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Firstly for those thinking, "just get DarchDroid! It's already AOSP," I would first like to explore this option. I like Sense UI, just hate the lag associated with certain Sense apps and would at least like to try the AOSP versions before completely switching to a new ROM.
I did some searching, but couldn't find any sure apk's that will work on a CDMA Hero. The closest I found was some working for the EVO 4G (here), but I don't want to risk it not working on the Hero.
Is it possible for someone to pull some apk's from DarchDroid ROM and have them work on Sense-based ROMs?
Suppose there are working apk's, will they replace or coexist with the HTC apps?
Thanks in advance, and I apologize if this was already done.
Edit: found some apk's!
Edit 2: apparently I suck at searching; there was another thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667715#7 but at least my thread has the DeskClock.apk
I feel your pain, or at least I did. I liked sense but hated all the lag such as the lag when scrolling threw contacts and SMS. All those little small areas where it would lag drove me crazy. I tried installing the apks from darchdroid but it didn't work so I searched it up. Got the same results as you. I had no choice but to go with darchdroid but I am more than satisfied now. Throw launcherpro on it and you wont regret it. AOSP is like a simplified less flashy version and I love it. I hope some one has a real answer for you though because I'm curious myself. Good luck.
Oh. If you do end up trying darchdroid, try out gomorrah's blackmod theme for it. It's sick.
Well, I managed to find the AOSP messaging app when I wasn't even looking for it! Go figure. It was in a thread talking about keyboard lag. Some claim that for texting, using AOSP messaging app has much less keyboard lag than the HTC messaging app. For those curious, it's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6309233&postcount=6
Oh and it looks like it replaces the HTC messaging app; they cannot coexist.
Edit: It also occurred to me that flipz included the AOSP alarm as part of his AOSP lock screen fix!
Much less lag. The messaging app is the only one that worked when I tried replacing them though. The phone and contacts apps were giving problems. I didn't know what to do so I just went with darchdroid. If you like sense, maybe there is a way to add it to an AOSP ROM. Maybe you can just try installing the HTC Sense launcher apk on darch's ROM.
Soo.. I know the title isn't very specific.. but I would like to throw a question in here and get some responses..
So.. WHAT excatly is MIUI compared to other ROMs?
To me, MIUI is "just" plain (AOSP?) Android with every single "GO"-App available. GO Launcher, GO SMS.. and so on.
So.. what does MIUI exactly have, that e.g. CM with every app changed to some GO-App doesn't have?
MIUI is skinned to kinda "copy" Iphone-style..sure.. but is that really all?
Benchmarks show there are some differences..
So I wonder what's left of MIUI if you install a MIUI based ROM and change any GO-App to another one?
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'Cause most ppl say they love MIUI for how it looks like. But honestly.. I could also use stock Android with e.g. Motoblur and change the launcher and so on.. so why going through the hassle to root and install a completely new ROM?
Ty everyone
And yes, I used the search, but didn't find anything relevant.. maybe because "MIUI" & "GO" are a liiiiittle bit vague
We need to know the history. MIUI just want to be like IOS, but in the Android enviroment. AOSP is just a plain OS, CM was loaded witb tons of tweaks but the UI not that eyecandy. HTC? Good but too dark to be like IOS and bloated. So MIUI with the UI mimic IOS with slight modification came. For me it is another CM with the stress more on UI.
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Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
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Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
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A renaissance artist perhaps? MIUI is developed by a Chinese team and someone came across it and started translating it.
There's plenty of info and screenshots etc. over at http://www.miui-dev.com which is the site run by the translating team.
Essentially it does largely look to be making Android more iOS-like. It's based on FroYo AOSP (Gingerbread soon) but with a _lot_ of alterations. It shares a little bit of code with CM as far as the addins.
In my opinion MIUI is the first Android Distro because it proposes a completely different way of Android where other ROMs are just forks.
Miui is the simple face of ios with the power of android.
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MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..
MIUI is so much better then stock android:
here's a list of apps that avalible only on miui:
Monitor (let you block apps and see how much data you have used)
Theme manager (no more zip's, really easy to theme stuff)
Better mms app
file mamanger
Miui gallery and camera
miui music
special lockscreen - much better the stock
folders - better the stock
quick settings on the notification bar
better phone app
easier to use setting's
miui wheater (avalible for all now)
some widgets like conatcs and etc...
if you chineese you can use the update app which auto update your phone to the latest version.
battery monitor
and much more that I might forgot
I'll go ahead and toss my two cents in...
Simple version-- I rooted my phone about 6 weeks ago, I flashed several roms in the first two days. (Cyanogen, Mikfroyo, Myns) Then I flashed MIUI. That was the last time I flashed a rom...
