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This is my moderate use. Few web here and there facebook, some calls/texts and instant messaging for a good 3hrs
I am running cog 2.2b5
Just wanted to compare battery life and post the rom you are running too
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my battery life sucks. i get about 10% per hour....
What Rom are you using?
yeah my batt isn't too great either. 2 days on Cog V5 now. Each day has been roughly 10hrs with about 4.2hrs use. Each day I ended with maybe 1-2% left.
Is this normal? Froyo didn't help a bit. In fact it may have made it slightly worse.
When I flashed b5 ... it was great. Then I found my gps sucks on it so I flashed again and I found that the battery drains like water 1% every 5 mins! ( Idk what's going there) Then, I flashed again and the above post is my result and my gps still sucks. So maybe if you flash it again it might help. I re partitioned in odin as well.
I am using Froyo (JI6) with lagfix and I get a consistatnt 12+ hours of moderate use. I usually charge my phone every three days.
Cog 2.1.7
I have to charge my phone every night. I have used multiple roms from cog 2.1 and even cog 2.2 as well as stock and it all seems the same.
There is no way that is an accurate picture... there is no way you made phone calls or used the facebook app without it showing up in usage.... u may have gotten 40% out of 12hrs but you did nothing with your phone
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all my calls are usually short and yes i used facebook app and facebook browser as well.
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There is no way that is an accurate picture... there is no way you made phone calls or used the facebook app without it showing up in usage....
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I use tons of apps on my phone and the only things the show up in my battery usage are: Display, cell standby, phone idle and voice calls.
you need to recalibrate your batteries or flash from 100% as DesignGears had mentioned earlier.
i now flash from 100% batt life when upgrading to new ROMs. or do a search for battery calibration.
Not sure how to do a screen shot but Im running 2.2 beta 5 and I thought battery life sucked but it was because I was checking it constantly and playing with GPS.
Today, after recalibrating battery stats two nights ago I have dropped 3% in 3 hrs of standby and very, very light use.
Also, to recalibrate battery stats I downloaded terminal emulator and did the following
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rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
I had drained it fully down to 1-2%, did the above commands, plugged it in and charged to 100%. You must be rooted to do it this way I would think since Im using su for superuser.
Yea, I recalibrate the battery on my 2nd flash. the first flash my battery was draining literally 1% per minute. So I reflashed (I thought something went wrong on my 1st flash) and recalibrated now it's normal again.
gocats7: Yup cog comes rooted
Cognition is awesome. With all the features built in, the att crapware stripped out I dont see myself ever running a stock ROM again. In regards to battery though, I think its at least as good as stock if not better. I havent had 2.2 beta 5 loaded long enough to really tell.
I've never had poor battery life. I did have that "new phone syndrome" when I got it and had to charge it a lot. But now I'm going around a day and a half on a charge with moderate use. I use wifi everywhere I can and try to minimize the time the screen stays on.
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I've never had poor battery life. I did have that "new phone syndrome" when I got it and had to charge it a lot. But now I'm going around a day and a half on a charge with moderate use. I use wifi everywhere I can and try to minimize the time the screen stays on.
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Have you found that wifi has been helping your battery life? When I have mine on I lose battery at ~5-10% an hour. With it off I lose 1-2% an hour. I have to switch it off nightly so that I don't have to charge my phone again in the morning.
Just the thread I was looking for...
I just recently bought a captivate that had the battery problems it seems so many are having with random shutdowns etc. I would get maybe 12 hours before getting the recharge notice. And that is with very little use. So, along with the advice from these forums, I had it replaced within my 30 days and immediately noticed a difference in the way the phone felt(if that even makes sense). It seemed like the screws were tighter, it was cleaner and it way out performed my previous captivate. Had me thinking I was given a display model or something.
So, to keep it short....I just plugged in after (for me) a very impressive 64 hour strech with moderate useage, some gaming and movie watching. Could not be happier with this phone right now. I cannot for the life of me figure out how such an impressive spec'd phone can use so very little power while locked. It makes me feel like a proud parent...lol.
I <3 My Captivate...
