I'm interested in buying a used Vibrant, but only if I can root and turn off Touchwiz without flashing a custom ROM. Can you even root a phone and run its stock ROM? Or do you need a custom one to take its place? I'd ultimately like to delete all the bloatware, take off Touchwiz, and run stock 2.1.
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Hello Everyone,
I have in the last 3 or 4 days joined in the rooted party of phones. With the Stock 2.2 rooted ROM on my Incredible i have tried a number of Circle Battery mods without success.
Thanks to the people that did a walk through on nandroid backups and restores i have not completely broke my phone.
With the above being known i apologize to anyone that reads this and says to them self "IDIOT!!" but i have a few questions I'm hoping i can get some answers on from other people with Incredibles.
1. If I install a different ROM like Cyanogen or Uncommon Sense to get the Circle Battery mod working will i be able to get back to my stock 2.2 rooted ROM using the restore like i did before?
1a. Is doing the ROM update done just like installing a mod "recovery-->install from .zip-->choose .zip"?
2. Is the Stock 2.2 rooted ROM worth staying with?
2a. If not and Verizon comes out with 3.0 or whatever the next number is can i go back to the stock ROM?
3. Does anyone have any known working Circle Battery mods for the Incredible running stock 2.2 rooted? ((I'm looking for something like "Ultimate Online Theme Kitchen") (SCB with %, Version Z, Custom type, colors--> A.))
Thanks for anyone replying.
I'm no expert, but I believe the reason the battery mod doesn't work with your stock ROM is because in order for those types of customizations to work, your ROM must be de-odexed. This is pretty standard in most custom ROMs but is not the case with stock.
As for your questions:
kevinlferguson said:
1. If I install a different ROM like Cyanogen or Uncommon Sense to get the Circle Battery mod working will i be able to get back to my stock 2.2 rooted ROM using the restore like i did before?
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Yes, but when you do the restore everything will go back to the way it was before you flashed the new ROM. You won't be able to restore and keep the battery icon. When you create a nandroid backup, it's essentially a complete snapshot inside and out of everything on your phone.
kevinlferguson said:
1a. Is doing the ROM update done just like installing a mod "recovery-->install from .zip-->choose .zip"?
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Yes. Be sure to wipe data/cache when flashing a new ROM though, otherwise you will run into problems. Always have a nandroid backup before flashing anything new just in case!
kevinlferguson said:
2. Is the Stock 2.2 rooted ROM worth staying with?
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It depends on what you are looking for. Many ROMs include additional features, performance tweaks and customization options not available with stock. I'd suggest trying a few out to see what fits your tastes. If you're looking for something similar to stock with all the junk removed and ability to add things like custom battery modifications, I would give Virtuous a try.
kevinlferguson said:
2a. If not and Verizon comes out with 3.0 or whatever the next number is can i go back to the stock ROM?
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For the most part, I would just stay rooted, as you'll most likely be able to get an official 3.0 ROM leak before Verizon gets an OTA out anyway. However, there are ways to revert to stock and unroot your device if you really want to. A little searching of these forums can provide you with a guide on how to do this.[/QUOTE]
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Wow... thanks for the information XideXL i think i will try a few other ROMs like your suggest and just keep my nandroid backup on hand should anything go bad.
Searched but couldn't find answer to my exact question. I've rooted/unlocked my Nexus S but I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM. I've downloaded a few possibilities though
However, let's say I decide to stay on stock, the next update that comes out 2.3.5, can I just flash that like I used to before I flashed a new recovery (and renamed the original recovery file) or would I have to revert to the original recovery? If the latter, how would I do this?
---I'm finding fewer compelling reasons for custom ROMs on the great Nexus S, its stock after all! I have no reason to overclock and I'm not into custom themes. However, on my MT4G (Glacier) there were many compelling reasons to root and flash a custom ROM. I now have a close to stock experience, got rid of the bloatware, and I get 2 days of battery life with RoyalGinger 2.1.
Having said that, I'm still itching to flash a few different ROMs on the NS and compare. Why, because I can now.
fionalindberg said:
Searched but couldn't find answer to my exact question. I've rooted/unlocked my Nexus S but I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM. I've downloaded a few possibilities though
However, let's say I decide to stay on stock, the next update that comes out 2.3.5, can I just flash that like I used to before I flashed a new recovery (and renamed the original recovery file) or would I have to revert to the original recovery? If the latter, how would I do this?
---I'm finding fewer compelling reasons for custom ROMs on the great Nexus S, its stock after all! I have no reason to overclock and I'm not into custom themes. However, on my MT4G (Glacier) there were many compelling reasons to root and flash a custom ROM. I now have a close to stock experience, got rid of the bloatware, and I get 2 days of battery life with RoyalGinger 2.1.
