I've been triying to figure this out for awhile but here's the basics of what's going on:
I have a Japanese HTC Touch Pro, (and yes EVERYTHING is in Japanese, but this doesn't really bother me.) We don't have MMS over here, so we use a constant 3G connection and mopera U to push email to the phone.
So, when i'm in my Comm Manager I have a Data connection on as well as the phone connection.
If I try to turn on my WiFi it will turn off after 3 seconds (just enables it and disables it)
If I try to use my bluetooth connection, same thing (enables BT, then turns it off again)
If I connect my phone to my PC via USB it will try to connect at first, but will suddenly disconnect after a few seconds.
Well, I figgured out that Active Sync won't allow the connection while the phone portion is turned on. Easy enough, I turn my phone into flight mode and it connects just fine and syncs. While this is a tad retarded, I will accept it.
However, In order to get bluetooth to work, i need to disable the 3G connection. Now.. here's what I don't like:
I *HAVE* to have my data connection for email/internet or anything. But, the phone will only seem to allow either the Data connection through the 3G OR bluetooth/wifi, not both.
Now, if I have BT enabled first, then try to establish the data connection I get an error telling me it cannot connect to the 3G network, same effect though, it will try.. just won't allow it.
What really makes me mad is i'm not wanting to have it networked to anything, I just wanna pair it with a headset so I can listen to the mp3 player while on the train and send out emails from my phone.
I tried calling HTC (good help that was) about it, and they suggested hard reseting the phone, soft reset, ect ect.. There's not really a problem, i'm sure there's just a setting somewhere to allow the multiple connections at one.
Does anyone know of any tricks or ANYTHING I can do so I can use my phone the way it was intended?
Did you ever find an answer to this? I am having a similar problem with my Fuze. When bluetooth is enabled, eventually the phone begins to refuse to open a data connection. :-(
No, i never found an answer. I'm not tech savvy enough to find it out.
But its REALLY annoying. I just want to use my USB headset, not connect bluetooth to any network or route messages that way.
Not sure if this is the fix to your problem, but this helped me when Wifi kept turning off, its a setting in WinMoDevCenter, it stops all data connections when connected to sync
in WinMoDevCentre go to Mobile Device settings -> Connection Settings -> Allow Data connections (last check box)
after that i was able to use wifi while plugged in just fine
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Hi,
Could anyone tell me what's the rationale behind this:
When the device connects to the internet via 3G in order to receive mail or whatever, it will just stay connected until you bother to manually disconnect it. But when using wifi, which unlike 3G doesn't cost by the byte, it will disconnect as soon as the screen goes off?
Why on earth is that? Instead of running the hell away from cellular internet as soon as possible it does so with the free wifi? Is there any way to change this behavior? Or am I the only one who's bothered by this?
Besides that, more often than not, I'm having problems connecting to wifi... sometimes it would attempt to connect to a network and then give up and say it's unavailable (even though the signal is excellent and I'm right by the AP). other times, it appears connected but there's no internet... anyone else has these problems? Is my device defective?
Sorry if I'm ranting...
Thanks!
I think the behaviour is to save energy. When the screen goes off, the device "thinks" you don't use it anymore. Wifi drains your battery very fast, so the phone tries to reduce it.
For 3G it's the point, that there isn't much data transfer in order to stay connected. Maybe a few kb for the whole day (I don't know if there is any data transfer anyway, but when it's verly little). That's much cheaper than to pay for the full block (for example 100kb) everytime you disconnect. So staying connected saves money in most cases. That's why.
Connection problems: Do you use any encryption? Maybe that's the problem. So far I use wifi only for data transfers between my Macbook and the device. But I don't have any problems.
If you search hard enough you can find apps that might jus tkeep it on.
One such app is KaiserTweak which will keep that wifi on when screen goes off. problem with kaisertweak is that i have heard it can hard reset some peoples devvices, depending on what options you select.
i might give it a whirl because i hate it when my connection is lost, i end up using my data connection when i dont need to as it tries to take over when device wakes up!
edit: seems ok so far no hardreset yet!
Thanks, will try that.
I flashed a 6.1 rom and it seems to have made an improvement. Now it would connect fine to my home router every time and not just occasionally (it uses the most basic wep encryption). Still no luck at work though... just as before it appears connected but I can't reach anything inside or outside the lan. The encryption there is the more secure wpa-psk and there's no mac filtering.
Anyone successfully connected to a wpa wlan?
-Does anyone know how to priotize w-lan for internet connections?
It seem that my phone always uses the mobile connections (GSM, 3G etc).
In menu for connections where internet connections can be created, I can't find anyting about w-lan.
This is something I've been meaning to ask about while I wait for the Fuze. By way of background, I have a Cingular 8525 with the original (WM5) ROM, and it drives me nuts using it at home. I only get EDGE inside my house, but the stupid phone persists in making an EDGE data connection instead of using the nice, fast Wifi connection that I just enabled. I use NoData to make sure it doesn't connect via EDGE or 3G, and then half the time it says it says that it can't connect -- even though the icon says that it is connected!! The only way I can reliably connect via Wifi is to go briefly into and out of flight mode, then turn on Wifi before connecting.
