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I have a Fuze and I'm in Japan on vacation and have not been able to get a GPS fix anywhere.... I have used GPStest and Garmin XT mobile and have not been able to get a fix. Is it an issue with my fuze? I have no problems in North America. Anyone able to get a GPS fix in Japan with their phones? If so, which program are you using?
artofwar said:
I have a Fuze and I'm in Japan on vacation and have not been able to get a GPS fix anywhere.... I have used GPStest and Garmin XT mobile and have not been able to get a fix. Is it an issue with my fuze? I have no problems in North America. Anyone able to get a GPS fix in Japan with their phones? If so, which program are you using?
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Are you getting any satellite signals at all? It may take a little while for your GPS receiver to recalibrate itself to the new hemisphere... and download the almanac of satellites available.
Sure, I have an AT&T fuze and use my GPS in Japan. It does take a bit to get a sattelite lock, quicker if you use quick gps to update your sattelite data before initiation of the chip, but it does work, got a lock on the train from Tokyo to Kyoto and in and around Shizuoka and Osaka.
ms0529 said:
Sure, I have an AT&T fuze and use my GPS in Japan. It does take a bit to get a sattelite lock, quicker if you use quick gps to update your sattelite data before initiation of the chip, but it does work, got a lock on the train from Tokyo to Kyoto and in and around Shizuoka and Osaka.
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Which radio version are you using? Do you have a cooked rom?
Besides using quickGPS, which other gps progs do you use to get a lock? How long does it take you to lock on usually?
drtolson said:
Are you getting any satellite signals at all? It may take a little while for your GPS receiver to recalibrate itself to the new hemisphere... and download the almanac of satellites available.
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Yes, I usually see anywhere from 2-4 satellites depending on where I am but have not been able to get a lock on them.
i was just in okinawa and i got a lock. take your time
I have the standard AT&T Rom and Radio, works fine, but does take a while to get a lock, once done, however, it usually connects in a minute or two. I used Google maps, although it was all in Japanese, worked out for me. No other special programs or fix, other than be patient for the first connect.
I've searched and searched most of the Android forums along with the Eris forums as well but I can't find anyone who has gotten this to work. The best I could find was someone in Puerto Rico with a Eris that even with a 1x connection wasn't able to get a GPS sync.
Has anyone traveled to Europe with a CDMA Hero and been able to get a GPS lock?
Were you able to use co-pilot or something similar with offline maps to be able to navigate around?
I tested putting the phone in airplane mode and turning on GPS and using GPS Logger to see if I get a sync and I do here in the US. In the settings I only had "Use GPS satellites" checked and not "use wireless networks". This leads me to believe it should work but I have to wonder if the last sync was cached which allowed it to work in testing.
So if anyone has and real life experience with this please let me know, otherwise I may have to drag out the old Mogul with a BT GPS dongle.
Good question! I am going to Japan for 2 weeks and was wondering the same thing.
It should work I think, cause GPS is supposed to locate you anywhere. Its just the maps but google maps has the whole world.
zeezey said:
It should work I think, cause GPS is supposed to locate you anywhere. Its just the maps but google maps has the whole world.
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Only thing is, Maps requires a data connection to display the maps!
You'd probably have to get a europe navigation program for android (if one exists?)
lordofokra said:
Only thing is, Maps requires a data connection to display the maps!
You'd probably have to get a europe navigation program for android (if one exists?)
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Yeah, it's called CoPilet Live Navigation Europe, but its f***ing expensive lol
like $75 USD
Better pleasure me at the same time as navigating for that price
lordofokra said:
Only thing is, Maps requires a data connection to display the maps!
You'd probably have to get a europe navigation program for android (if one exists?)
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There is a hacked GMaps that works outside the USA...
I'm starting to think no one has any real world experience with this. I have a feeling my upcoming travel I will end up being a guinea pig.
gu1dry said:
There is a hacked GMaps that works outside the USA...
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Wouldn't he still need data to use it? Europe doesn't use our CDMA and he wouldn't have signal.
I found a navigation app that doesn't need an interenet connection. It relies on OpenStreetMap so I am not sure how good that data is in Europe
http://www.andnav.org/
I also found this app which lets you download an area while you have an internet connection
http://bigplanetmaps.wordpress.com/
but it seems buggy.
There is also this one but it doesn't look like it has a navigation option
http://www.mapdroyd.com/
All the notable gps navigation apps that have mappacks cost $50 or more.
