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overclocking after s off, rooted.

Hi all, I've been looking and had no success, I've soffd my phone, rooted and installed a custom rom but set CPU is being a *****, can anyone. , ANYONE, point me in the right direction to get this sorted please?
Oh and my recovery is pink and in double vision.
Help.
Cheers.

Scroll down about a page or two. You will find your answers.....
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stanny2k said:
Scroll down about a page or two. You will find your answers.....
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Dude I'm not blind, I'm just not finding a difinitive answer and with all due respect, that doesn't help.

dladz said:
Dude I'm not blind, I'm just not finding a difinitive answer and with all due respect, that doesn't help.
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I agree with you..theres like 5 different answers for every one question. All people seem to be saying is "search" rather then being helpful anymore. Its a shame you can't get help in the Q&A section..
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I tried a few different ways before and after s-off, still not actually going past stock speeds at all. I think its a matter of having a modded kernel.
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Thank you to both you, i appreciate what you both said, and it seems that I feel the same way, i imagine that we're not alone (this is how communities start, and of which xda WAS based. now it's full of ppl who would prefer to pass off a sarky comment than give you the answer to what eludes you)
It's a piss take and if the search function worked properly then i would use the ****er,end of, story be told the development thread is a mis interpreted thread of ppl trying to get the same thing but failing and hurting others unnecessarily is what happens a lot of the time, we're here to help each other boys' n girls not hinder, there are people out there who would kill for some of the knowledge that we possess, so without a sarcastic tongue, try to pass it on, and do it with a smile, because if i see another american flag with a prick on the end of it saying something which i would normally slap someone for then i'm going to board a plane and get my friend to find ppl'z addresses lol i'm joking, but seriously, the flames, the ****, the bollocks which comes with some of the answers, i could do without.
Can someone please help? does anyone give a ****? how can we overclock our ****ing phones.
PArdon the french but i'm pissed off at the lack of support around here, and the lack of updating threads when everyone clearly has S - OFF.

dladz said:
Thank you to both you, i appreciate what you both said, and it seems that I feel the same way, i imagine that we're not alone (this is how communities start, and of which xda WAS based. now it's full of ppl who would prefer to pass off a sarky comment than give you the answer to what eludes you)
It's a piss take and if the search function worked properly then i would use the ****er,end of, story be told the development thread is a mis interpreted thread of ppl trying to get the same thing but failing and hurting others unnecessarily is what happens a lot of the time, we're here to help each other boys' n girls not hinder, there are people out there who would kill for some of the knowledge that we possess, so without a sarcastic tongue, try to pass it on, and do it with a smile, because if i see another american flag with a prick on the end of it saying something which i would normally slap someone for then i'm going to board a plane and get my friend to find ppl'z addresses lol i'm joking, but seriously, the flames, the ****, the bollocks which comes with some of the answers, i could do without.
Can someone please help? does anyone give a ****? how can we overclock our ****ing phones.
PArdon the french but i'm pissed off at the lack of support around here, and the lack of updating threads when everyone clearly has S - OFF.
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Sorry for going off topic but amen. As for me coming from the evo side of things its night and day from there to here. Hope we can turn things around here.
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U need a kernel that supports overclocking (ex: unity v2).
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I was having the same issues. Most of the roms are based on a kernel that doesn't o/c past 1.5 and is now controlled by
o/cdaemon. Like yall I like to play with setcpu and run it myself. All roms except for ones using stock kerenel use the new daemon. There are currently 2 roms that use a unity kernel that will oc to 1.8. They also use the daemon.....but if u download setcpu the daemon will turn itself off and let you use setcpu!!!! I flashed a cold different roms and the daemon wasn't working correctly (CPU wouldn't go past 1128). Either way ppl have different opinions about overclocking. Seems most devs now find it unnecessary since we have dual core now and better....everything. but for me....when running navigation, shooting emails every 5 minutes, uploading 100 work related pics, tracking work orders in a ****ty corporate made app, 50+ phone calls, burning up 1gb of data a day just for work, more mms' than a 16 yr. old sends in a year..........and checking the forums every chance in between. Basically I I NEED THIS PHONE TO HAUL ASS FOR 10 HOURS A DAY NON STOP TILL I WALK IN THE DOOR TO MY HOUSE
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Many of.the custom ROMs which allow OC use a new method outside of SetCPU. I believe its Daemon. You go into a file and set your clock values similar to how it was done in SetCPU. This is supposed to be much more fluid.
Check the the Virtuous Unity Rom. There is a whole paragraph and link about how to overclocked. Currently custom kernals break the camera flash. Still takes pics, but no flash. Should be addressed in the near future.
Hope that helped. I'm no expert so I recommend reading the linked post in the OC roms.
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You either use the oc daemon to overclock or use setcpu. As soon as setcpu is used, the daemon is disabled folks...
<--- using Unity v2 with SetCPU at 1.5Ghz with multiple profiles.