I'm really, really hoping that the situation is better with the Touch Pro/Fuze. Can anyone reassure me on that?
it should be accessing wifi first by default i believe...unless other connection is already connected
Hello!
Start first the WiFi Connection and then the Internet Explorer or Opera.
pjo12345
There's this stupid thing with wlan connections in WM - if connection type is set to 'Work', you can browse through files on other computers in (W)LAN at home, but any Internet connection wll be realised through GRPS/3G. To make it connect to the Internet using WiFi, you need to switch wifi type back to 'Internet'.
Maybe that's the thing?
Is there a way how to setup that the WiFi is connected to both (work AND internet)? I never saw WiFi connected only to work network... I assume there is no way but why not to ask ;-)
I know that many others have problem with that, but I didn't find any solution yet...
Because when I set it as work, my Exchange sync is working but no Internet, and when I switch to Internet, opera and QuickpGPS is working, but no Exchange sync (it is trying to open VPN connection because I need to go though inside address to the server because certificates and of course it cannot get it). Or I need somehow set that no VPN will be dealed on this WiFi network...
I need something like BOTH or Auto option.
It seems to be switching from Wlan to G / 3G / H when the signal is not that great. Mostly with the weather tab and Opera. Quick GPS works fine. The way I make sure it is on the internet through wlan is to shutdown the telephone and keep the wlan on with comm manager. The disadvantage is that anyone calling will be heading to your voicemail. Another option is to use the "Nodata" program, en disable to internet connections.
On Touch Pro, I usually just go to COMM MANAGER and switch on wifi and switch off data connection. It is only a couple of quick steps and saves battery, since you don't need both on, if you only want to use wifi.
I am sure there must be a more seamless solution, but I like easy fixes.
wmm said:
I'm really, really hoping that the situation is better with the Touch Pro/Fuze. Can anyone reassure me on that?
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No it is not better. Turning on WiFi is not enough. It will continue to use the cellular data connection until you manually turn it off. This wouldn't be so bad, but in my experience I've had to push the button to turn off the cellular connection multiple times before it would actually do so. What would be really nice is if WM could seamlessly switch from the cellular network to WiFi, with zero user interaction, just like the iPhone does.
I got an other problem with wifi. When I establish a wifi-connection and pull my mail the ppc still connect with a data-canection and didn't use the wifi. My kaiser used the wifi-connection for that.
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No it is not better. Turning on WiFi is not enough. It will continue to use the cellular data connection until you manually turn it off. This wouldn't be so bad, but in my experience I've had to push the button to turn off the cellular connection multiple times before it would actually do so. What would be really nice is if WM could seamlessly switch from the cellular network to WiFi, with zero user interaction, just like the iPhone does.
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I wrote the original post before I had a chance to try it for myself. I've had a Fuze for three weeks now, and it works fine for me. I turn on wifi and the Fuze uses wifi. I turn it off and it goes back to normal wireless. (I did do the registry edits to turn on the HSDPA stuff in the connections tab and enabled the modified connection icons in the menu bar. I don't know if that had any effect on this issue or not, but it does what I would expect now.)
hey, I have a problem with my HTC TP.
it always prefers the HSDPA link when connecting with a web based application souch as opera or MSN.
Even if I have it connected to a Wi-Fi it still boots up the HSDPA and goes online using that link.
I'm new to WM, so this is a bit vague, but I had the same problem, but I fixed it at some point last week...
There is a setting, somwhere (I told you it was a bit vague!), that tells programs to use WiFi as the default connection. I can't for the life of me remember where, and I've flashed roms since, but I'm sure it was a windows setting in "settings > Connections".
Sorry I couldn't be any more help, but at least you know there is a fix, somwhere...!
Hehe, thanks, I've tried looking for this feature for hours, becouse I can't for the love of whoever understand why there wouldn't be an option for it
there isn't one because it shouldn't need it. As long as your Wi-Fi is set to Internet, and Not work, it should always use that as long as it is connected.
Just having Wi-Fi turned on doesn't cut it.
There are certain applications that will always use the cellular network, like pushmail, but in general, all apps will use whichever internet connection is available. and if Wi-Fi isn;t connected, it will automatically connect to GPRS/3G.
Wellt hats the problem, I connected it t my home Wi-Fi set it as internet connection and the problem remains. I have redone the settings several times and it still prefers the HSDPA connection.
if I turn of all other alternatives to connect to the web, like removing APN settings for GPRS and HSDPA it uses the Wi-Fi, but as long as there is another Access link to the net the Wi-Fi isn't used
I have the same problem with Hotmail syncing (not defaulting to Wi-Fi), but not with Opera. I do have to change the connection settings though first from the T-Mobile Internet (and their magic transparent proxy) before Opera can work over Wi-Fi, but I thought the connection settings were just for HSDPA/GPRS connections. I'm finding this increasingly frustrating that I need to reconfigure everything depending where I am.