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Have you found that wifi has been helping your battery life? When I have mine on I lose battery at ~5-10% an hour. With it off I lose 1-2% an hour. I have to switch it off nightly so that I don't have to charge my phone again in the morning.
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I have actually found my battery lasts longer with wifi on. I only turn it off when I leave the house. For me the wifi seems to be a lot more power/data efficient then my data connection. I can use the phone all day on wifi and still have 20% left at the end of the day whereas when I've been out all day long using data I can barely make it home without it *****ing at me to charge the phone.
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I have had the best battery life yet with Cog 2.2 Beta 5.5 and migrating my Exchange server to Google Apps Premium so I do not need to use stock corporate email app anymore. I am pretty happy with this so far although I have only used the new beta for a day so far.
As a bonus, I am even using Live Wallpaper.
27hr, just dropped below 30%. Love it
i just installed the OTA update yesterday, and noticed that my battery life has been better today.
i'm wondering if it's the 3G reception that's better and in turn causing less battery strain to search for a network - i previously had a hard time getting any coverage at all at my work, and now i'm getting 1-2 bars with 3G.
also, no faulty reboots at all thus far. (knock on wood).
anybody else experiencing better battery life with this new update?
I was thinking the same thing. Not rooted, stock battery. Updated last night and today was the first time I have ever gotten more than 24hrs out of it. Not much more, but a milestone just the same. Uptime 24:35, awake time 2:55, 13% left. 4G all day, no reboots.
my battery life is actually worse, hard to believe....
im using cm7 beta. im not even going to think about the ota until i see that most users report it works. i bought an extended battery and its not perfect but much more tolerable
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Mine improved after ota.
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I was thinking the same thing. Not rooted, stock battery. Updated last night and today was the first time I have ever gotten more than 24hrs out of it. Not much more, but a milestone just the same. Uptime 24:35, awake time 2:55, 13% left. 4G all day, no reboots.
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More than 16 or 18 is just a luxury anyways, depending on how many hours per day you sleep.
Yes, I can think of situations where you can't charge overnight while you sleep, but for the vast majority of users and situations, as long as the phone lasts from the time the user wakes up to the time they go to bed, that's all the battery life they need. I don't see why people get so upset that they have to charge a battery powered device overnight while they sleep.
Along the same vein, not sure why people are so adverse to adding a little juice while in the car, or at the computer or at home.
All that said, I don't disagree that battery life is a serious bummer on the TBolt. Even with undervolted custom kernels if you're on the stock battery and actually use your phone a lot throughout the day, you're going to run into worries if you're not able to boost charge a time or two. I've got the extended battery and it makes a world of difference, but it's ugly and awkward and heavy. I much prefer the phone's look and feel with just the stock battery.
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i just installed the OTA update yesterday, and noticed that my battery life has been better today.
i'm wondering if it's the 3G reception that's better and in turn causing less battery strain to search for a network - i previously had a hard time getting any coverage at all at my work, and now i'm getting 1-2 bars with 3G.
also, no faulty reboots at all thus far. (knock on wood).
anybody else experiencing better battery life with this new update?
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Yeah I tried posting about this before, and people called me crazy, but even with LTE on, if your phone is having trouble finding 3G, it will destroy your battery life.
I had this happen when eHRPD when down, and my phone wasn't forced to the standard 3G network and kept searching for eHRPD and it killed my battery. I switched to the standard 3G, had a signal, and was fine since, then turned eHRPD back on before it was back up, and had 4G on, but my phone died in 2 hours, with 98% battery was it trying to find a signal. Switched back to standard 3G and back to perfect battery life.
SO I agree if they fix 3G it will help with the battery issue.
Same silly battery life for me. 4 hours "awake time" and I'm down 35% of my battery. With it just sitting on the arm of my couch. maybe 10 texts, no phone calls, no internet surfing, no email, no facebook, nothing. 11 hour battery life with no use? Absolutely amazing.
I've searched about a million times in 900 different threads, but I still can't find a fix to this issue.
