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What is with this? I 've gone through several HTC phones on the EVO and everytime I lose my wifi. Anyone can help?
When do you lose the Wi-Fi?
I use the wi-fi in my house and it will maintain a constant signal.
UNLESS
It goes to sleep mode, then it turns off the wi-fi as well.
Whenever I bring it out of sleep, it always has to re-connect.
I don't know if there is some registry setting you can set to keep wi-fi turned on.
I think the risk is that it will drain the battery much quicker though.
I'm using the MAPL build 2.60 beta for a Dash 3G and the battery life is incredible.
You can make it stay on by going to: Comm Manager>Settings>WLAN Settings>Power Mode and unchecking the "Auto turn off..." box. And yes, it does suck the battery like a vampire and makes the phone HOT! You can also adjust how long it will stay on for after LCD OFF.
Wifi question
Hi, before i drive myself mad, I am convinced that my phone uses gprs for data, not wifi. And my bills seem to agree with me.
When I use things like MyPhone, either connected to my PC or connected to my wifi at home, it seems to appear on my bill as a data charge, which would indicate that it is using the network??
Am I right, wrong or stupid? Any help greatly appreciated.
So my phone just started showing this behavior like a day or two ago. It's doing it right now. Both my Wifi and 4G icons appear in the notification bar. The 4G icon isn't showing activity (the download and upload arrows are dimmed), BUT if I go to my "Phone Info" app, and go to Phone Information it shows:
GSM service: In service
GPRS service: Connected
Network Type: HSDPA
Before whenever I was on Wifi only the Wifi icon would show up, and Phone Info would show GPRS Service as : Disconnected, i.e. normal behavior. Now it appears there is a conflict somewhere and the 4G network is showing as connected even when wifi is on.
Now, I did make some changes recently:
1) Temp-rooted and pm disabled a bunch of bloatware - this was like 4 or 5 days ago and I didn't have the problem at all so I'm not sure if it's related.
2) I unchecked Wireless Settings > Mobile Networks > "Enable always on mobile data" - Thought it might save battery when in sleep mode.
I think the problem started after #2. I've since checked that option back on, restarted, airplane mode, battery pull etc., but it's still exhibiting the same behavior. I've never seen this happen on any of my past Android devices (a lot). If I go to the Quick Settings it shoes Mobile Network is OFF but it IS checked. It's really confusing. When you turn Wifi on, Mobile network should disconnect, but according to phone Info, mine is on and I've been getting "network issue, try again" in the Market, and "Network Communication issues" in the Speedtest app so clearly something is being affected.
This has been my ONLY problem with my Sensation thus far, and the fact that it JUST started doing this makes me wonder what I could have done to affect it.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Every once in awhile the 4G icon WILL disappear leaving only Wifi on, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected, but eventually the 4G/2G icon comes back and Phone info shows GPRS service: Connected, so it keeps trying/turning itself on even though my Wifi is connected. WTF!
If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.
I believe this is somewhat normal...
I have voice only plan and disabled data through the *#*#INFO#*#* menus. The only way I can get data is through Wifi, which I always have enabled, regardless when I go to About Phone -> Network, I see mobile network type HSDPA.
It seems like voice is going through the 3G/4G but not any data. Not sure why you do get the 4G popping up, I sure don't.
Sdobron said:
If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.
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Thanks! I tracked down the second package name for "My Account" (one is for My Account, one is for My device), disabled and rebooted. So far so good; Wifi is connected, no 4G icon, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected as it should. I had already disabled one package but not the other. I can live w/o the My account feature for a bit and I'll keep an eye out to see if the problem returns.
bigmase521 said:
Thanks! I tracked down the second package name for "My Account" (one is for My Account, one is for My device), disabled and rebooted. So far so good; Wifi is connected, no 4G icon, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected as it should. I had already disabled one package but not the other. I can live w/o the My account feature for a bit and I'll keep an eye out to see if the problem returns.
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You phone will always connect to data whn using Tmobile apps such as my account app. Its because they need network data, not web data, to get their info like your usage, and billing. If you manually shut of data and turn wifi on and try to open the my account app, it will give you error.
Just because you turn Wifi on, it doesnt make the data shut off. It just connects to WIFI because its a stronger signal. It will still access the 4G data for netork required information. You can manually shut off mobile data and then turn on wifi if you want.