Another problem is that your phone uses the cell network as a "cheat" to get your initial location. So whenever you boot up a GPS nav app without cell towers it is going to take several minutes to get your location so just be aware it will take awhile to get your location. That fact is true for any GPS unit you start for the first time. This is why the newer units will ask for the city you are in so it can try to get a lock faster.
I was in Europe earlier this month and none of the pictures I took with the phone had any of the GPS data in it.
Hope your results are different.
ymsc said:
I was in Europe earlier this month and none of the pictures I took with the phone had any of the GPS data in it.
Hope your results are different.
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y doesn't someone ask someone from Europe?
regaw_leinad said:
y doesn't someone ask someone from Europe?
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They do not have the CDMA Hero in Europe
ymsc said:
They do not have the CDMA Hero in Europe
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lol wow I don't even remember asking that last night ?? what a dumb question haha
I think a good way to test if it will work is to do a complete wipe and as soon as the phone boots throw it in airplane mode. Then disable the network location by celltower. Disable Mobile network. Take it out of airplane mode and activate only the GPS(not the mobile network location... make sure that is off before you come out of airplane mode)
Then put one of those program on your phone (I am liking andnav) and see if it finds your location after several minutes.
You need to wipe it so your phone never gets your current location. This will be a similar situation to when you go overseas.
The big question here is does the Hero need that initial location from the towers or will it do like other GPS units and search until it find the location(which can take many minutes!)
I just tried that andnav2 and it properly won't work for you.
Even if you download the mappacks you will still need to cache and area you are visiting while you have a data connection. Then you can't plan routes there unless you have a data connection. You can however pre-load routes and then don't need a data connection but you have to pre-plan stuff.
I am sorry to say but I think your best bet is to get a dedicated unit. The paid apps for the android might do the job for you if you want to save on how many electronics you carry around but they are so expensive that I say by then just buy a separate unit.
If you have or want to buy a TomTom then I can tell you how to get maps for your areas you are visiting but you will need to PM me. Not only am I not allowed to post but that would be way off topic since it has nothing to do with the Hero. I took a TomTom One when I went to Germany a couple months ago and it worked like a charm.
Just bumping this in case anyone has any further insight or has tried this.
I still planning on trying it myself. I'll have the old mogul with a bluetooth gps dongle as a backup.
Actually here is a question. Has anyone gotten a bluetooth gps dongle to work with their phones. I know the last time I was in europe my mogul would not pick up a gps signal with the internal chip but as soon as I fired up the bluetooth everything was good.
watzone69 said:
Good question! I am going to Japan for 2 weeks and was wondering the same thing.
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japan uses cdma. you'll probably have a nice strong roaming signal over there
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japan uses cdma. you'll probably have a nice strong roaming signal over there
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Yep, I'm in Japan right now. As soon as I took my phone out of airplane mode I got a roaming notification for $1.99/minute. No thanks! I disabled mobile network and have just been using the camera and music functions.
I'm posting this from my father-in-law's computer. He lives in a small town outside of Tokyo and I haven't found a wifi hotspot yet. I'm going in to Tokyo tomorrow so I will try to find a free one somewhere and maybe download some maps.
Earlier today I tried getting a GPS lock w/google maps and it seems like it found my location (no map, of course) but now it says "your location is temporarily unavailable". Maybe the initial lock was cached data? I may try the wipe/airplane mode method that centron posted.
BTW, I have seen ads for WIMAX here. Hopefully next time I'm here I'll have the EVO.
Based on my experience traveling around Europe with my Sprint Mogul you will need to have a CDMA signal even if your phone has a dedicated GPS chip. Even TomTom wouldn't work without it. Granted this is a different phone running WM6, but I believe the result will be the same.
Please write us back when you test it out across the pond and let us know.
I'll try to remember in the am. I'm in the UK right now. I tried the other day, but was having issues getting a dhcp addresses from the wifi ....
This is really starting to piss me off.
I have the latest AT&T radio (see sig) with corresponding RIL (used gtg465's RIL flasher).
I used AngelDeath's North East fix (boot into recovery, install zip from SDCard), also installing GPS Status.
I tried the above with the stock AT&T radio.
I flashed both the radio and RIL twice in a row, for both scenarios.
I backed up my current ROM, and installed a fresh ROM (same one, Inspired Ace), and did all the above as well.
It's not working.
GPS locks in ~200-300 seconds, but is never accurate. It never goes under 40m accuracy, yet it's locked on to 6+ satellites.