I first noticed this when I flashed MIUI onto my phone. I would get cell standby and cell idle at about 40-50% of battery usage each. Display wouldn't even be shown on the usage! I then figured MIUI wasn't worth it to me, so I flashed CM7. I tried both morfic's and faux's many kernels, nothing seemed to fix the issue. If I would turn the airplane mode on, I'd get battery drain of only like 2%/hour.
So I figured there was something wrong with the CM7 port, so I tried g2xtreme and other GB ROMs, same thing. Finally, I just checked a froyo ROM, same thing again!
So at this point I'm clueless and thinking the phone is completely a POS, but anyways. I'm about to nandroid restore stock 2.2 firmware, and try updating through the LG Mobile Support Tool.
But I have my doubts that this will fix it. I'm curious though if maybe I'm getting this drain because I'm with WIND Mobile in Canada? And this is for the T-Mobile G2X (they're the same phone and both companies use the same radio frequencies). But maybe there's something written in these ROMs to tell the phone to look for the T-Mobile network? Which I obviously won't be able to find in Canada.
Can someone help me locate these settings, if they exist? Or can someone with a Wind phone maybe toss me the WIND stock firmware? Or let me know what ROM they're using without said issue?
Thanks guys!
Edit:: In low signal areas the phone drains like 15-20% per hour, in high signal areas the phone is still pulling like 8%-10% an hour and I'm not even using it! And the weird thing is it only shows 1% time without signal! Something is seriously wrong with this firmware.
Search for betterbatterystats on XDA, install it, enable battery monitoring in MIUI (if that's your daily rom), leave your phone alone for a few hours, then open BBS and look at the partial wakelocks under "since unplugged." There you'll see what's killing your battery.
Everyone experiences worse battery life when reception is bad, but you are still getting terrible drainage in good areas, which means there's something other than reception killing your battery.
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Search for betterbatterystats on XDA, install it, enable battery monitoring in MIUI (if that's your daily rom), leave your phone alone for a few hours, then open BBS and look at the partial wakelocks under "since unplugged." There you'll see what's killing your battery.
Everyone experiences worse battery life when reception is bad, but you are still getting terrible drainage in good areas, which means there's something other than reception killing your battery.
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I tried that before, and had a crapload of apps "frozen" with titanium backup.
I'm going to try this again, and I'll post a screenshot this time because I don't think I actually understood what betterbattery stats was trying to tell me last time.
If anyone can help me decode it later that would be great!
Just noticed that there's barely anything under partial wakelock that's noticeable.. RIJL Telephony is the highest with 1m 1s 15%.
But it's not increasing very much, only when I get a text message. However, I've dropped about 7% since my last message, and cell standby is increasing climbing up my battery usage from 33% to 42%. It went from 620uah to 657uah.
Edit:: I reset battery stats cause I was unsure if it was corrupted stats. I started at 17% 40 minutes later I'm at 12%. Phone was off 90% of the time. I made a 2.5 minute call and it used 41uah, while cell standby still dominated with 65uah.
However, I turned my phone on for 5 minutes, making total usage 45 minutes, but had the brightness set to max, and in that five minutes it only used 1uah.
Am I missing something here? At this point I don't know if my numbers are normal or not anymore... I'm going to try draining the battery, charging to full, wiping battery stats, and calibrating and see what happens but 65uah to 1uah is a huge difference, I would've thought display would use a bit more than that.
I noticed this morning that having the phone with airplane mode OFF, that my battery dropped 10% in 57 minutes, and after turning the airplane mode ON, the battery dropped 1% in the next hour and 30 minutes. I checked battery stats and nothing was waking up my phone. Anyone have any other suggestions?
I'm going to flash miui and leave it without any apps installed then try this experiment again.
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I find these threads interesting because I am always looking for better battery life.
I am running EB 2.3.3
I uninstalled Set CPU and uninstalled Juice Defender. From my experience both hurt my battery life.
I never bothered to measure in airplane mode, because i use my phone to much.
My battery life improved dramatically during stand-by. 1% to 2% drop per hour with wifi on and a slightly bigger drop with wifi off.
