I need your help,my phone only lasts about 4-5 hrs a day without charging.
Please help me.
Write the settings oh use to help me out. Thank you.
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Task killer apps suck. At least on Android 2.2.
I recently tired Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and saw a huge increase in my battery life. I think the beta version works better on the EVO.
Also, if your going to ask for help... let us know what Rom, Kernal, Set-Up you have going on right now.
I'd say try out Autorun Killer and Auto Killer (by same dev, but i only use Autorun Killer), and get UltimateJuice
I'm unrooted.
I need to find a good root team I an get a full good root and Nandroid with it.
I have ultimate juice and juice defender.
But I don't know really how to use it and I want to use it to its full extent.
Settings please?
I'm using battery booster and automatic task killer. Auto run is good? My evo needs it badly.
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Here's from my experience. YMMV
Best Task Killer - Your ROM. When I first got the phone and wasn't rooted, I installed a task killer to close all the stupid sprint apps, nascar, friendstream, faceyspace crap. Once rooted, I picked ROMs that eliminated the crap I don't use (like Sense) but retained things I do use (like some Sense elements). I use System Panel mostly for monitoring and the usage plots, but the ability to kill an app is useful for specific things that I'm simply done with. Examples, the XDA app, Dolphin or other browsers, I change live wallpapers periodically so once switching, I kill the old one. With the stock 2.1 rom, I would see ram as low as 30mb free. With a custom 2.2 I have never seen free ram drop below 80mb.
Best Battery - You. Don't use bluetooth? Turn off the radio. Out of the house for the day and no longer using your wifi? Turn it off. Set a static wallpaper. Change the brightness setting to as dim as possible but still asthetically pleasing. Not in a 4G area? Turn it off. Don't load your home pages up with active widgets. Turn off haptic feedback. Set your screen timeout to a low value. There are lots of other things to do if battery life is your primary concern. I like live wallpaper, I like bells and whistles. So, I bought 3 extra charging cables so I have additional places to charge the phone when need be. A good bluetooth headset with audio capabilities means I can leave my phone plugged in someplace and get my calls there and my text messages read to me.
Give the "good practices" route a try before relying software to accomplish your goals.
Root with unrEVOked Forever and install Fresh 3.3.0.1. It has fantastic battery life without extra apps. Ultimate Juice has always slowed my phone to a crawl and killed my battery, so I avoid it.
I had Fresh 3.2.0.0, and will be moving to 3.3.x I found KiNg's BFS#6 to be great on battery life with Fresh 3.2.x Can't wait to see what 3.3.x has to offer.
DeathBySnuggles said:
Here's from my experience. YMMV
Best Task Killer - Your ROM. When I first got the phone and wasn't rooted, I installed a task killer to close all the stupid sprint apps, nascar, friendstream, faceyspace crap. Once rooted, I picked ROMs that eliminated the crap I don't use (like Sense) but retained things I do use (like some Sense elements). I use System Panel mostly for monitoring and the usage plots, but the ability to kill an app is useful for specific things that I'm simply done with. Examples, the XDA app, Dolphin or other browsers, I change live wallpapers periodically so once switching, I kill the old one. With the stock 2.1 rom, I would see ram as low as 30mb free. With a custom 2.2 I have never seen free ram drop below 80mb.
Best Battery - You. Don't use bluetooth? Turn off the radio. Out of the house for the day and no longer using your wifi? Turn it off. Set a static wallpaper. Change the brightness setting to as dim as possible but still asthetically pleasing. Not in a 4G area? Turn it off. Don't load your home pages up with active widgets. Turn off haptic feedback. Set your screen timeout to a low value. There are lots of other things to do if battery life is your primary concern. I like live wallpaper, I like bells and whistles. So, I bought 3 extra charging cables so I have additional places to charge the phone when need be. A good bluetooth headset with audio capabilities means I can leave my phone plugged in someplace and get my calls there and my text messages read to me.
Give the "good practices" route a try before relying software to accomplish your goals.
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A good ROM and proper use will mean plenty of juice. If something is draining it that quickly without heavy use, install Spare Parts and check battery usage for "partial wake use" and see what is keeping your phone awake. Barring malfunctioning apps, the main things that suck battery are screen, radios, and maybe games since they run the processor at full speed for extended periods.