^This is true, I'm manually switching 4G off when connected to WiFi.
dubie76 said:
You phone will always connect to data whn using Tmobile apps such as my account app. Its because they need network data, not web data, to get their info like your usage, and billing. If you manually shut of data and turn wifi on and try to open the my account app, it will give you error.
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I realize this, however I was never trying to use the T-mobile apps.
dubie76 said:
Just because you turn Wifi on, it doesnt make the data shut off. It just connects to WIFI because its a stronger signal. It will still access the 4G data for netork required information. You can manually shut off mobile data and then turn on wifi if you want.
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Of course it does. What would be the point in having BOTH Wifi and 4g/3g/EDGE data on at the same time, all the time? That would be a HUGE drain on your battery if it were constantly using both radios and connected to/searching for both networks. When you turn Wifi on, the mobile data radio gets turned off. When you de-activate Wifi, mobile data turns back on. This is why you get much better battery life on Wifi because the 4g/3g radio gets turned off. Plus, both can't be connected at the same time or else there would be routing problems i.e., it would get confused as to which connection to use.
This is exactly what happened to my phone in that that both WERE on at the same time and it was causing no traffic to get in/out and I couldn't figure out why. Disabling the two t-mobile My Account packages solved it so it seems like
one was trying to connect in the background and couldn't but then froze the radio state. I'm not gonna re-enable the app to confirm but IIRC when you're on Wifi and fire up the My Account app, it either prompts you to turn off wifi, or it just disables wifi temporarily and fires up the mobile radio in the background, and re-enables when you're done.
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If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.
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Yep. If you keep the T-Mobile my account app running it will do that cause It needs the 4G/Data connection.
xamadeix said:
Yep. If you keep the T-Mobile my account app running it will do that cause It needs the 4G/Data connection.
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Right, but what I'm saying is that I wasn't running the app. It does run as a service though so I'm wondering if it was trying to connect on it's own in the background, though I'm not sure why. I haven't seen this behavior on any other devices including my Sensation before I disabled one of the My Account apps, but I'm almost positive at this point it was the culprit. Could be because I had only disabled one of them and not both. After I disabled the second, the problem went away.
Do you have WiFi sleep disabled?
If not, phone may revert to regular data until you start communicating and wake up your WiFi.
Just a thought.
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PaulGiz said:
Do you have WiFi sleep disabled?
If not, phone may revert to regular data until you start communicating and wake up your WiFi.
Just a thought.
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Nope, sleep policy is set to "Never" and wifi sticks fine. Still happened even with screen on so wifi was def. awake. I fixed it by disabling the T-Mo My Account apps so I'm cool but maybe it can help someone else if they have the same problem. It's really weird, never seen it happen before. I wish I took a video of it before I disabled the apps. Thanks guys.
bigmase521 said:
Right, but what I'm saying is that I wasn't running the app. It does run as a service though so I'm wondering if it was trying to connect on it's own in the background, though I'm not sure why. I haven't seen this behavior on any other devices including my Sensation before I disabled one of the My Account apps, but I'm almost positive at this point it was the culprit. Could be because I had only disabled one of them and not both. After I disabled the second, the problem went away.
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It's poor coding in the app. Nothing you're doing wrong.
Hello all,
I am new user of a brand new mozart windows phone 7, and i am almost very happy about it, Apart from one thing which i am trying to sort out however knowone at HTC seems to be able to assist me.
I have wifi turned on 24/7 however my phone still user data usage via GPRS for soem reason... if there any way of making the mozart use wifi and the primary connection.
Any help would be appreciated
I don't know, but maybe location services might still need to use your data connection. You can turn your data connection off though - settings > mobile network > data connection "off"
Casey
WiFi turns off in standby mode. Reconnects when you wake it up. So checking email will use data. Only way to avoid it is to turn off data in settings and not have push notifications
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for HD7 you need to ON your 3G and Data Connection but you can choose whether you want to roam or don't roam.
finite1 said:
Hello all,
I am new user of a brand new mozart windows phone 7, and i am almost very happy about it, Apart from one thing which i am trying to sort out however knowone at HTC seems to be able to assist me.
I have wifi turned on 24/7 however my phone still user data usage via GPRS for soem reason... if there any way of making the mozart use wifi and the primary connection.
Any help would be appreciated
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You try to disable your 3g and data roaming when there's a wifi.