The lock also changes frequently, literally 9 satellites one second, down to 4 the next, back up to 6, and everything in between... and this is in clear skies.
I have never used this exact phone with stock. I've used the demo phone at the AT&T store, but this exact phone, immediately I got it, I rooted it, so I don't know if GPS works or not...
Is this a hardware issue? Should I return my phone via warranty?
I exchanged mine because the GPS only worked when it wanted. My new phone has been great never less than 6 sats and 10-20 ft accuracy.
cableguychad said:
I exchanged mine because the GPS only worked when it wanted. My new phone has been great never less than 6 sats and 10-20 ft accuracy.
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I see. I don't know enough about how Inspire works, to deduce if this is a hardware or software issue, as it locks, but it can't calculate where I am (is that because of the hardware not giving the correct info to the software to calculate? or is that because the software just can't calculate? I have no idea).
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I see. I don't know enough about how Inspire works, to deduce if this is a hardware or software issue, as it locks, but it can't calculate where I am (is that because of the hardware not giving the correct info to the software to calculate? or is that because the software just can't calculate? I have no idea).
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I believe mine was hardware related as diff GPS scripts or Roms had no effect on it. Lucky for me I bought mine at Costco, they have a 90 day exchange.
cableguychad said:
I believe mine was hardware related as diff GPS scripts or Roms had no effect on it. Lucky for me I bought mine at Costco, they have a 90 day exchange.
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Well, this is a hardware defect, and should be covered by the 1-year warranty.
Anywho, did your previous one actually lock-on like mine, but never was accurate, or did yours never lock-on?
I'm going to try going to the roof of this building (61st floor) and try to lock a signal up there... if this doesn't work... I don't know.
I has terrible GPS fix. I contacted HTC and they agreed to repair it under warranty (HTC does not do exchanges). I paid $32 for shipping, they receive on a Tuesday and they are already shipping it out on Wednesday am. They said that all the problem was that I had not selected the USE GPS FOR LOCATION check mark. I told the technician that it was obvious that it would not be checked, as I had done a factory restore prior to sending it and the default setting is turned off, and of course, problem was still there.
After a lot of discussion they agreed to pay my second shipping, but I won't send it, they use the slowest shipping option from FedEx so you are easily looking at two weeks without phone.
So, good luck to you my dear sir.
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I has terrible GPS fix. I contacted HTC and they agreed to repair it under warranty (HTC does not do exchanges). I paid $32 for shipping, they receive on a Tuesday and they are already shipping it out on Wednesday am. They said that all the problem was that I had not selected the USE GPS FOR LOCATION check mark. I told the technician that it was obvious that it would not be checked, as I had done a factory restore prior to sending it and the default setting is turned off, and of course, problem was still there.
After a lot of discussion they agreed to pay my second shipping, but I won't send it, they use the slowest shipping option from FedEx so you are easily looking at two weeks without phone.
So, good luck to you my dear sir.
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I'm actually within the 30-days for AT&T, so going to replace it via AT&T if I do .
I just got my replacement Monday for this very issue. It's a "known" defect. Save your sanity and get it replaced.
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Tx Redneck said:
I just got my replacement Monday for this very issue. It's a "known" defect. Save your sanity and get it replaced.
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I see.
Thanks. Time to get it back to stock, and go to the corporate AT&T store to make the exchange.
Stupid HTC... =(
Printerscape said:
I see.
Thanks. Time to get it back to stock, and go to the corporate AT&T store to make the exchange.
Stupid HTC... =(
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If you haven't already been through returning to stock and need some help, lemme know. I hit all kindsa bumps and might be able to help make your experience a lil smoother.
Tx Redneck said:
If you haven't already been through returning to stock and need some help, lemme know. I hit all kindsa bumps and might be able to help make your experience a lil smoother.
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Thanks, but I just finished.
Downloaded the stock PD98IMG.zip, installed it, rename/remove the .zip, went through the Ace Hack directions upto #3, and wrote "./gfree -s on" on the terminal emulator, put/rename the .zip back to PD98IMG.zip and boot into bootloader, let it auto-update back to stock.
Done, with SHIP S-ON showing in the bootloader, and having the stock ROM.
=)
*EDIT*
With everything now stock, the GPS should work, but guess what. It doesn't heh... same issue as with the ROMs. It locks fine (in 200-400 seconds...), but isn't accurate at all.