Is oc daemon something that we can use without a custom ROM? I am S-oFF, rooted, running stock rom with ADW EX. I have setCPU working, but only until a reboot of the phone. I dont really want to flash ROMs yet...
Matt

i am also waiting for oc daemon update.zip - would be great if rmk could create a independent update and there was another guy who started writing a gui for the "new" oc daemon.

So the way that I have been able to overclock so far was by using the temp root plus overclock method, even though i just S-Offed and im like you, I still do not want to flash any other roms for a while. What i do is just run the 1.8 ghz overclocked files a few time and then wala it works until i reboot and then i have to do it again. One thing that I have noticed is that when i over clock and run it hard, it burns up and then restarts, so i try not to run too many apps while over clocked at 1.8 hope this helps.

Mr.franco said:
So the way that I have been able to overclock so far was by using the temp root plus overclock method, even though i just S-Offed and im like you, I still do not want to flash any other roms for a while. What i do is just run the 1.8 ghz overclocked files a few time and then wala it works until i reboot and then i have to do it again. One thing that I have noticed is that when i over clock and run it hard, it burns up and then restarts, so i try not to run too many apps while over clocked at 1.8 hope this helps.
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I am the same way. We really need a better way to do this with our stock rom. I wish people weren't pushing the roms as much as they are and did some work for those of us that don't want to flash roms yet.
Matt

mrg02d said:
I am the same way. We really need a better way to do this with our stock rom. I wish people weren't pushing the roms as much as they are and did some work for those of us that don't want to flash roms yet.
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Most of us are happy with the devs focussing on improving their respective custom roms. If you are that interested in holding onto the stock rom, it sounds like you've got a project to take on.
If you guys don't mind me asking, why are you guys hanging on so dearly to the stock rom?
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moto211 said:
Most of us are happy with the devs focussing on improving their respective custom roms. If you are that interested in holding onto the stock rom, it sounds like you've got a project to take on.
If you guys don't mind me asking, why are you guys hanging on so dearly to the stock rom?
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For me, the reasons are strong.
1-Most the ROMs seem to be very buggy. I am a "noob" and dont feel like spending more time troubleshooting my phone and asking for help than I spend using it. I also have little clue as to why something FC or my phone freezes.
2-I havent seen ANYTHING that a ROM can do better than my "stock" ROM. I say "stock" because I have frozen Sense (much of it) with TB as well as a lot of random bloatware. I have also added ADW EX (paid) and my phone is extremely snappy.
3-The chance of FUBARing my phone is GREAT. I see plenty of experienced people talking of bricked devices and screwed up settings. Seems like a mine field out there! Seems best to leave this to the real Pros, for now, until better methods come up.
Ive yet to see a ROM even touch the we browser. It may be fast at loading, but its stiff as a board. Id be interested in a ROM that was just a thinned out version of the stock ROM (not gutted, like others are, removing everything) that had reliable OC and a much better browser, all with increased battery life. This all assumes the ROM didnt require me to do anything aside from flash it. No troubleshooting, no coming on here BEGGING for my noob question be answered in a dignified manner.
God forbid my SD card or something failed while trying to flash a ROM...
Thats asking for a lot, I know! Thats why I prefer to upgrade my phone in stages. If I add something and I get errors, I know why. I can remove it and then gripe about it from my WORKING phone. ;-)
Whew!
Matt