I completely wiped the phone before installing EB and the used Titanium Backup to reinstall my apps without the data. I believe some of my previous battery life issues came from restoring data from certain apps.
I have the same phone/carrier. Do you leave 3G turned on? I feel it rapes my battery throughout the day. When I turned it off, it lasts pretty long.
Another problem I have though, is the drain when it is OFF. I went to bed with it at 90% juice and turned it off. I woke up 8 hours later, and it was at 65% when I turned it on. wtf. This only happens sometimes thou.. Other times it doesn't drop too much.
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I have the same phone/carrier. Do you leave 3G turned on? I feel it rapes my battery throughout the day. When I turned it off, it lasts pretty long.
Another problem I have though, is the drain when it is OFF. I went to bed with it at 90% juice and turned it off. I woke up 8 hours later, and it was at 65% when I turned it on. wtf. This only happens sometimes thou.. Other times it doesn't drop too much.
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I experience the exact same issue. But for some reason my battery life is more or less the same with 3g off. So I feel like my phone is constantly searching for a different signal or something? I mean if airplane mode affects my battery life that drastically reducing consumption by like 9%/hour then there must be something up
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Everyone who's been telling my phone is not sleeping is correct.
Only program is is that my phone's battery stats doesn't say which app is waking the phone? It lists Telephony as #1 with 1m 1s of awake time, and everything else is minuscule. There's gotta be something the phone isn't telling me :S Could it possibly be a hardware issue?
Or is there a better way I can narrow down this issue? I'm in the process of removing all apps.
Just curious, did you 'train' your battery?
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Just curious, did you 'train' your battery?
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Nope, but it's Li-Ion and my impression was these do not need to be trained.
I just emptied it to complete 0 yesterday, and charged it to complete 100% then calibrated it. Today though it was still horrible battery life until I completely wiped and flashed MIUI 1.9.23 then Trinity kernel brand new. I'm installing apps 1 by 1 to see which one caused me so much darn grief :S
All batteries are Li-ion nowadays, but I still feel after 'training' my battery for a week, they last substantially longer than new ones, fresh out the plastic.
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All batteries are Li-ion nowadays, but I still feel after 'training' my battery for a week, they last substantially longer than new ones, fresh out the plastic.
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I did end up conditioning it, not sure if it helped or if it was cause I flashed a new rom, but everything is finally working in order now
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Battery drain fixed?
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Battery drain fixed?
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Yes, battery drain is fixed. Also, I was on a completely different baseband for some reason, I was on the o2x baseband, fixed that JUST now, I think that was a part of the reason I was draining my battery like instantly. It was probably looking for a GSM signal!
Thank you for all your help
A simple *#*#4636#*#* can change that.
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A simple *#*#4636#*#* can change that.
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Yeah I set it to WCDMA Only. Battery life has been awesome lately.
Hey all,
About three weeks ago I had a strange problem. I noticed that in two straight charge cycles, my battery life plummeted from about 80% to zero in just a few hours. I'm not sure what the issue was. I hadn't changed settings, installed new apps, etc. My first screenshot shows an example of what happened. 4G and data were off during the entire time.
Since then, things have been okay. I typically get 3 days standby with 4G on and light use, or 4 days with 4G off. That's mostly standby with maybe an hour or so of talking and minimal use.
After those strange battery plummets, I installed and used GSam Battery Monitor to get more details about what processes were running on my phone in case I noticed the sharp drop happening again. Everything had been fine for over two weeks, with me getting expected battery life before this issue and not experiencing any odd, sudden drops (maybe 5 or 6 charge cycles). This lends me to conclude that my battery's charge capacity is okay, and calibration also shouldn't be an issue.
However, the problem arose once again a couple days ago. Went from 75% to nothing in just a few hours. 4G was off during that time. The third and fourth screenshots show the same issue. Charged my phone, and this morning the same thing happened yet again. At about 90% the plummet began, and within an hour or so I was at 75%. At this point I took screenshots of Android's battery status, and I also did the same for GSam to show what apps and processes were running. The phone's temperature seemed fine.