(If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the L O N G version of why MIUI is the best in my opinion)
Not a single one of the "GO" apps I've heard of including the two your mentioned are a part of MIUI. The post above me outlines a lot of the features but there is also so much more. I just discovered a feature the other day I never realized was there.
Try it, if you don't like it, NANDROID!! Make sure to grab yourself a few themes off of the MIUI forum. Again, I've installed one theme since I flashed MIUI ignoring the other 100 simply because what I have, Elite HD by bustadroid, is the best damn theme (period)
I just started to use Miui Camera for my Milestone today. Awesome fast!
Maybe can someone compile a list of Miui's apps and post links here?
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MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..
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MIUI isn't open source?? Why the heck did they do that? :-/
I have an evo 4g, and i just flashed MIUI ROM 1.4.8 which is the newest one, i think, and was wondering if anyone out there can fill me in on the wireless tethering as well as the qik app doesn't seem to have video to video chat available? The camera doesn't seem to have all the control options as seen on a video before flashing the ROM, and i can't seem to get APP or a weather clock widget?
Can someone please help me that is familiar witht his, i don't know if i did something wrong, or what? I am about to go back to my original stock!
If you want Sense, I'd flash a Sense Rom. I'm personally running MIUI 1.4.1 on my Evo right now & I like it a lot, but I don't like Sense very much. If you didn't wipe everything, you're going to have problems. If there are features you know are in that version, but you can't find them, try asking on the MIUI forums. If you want a clock/weather widget, MIUI Weather is pretty good. You can get it in the Android Apps forum or over at MIUI-Dev (you have an app for their forums, it came with the rom).
Also know that there are two camera apps - the MIUI camera app, and the AOSP camera app. I'm not sure if the video recording is the same in both apps or if it's different.
Good luck figuring it out. But as I said, if you really like Sense then I'd stick with a Sense ROM. If you have any other questions about MIUI/Evo stuff, you can send me a pm. I'm always happy to help :]
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::NOTE ON ALL LOCKSCREEN INCLUDED VERSIONS::
The lockscreen-included versions of the MikG roms 2.57 and beyond have had several apk's left intact to maintain the ability to change the lockscreen shortcuts and style. After you have customized the Lockscreen to your liking you may use a root explorer type app and remove those apk's. Or you can use titanium backup and freeze them so that in the future if you wish to change the lockscreen again you can un-freeze them. Either way you choose to do it, here are the two apk's.
Rosie.apk/odex (will be called "sense" in titanium Backup)
MyHTC.apk/odex
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MynWarm Themes customized for RLS1 Senseless roms. On DL Page below 10/25/2011 3:25cst
MikG 2.58 Lockscreen included cst - 10/20/2011 12:15PM cst
MigK 2.58 Nolock - 10/20/2011 12:15PM cst
Synergy RLS1 Lockscreen included - 10/15/2011 2:12am cst
Synergy RLS1 NoLock - 10/15/2011 2:13am cst
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These are all senseless roms, Will have versions with and without the Lockscreens eventually. They maintain all the sense programs except for rosie and it's widgets and customization utilities. In terms of launchers, rosie is very large. Just for ease of explaination purposes, here is a comparison *of course ram usage is more important than this, but you will get the point and I can't quote amounts of free ram because of different AMM settings and not having an evo myself anyways*
Synergy RLS1 Original download Size::: 297MB
Synergy RLS1 Senseless ::: 254MB
Synergy RLS1 Senseless NO HTC Lockscreen::: 208MB
So you get to drop 43MB by getting rid of rosie and it's widgets and another 46MB by getting rid of the Lockscreen and all the leftover stuff that can then be removed by having the lockscreen and rosie gone. And remember these include GoLauncher already LOL. You get the point.
It turns out making everything perform smoother and faster, and you get to use whatever launcher you prefer without rosie and garbage running in the background.
HTC versions of SMS, Email, Contacts, Dialer, etc are left there because they really work well together.
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Alright lets see what you got. Looking forward to trying it out. BTW, thanks for providing the mirrors earlier.
Great idea I was gonna do this myself but haven't had time...senseless Rom seem to save battery life on gingerbread sense roms. By the way is there a way u can just include the 3.0 message apk also .
Thanks
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If you are wanting a Senseless Rom why not just use an Asop or CM Rom? You can still add Go launcher or LPP or ADW launchers and Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets. As of now with ASOP with gingerbread 2.3.4 you don't have all the camera or gps issues you have with Sense 3.0. And most sense ports now are using a mix of the older sense's (1.0-2.0 and 2.1).
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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If you are wanting a Senseless Rom why not just use an Asop or CM Rom? You can still add Go launcher or LPP or ADW launchers and Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets. As of now with ASOP with gingerbread 2.3.4 you don't have all the camera or gps issues you have with Sense 3.0. And most sense ports now are using a mix of the older sense's (1.0-2.0 and 2.1).