mrg02d said:
For me, the reasons are strong.
1-Most the ROMs seem to be very buggy. I am a "noob" and dont feel like spending more time troubleshooting my phone and asking for help than I spend using it. I also have little clue as to why something FC or my phone freezes.
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The buggyness that you speak of is largely due to the current state of our third party kernels. You could flash a ROM and flash the stock kernel to avoid many of the issues that you see people having.
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3-The chance of FUBARing my phone is GREAT. I see plenty of experienced people talking of bricked devices and screwed up settings. Seems like a mine field out there! Seems best to leave this to the real Pros, for now, until better methods come up.
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How many do you consider "plenty"? I've only seen one report of a true brick and that was because the user was blindly executing commands in fastboot that he didn't know about. He was practically trying to brick his device. There have been a few other reports of hardware failure that probably would have happened even if those users had not flashed ROMs. Really, its almost impossible to truly brick your device. To brick, you would need a bad flash of the bootloader (hboot) or radio. Nobody bundles hboots or radios in their ROMs. The worst that could happen from a bad ROM flash is a soft brick (fixable). I understand wanting to be cautious but I think it is quite an exaggeration to make it sound like flashing a ROM is a risky gamble or that "plenty" of "experienced" people have bricked.
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Ive yet to see a ROM even touch the we browser. It may be fast at loading, but its stiff as a board. Id be interested in a ROM that was just a thinned out version of the stock ROM (not gutted, like others are, removing everything) that had reliable OC and a much better browser, all with increased battery life. This all assumes the ROM didnt require me to do anything aside from flash it. No troubleshooting, no coming on here BEGGING for my noob question be answered in a dignified manner.
God forbid my SD card or something failed while trying to flash a ROM...
Thats asking for a lot, I know! Thats why I prefer to upgrade my phone in stages. If I add something and I get errors, I know why. I can remove it and then gripe about it from my WORKING phone. ;-)
Whew!
Matt
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I think you are asking for a lot. You're essentially asking for everything and willing to do nothing, except flash. Not troubleshooting issues or reporting bugs, just flash. I can understand not wanting to spend a lot time fiddling, I really can. But remember, stock ROMs have bugs too. Have fun with your stock ROM and its slow development cycle.
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Man one big fight. Anywho get a person who has the o/c daemon to strip it out and put it on a filesharing site. Then download and install it. Have to be rooted. If you prefer setcpu when. You set a frequency tick the set on boot check box. Also would not recommend anything over 1.6 GHz bc you could burn out your proccesor. Hope this helps anyone.
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Bobguy21 said:
Man one big fight.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to pick a fight. I just thought it odd that someone would take issue with devs focussing on "buggy ROMs" instead polishing the stock one. I thought we root so we don't have focus on stock? Not to mention the fact that the current the crop of ROMs would never get any better if it weren't for the developers efforts on those ROMs. I just find it funny when people say "I wish more time/effort were spend on [insert ROM name here]" If you feel that not enough dev efforts are being devoted to something it might be time to learn to dev and do it yourself. Otherwise, accept the efforts that they have chosen to gift us with.
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[Q] Beginner's questions

Yikes, I feel terrible for asking questions at such a basic level, but despite my tries, I haven't found an answer on the forums. If I missed anything obvious, please do point it out!
I've got a fairly new Samsung Infuse from AT&T, and I've been trying my hand at customization for a fair bit - graphic design is, in the end, the one thing I can say I'm actually good at. But between launchers, widgets and icon packs, there's only so much you can do, and the device does feel rather sluggish. At 109 apps, opening the app drawer takes up to 20 seconds, which is far from ideal.
I've been reading into custom ROMs and their possibilities, but I'm not entirely sure I understand their functionality and how to install one, so I'm hesitant to use one. Could anyone point me to some more information regarding this?
For the record; the device is rooted, and I'd like to think I know my way around a PC.

