Hello all. This is my first post on this forum. I have checked the rules first, but apologise in advance if I commit any "faux pas" with this thread...
Anyhow, I have just bought myself an HTC Touch HD, and having implemented a few tweaks already, I am quite satisfied so far. I should probably add that this is my first Pocket PC, having gone from only "normal" phones, my former being a Sony Ericsson K610i.
However, one thing that I have not yet managed to sort out, is how to get the best Gmail experience on my new device. On my old phone, I used Gmail's own mobile Java app. I was thinking about installing that on my HTC Touch HD as well, but then I came across a lot of forum and blog posts that claim the app to be virtually useless on a Windows Mobile device.
Of course, there is the obvious option of setting up an IMAP account on my phone, but two things make me hesitant on this:
1: I don't really like how Gmail behaves when you enable IMAP connections, i.e. sent e-mails are stored in a separate "IMAP Sent" folder, and such things. (I know this is nitpicking, but still... )
2: I think I read somewhere online that the e-mail client in TouchFlo 3d requires a wifi data connection to work. If that is the case, then it's really useless for me, since the whole idea is to make it possible for me to check/write e-mails when I'm on a train or bus. Can anyone confirm if this limitation really exists?
Finally, does anyone know if there is any work being done by Google and/or Microsoft to create a proper Gmail application for Windows Mobile?
Have you tried the mobile browser version of Gmail?
WizardN00b said:
Have you tried the mobile browser version of Gmail?
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If you mean the application that's described HERE, then yes. That's the app that I used on my old phone, that I have read will not work very well on a Windows Mobile device.
just goto gmail.com in opera. works fine for me
gmail's own app works quite well on my touch pro and also for the HD when i had one...just gotta see if you can live with the true vga version, which makes things small, or find one of the versions on here that support vga
I use mobipush.com to push my gmail account. You don't need wifi for email. Gmail (google) is supposed to be making it easier to access (but who knows)
Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
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5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midomi ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.
fil said:
Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
Apps & software
5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midom i ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.
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I was in the same dilemma as you a few months back. i was a hardcore WM fan, but decided to make the switch to Android. i never looked back. Once you experience android it is like a completely experience. i got a galaxy tab, and kept my tg01 just incase i didn't like android, but now i would definetely let android be my next primary phone. if you want to experience android yourself, try out a ROM for your tp2.
like you, i dislike wp7, it is so restricted. Android is open source there is so much you can do for it.
My next phone will be a android, no doubt, possibly those dual core ones . i suggest waiting till after march when the dual cores are released.
Hope this helps mate
fil said:
Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
Apps & software
5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midomi ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.
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1. Yes you can configure Hotmail with Exchange to have push mail. I've only tried it for a short time and received several times the same message so can't tell you if that was a one-time bug or if it is usual. Anyway you can still configure a reception in POP every 5 minutes.
But you'll have the best of Android experience if you use a Gmail account instead. The push works really nice.
2. You can use Google Sync to transfer all your calendar from WM to Android.
3. Sprite Migrate allows the transfer of bookmarks but I don't remember which browser favorites it transfers.
4. For contacts you can use either Google Sync or Sprite Migrate. For your texts do you mean .doc? Maybe you could transfer them to your PC then to Google Documents and you'll have access to them via GDocs on your phone?
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
5. There are several applications: Google Maps Navigation, Navigon for example. On HTC Desire Z and HD they have included offline maps on the SD card. I don't know for other brands devices.
6. Soundhound is the equivalent. It's free and you can now search for an unimited amount of songs
7. I don't use the radio feature so can't give you much information but I'd be surprised that it doesn't exist. Other people will probably give your more information about that
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1. Yes you can configure Hotmail with Exchange to have push mail. I've only tried it for a short time and received several times the same message so can't tell you if that was a one-time bug or if it is usual. Anyway you can still configure a reception in POP every 5 minutes.
But you'll have the best of Android experience if you use a Gmail account instead. The push works really nice.
2. You can use Google Sync to transfer all your calendar from WM to Android.
3. Sprite Migrate allows the transfer of bookmarks but I don't remember which browser favorites it transfers.
4. For contacts you can use either Google Sync or Sprite Migrate. For your texts do you mean .doc? Maybe you could transfer them to your PC then to Google Documents and you'll have access to them via GDocs on your phone?
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
5. There are several applications: Google Maps Navigation, Navigon for example. On HTC Desire Z and HD they have included offline maps on the SD card. I don't know for other brands devices.