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I also run a "rosieless" sense rom. I don't use the Rosie launcher or the widgets. I DO enjoy all of the Sense applications a lot better than aosp apps. Sense also has a much tighter integration with its different apps, Facebook, etc. The dialer looks up names as you dial, aosp does not do that. The messaging and mail apps are superior than aosp imho. All of the notifications on the lock screen I enjoy more. I can go on and on. Just because you don't use the Rosie launcher doesn't mean its aosp, far from it.
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Yes this I know. I have been around long enough with these devices to know that not running the rosie launcher does not make it ASOP. I have run just about every os that is out there. Including using my old TP2 in dual boot mode when they first started doing that.
I have run my Evo with no sense last year, so this is no new concept to most of us. Calkulin made an app last year to remove the sense apps in one shot if you did not want to use all the bloat.
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I also run a "rosieless" sense rom. I don't use the Rosie launcher or the widgets. I DO enjoy all of the Sense applications a lot better than aosp apps. Sense also has a much tighter integration with its different apps, Facebook, etc. The dialer looks up names as you dial, aosp does not do that. The messaging and mail apps are superior than aosp imho. All of the notifications on the lock screen I enjoy more. I can go on and on. Just because you don't use the Rosie launcher doesn't mean its aosp, far from it.
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CM mods are great. I prefer it as my choice for AOSP roms, but I would still prefer a senseless rom. The only things I think CM mods have as an edge to sensless roms are the option to unlock your phone without pressing the "ok" button, and better battery life.
Looking forward to this rom. If you manage to keep it sensless but keep the 3.0 lockscreen, that would be pretty impressive!
ASOP roms have gps issues, I did not find a permanent solution for it in any forum.
If you want a 100% working perfect rom you can try Ginger-AleV2 or MikG 0.51, both are Android 2.3.3 Sense 2.1 with latest 2.3.4 gtalk video. I flashed Ginger-AleV2, then got GoLauncherEx from Market (free).
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Permanent GPS solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14534313&postcount=2478
selders59 said:
If you are wanting a Senseless Rom why not just use an Asop or CM Rom? You can still add Go launcher or LPP or ADW launchers and Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets. As of now with ASOP with gingerbread 2.3.4 you don't have all the camera or gps issues you have with Sense 3.0. And most sense ports now are using a mix of the older sense's (1.0-2.0 and 2.1).
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Camera works better on this rom than on AOSP roms, plus you get 720p recording back. And it runs smooth enough to actually use 720p recording.
There is a noticeable screen smoothness to htc stock kernels that I can't get with any aosp rom. If you use them side by side, even with evodeck's or cyanogen's latest you can see that the HTC builds just look smoother.
and you can really notice this in games. I play a lot of games, not the really high end hard for our phones to play type of games (well a few of them) but even in ****in Chuzzle you notice a huge difference LOL.
Normally with All the Sense **** eating up all the resources the games on HTC builds don't run very well, but when you slim down to an easier to run launcher and everything they run so damn purdy.
GPS is perfect
##codes work
tight program integration like mentioned with stock dialer, facebook, twitter, etc.
Rosieless sense-based I think is the perfect way to go. You get all the performance of AOSP without any of the downsides. Working on fixing everything and getting this up, I fell asleep last night.
The HTC Facebook I accidentally took out and the MMS are going to be back in this one
HTC Facebook rocks. No ****ty facebook program, just contact sync WOOT. haha. I can't stand the facebook program. Full desktop version of the website in Dolphin Browser 5.0b2 HD is the way to go.
So with the next"release" or whatever, will you have the text messaging apk back?
Excited to try this out!
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Alright lets see what you got. Looking forward to trying it out. BTW, thanks for providing the mirrors earlier.
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hey someone remembered me LOL Sweeeet.
I want all of XDA to use that ftp as a mirror if they want to. But I don't want to create a post and get flamed by people like:
Oh you think you are cool cuz you pay for a ****ty little server, we don't want to use your mirror you weirdo.
People get so harsh on here sometimes I could see something weird like that happening lol.
It says sense 3.0 lock screen but where can I update it? The sense 3.0 has the short cuts and different typed, I can't go into personalize and change any of that..
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Skydeaner..quick question...if I want to give this a go and I am using Vaelek's latest (been for Month's now) with a2sd already set up...how would I go about flashing this ROM..I used to flash like crazy till Val's ROM and now I do not know what to do (as far as wiping the phone--do I just wipe data, cache and dalvik, or do I have to also wipe ext's) since I am using a2sd..
p.s. I am using AmonRa 2.3...thanks
Yeah, im pretty sure wipe sd-ext is required,but don't take my word for it.