I don't really know if this is peculiar to Glorious Overload (which I've been running for a week or so) or is maybe a kernel problem on the Sidekick 4G.
I want my wifi to stay connected when the screen turns off. I've tried setting the wifi sleep policy to both "never" and "never when plugged in" with limited success. Seems to sometimes stay on and sometimes not. When it gets into the "sometimes not" state, the only cure I have found is rebooting the phone. Other than that, I haven't yet caught a pattern to it.
Anyone have any info or suggestions?
(For those wondering, I want wifi to stay on so that I can use the quite nice "AutoAir" app to turn off my 3G/4G data connection [to save battery] when I'm connected over wifi. And I want that because I'm trying to use "Groove IP" to do all my calls as VoIP, which is somewhat better over wifi when it's available.)
(For those who don't know how to set the wifi sleep policy, try Settings > Wireless and network > Wi-Fi settings. Then hit the menu button and select "Advanced".)
Well, I checked my advanced settings, and mines was on never. I know it's woring because I download a lot of crap, esp via torrent clients. And once I have wifi on, it doesn't use 4g anymore. When I turn it off, 4g comes back. Mind you, I don't use and switcher apps or anything of that matter.
Quite odd that you're having a problem, are you stock GO2?
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Yes, stock GO2.
For me, the behavior is intermittent. Sometimes seems to stay on, but sometimes seems to "forget".
There seem to be a zillion "fix your wifi" or "keep your wifi on" apps in the market, so I am trying a few of those now. (Slow going due to the intermittent nature of the problem I'm trying to solve.)
I noticed at the end of your post that u want to turn off your data and keep your wifi on to save battery, but with our device having wifi on uses more power than data. Mainly because our data and our cell signal are on the same radio, so by turning off data you really are doing nothing, because your cell service is still using the radio, but now that you've turned on wifi you now have the cell/data radio on and your wifi radio on. Really the fact that our cell and data are in the same radio is great because it really cuts down on battery use. So there you go. Learn something new everyday. please thanks this post if you didn't know this or if it helped you.
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You're right ... I didn't know that.
The other reason I want to keep the wifi on (apart from my faulty reasoning about battery life) is that VoIP is generally better over wifi. It's easy to get that arranged for outgoing calls, but the phone is generally napping for incoming calls.
I may have to rethink my whole strategy for this.
My m8 at some times usually during the night will disconnect my wifi and use my mobile data, which it should not do because in the power settings I have the sleep mode set to off and I have all power saver crap removed with viperone 1.8 I"am just on a limited data plan that I need all of my data for and wasting my mobile data sucks especially when I have wifi to use and pay for home internet that it should be using. Does anyone know why it could be doing this and a fix ? My computer never disconnects from the wifi and I use it many of the same times that the phone disconnects from my wifi, so that leads me to believe its somewhere in the phone and not my wifi. Also I have had a couple other m8's do the exact same thing. I would like to find a fix other than turning my mobile data off. And I do use a lot of data as I have a large number of email addresses added to my phone and have my k9 set to check for new emails every 10 minutes because I rely on it for personal and business use. Anyone have any idea ?
Here is my settings showing sleep mode off and power saving mode off also.
In "wifi advanced settings" do you have the "auto switch to mobile data when wifi is weak" checked off?
qskile said:
In "wifi advanced settings" do you have the "auto switch to mobile data when wifi is weak" checked off?
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No its unchecked but under wifi optimization I have minimize battery usage when wifi is on ? Not sure if that could have an effect but shouldnt because mobile data would use more battery than wifi and that would have the opposite effect to turn wifi off for mobile data which would use more battery power.
Roefastford said:
No its unchecked but under wifi optimization I have minimize battery usage when wifi is on ? Not sure if that could have an effect but shouldnt because mobile data would use more battery than wifi and that would have the opposite effect to turn wifi off for mobile data which would use more battery power.
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I thought I remembered under venom tweaks somewhere that is has the regular PowerSave mode which has the option to disable data when the screen is off for an exteneded period of time. MAybe its turned on???? Not running the ROM right now otherwise I could look myself. Check it out:good:
mademan420 said:
I thought I remembered under venom tweaks somewhere that is has the regular PowerSave mode which has the option to disable data when the screen is off for an exteneded period of time. MAybe its turned on???? Not running the ROM right now otherwise I could look myself. Check it out:good:
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I always set it up to remove the power save mode garbage in the venom aroma installer so 100% that is not the issue.