Keep unused radios off. Don't use widgets that constantly pull info from the web. Keep screen brightness at like halfway or the lowest you feel is acceptable.
Other than that, I just have a charger at my desk at work and one by my bedside. That way I can charge at night and top off when I'm at my desk for extended periods. This way I always have a pretty full battery if something comes up and I have to be out and about for a while. Worst case scenario if I have no charger and plan on being out for a while, I will use my power widget (Switchpro) to turn off 2g/3g data. I still can get calls and texts but the phone won't be trying to maintain a data connection and I can extend the battery life.
TheBiles said:
Root with unrEVOked Forever and install Fresh 3.3.0.1. It has fantastic battery life without extra apps. Ultimate Juice has always slowed my phone to a crawl and killed my battery, so I avoid it.
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Whats fresh 3.3.0.1?
Is that a Rom? I need Nandroid.
Does Unrevoked come with Nandroid? Especially Unrevoked forever,because I know Unrevoked3 takes away root once you get another OTA.
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Caspers25 said:
Whats fresh 3.3.0.1?
Is that a Rom? I need Nandroid.
Does Unrevoked come with Nandroid? Especially Unrevoked forever,because I know Unrevoked3 takes away root once you get another OTA.
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Fresh Evo is a ROM. UnrEVOked Forever gives you NAND unlock (aka full root) on ANY official update. Go check out the thread in the development section.
Yeah,but does Nand unlock take away my Nandroid or give it to me. Because I cant get OTAs with a custom Rom.
Does the new evo update cancel the Unrevoked forever 3.21 release?
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Caspers25 said:
Yeah,but does Nand unlock take away my Nandroid or give it to me. Because I cant get OTAs with a custom Rom.
Does the new evo update cancel the Unrevoked forever 3.21 release?
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1) NAND unlock gives you full access to read/write to system while booted into the OS and flash custom ROMs and recoveries. It is required for the newest custom ROMs.
2) Nandroid is the name for the backup system in recovery. So I guess it "gives it to you."
3) Custom ROMs are based on the OTAs, so there is no need for the official updates.
4) Nothing "cancels" unrEVOked Forever. It works on all currently released official ROMs to give you one click full root.
caspers??
dude, are you trolling? hmmmm?
Caspers, I say this trying to be as helpful as possible. As I consider myself to also be recently new to rooting and customizing a smart phone such as the Evo, I offer you this advice.
Find the stickies on these forums. Read them. Reread them. If something confuses you, use the search bar at the top of this site. If you still dont find a satisfactory answer, search on google.
IF for some reason you STILL cant find an answer, ask yourself what you're confused about. Is it simply terminology? If so, thats understandable, being new to rooting there is a lot of terminology thrown about very casually that can be confusing to someone unfamiliar with what is commonly done on this site. Google them, the answers are there, not to mention there are quite a few very noob friendly guides about adb, rooting, etc that will introduce the terminology for you. If on the other hand you are confused about the actual process of HOW to do something, try searching again - but this time with different key words.
If somehow you you still cant find a good answer, make a post. Beware however, by making such a post, unless you are specific about what you are asking for and make it obvious in your post that you have made a good faith effort to find the answer yourself, you will be flamed. Possibly viciously. Best of luck to you.
Thanks guy. I appreciate all the advice you guys gave me.
I'll Try and do all the things you said.
Thanks. Well I just wanna know how I can back things up and turn back on my s-on so I an unvoid my warranty?
Plus how can I gt Nandroid?
Can I still root my phone from Unrevoked?one click root still? And how do I gt Unrevoked forever? Is t hard? I really need wireless tethering. Help me please. Plus I need to know what's a good battery app?
Sent from my HTC EVO
There are plenty of tutorials within the forum, try searching for them.
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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
rodimus_prime said:
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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osendott said:
Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
rodimus_prime said:
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
rodimus_prime said:
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
See what I did there... You know, with the title.
Any who, this is my second android phone and I'm so happy with my inspire, I actually am not that inspired to flash any roms. I mean this in no disrespect to the developers here, as they are doing awesome work, I'm just very content. Sure I'm curious to flash, but I don't feel the need to at all. Htc has done such a great job with sense and the phone is just so smooth! It's pretty damn fast out of the box. I love the email app and Internet. The browser is fast and the entire sense GUI is quite intuitive. I guess with my captivate, I was never quite happy so I needed to flash often at a glimmer of hope of a decent device.
