this issue still hasn't been fixed. What a shame.
Same issue here on OnePlus 3 even after factory reset.
I have this same problem after the security patch Mid March to Jan 1, 2019. The WIFI doesn't show in the top status bar, but toggling wifi off/on fixes it till the next overnight. I did make one change to my wireless about that same time and that was moving the min connect speed from 6Mbps to 12Mbps to help with bandwidth issues being cause by devices using low speeds and having several SSID broadcast. My S7 and Tab A both work fine - so I think it was something in the security patch.