@skydeaner, yeah thanks for the hosting. Thanks for this senseless rom. Probably gonna check it out, just first gonna find screens of what go launcher is like. I usually use adw and LP. Havebt seen go.
At selders59, senseless is a million miles from aosp and cannot be compared.
@ all. Cheesynuts just dropped link for official evo3d from 911htc. Woohoo
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lockscreen numbers are misaligned.
Hmmmmm...Interesting Oh and for the record..(i have to put this out there), it's AOSP (Android Open Source Project)
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Hmmmmm...Interesting Oh and for the record..(i have to put this out there), it's AOSP (Android Open Source Project)
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Actually, im pretty sure it's 'android open sores project'
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does anybody mind posting some Screen shots? Wouldn't mind taking a peak inside before wiping my phone
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Working on fixing everything and getting this up, I fell asleep last night.
The HTC Facebook I accidentally took out and the MMS are going to be back in this one
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Curious to try this but would like to when it's been updated with the above. Looks promising, thanks for doing this! XDA rocks......
Cool - I like this, feels like a hybrid. For those who have tried AOSP roms, this looks like AOSP with better features from sense, like the weather widget, notification icons, contacts & phone dialer app, and of course the sense 3.0 lockscreen. I think the contacts and dialer apps in AOSP needs a lot of improvement, just my opinion. Thanks Skydeaner.
Hey everyone,
I love my Infuse but the only thing is I absolutely HATE TouchWiz. I love HTC's Sense but unfortunately AFAIK there isn't a way of getting that on here.
Anyways back to my main point, what is the easiest way to get rid of TouchWiz and Samsung's Dialer, E-Mail Client and SMS Client? I much prefer the stock Android version of everything so if someone could please point me in the right direction that would be great.
My phone IS rooted BTW incase that makes things easier
Thanks!
CM 7 is in the process of being ported to the infuse, check the development section - still doesn't have all bugs worked out yet, but that's your only alternative to TouchWiz
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Until CM7 is available you could change the launcher and use market apps to do SMS, Email, etc...
Just delete/move or freeze the APKs using a root-enabled file explorer or Titanium Backup. Then you can install some alternative apps, lockscreens, and launchers.
Alternatively, you might want to check out some of the ROMs in the dev section. You can easily get a close-to-AOSP feel with Infused v2 and the lockscreen addon.
Yeah I'm always watching the CM7 thread to see what's new, etc.
Am I able to get the AOSP APK's for the dialer, sms and e-mail from somewhere? I would change my launcher but without the AOSP APK's I don't see the point
I am currently on Infused V2 with the lockscreen addon, just want to get rid of the Samsung feel ;-)
Thanks for everyone's help!
the dialer and contacts would be difficult to permanantly change. way back designgears tried an aosp look rom for the captivate and he wasn't able to change the dialer. you can get go contacts/dialer which is a single app much like aosp with added features and is themeable.
you can change the sms to aosp I believe but I'm not sure why you'd want to, it is really limited. there are many market apps you can use. go sms pro and handcent are very popular.
and there are many launcher in the market for you to choose. the gingerbread one from Eugene373 is same as gtg puts in his roms I believe.
I guess I will just wait until CM7 is all ready
I like simplicity, I think the Samsung SMS, E-mail and dialer are way too bloated. I look at it this way, if the main used functions of my phone are simple and basic then I won't have too many problems with the phone with daily use.
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I guess I will just wait until CM7 is all ready
I like simplicity, I think the Samsung SMS, E-mail and dialer are way too bloated. I look at it this way, if the main used functions of my phone are simple and basic then I won't have too many problems with the phone with daily use.
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well it sounds like you might like go dialer/contacts then, it has some additional features but isn't very complicated at all. only issue is that every time it gets upgraded the defaults get cleared and you need to set them back to go contacts for like 4-5 different scenarios. it is a good app but the defaults system on android can get annoying. and I do believe aosp sms will work on this phone, just haven't seen it tried. it was done many times on the sgs phones because earlier versions of tw sms had weird problems with the time stamps, especially on custom roms, that and the theme was pretty gross.
Well I know SMS is possible for sure because I was using Refuse 1.7 before I upgraded to Infuse and it has the AOSP SMS which was nice
Hopefully CM7 gets finished up sooner than later
As mentioned, you have many options in the market...
popular launcher apps
go launcher
zeam launcher (i use on nook)
launcher pro (i use on infuse)
adw launcher (have on my son's phone)
android 2.3 launcher
SPB Shell 3D (looks like an amazing launcher)
and more
sms
chomp
go
handcent (i use)
and more
Dialers
I rarely make calls so I have not really looked into changing the dialer.