Anyone else feel the same?
I will eventually flash. I will...but I'm in no rush, at all.
exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
jc2470 said:
exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
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I don't side load apps. I got tethering to work with apn settings. Don't really see a need for OCing. It's cool, but don't see the need. There doesn't seem to really be much on android that pushes the CPU. One of my arguments for not getting the dual core atrix. If the screen was big like a tablet, maybe. There is just a lack of resource intense apps on android.... At least to rationalize the loss in battery life. The screen on the inspire slides from screen to screen as fast as my finger glides. The browser scrolls fast as well. I do appreciate some of the optimizations that devs have put into their roms. The roms look great...I just can't believe I'm happy with stock. I was really gearing up for a flash fest.
Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
Ditto.... I have no reason to flash....everything works the way I want it to, and excellently at that.....
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
Ya I don't have a desire to flash a custom rom either.
I felt I had to when using the Captivate since the stock rom was so bad. But I feel the Inspire's ROM is great just the way it is.
I used to jailbreak my iPhones for years, but finally got bored with doing it.
mudknot2005 said:
Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
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Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
Corriewf said:
Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
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I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
alwayslearning said:
After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
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Hmm....intriguing
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
alwayslearning said:
I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
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I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
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My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
Corriewf said:
I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
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I think the battery out of the box on this phone is the worse I have ever seen. I have a Desire (not HD) that I bought unlocked and it works on AT&T (got one for my wife as well) it has a BIGGER battery in it with a smaller screen that battery last forever.
In our beloved inspire (which I think is a great phone) for whatever reason they have put this very small battery in it and I could not get 6 hours out of it with my usage from the stock ROM.
On the custom ROM I am using I think battery use is still an issue but at least I can get a whole day out of it. It has improved and I know the Dev's will make it even better.
edit: the kernel and radio you use will also play an important role in battery life
Yeah, I was like that up until I finished the video tutorial on Gold Cards jumping from the captivate as well, that thing was flashing like...every three days. It was absurd. It was awesome, but going from a build where I liked everything but the GPS didn't work was super depressing. Gambling is fun and all, but not when some of your phone's core functionality is at stake :'( well I guess that's just a risk with flashing in general... but I just feel like with the captivate it was a necessity... and a risk. Here on the other hand, you wipe, wipe, and away!
P.S.
Does anyone who used to own a captivate still get a reaction to Galaxy S/Captivate news? I got sort of excited when I was reading engadget and I saw the Captivate 2.2 update and the Galaxy S Gingerbread leak. Then I remembered I have the ability to flash CM7.
Im trying to find a reason besides battery to flash..the phone is quick, Sense is really good and replaces a lot the widgets I already had. Im tempted just for the sake of doing it more than for a need
I never flash.... I was stock on my N1 and I will remain so on my Inspire.
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I'll more than likely root and flash Revolution in the next couple weeks...but I'm still lost to all the jargon in the Development section haha
I'm going to wait for the best one-click and any kinks to be worked out before I pull the trigger though
It took going through the app drawer with my 115 apps plus the AT&T stuff lagging all the way for me to think, "This phone needs Cyanogen." Haven't looked back, although I do want to flash one of the Sense Roms floating around. Sense was pretty amazing.
Sent from my CM7 Inspire
mudknot2005 said:
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
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RacerX10 said:
My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
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Hmm, hearing this I'd starting to convince me to flash.....decisions, decisions.....
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
I would really love to flash but coming from the Cappy, my first android phone. Rooting this phone seems to be really confusing. The one click looks promising but there are some problems with it, that I hope Buddy fixes soon. The Attn1 method lost me. I have never been able to use adb on my computer for some reason. I have all the drivers installed and the androidsdk but for some reason I can never figure out the how to start to connect to my phone in the command window. I always get an error.
So when the Inspire 4G first came out, I joined from the dark side (iPhone)... and rooted for the first time. I tried InspiredHD and Android Revolution, but this was back when they both had the tinny audio, so I ended up going back to the ATT Stock Rooted ROM because I wanted my audio back.
Now several weeks later I see a bunch of ROMs available, several of which are Android Gingerbread ROMs. Which are the best? Is there a guide that compares their features that are updates on the daily basis that seems to be how often they're updated?