Here ya go bro.....
Maybe this will help...read carefully..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
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verticae said:
Yikes, I feel terrible for asking questions at such a basic level, but despite my tries, I haven't found an answer on the forums. If I missed anything obvious, please do point it out!
I've got a fairly new Samsung Infuse from AT&T, and I've been trying my hand at customization for a fair bit - graphic design is, in the end, the one thing I can say I'm actually good at. But between launchers, widgets and icon packs, there's only so much you can do, and the device does feel rather sluggish. At 109 apps, opening the app drawer takes up to 20 seconds, which is far from ideal.
I've been reading into custom ROMs and their possibilities, but I'm not entirely sure I understand their functionality and how to install one, so I'm hesitant to use one. Could anyone point me to some more information regarding this?
For the record; the device is rooted, and I'd like to think I know my way around a PC.
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Welcome. Know that you have a decent phone with a gorgeous display.
Pick a thread and start reading.
Look around the themes and custom designs.
Read my post in the q,a section to get an idea if you wanted to were interested in flashing

20 seconds sounds ridiculous ._.
custom ROM's are fast, much faster than the stock one thanks to their being optimized. whilst i'm running on MIUI right now cause i got bored, i personally recommend the latest build of CM7 with the thunderbolt tweaks, definitely the fastest setup right now.
since you're already rooted, that makes things easier. you can simply hop onto the market, download ROM manager, load it up and flash CWM and you'll be ready to flash a different rom. just download the zip, copy it onto your phones internal memory, reboot, and follow the threads instructions (typically just wipe data/cache and then select the zip you want to install).

Thank you all for your posts!
Your links have cleared up a lot of things, and I'm currently getting ready to flash the latest CM7. I'll look into the thunderbolt tweaks as well, it looks rather interesting. Once again, thank you.

In my experience the stock rom is pretty snappy. I tried infused a long time ago with its voodoo file system and it was noticeably slower. Now I'm runnning miui and its damn quick. I just hope I can get this garbled font problem resolved.
Install miui and you'll understand why you would want to root. Alot of these roms are pretty close to stock aand overhyped but miui is a total rework and full of awesome.
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Is it really worth it?

First of all, I would like to thank the devs for all their hard work and dedication. But I really would like some honest insight into this whole custom rom thing.
After reading just about every post on every thread in the development section, I have noticed that a lot of people have problems with the roms (some minor, some major) in one fashion or another. It seems that there is no rom that technically works 100% perfect. But this is not a complaint on my end.
What I want to know is, do all of you just love tinkering with your phone that much that you will reflash new roms every week, (or less) look for workarounds and fixes, and put up with glitches?
It was fun for me for about a week, but quickly got old. I was looking for that magical rom that would change my life, but never happened. Regardless of whether I was using custom or stock, I use my phone in exactly the same way all day. So I had to ask myself if the constant flashing and fixing was worth it just to find a perfect solution that doesn't exist to begin with.
I mean, don't people just want to use their phones instead of constantly trying new things? Or is it just a way of life now, and you don't care how much time you spend. Is flashing new roms and fixing things the purpose of having your phone? I thought it was to make phone calls and everything else we do day to day.
Maybe you could enlighten me as to why you are a flashoholic, and not a regular phone user.
And one other thing. If you are into tinkering so much, why not set aside a spare hard drive or partition on your computer and install some linux distros? The customization possibilties are literally endless with linux on the desktop, and can provide years of entertainment and challenges. It just seems odd that a bunch of pc users would use their (linux based) phones as a means to experiment, but not their desktop/laptop pc's. And yes, I realize some of you might use linux.
Sorry for the length, but just would like some insight into these questions.

i do it for that fresh look and new ideas some people have with there roms that i wish was standard
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Its for customization. Freedom. Choice. And feel. Nuff said.
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And also, honestly it takes 30 seconds to flash a rom. Not really wasting mich time there.
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Stock isn't too perfect either though...