Having said that, I'm still itching to flash a few different ROMs on the NS and compare. Why, because I can now.
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You can flash signed updates without any issue with CWM or the stock recovery.
However, if you flash a new kernel / boot partition the incremental updates will fail the assert checks. The same goes for themes / modified system files. If the update does an assert on those files to patch them it will fail and not flash.
If you are running a fully stock rom, unlocked with su added on though you won't have any troubles.
I too am using a mytouch 4G and thinking about getting the nexus s just looking at the roms and themes I had royal ginger 2.1 and the battery is amazing easily go 16 hours with heavy usage is there any roms here similar to that. Also I do not see any sense 3.0 like roms maybe I missed it but when you install a custom rom does the Nfc chip still work with out any problems even though I have not seen many places in N.Y.C using it or just maybe haven't noticed. *****Edit: sorry wrong side meant to post of Tmobile nexus s******
Hi,
i have seen many people got problem after installing a new firmware or Rom.
Even though the next update might fix the error, but it feels annoying right?
So do you prefer to stay on stock rom or update if there is a new update?(not custom rom, official one.)
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
Sent from my rooted tomato using xda app
cascabel said:
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
Sent from my rooted tomato using xda app
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Thank you
But i afraid if i update and have a problem, and have to change back to previous rom it might affect my warranty, since i still have my phone's warranty i will not root and install custom rom, i afraid it might be affected even though it can still back to stock rom.
I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
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I did install a custom rom before to my previous rom and ever heard about getting warranty back by reinstall to stock rom, but i didn't have a chance to do it, so i am not really sure.
maya79 said:
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I had a LG before, and did try some custom rom. It was not so complicated.
But maybe other phone procedure might be a little different.
I've never left any of my Android phones alone ever. When I got my Motorola Droid (my first android OS phone) I rooted it a few hours after activation, a new ROM a few hours later while at work then put it all back to stock and got it replaced with a HTC Droid Incredible with the 30 day swap thing VZW does.
Flashing a custom ROM or staying stock is the whole reason XDA-Developers exists. Stock firmware are solid builds, but they are also very, very limited in what they allow you to do. I say allow because that is exactly what your carrier/manufacturer is doing with their firmware. With a custom ROM, you open the door to so many more possibilities, (ie tethering, mobile hotspot, Superuser access apps,...)
Now whether to stay on a stock FW or go custom, that is going to be up to you and what you want to get out of your device. My wife and I each have a phone and a tablet. All are Rooted. My Phone (Samsung Vibrant) is running a custom ROM by me, her phone (Motorola XT720) is running a custom ROM, her tablet (Nook Color) is running CyanogenMod 7.2, but my tablet (Asus Transformer) is running stock ROM but custom kernel.
Personally, I do not like Touchwiz from Samsung or Motoblur from Motorola, hate the bloat that both manufacturers put in there that I do not use. I also bought my wife a tablet that was Barnes&Noble branded android based FW, but I completley scrubbed it off and put a custom ROM on there for her. So now she has a full on tablet instead of a simple reader. See where I am going with this?
My tablet is fast, has all I need on it and since I am considered a power-user, I tinker with it but at this point I am satisfied with it as stock. Now, that is not to say that I have not altered it. I put a custom kernel on it and frozen some of the bloat that Asus provided. It came out with Honeycomb and then updated to ICS. Since I have had it on HC, it has seen 6 FW updates and every one of the ICS ROMs were terrible and left most users with a useless piece of machinery. Myself, I was able to keep it from de-evolving into that and have been happy with it ever since.
Hopefully this shows you that there are plenty of options for why to use a custom ROM but also to stick to stock firmware. It really just depends on you and what you want. Flashing is easy. Just read the OPs, search and read some more and above all, learn to make a Nandroid Backup.
Personally, I prefer to stay as close as possible to AOSP, with custom ROMs like Cyanogen. You don´t feel bounded by the locks imposed by the manufacturers or, even worse, the carriers.
In my experience, they are not as stable as stock ROMs (currently, I´m having some random reboots with cyanogen 9 in my Galaxy Note) so, if you don´t feel adventurous, stay stock.
Regards,
Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!
1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.
1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.
On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back
It's coming from China so I imagine there will be a few annoying icons but nothing major.
I want to root the phone.
Then install a CFWM & Backup Original Stock Rom
I don't plan on using anything other than the orginal stock rom however one day if I fancy a play and mess it up I can roll back.
The main thing I carer about is the root feature.
Anyone suggest any tutorials I cant find any specific for this phone just copys of roms from need rom, I need to know how to root and instal CFWM first!
Also can I chose what rom to boot when powering on, almost like running it dualm boot, one for work and one for play?
Thanks