Roefastford said:
My m8 at some times usually during the night will disconnect my wifi and use my mobile data, which it should not do because in the power settings I have the sleep mode set to off and I have all power saver crap removed with viperone 1.8 I"am just on a limited data plan that I need all of my data for and wasting my mobile data sucks especially when I have wifi to use and pay for home internet that it should be using. Does anyone know why it could be doing this and a fix ? My computer never disconnects from the wifi and I use it many of the same times that the phone disconnects from my wifi, so that leads me to believe its somewhere in the phone and not my wifi. Also I have had a couple other m8's do the exact same thing. I would like to find a fix other than turning my mobile data off. And I do use a lot of data as I have a large number of email addresses added to my phone and have my k9 set to check for new emails every 10 minutes because I rely on it for personal and business use. Anyone have any idea ?
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Try Wi-Fi > Advanced > Uncheck "Wi-Fi optimization"
Had the same problem and this fixed it. Haven't noticed any difference in battery life checked vs. unchecked.
bigblueshock said:
Try Wi-Fi > Advanced > Uncheck "Wi-Fi optimization"
Had the same problem and this fixed it. Haven't noticed any difference in battery life checked vs. unchecked.
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That was the only thing I had not tried so early last night I tried unchecking it and so far so good I think you may be right on that, thanks.
bigblueshock said:
Try Wi-Fi > Advanced > Uncheck "Wi-Fi optimization"
Had the same problem and this fixed it. Haven't noticed any difference in battery life checked vs. unchecked.
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Mine is still doing it, so I changed the wifi frequency band from automatic to 5 ghz and rebooted and it connected but some apps could not access data so I changed it to 2.4 ghz only and rebooted it worked ok but its doing it again this time I had to toggle airplane mode to get the wifi back on. I have to toggle airplane mode quite often actually and usually it shows change of sim detected. And some times my mobile data will disconnect and its a ***** to get working again. Maybe I will try going to a verizon corporate store and getting a new nano sim card for it. A verizon dealer could not get a new nano sim to activate before and they ended up getting my old nano sim reactivated which I thought once a sim has been deactivated that they cant reactivate it but apparently they can. I really dont know what else to try other than a new sim card. Anyone ?
Any chance you could temporarily try a different wireless router? Some of these new phones are finicky with some wireless routers... Could be a miscommunication between the phone and router somehow.
Don't really have an explanation, one of my old HTC devices had issues connecting to a specific wireless router, where apple products did not have the problem, and vice versa with a different router.
bigblueshock said:
Any chance you could temporarily try a different wireless router? Some of these new phones are finicky with some wireless routers... Could be a miscommunication between the phone and router somehow.
Don't really have an explanation, one of my old HTC devices had issues connecting to a specific wireless router, where apple products did not have the problem, and vice versa with a different router.
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Having been the case with at least 3 m8's I honestly do not think its the router because It happened with my old moden and router and also with my motorola surfboard SBG6580 modem / wireless router combination that I switched to a couple months ago. And it will also do the same on my girlfriends modem and wireless router. I think there is something in the m8 that is the problem and one other of the m8's was an at&t version. I"am not 100% sure but it may have all been while using viperone, as there really is not much choices for daily driver custom roms especially since elegancia closed its doors. Dont get me wrong tranquil one m8 is not bad and cleanrom is ok but they are no way as easy to customize as viperone is. Years ago I use to like cleanrom for its DE which was barebones the way I like it, good clean and fast. I just dont trust any of the other roms to be bug free enough to be a daily driver. I have just had too many issues in the past with cm dont get me started on them lol, omg was nothing but fix after fix that you had to do nothing like being a Guinea pig lol.
Wi-Fi not connect after phone is woken from sleep mode
Both my wife and I was having the issue with Wi-Fi. I tried everything ,turning off optimization, setting for 2.4ghz,and every other thing listed. Nothing helped until I flashed the firmware from the digitalhigh thread, took 30 sec and fixed Wi-Fi for good on my wife's m8 and mine. I lost nothing in the process except that very annoying Wi-Fi issue. I was then able to set any options like, Wi-Fi optimization and Auto band detect, everything working great!
Here is link to that firmware...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95832962473400175
Just downloaded and save to SD card root and rename to "0P6BIMG.zip" and boot to hoot to install.