MaliciousIntent69 said:
And also, honestly it takes 30 seconds to flash a rom. Not really wasting mich time there.
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backup old rom . old data . old apps. wipe data. wipe cache . 30seconds to flash that rom . srtup phone restore all the apps . restore all the old data if you saved.
i flash a new rom almost every 3 days but it takes about an hour of time each time sometimes even 2 if you messed up ^_^
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wolfen69 said:
First of all, I would like to thank the devs for all their hard work and dedication. But I really would like some honest insight into this whole custom rom thing.
After reading just about every post on every thread in the development section, I have noticed that a lot of people have problems with the roms (some minor, some major) in one fashion or another. It seems that there is no rom that technically works 100% perfect. But this is not a complaint on my end.
What I want to know is, do all of you just love tinkering with your phone that much that you will reflash new roms every week, (or less) look for workarounds and fixes, and put up with glitches?
It was fun for me for about a week, but quickly got old. I was looking for that magical rom that would change my life, but never happened. Regardless of whether I was using custom or stock, I use my phone in exactly the same way all day. So I had to ask myself if the constant flashing and fixing was worth it just to find a perfect solution that doesn't exist to begin with.
I mean, don't people just want to use their phones instead of constantly trying new things? Or is it just a way of life now, and you don't care how much time you spend. Is flashing new roms and fixing things the purpose of having your phone? I thought it was to make phone calls and everything else we do day to day.
Maybe you could enlighten me as to why you are a flashoholic, and not a regular phone user.
And one other thing. If you are into tinkering so much, why not set aside a spare hard drive or partition on your computer and install some linux distros? The customization possibilties are literally endless with linux on the desktop, and can provide years of entertainment and challenges. It just seems odd that a bunch of pc users would use their (linux based) phones as a means to experiment, but not their desktop/laptop pc's. And yes, I realize some of you might use linux.
Sorry for the length, but just would like some insight into these questions.
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This is the easiest way to explain this without going into a bunch of detail. Customizing my phone is one of my hobbies. It is kind of the same thing as to when you buy a house or a car and want to fix it up or change things on it. When you change things on it, it makes it yours and nobody has one exactly the same.
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Wolfen - We all have a choice to accept things as they are, or to expect things to be a certain way and be disillusioned when they are not, or to take direct action through our own works to effect change.
Most people who've been here a while are here because they like to tinker with their phones. Those who provide custom roms are not paid for their work. Some accept donations, but there is no requirement for anyone to pay up front. If you do not understand or appreciate what people do here you are free to choose another path.
I do hope you stick around though, or at least check in every once and a while. I think there are some good things coming. For example, entropy512 just released a kernel that allows HDMI to work. The Collective, bigfau, qkstr and others continue to release stock-based roms that focus on improving stability, performance, features, and customizability.

Custom roms will never be 100% bug free. This is due to the nature of the beast. Only you can make the choice on if it is worth it. Custom roms are not for everyone. To be honest its not for most people. The ones that will use custom roms are those that enjoy troubleshooting and helping to find and fix bugs.
Now as per the nature of the site you will most likely get a ton of people that say it is very worth it. While they are not wrong, they are also not right. It is all up to you.
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Terrible.

After a week with this phone my general consensus is that it works terribly.
First, let me say the hardware is great and the industrial design, the look, is top notch and the only reason I still have the phone.
HTC has really made this phone bad and AT&T hasn't helped by not letting us put our own rom on it to fix the major issues.
Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
These are the only major issues with this device, and they are major because it affects me multiple times a day.
If this phone didn't have great hardware and look awesome I would have returned it the same day.
The fact that these issues can all be solved by flashing another rom gives me hope that this will someday be a useable device.
Just needed to rant.
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We didn't need that rant

Well. I feel better after I wrote it
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I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.

greyhulk said:
I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.
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Do you know if we would use cm7 or any other custom rom that we would be able to multitask properly? That is bothering me as well. It keeps reloading everything. If the hardware wasnt so nice, it would have gone back already.

I would imagine so. I think Sense is prematurely killing apps to save memory.
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seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.

ptesmoke said:
seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.
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I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.