What do you recommend? I'd like one which is Gingerbread and still keeps the HTC sense, I do like my sense. I'd also like one that had the original audio quality, not the tinny audio that came with the preliminary ROMs.
Any advice\opinions would be appreciated.
Core Droid Version 4 Nuff said.
Has everything you want and much more, just back up, wipe and try it you do not like it you can always do a restore.
moe3754 said:
Core Droid Version 4 Nuff said.
Has everything you want and much more, just back up, wipe and try it you do not like it you can always do a restore.
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a) It's Gingerbread?
b) No audio issues?
c) What's the best way to backup\restore so i don't have to reposition and create all my app arrangement and folders?
d) It's HTC Sense, right?
Thanks!
desire hd coredroid v4 for inspire 4g VS stock rom.
Personally I know that the stock rom to date has best battery life with setcpu.
I am using coredroid and it is very nice, but of course, it has terrible battery drain. 5-10% drain every 45 min.
It would be nice to have a custom kernel or some fix because it is a great rom, the looks and layout is nice.
It does have a fuzzy speaker sound .
I would suggest staying stock for a week or two, until the devs work out the bugs.
There is always a fix for most everything.
lojak29 said:
Personally I know that the stock rom to date has best battery life with setcpu.
I am using coredroid and it is very nice, but of course, it has terrible battery drain. 5-10% drain every 45 min.
It would be nice to have a custom kernel or some fix because it is a great rom, the looks and layout is nice.
It does have a fuzzy speaker sound .
I would suggest staying stock for a week or two, until the devs work out the bugs.
There is always a fix for most everything.
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Thanks for the tips, yeah I was afraid of the battery drain. I was afraid it might be an issue. The battery is already bad with Stock ROM, I can't imagine it being any worse... 10% every 45 mins, yikes, that's a battery in 8 hours... lol.
I thought the speaker audio issue was resolved. Is this still not the case in 4.0?
bella92108 said:
a) It's Gingerbread?
b) No audio issues?
c) What's the best way to backup\restore so i don't have to reposition and create all my app arrangement and folders?
d) It's HTC Sense, right?
Thanks!
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A Yes
B No
C rom manager Back up current rom
D Yes
As for application's I always do a clean install that way I know everything is right, not like it is all that hard to do.
My battery is lasting a complete day with this rom.
As for sound issues, people think that this is a large home speaker, it is a phone and the speaker works just fine. I listen to Pandora for three to four hours and it is fine for me.
moe3754 said:
As for application's I always do a clean install that way I know everything is right, not like it is all that hard to do.
My battery is lasting a complete day with this rom.
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Why would you do a clean install if you don't have to? Seems annoying to have to re-download and re-position apps every time a ROM is flashed.
A complete day for most is less than 12 hours... and if a phone lasts 12 hours sitting unused, it's really not ideal. Considering most people have a hard time getting a full day out of the Inspire 4G even without Mod's, I really don't want to change to anything that'll give me less battery than I already have, hehe.
I wish you luck my friend but this thread belongs in general, not development.
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bella92108 said:
Why would you do a clean install if you don't have to? Seems annoying to have to re-download and re-position apps every time a ROM is flashed.
A complete day for most is less than 12 hours... and if a phone lasts 12 hours sitting unused, it's really not ideal. Considering most people have a hard time getting a full day out of the Inspire 4G even without Mod's, I really don't want to change to anything that'll give me less battery than I already have, hehe.
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Because the Dev's say to do a clean wipe if you read the post from them and did I not say Pandora for three to four hours, not exactly unused, plus calls that I receive??? Plus do what you want you asked I responded as for anything else I could care less, it is working fine for me.
moe3754 said:
Because the Dev's say to do a clean wipe if you read the post from them and did I not say Pandora for three to four hours, not exactly unused, plus calls that I receive??? Plus do what you want you asked I responded as for anything else I could care less, it is working fine for me.
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Calm down...
Speaker Issue: You can say it's a small speaker all you want, but it's still a quality speaker, and the digitized sounding issue was a major issue to me when the first ROMs came out. I don't expect surround sound and bass, but the stock ROM doesn't sound at all digitized\tinny.
Sorry I missed the Pandora comment. Not sure how you stream 3-4 hours a day without a recharge, considering that time of streaming would beat what the phone's battery and radio are capable of doing, but hey, more power to ya.