BTW, to get Hotmail to use Wi-Fi I have to go to the Comm Manager and turn off "Phone", turning off "Data Connection" doesn't work, because it craftily turns it back on, seconds later!
Even though WiFi is up and running, my phone keeps getting connected via GPRS automatically. Although most programs use the WiFi connection, sometimes they switch over to GPRS. Also, when I reboot the phone, WiFi gets deactivated and GPRS kicks in automatically. Of course, this is a bad thing since my carrier allows only 1MB of downstream on GPRS.
The other problem is that WiFi keeps getting disconnected after a period of inactivity. Now I don't mind this happening as it saves battery, but I don't want this to happen when I'm at a place having access to a power source. Strictly speaking, I could live with the WiFi getting disconnected, but the irritating thing is that sometimes it just doesn't reconnect - instead, a baloon pops up informing me of all other wireless networks available - my network isn't listed! Then after a few more minutes, it automagically connects to my network. Sometimes, to get the wifi to connect, all I have to do is click on the "G" icon (I'm about to open the wireless manager) and the WiFi starts to connect! Just w.t.h is going on here? :S
Now the common "solution" for the GPRS problem that's floating around the net is to use a program that disables the GPRS connection, like Modaco NoData or such, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution (regtweak?) by which:
1) GPRS is never connected and if connected, never used by any program IF there's an active WiFi connection
2) When the phone (re)boots, WiFi should be activated and if any "known" networks are found, should connect to it automatically, else it should be deactivated
3) Perhaps WiFi/GPRS can be enabled/disabled based on the cellid/GPS and/or time schedules? Now I know of programs that can do this, but I'm looking for something extremly light, preferably which doesn't have a GUI and/or runs as a service and can be configured by xml/ini/reg (or maybe have a seperate GUI for settings)
Any ideas people?
Thanks for your time.
Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well. Thx.
Yeah, I changed phones. Didn't face this issue on a Diamond and a Hermes.
got the same problem with my tg01 keeps dropping wifi and keeps connecting to gprs when wifi is on
Hi, Guys.
I'm pulling my hair out trying to stop my WM6.1 blackstone (Touch HD) from attempting to connect to the data connection when I do something network related on the phone. Because It's already connected to wifi.
I'm connected to wifi, and can browse the web, use messenger etc.. But if I attempt something like entering a network path like \\NETDISK\share into the file explorer, it says "Cannot connect etc..." and it's trying to connect via the HSDPA connection, which can't access my local network anyway. It needs to use the wifi...
Is there any way to stop it trying to connect? In the connection settings, I've deleted all modem connections, leaving just the wifi connectivity. If I try to add wifi as a modem, the option is not there...
I'm really lost with this. Please offer any advice you can. I'm close to twisting it in half..
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Hi, Guys.
I'm pulling my hair out trying to stop my WM6.1 blackstone (Touch HD) from attempting to connect to the data connection when I do something network related on the phone. Because It's already connected to wifi.
I'm connected to wifi, and can browse the web, use messenger etc.. But if I attempt something like entering a network path like \\NETDISK\share into the file explorer, it says "Cannot connect etc..." and it's trying to connect via the HSDPA connection, which can't access my local network anyway. It needs to use the wifi...
Is there any way to stop it trying to connect? In the connection settings, I've deleted all modem connections, leaving just the wifi connectivity. If I try to add wifi as a modem, the option is not there...
I'm really lost with this. Please offer any advice you can. I'm close to twisting it in half..
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Hi,
What about putting that networkpath in the adressbar of your browser ?
Dirk
I'm getting so tired of answering this question.......it's very easy
I say you should try and figure it out alone...because that's how I did it!
1- you need a modem Wifi
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2- now with a windows vista
demarrer ->panneau de configuration -> centre reseau
3-choose
configurer une connexion un reseau
4- follower Stages in the pictures
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5- you need to attach the cable internet to your Pc For the distribution on the Internet
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7- now you can work with the wifi of you POcket PC
Gooodman, thanks for the reply, while i'm sure many will find this thread useful now, It's of no help to me.
I do have connectivity via WiFi, It's not a normal networking issue, my network is setup perfectly.
The issue is that the Touch HD is always trying to connect via other means even when wifi is available and connected.
For instance, I'll open messenger, or click download on the aGPS data, and the phone attempts to connect to the internet via my phone service provider, when wifi, is connected and ready.
Some apps connect via wifi fine, it seems to be the WM software itself attempting the connection rather than any of my applications.
I don't think it's as straight forward as the first replyer seems to think.
If he'd be so kind as to post this incredibly simple resolution, i'd be very greateful.
I also struggle with this, but this seems to affect it:
a. Start\settings\connections tab
b. Connections
c. Advanced tab
d. Select Networks button
e. Play around with the drop down menu's, especially the lower one.
I cannot be more precise as I do not completely understand myself, but this has helped me in the past.