Good deal. Enjoy your new phone.
cableguychad said:
I exchanged mine because the GPS only worked when it wanted. My new phone has been great never less than 6 sats and 10-20 ft accuracy.
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For those of you who are running custom ROMs and are having GPS fix trouble (especially if you're in North America / US) I can confirm that using the below market app will solve your problems, assuming that you don't legitimately have hardware issues:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&feature=search_result
Permit me to paraphrase this thread over at the HTC forums:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/113/p/9302/40077.aspx
Unlike HTC phones running WindowsMobile, HTC's Android phones do not have a 'Quick GPS' applet to automatically download ephemeral data from the web. Therefore it may require an extremely long startup time for the system ROM and GPS chip to download the data from satellites which takes far longer than doing so from the internet. Using the above application greatly speeds the update of data, much in the way that 'Quick GPS' did for HTC WM phones by downloading ephemeral data from the internet to maintain updated satellite tables in the GPS chipset.
My guess is that many of the base ROMs being used (like RCMix Kingdom) are from overseas (EU or Asia) phones which have their satellite data tables geared for that region. That's why many of us, when using new custom ROMs are having trouble on warmup because the tables are assuming a sky over Germany or Taiwan, rather than a sky over NY or UT.
Hope this helps. Let me know if anyone else has success or failure with it. And of course, if you find it solves your problems, please donate to the developer of the app.
I agree with you about that Bill, I truly think some peoples problems are hardware related as was mine. My GPS is insane on my new phone. So I personally recommend to anybody with GPS issues to exchange if you've exhausted all avenues.
My gps works great, without a case. Putting a case on it kills the gps reception. AT&T refuses to exchange it for me. I'm using a seido innocase now, which has the least effect on the gps.
Unhappy about the whole situation.
I tried the app bill recommended as well. No luck. I called att and went from customer support, to technical support, to warranty support and they are sending me a replacement. I went through the ropes and was polite and described how the gps does not work in any application and they were courteous and helped me out. Hopefully it will fix my gps. I may just run the rooted stock rom to allow sideloading once I get it. It would be nice if it supports tethering... need to look into that.
The ****?
AT&T refused to replace the phone.
I am under the 30-day grace period (new customer).
I showed them that my phone has 0 locks, and my Google Maps is only accurate to 1600 meters in their store.
They claimed it was because I'm indoors, and I showed them the store model, which had a 5 meter accuracy with GPS.
I even asked to download the GPS Status app on the store model, and it had 9 satellites locked on.
Mine? Same location, 0 satellites even visible.
I told them I think the GPS chip is broken, and they said there is no GPS chip on the phone, and that it's all done by the SIM card. . .
They replaced my SIM card, and told me they won't replace the phone, as there's nothing wrong with it.
What the hell do I do?
Go back and talk to a manager or find a different ATT store. They should exchange without to much grief.
Printerscape said:
The ****?
AT&T refused to replace the phone.
I am under the 30-day grace period (new customer).
I showed them that my phone has 0 locks, and my Google Maps is only accurate to 1600 meters in their store.
They claimed it was because I'm indoors, and I showed them the store model, which had a 5 meter accuracy with GPS.
I even asked to download the GPS Status app on the store model, and it had 9 satellites locked on.
Mine? Same location, 0 satellites even visible.
I told them I think the GPS chip is broken, and they said there is no GPS chip on the phone, and that it's all done by the SIM card. . .
They replaced my SIM card, and told me they won't replace the phone, as there's nothing wrong with it.
What the hell do I do?
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Go to a different corporate at&t store? Or try to call at&t and have them send you a replacement.
cableguychad said:
Go back and talk to a manager or find a different ATT store. They should exchange without to much grief.
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Go to a different corporate at&t store? Or try to call at&t and have them send you a replacement.
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I just find it funny how they simply refuse that there's a GPS chip in there, and that the SIM card is responsible for the GPS lock...
Are you kidding me? -_-
I am overseas and can not get a gps lock. I am using stock ep3h. I didn't think this phone was tied so closely to agps. anyone had this issue or solved the problem
If u can get to the market, download faster fix, and set the region to the country you are in.... requires root
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fasterfix offers no help. any other suggestions
Faster fix will change your region if you can't use GPS after that you must have a different problem,
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yes I have another problem. does anyone have any other suggestions
Airplane mode will turn off all radios including gps.