6. Soundhound is the equivalent. It's free and you can now search for an unimited amount of songs
7. I don't use the radio feature so can't give you much information but I'd be surprised that it doesn't exist. Other people will probably give your more information about that
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There's a great radio app called tune.fm. its free and i use it a lot on my tab.. works a treat
olyloh6696 said:
if you want to experience android yourself, try out a ROM for your tp2.
i suggest waiting till after march when the dual cores are released.
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tried, but wasnt great on the tp2, so didnt go intall installing apps and stuff.
Would like to wait, but with t-mobile changing there term from the 1st feb, that would only leave me with 3 as a network with a decent data package
missparker76 said:
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
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Hmmm kind of took that for granted, so word and excel are not avalable then? Or there replacements are poor?
Thanks for the other answers tho, clears up alot.
fil said:
tried, but wasnt great on the tp2, so didnt go intall installing apps and stuff.
Would like to wait, but with t-mobile changing there term from the 1st feb, that would only leave me with 3 as a network with a decent data package
Hmmm kind of took that for granted, so word and excel are not avalable then? Or there replacements are poor?
Thanks for the other answers tho, clears up alot.
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No, you CAN get Microsoft office apps on the tab. its just they are not 'official' microsoft branded but they still work. its just that in WM, you get the official mobile version.
ahh thats ok then,
looks like its DHD time
fil said:
ahh thats ok then,
looks like its DHD time
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Yeh! you could try searching up that new LG Optimus 2X... DUAL CORE , got announced in December. But not sure if the release date is before Feb.
olyloh6696 said:
Yeh! you could try searching up that new LG Optimus 2X... DUAL CORE , got announced in December. But not sure if the release date is before Feb.
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not only am i a windows phone fan boy, im a HTC one too,
seriously tho im really forced, as my contracts up on the 24th jan, and im out of the country on the 29th, so got 4/5 days to sort it, or wait and get the latest dual core job, but unuseable to me as 500mbs dont take long to use up
fil said:
not only am i a windows phone fan boy, im a HTC one too,
seriously tho im really forced, as my contracts up on the 24th jan, and im out of the country on the 29th, so got 4/5 days to sort it, or wait and get the latest dual core job, but unuseable to me as 500mbs dont take long to use up
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Personally, im on a network called GiffGaff. It is the sister network of O2.
I pay £10 a month, and i get
250 UK Minutes
Unlimited UK texts
Unlimited Internet
Unlimited Calls and texts to GiffGaff
It's so good, i signed my whole family up! You might wanna check it out
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No, you CAN get Microsoft office apps on the tab. its just they are not 'official' microsoft branded but they still work. its just that in WM, you get the official mobile version.
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No what I meant is that I've tried both Documents To Go and Quick Office and they are less complete than the Office application in WM.
For example in Excel, it doesn't even display graphs. You only have spreadsheets. It's a real lack for me.
Anyother ways of copying my calander entries from win 6.5 to android, other than google sync as i cant get that to do it at all?
Dont think my active sync was ever setup or used, as it wont let me select anything, as no outlook is used??
I'm in that stage right now where my contract expires 2/20 and I'll probably wait a bit for the Atrix. However, I've been searching for these things in Android:
1. Pocket Dictionary / Japanese Language Input - I'm taking Japanese classes, so I use the Japanese SIP where you can use the stylus to draw the furigana characters, etc.
2. Cash Organizer - Apparently they're not releasing an Android version. Any financial software as good as CO?
3. Pocket Player - Anything even close to this? Random visualizations, skinning, library manager?
4. Outlook Tasks APP & SYNC - I use tasks to document everything, whether in the phone, or in the PC, and then just sync everything together with Outlook. Is there a standard task app that could sync with Outlook in the PC? With the categories?
5. G-Alarm - is there an equivalent? random mazes and math problems for snooze?
And let's not forget Spacetime, the HP48GX Emulator, and Pocket Stars!? Maybe it would just be better to start working on WINE for Android
Hey. i've been looking for an android phone that fits my budget right now, wich btw, it's not very high hahaha. i've been offered this HTC touch pro 2 in a really chep price, new and in it's CDMA version. I know i'ts a bit old but it fits my needs. BUT as i said before, i'm looking for an android phone. surfing around the web i've seen a few videos and sites talking about these "ports" that enabale you to have even Android 2.3 on this cellphone.
so, my question is, and i would really apreciate to be answered with simplle words (yes, i'm kind of noob with these smartphones, in fact this would be my first one), Is this possible? after getting my HTC TP2 will i be able to enjoy at least of android 2.2?
thanks in advance
greetings from venezuela ^^
I apologize for any misspelling
HTC HD2! I have a lot of Android SD Builds (Desire HD, Gingerbread,...).All of them work fine on the HD2.