And for the record, the expression is "I couldn't care less" ... People who say "I could care less" are just repeating improper usage of the english language rather than thinking about what they're saying.
lrs421 said:
I wish you luck my friend but this thread belongs in general, not development.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
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Incorrect. This is a development question. "General" is designed for things like "What speeds are you getting..." kinda thing. Anything ROM related goes in Dev.
I wish you luck my friend but this thread belongs in general, not development.
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Incorrect. This is a development question. "General" is designed for things like "What speeds are you getting..." kinda thing. Anything ROM related goes in Dev.
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Wrong. any question goes in the Q&A subforum.
Have you done the battery reset procedure to ensure that your battery is being used to its full extent after installing the new ROM? If not, that may be your issue.
baronmax said:
Have you done the battery reset procedure to ensure that your battery is being used to its full extent after installing the new ROM? If not, that may be your issue.
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Battery reset procedure?!?!?!
Is that like those pieces of tin foil that used to "protect" me from my phone's radiation back in the 90's? LOL
Do explain, or provide link please....
Try something new
If you are really looking for AUDIO, give MIUI a shot. I have tried every ROM out there for the phone and I always end up with either Android Revolution 4 or MIUI. I like sense a lot, thus the AR4. But I often flash over to MIUI because the customizations are great, the themes are fun to play with, and the audio is louder than stock. Battery life is good, not quite stock but not as poor as CM7.
I would also try CM7. Fastest ROM out there, but ASOP reminds my of my old droid x and I can't do that anymore. Neither MIUI nor CM7 are sense and you must install an alternate home launcher if you want scrollable widgets.
My final $.02- try them all. With back ups from ROM manager, you can have several on your sd card!
bella92108 said:
Battery reset procedure?!?!?!
Is that like those pieces of tin foil that used to "protect" me from my phone's radiation back in the 90's? LOL
Do explain, or provide link please....
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Sorry, guess I should have done that to begin with, here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8993227&postcount=4
Rchdmix v3.4 works good for lots of people
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Any gingerbread rom right now is going to have battery drain. It is a leaked version from htc, and the source hasn't been released, so there isn't and custom kernel support for it. Modified stock is good, but honestly the battery life on a modified stock isn't going to be nearly as good as a rom based on 1.8X built by Sergio or Mike. Depending on what your doing you on the phone the drain is anywhere from 256-350ish ma, while in standby it stays around 4-6ma on say Android Revolution v3.1 or Coredroid v3.2. In call audio after flashing the sound fix is not going to be stock but it is going to be very close. There will be a sound boost on the outside speaker, so it will be easier to hear it ring. Make sure when you flash the sound fix after flashing a rom or a radio that you wipe the cache and devilk cache.
If ginger bread is what your looking for I would wait, if customization, performance and battery life are what your looking for flash AR v3.1 or Coredroid v3.2
I am not going to tell you how long the battery lasts when I use it cause how much I use my phone may be quite a bit different from how you use your phone, so to say that it lasts so many hour when I do this or that is trivial. But it is certainly longer then stock.
As to what section this should be posted in, it should be general since it's a question, and we have no Q&A section. Development is mainly for ROMS and Fixes, and Themes in apps are mainly for themes, apps, splash screens and boot animations.
Keep in mind you can give all the roms a whirl, as long as you make a nandroid back up with cwm you can flash any rom you like, and if you don't like it then use your nandroid backup to return to exactaly how your phone is right now.
I see some people commenting on how bad battery drain is. Is it really that bad for you? Did you have the captivate prior to this phone? My battery last me all day and into the next day with wifi on. I text a good bit and surf the web. My captivate could barely last till I got off work, this phone I can go to work next day with it on same charge and charge during the day
baronmax said:
Sorry, guess I should have done that to begin with, here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8993227&postcount=4
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Thanks, I'll give this process a whirl.
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
f308gt4 said:
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Let's start with the basics, please search before posting. The advantages of rooting and disadvantages are well documented in numerous threads. It sounds like to me your phone is what you want/need it to be so why change it? If you are explicitly telling me you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and tweaking the Inspire then I'm telling you its in your best interest not root.
Simply put, every custom ROM on here has its issues. No ROM is perfect, certain things work while others don't and its on you to figure out what you can or cannot live with. The only way to do that is by testing ROMs which brings me back to your statement that you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and all that stuff..if you don't want to spend time doing this, rooting is not your journey.