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unless the charge is different gps is not tied to airplane. I have a few other phones that work in airplane. I have also tried in non airplane but I still have no cdma service. can anyone confirm that there gps has worked overseas with no cdma service?
doesnt gps work with wifi or 3g/4g? cuz phone need to upload the map where u at it..
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doesnt gps work with wifi or 3g/4g? cuz phone need to upload the map where u at it..
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Not if you're using offline maps that are completely stored on your phone. There's no need for a data connection for those.
I also use the GPS in airplane mode all the time while I hike in the mountains where there are no cell towers or wifi, so I understand where you are coming from. I use google MyTracks all the time while running and hiking.
I am not sure how to fix your issue, but I have a few ideas for you to try.
First, when you move over 100 miles with a gps off and then turn it on generally you will need 45 minutes to 1 hour for the gps to realize it is somewhere new.
Download GPS Test and GPS Status. Give them each a try for 15 minutes outside. These apps have some strange magic that has fixed several of my phones just by running them for a bit.
Let me know how this works out.
Dave
I have had it outside for 2 hours with no lock. gps test is no help
any other suggestions
Lets get a little further into the issue then... You stated no lock. But did the GPS ever pick up any sats? If so what were the sat numbers?
I have seen 6 satellites only once without lock. I normally see 0 to 3 with zero most of the time. it is seeing some of the same satellites my other phone with a full lock is seeing but this phone will never lock. I just think the agps feature is so embedded that the receiver is lost without it's data. which sucks because I center still the offline gps features on this that my cheap world phone doesn't have.
Last week I flew from the U.S. to Germany for a month-long business visit. I brought my Nexus S 4G (Bugless Pete's ICS ROM/kernal) knowing that I wouldn't be able to use the phone, but figured I'd still be able to get wireless and GPS.
The GPS worked fine in the U.S. but has been terrible here. I was able to get a single lock on my location the first day, but ever since have been unable to get anything. I also have an HTC Flyer which doesn't have any problems with GPS, so it's not the signal.
Is there any reason why the NS4G specifically would have poor GPS in Europe? Any tweaks that can be made?
I wonder if Hitler had something to do with it
I found some stuff that might help. One app is FasterGPS. It works by changing your region for a faster lock, so it should help...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm9yZy5mYXN0ZXJncHMiXQ
Another app I use is QBANIN GPSfix, which I activate after turning GPS location on but before actually using the Navigation or Maps app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12406555&postcount=11
Someone said this worked too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22088356&postcount=1534
fwald said:
Last week I flew from the U.S. to Germany for a month-long business visit. I brought my Nexus S 4G (Bugless Pete's ICS ROM/kernal) knowing that I wouldn't be able to use the phone, but figured I'd still be able to get wireless and GPS.
The GPS worked fine in the U.S. but has been terrible here. I was able to get a single lock on my location the first day, but ever since have been unable to get anything. I also have an HTC Flyer which doesn't have any problems with GPS, so it's not the signal.
Is there any reason why the NS4G specifically would have poor GPS in Europe? Any tweaks that can be made?
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In the US it's able to use wifi and cell tower A-GPS triangulation data to help get the initial location determined. When that data is factored in, the lock is a lot easier to get.
If you can happen to hop on a wifi network out there, I bet you'll be able to get a lock pretty quickly too.
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I found some stuff that might help.
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Thanks, I'll give those a shot.
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In the US it's able to use wifi and cell tower A-GPS triangulation data to help get the initial location determined. When that data is factored in, the lock is a lot easier to get.
If you can happen to hop on a wifi network out there, I bet you'll be able to get a lock pretty quickly too.
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I think you're absolutely right. When I did get the lock, I was on wifi.
And now that I think about it some more, Google Maps and Navigation must need an active data link to work, right? The map info isn't stored locally.
fwald said:
Thanks, I'll give those a shot.
I think you're absolutely right. When I did get the lock, I was on wifi.
And now that I think about it some more, Google Maps and Navigation must need an active data link to work, right? The map info isn't stored locally.
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There is a lab setting that lets you cache map tiles for like 10 mi square areas I think. I've never actually tried it. I expect it will just get you map information but not actually get you directions and navigation working though. Those I think will require an active data link.
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There is a lab setting that lets you cache map tiles for like 10 mi square areas I think. I've never actually tried it. I expect it will just get you map information but not actually get you directions and navigation working though. Those I think will require an active data link.
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Yeah I've tried it, it's pretty useful. You can download the maps via WiFi and it'll save them to your phone