Febo00 said:
Hey. i've been looking for an android phone that fits my budget right now, wich btw, it's not very high hahaha. i've been offered this HTC touch pro 2 in a really chep price, new and in it's CDMA version. I know i'ts a bit old but it fits my needs. BUT as i said before, i'm looking for an android phone. surfing around the web i've seen a few videos and sites talking about these "ports" that enabale you to have even Android 2.3 on this cellphone.
so, my question is, and i would really apreciate to be answered with simplle words (yes, i'm kind of noob with these smartphones, in fact this would be my first one), Is this possible? after getting my HTC TP2 will i be able to enjoy at least of android 2.2?
thanks in advance
greetings from venezuela ^^
I apologize for any misspelling
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Look around the rhodium forum and there is a sub section dedicated for android development
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fil said:
Anyother ways of copying my calander entries from win 6.5 to android, other than google sync as i cant get that to do it at all?
Dont think my active sync was ever setup or used, as it wont let me select anything, as no outlook is used??
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Not without ActiveSync AFAIK... there might be, but I don't know it, and ActiveSync is free and very easy to set up! Set up Activesync, sync your WinMo phone to Outlook, and then either sync your new Android phone to Outlook OR use Google Calendar Sync to sync Outlook to GMail and then sync the Android phone to GMail's calendar. (Don't do both or you'll get duplicate entries!)
Personally I prefer Outlook's calendar (more feature-complete and can handle recurring events better), but I can't deny that it's much easier having your calendar in the cloud, letting the phone sync with it from anywhere, and being able to log in from any PC to check it even if your phone has run out of battery!
dgaud007 said:
4. Outlook Tasks APP & SYNC - I use tasks to document everything, whether in the phone, or in the PC, and then just sync everything together with Outlook. Is there a standard task app that could sync with Outlook in the PC? With the categories?
Android doesn't have a Tasks (or Notes) function, which is a bit strange seeing as GMail has a Notes applet built in (!), but there's a few apps that add that functionality (some free, some paid-for) and support syncing with Outlook. Have a look on http://www.syncdroid.net/
5. G-Alarm - is there an equivalent? random mazes and math problems for snooze?
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Don't know but that sounds cool, I want one too!
And let's not forget Spacetime, the HP48GX Emulator, and Pocket Stars!? Maybe it would just be better to start working on WINE for Android
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Please do, and port over SCUMMvm and Nethack!
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I have AT&T (ugh) but I am stuck with it. The last phone I had was a Keiser (AT&T tilt.) I really do not need data. All I want is a smartphone that will sync with Outlook either 2003 or 2007. (I have win xp sp3.)
All the companies are now FORCING you to get data. I had my Tilt locked out of data. However, it broke and they want to give me Tilt II which is junk.
I just want a touch keyboard...no slide out.\
I need to sync my calander, contacts...etc.
It seems these phone companies are getting manufactueres to make more and more junk that nobody really needs...if you think about it.
I just don't want to carry a Palm Pilot and Phone at the same time. However, I don't need all the other nonsense that ultimately only serves to make the phones unstable, a complaint I read about every phone I have researched.
I thought of just getting an I Phone since AT&T practically gives them away...hmmm does that not suggest something? But syncing with Outlook appears to be a nightmare.
As far as Android and Google, do YOU want your private information on a server out of your control that the government can access.
Anybody have any ideas? Anything? Even if it means unlocking a phone for AT&T...although...I should take advantage of an upgrade...the question is to what?
Thanks for hearing me out.
Frustrated!
tetrasect said:
I have AT&T (ugh) but I am stuck with it. The last phone I had was a Keiser (AT&T tilt.) I really do not need data. All I want is a smartphone that will sync with Outlook either 2003 or 2007. (I have win xp sp3.)
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I think to sync with Outlook, you could either go with a phone manufacturer that provides a sync software (e.g. Samsung - Kies, HTC - HTC sync, etc) or use an Android app (e.g. CompanionLink, MissingSync, etc).
I found a link to a site that lists several syncing options: Link
I used to have an Apple 3GS and a Macbook and I could never sync to Outlook. I now use an app called Missing Sync by Markspace (not in link I provided) and it works well for me (using an HTC Evo 4G and Windows 7 with Office 2010).