Battery life is subjective, overall yes, most rooters see an increase in battery life, how much is subjective. I get 28 hours on one charge while others get 6. The difference? The user and what they do with the phone. My opinion for you is that don't root, you sound content with everything the inspire is.
Devil's advocate though, your inspire could be soo much more.
if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
if you want simple, do not root. It is not an easier path to walk on. It has its bumps and glitches. Sometimes you have a bad flash or download and have to redo it, or youll forget to back up something and now your sms messages are gone. If you arent ready to dig deeper into the phone and learn and also make it do more than stay as it is, no shame in that. Hes right, if you arent SURE you need to root than you shouldnt because the gains wont be noticed. I think most of us have had an almost brick experience at some point in time, be mentally prepared lol
once i had my phone run good all night, once i got to work it just died. was a bad flash and it didnt show its ugly head till the next day so i had to wait till i got home to fix it properly. lol gave me twitches not having my phone lol
f308gt4 said:
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
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While I agree with the posts made here already that suggest rooting may not be for you, there are a couple significant advantages which you may want to consider.
Probably the first biggest advantage from my point of view is to remove the 'spyware' (Carrier IQ) present on most factory ROMs. That's HUGE for me. I have enough government intrusion into my life, I don't need any more. Another element is that - at least on my ROM (Virtuous Unity or Affinity) that they have done an excellent job of blocking ad intrusions.
There are also some applications which require root access, though most of them are system utilities (like Titanium Backup) which you wouldn't be using if you don't intend to experiment with different ROMs.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a path to go back to the OEM (factory) ROM, however you will need to be cautious with how you back up and restore the data you need. However it's something to consider if you felt like you wanted to kick the tires while still being able to go back to stock.
As with anything else in life, there are pros and cons. At this point most ROMs are fairly stable for the Inspire, so you probably won't be at a disadvantage, but if the one thing you need on the one ROM you like is the one thing that doesn't work and it's the one thing you can't live without, then don't do it. Read the documentation for each ROM and you'll know what to do.
I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
marvin02 said:
I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!
Pirateghost said:
if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
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Agreed here. Rooting requires learning more in depth capabilities about your phone. If you are content with the status quo, why complicate?
f308gt4 said:
Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!
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No change in ROM. Battery usually has better than 50% at night when she goes to bed. She unplugs at 5 AM and usually it's back on the charger around 10 PM. Before it was at about 30% most nights.
I also believe that it uses less background data.
Root that ***** n throw a couple ROMs on there to play with. Ever since I've roted my phone a while ago I can't stop playing with new ROMs as they cone out.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought that thisbphone never had carrier iq
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Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
I used the Ace Hack Kit, with Ubuntu, which worked perfectly as expected.
I have not installed any ROM's, as I think I will just try to remove any bloatware, etc to see if the phone battery life increases.
Any suggestions as to what to remove (I am trying a search as we speak)?
Thanks!
f308gt4 said:
Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
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Generally, I'd suggest removing anything that's carrier-specific. Those apps tend to be better for them than they are for you. To do so, I'd recommend a couple utilities that will help you in your experimentation.
1) Titanium Backup. Good for removing bloatware, when you decide what it is you don't need or want.
2) ROM Manager / Clockwork. Great for downloading ROMs and managing backups from the Android interface.
Part of what might be draining your batter is Carrier IQ, but that's not something easily dug out. You'd do better to just install a ROM that's had it expertly removed. I'd suggest either Virtuous Unity or Virtuous Affinity.
The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
Tx Redneck said:
The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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Better safe than sorry, I suppose.
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Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
f308gt4 said:
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
f308gt4 said:
Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
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just go on craigs list and find a local repair shop. the same thign happened to me, $100 and she's brand new again
IHTFP12 said:
Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
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No, the best feature is the fact you get full control of the device you purchased, anything else is secondary.
Root if for no other reason than to install CWM and keep up to date nandroid backups of your oem rom. It's always nice to have a quick solution in case something bad ever happens.
Plus, a lot of cool apps require root access.
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I first apologize, I don't have much free time to search and I'm sure this has been addressed before. I also apologize for the length of this post.