The GSam screenshots taken when the phone was at 75% and dropping are in the next post, since I'm limited to four images in this one. I have no idea what's causing this massive, sudden battery drain. The only thing I can think of is that I've done Verizon's OTA updates, but otherwise pretty much all my settings, apps, and usage are the same. Plus, for two weeks I had normal battery behavior, so I'm completely baffled.
I also know that cell standby is incorrectly reported in the GS3 battery screen, and I'm getting a good signal where I live so that shouldn't be a problem. I forgot to get screen time for the first case (first two images), but it shouldn't be more than 10-15 min there since most of the charge was lost due to the freak plummet.
If anyone may have an idea of what's going on, or if there are some tools/tests I may use to figure this out, I'd really appreciate it. I turned off my phone after taking the screenshots at 75%, so if I need to turn it on and check something for you I can probably do that. Thanks a lot.
FYI, here are GSam screenshots from when the battery was in the process of plummeting this morning.
i think you built in battery status settings are off. i barely get 12 hrs with medium use, so what i think it happens is that the battery monitor is not showing the proper discharge, and then all of a sudden it catches up to the discharge rate.
are you on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader?
wizzardeel said:
i think you built in battery status settings are off. i barely get 12 hrs with medium use, so what i think it happens is that the battery monitor is not showing the proper discharge, and then all of a sudden it catches up to the discharge rate.
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I am stock rom. No rooting, no unlocking.
These plunges are definitely an anomaly. Truly, with me barely using the phone and turning off mobile data, I get a few days of standby. I've had the phone since July, and the aberration in battery behavior has been the steep plunges I've shown.
In between these instance of steep plunges, I've had normal use. I really don't think it's an issue of calibration. Please believe me when I say that my normal, light use during the past four months gets me anywhere from 3-5 days with me barely using the phone. When I say barely using it, I mean not even touching it for an entire day if nobody calls me. But now, a sudden plunge in battery life is happening at 80% with no apparent reason.
I think it might be some kind of software or hardware glitch, but it's impossible for this to be normal given the battery life I typically get. Just looking at that steep drop, it's crazy and just happens out of nowhere.
But please trust me when I say that these sudden plunges that have happened a total of 4 or 5 times, causing the battery to drain completely in a few hours when I'm not touching it, are quite a drastic aberration from the normal standby life I get. Something is definitely wrong here, I just don't know what.
And one more thing to add is that after this sudden plunge and rapid drain, charging the battery still takes the normal time it does when I'm not having this issue. That is, about 2.5-3 hours to reach a full charge (and I charge with the phone 'off'). The battery is being completely drained. But this happened twice, then didn't happen for maybe 5-6 charge cycles, then happened again twice.
Before the first instance, I remember an OTA Verizon update around 10/5. My phone was okay for 2-3 charge cycles after that. Then two rapid drains. Then 5-6 normal cycles. Then two more rapid drains. There was a second Verizon OTA update somewhere in there but I can't remember.
and you said it only started once you did the OTA update from verizon right? well you could either try to go back to the stock verizon rom pre-update and see what happens there, or contact verizon and let them know what happens with the new OTA update. they could replace your phone, or it could be a bug of the new OTA update. i am on stock rom and rooted and deleted the apk that kept on trying to push the update. just unlocked by bootloader and so far my battery life has improved compared to previous locked bootloader.
i would take it to a verizon store and show them. They might give you a new battery.
I may have to do that. I'm just not really sure what the issue is.
- The battery can still hold a full charge.
- Based on running services, nothing is causing high CPU usage.
- The sudden plummet almost seems kind of random.
- Since there have been normal charge cycles, it's not an issue of calibration.
I'm not sure if this is a hardware issue or software issue. I'm trying to wrap my brain around what could cause the battery to drain so suddenly and sharply. Could the charge somehow be "leaking"? But in that case I'd expect it to happen all the time. If there's an underlying software issue, is there any other tool I might be able to use to figure it out?
Does the phone get hot?
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Does the phone get hot?
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Not from what I can tell. Note that the first couple plummet drains were overnight.
But today I caught it before noon. The phone wasn't hot, and the GSam screenshots show no CPU stress.