Bigjim1488 said:
We didn't need that rant
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we really didnt. Seeing that there is a shortage of the same rants on the forum right now.

greyhulk said:
I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.
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I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.

sdotkdot said:
I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.
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You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.

greyhulk said:
You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.
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I do understand that there are plenty of non-development threads given that this is in "general". Nobody is making you keep the phone and wait for a fix either. But you are right, it is a vital function of the phone and you would expect it to perform as it's supposed to. Every phone I've owned has had some kind of flaw or quirk and the developers here do an awesome job fixing them as well as making the phone better in almost every aspect fairly quickly.
*Edit - So after thinking about it, I realized that I haven't really used the multi-tasking feature all that much and decided to put it through some tests. Apparently it does suck lol so I apologize ...using home to exit current app then going back to a previously used app via the launcher does work a little better, but there is definitely some work to be done

Rants are good. Gets the word out on issues that hopefully get resolved.

At least be accurate with your rant. From a little googling the Tmobile G1 was release in 2008 and Gmail push was released in 2009, not 2007.

I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....

I went to a store to try this device tonight. The hardware and screen are simply awesome. Sense even looks nice and the UI was lightning quick. It is really disappointing that basic things like WiFi-3G handoff and multitasking are not working right...things I've taken for granted for awhile on CyanogenMod. I agree with others, I was hoping to not have to mess with custom ROMs at all, by now it should just work great out of the box. Now I have to monitor the software situation here and compare to the SGSIII when it's released.

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I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....
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Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
-> gmail works fine for me. i get notifications as soon as i get an email sent.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
->have you tried using the newer version of stock, it has wifi fixes, ive had this issue one time, but not again.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
-> never had any multitasking problem but people complain about it a lot.

on the other side....hehe

Multitasking is the only system/device problem that everyone has. I have zero wifi issues and zero push issues. Not everyone got stuck with a buggy One X. Just sayin.
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A few Questions Regarding Custom Roms and Status of phone

I understand these questions may have been asked before, and I cannot post in the Android development section due to not having many posts. I have been fiddling with phones long enough to understand the basic concepts of how to root your phone, install and flash custom ROMs, kernels, etc. I'm not quite familiar with what all of the terms mean in laymens terms, but I get the jist fo it all in a simple manner of understanding what to do. I currently own a galaxy s3 and have installed a few roms on my rooted phone, synergy, paranoidandroid, cleanROM, and twiz Jellybean. CleanROM definitely caught my eyes as it gave me a quad score of over 6000 at a point, which impressed me quite a bit. I love paranandroids overall look and phablet ui and functioning. I recently tried flashing twiz jellybean, and thought I understand it is still in it's beta state, I was wondering if the problem of receiving a *modified* phone status is one on only my part, or if anyone else was experiencing the issue as well? I've since reverted back to stock, as the ROM does not seem stable enough as of right now for me to contine using it, although it is a great rom, and I expect to be using it in the future when most of the bugs are tweaked out( ie Vibrate on touch functions in texting don't work even when turned on, slight blue screen flickering when changing volume, Self reboot during idle state, etc)

It is normal to see "Modified" under device status, we have an unlocked bootloader and root access! Haha feels good to say that. I am sure that "modified" status will be removed once you lock the bootloader and flash back to stock. Was there another question? You only asked one unless you needed a better grasp of what roms and kernels are.
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I guess I would just like to have a better grasp as to what flashing actually means and does, and I'm also curious as to what a kernel actually does for a phone in laymens terms. I understand pretty much the basicality of everything and how to root, unbrick, flash custom ROMs, but I guess I'm just more curious as to the more indepth understanding of it all and what each... thing actually does?

Ahh, not a problem. Here are two articles that detail info about Android relating to your post:
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
2) http://androidforums.com/sony-erics...om-kernel-cwm-firmware-flashing-adb-root.html
How do these work as a starting point?

Thanks, I had read that page once before, but forgotten about it. For those of us who don't do any programming or coding, it's helpful information.
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Wow. these are the perfect pieces of info I had in mind, thank you so much!