My phone should be running faster. I experience force closes on htc sense quite frequently. My messages take almost 20-30 seconds to send, making it especially frustrating when I swype a wrong word that completely changes the context of a text and I have to send a correction text but can't before I get one back, further slowing my phone.
There are a bunch of bloatware apps that I rarely or never use, such as qik, wifi calling, facebook, etc; running in the background which I would love to disable or remove but don't have permissions to do so.
If it were possible to get a version of htc sense or similar that's stable, I'd love that.
Anyway. I know much of what I want to do requires that I root my phone, but this is >the< place where the geniuses reside, and I was hoping that I could get some advice and some direction. Is it possible to free up memory without rooting? if not, is there a guide written for this specific phone?
Or, is there another phone out there which has a touch pad and physical qwerty, an amazing camera and the other bonuses this phone came with?
Thank you in advance
Giftig
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If it's not too clear in the op, please be advised that I am a total nub to phone hardware and software. I have no idea how to root or customize beyond what is found in settings. I'm not completely retarded though, I've got computer skills. Just apprehensive. Phones are expensive.
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GiftigDegen said:
I first apologize, I don't have much free time to search and I'm sure this has been addressed before. I also apologize for the length of this post.
My phone should be running faster. I experience force closes on htc sense quite frequently. My messages take almost 20-30 seconds to send, making it especially frustrating when I swype a wrong word that completely changes the context of a text and I have to send a correction text but can't before I get one back, further slowing my phone.
There are a bunch of bloatware apps that I rarely or never use, such as qik, wifi calling, facebook, etc; running in the background which I would love to disable or remove but don't have permissions to do so.
If it were possible to get a version of htc sense or similar that's stable, I'd love that.
Anyway. I know much of what I want to do requires that I root my phone, but this is >the< place where the geniuses reside, and I was hoping that I could get some advice and some direction. Is it possible to free up memory without rooting? if not, is there a guide written for this specific phone?
Or, is there another phone out there which has a touch pad and physical qwerty, an amazing camera and the other bonuses this phone came with?
Thank you in advance
Giftig
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S-Off, unlock your phone, then flash Miktouch 0.7 ROM. It is debloated and tweaked, but still based on the latest stock ROM (1.63.531.2) so everything works like it is supposed to work, still has the amazing camera, wifi, bluetooth. And it is fast and very battery efficient. Instructions for S-Off and unlocking are readily available in these forums, it is a relatively easy task.
GiftigDegen said:
I first apologize, I don't have much free time to search and I'm sure this has been addressed before. I also apologize for the length of this post.
My phone should be running faster. I experience force closes on htc sense quite frequently. My messages take almost 20-30 seconds to send, making it especially frustrating when I swype a wrong word that completely changes the context of a text and I have to send a correction text but can't before I get one back, further slowing my phone.
There are a bunch of bloatware apps that I rarely or never use, such as qik, wifi calling, facebook, etc; running in the background which I would love to disable or remove but don't have permissions to do so.
If it were possible to get a version of htc sense or similar that's stable, I'd love that.
Anyway. I know much of what I want to do requires that I root my phone, but this is >the< place where the geniuses reside, and I was hoping that I could get some advice and some direction. Is it possible to free up memory without rooting? if not, is there a guide written for this specific phone?
Or, is there another phone out there which has a touch pad and physical qwerty, an amazing camera and the other bonuses this phone came with?
Thank you in advance
Giftig
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...are you rooted?
Sent from Spaceball One.
The last two paragraphs seem to indicate that you are not rooted. The steps you can take without root and the willingness to flash new ROMs are quite limited. Mainly stuff like dumping all apps that run in the background and stuff like that.
New ROMs will open performance options that unrooted stock couldn't approach.
MikTouch 0.7 will be a good start for you. It allows a decent OC with a kernel flash (1.5gHz gives a healthy boost and is nice and safe).
The best advice I can give is read, read, read. Start with the MikTouch or BulletProof threads.
I used to be a die hard Sense fan. I have been running CM9 for the past 8 or so months and rarely go back now...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything about s-off or miktouch. There are so many forums here I don't even know where to begin looking.
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read THIS
when finished
read THIS
there are also many other great roms:
SEE HERE many of the rom choices are in post three -
make sure to thank the developers of the roms you choose, and for weekends mirror
page, and instructions oh how to root. if you find yourself stuck do some research
then ask in the appropriate thread... all information is well laid out in this forum