Maybe you can do a factory reset and se if that helps. They will probably do one if you bring it to verizon anyways. It sure sound like a hardware problem. You'd think if the processors are working that hard that the phone would get hot, I know mine gets pretty hot sometimes under heavy use.
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Thing is, all indications show the CPU isn't working hard, and the phone wasn't hot.
I'm stumped.
This is a noobish question, but I presume the only way to go back to stock is to factory reset? One thing I might wait for is the Jelly Bean update, presuming this random drain holds off until then.
But yea, I dread going into VZW because they're just going to try to pass this off onto me doing something wrong, or me not knowing how to calibrate the battery, etc. The information I've provided in my OP and in the screenshots would fly over their heads. Maybe I can just do an online chat and tell VZ to send me another battery?
The only other thing I can think of is that sometime before these plummets happened, I went online to MyVerizon and turned off the Backup Assistant for movies/music/etc. so I wouldn't get all those notifications. I don't think this could be the issue, since the plummet happens when data is off. Plus, GSam would show that Backup Assistant is hogging the CPU or forcing a signal.
I doubt swapping batteries will fix it, though. I'm thinking my internal hardware might have a serious problem.
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Thing is, all indications show the CPU isn't working hard, and the phone wasn't hot.
I'm stumped.
This is a noobish question, but I presume the only way to go back to stock is to factory reset? One thing I might wait for is the Jelly Bean update, presuming this random drain holds off until then.
But yea, I dread going into VZW because they're just going to try to pass this off onto me doing something wrong, or me not knowing how to calibrate the battery, etc. The information I've provided in my OP and in the screenshots would fly over their heads. Maybe I can just do an online chat and tell VZ to send me another battery?
The only other thing I can think of is that sometime before these plummets happened, I went online to MyVerizon and turned off the Backup Assistant for movies/music/etc. so I wouldn't get all those notifications. I don't think this could be the issue, since the plummet happens when data is off. Plus, GSam would show that Backup Assistant is hogging the CPU or forcing a signal.
I doubt swapping batteries will fix it, though. I'm thinking my internal hardware might have a serious problem.
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Before the update, was everything normal?
Is the update with the HE base/baseband?
It probably isn't a hardware problem, just a bad base.
I've noticed after updating my GS3 to the HE base and the battery life was just horrid.
It's said that the new HE baseband uses up more battery also
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Before the update, was everything normal?
Is the update with the HE base/baseband?
It probably isn't a hardware problem, just a bad base.
I've noticed after updating my GS3 to the HE base and the battery life was just horrid.
It's said that the new HE baseband uses up more battery also
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "HE" base/baseband.
But yea, this problem didn't come up until after an OTA update.
Check your baseband version under Settings -> About and paste it here
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It's I535VRLHE
Kernel version: 3.0.8-1092717
Build number IMM76D.I535VRALHE
I turned on the phone and within 10 min or so the battery life went down by 2-3% without me doing anything. As a test I've put it into Airplane mode, and it's decreased by about 2% in 45 min.
Now I'm wondering if I have a faulty antenna or something.
Yup ive had it drain 90% overnight many times for no reason. Called verizon and my new battery should be here today.
1+ day on battery and only 11 minutes of screen time?!?
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It's I535VRLHE
Kernel version: 3.0.8-1092717
Build number IMM76D.I535VRALHE
I turned on the phone and within 10 min or so the battery life went down by 2-3% without me doing anything. As a test I've put it into Airplane mode, and it's decreased by about 2% in 45 min.
Now I'm wondering if I have a faulty antenna or something.
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HE is the baseband version and the build number. For example I have: Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband: I535VRLG7
Build: IM76D.I535VRALG7
which is the version before the update.
Like everybody else said, call Verizon or go to a store and let them know about the battery issues and they should send you a new one. Or even call Samsung and tell them you bought an S3 through Verizon and you are having battery hardware issues.
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1+ day on battery and only 11 minutes of screen time?!?
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Well, no calls made or received during that time. No data being used.
So, wasn't really using the phone during that time...
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?
What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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NexusS4gFreak said:
So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.
Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/