If you need to stick with AT&T, you could see which Android Smartphones they offer (Atrix, Captivate) and focus on the software Motorola or Samsung (Kies) provides to sync or research a few of the apps in the link I provided based on their feature set.
I mentioned the app I use (but it cost $40) and I also heard decent things about Companion link. Maybe someone else can chime in with the software Motorola or Samsung may provide for syncing.
Hi!
i recommended a friend of mine this mobile phone, because his old phones where alway windows mobile devices. But with this device he only has trouble, direct outlook sync wont work because of the live cloud crap. But he dont want so sync his business contacts to microsoft servers.
So is it possible to install Android on this device? I think its almost the same as a Desire Z, so maybe the android version from the Desire Z can be ported to the HTC7 Pro.
Do you know something about this?
thanks for your help!
I would suggest next time that he does some modicum of research before buying.
Had he done, he would have realised that both of the qquestions have been covered before.
I still don't understand why people are so objectionable to synchronisation over the Internet, and I still don't understand why people assume you can only use Windows Live. You can just as easily use Google or Exchange.
Considering Windows Phone is a smartphone OS, designed to be mobile, why are people so insistent on permanently having the thing tethered to a computer? I only ever plug my phone into the computer to do a software update, and I wouldn't if i didn't have to. Everything else syncs wirelessly, either through Google, Windows Live, Exchange, Facebook, Zune Wireless Sync, or when Mango drops LinkedIn. And it does it a damn sight better than Android did, to boot....
neomon said:
Hi!
i recommended a friend of mine this mobile phone, because his old phones where alway windows mobile devices. But with this device he only has trouble, direct outlook sync wont work because of the live cloud crap. But he dont want so sync his business contacts to microsoft servers.
So is it possible to install Android on this device? I think its almost the same as a Desire Z, so maybe the android version from the Desire Z can be ported to the HTC7 Pro.
Do you know something about this?
thanks for your help!
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please consider that it is a MOBILE device -and you didn't have a good connection everywhere. It suxxs me up to wait for many things when I'm i.e. on a travel by train. and teethering is a MUST have -I need for my business a Internet connection -and have to pay for it in a hotel, as I have a HTC 7 pro(fessionel)??? That seems not very professional, more then cutting my posssebiliys -where is the problem to implement it?
There are SO MANY annoying things with WP 7 (and I HAVE a dev-ccount, anduse Mango -absolutely overrated!!) -and sell it next week, glad to use my better working HD2 and WM 6.5
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I have a Mac and I have recently gone from my iPhone 4S to my Samsung Galaxy S3. I really love the phons hardware and battery life, the only two things I am having issue with are syncing my phone with iTunes and with iPhoto.
I tried SyncMate but found it just so incredible underwhelming that I wish I had never spent the money on it. I also have recently downloading The Missing Sync but it seems to be only able to sync via WiFi or Bluetooth oweing to the fact that the Mac can't mount the device as a drive. I don't want to root the device, anyone know of any other software solutions that are Mac compatible?
Everything else goes through the cloud for me.
For music use double twist. You can load your play list and everything from itunes. Can't really help with the photo situation
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I have a Mac and I have recently gone from my iPhone 4S to my Samsung Galaxy S3. I really love the phons hardware and battery life, the only two things I am having issue with are syncing my phone with iTunes and with iPhoto.
I tried SyncMate but found it just so incredible underwhelming that I wish I had never spent the money on it. I also have recently downloading The Missing Sync but it seems to be only able to sync via WiFi or Bluetooth oweing to the fact that the Mac can't mount the device as a drive. I don't want to root the device, anyone know of any other software solutions that are Mac compatible?
Everything else goes through the cloud for me.
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I am really not a fan of Double twist.. I would use iSyncr, it is way less bloated and does the same thing.
There was an article on the internet using Dropbox and some scripting to use iCloud and iTunes syncing. Think it was on cnet.
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Why not use Google Music to sync your tunes to the cloud allowing you to access them on your phone?
For photos, dropbox auto uploads photos.
This way you never need to plug your phone into your computer to sync
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Because like me he probably has all his photos already synced in iphoto and songs in itunes, so adding to his existing libraries without having to do anything extra would be nice. I did however uploaded a big chunk of my music to google music for access anywhere which is coming in handy especially on my runs during lunch.
I was in the same situation as the op. Coming from iphone4s to sgs3. Doubetwist made the transition super easy for me. Of course, you have to install airsync along with it as the current doubletwist software does not support usb transfer via MTP.