I tried flashing Ingenetics 318 original ROM, and I got this funky error about my device not being authorized, contact my support people.
Well, you guys are my only support people. I reflashed with a known working, so this isn't urgent, but if this happened to me it'll happen again. It might be nice to give something to the unsuspecting new flasher to actually find when they search, not just the forum, the whole freaking internet. (Really, I looked hard.)
Anyone know what this batch file is, what it does? Can I use the ROM without digging thru each bin file to find out that's not what I'm looking for? I'm hoping someone can give me an answer b4 I spend way too much OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) time trying to figure it out on my own. Don't get me wrong, I like puzzles, but I don't know what I'm in for.
Thanks.
The original dumped rom won't work as security wasn't removed from it. Someone made a base rom from it, or there are several other cooked roms or kitchens available that use it.
Janis said:
I tried flashing Ingenetics 318 original ROM, and I got this funky error about my device not being authorized, contact my support people.
Well, you guys are my only support people. I reflashed with a known working, so this isn't urgent, but if this happened to me it'll happen again. It might be nice to give something to the unsuspecting new flasher to actually find when they search, not just the forum, the whole freaking internet. (Really, I looked hard.)
Anyone know what this batch file is, what it does? Can I use the ROM without digging thru each bin file to find out that's not what I'm looking for? I'm hoping someone can give me an answer b4 I spend way too much OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) time trying to figure it out on my own. Don't get me wrong, I like puzzles, but I don't know what I'm in for.
Thanks.
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The batch file is just a security measure. You wont find much info because that mysterious ingenetics thread was removed. Im using my own stripped ingenetics rom, from memory I removed the devauthsig.dat folder as well as any references to dogfood. I dont have access to the specifics of what i removed exactly at this point in time. I might edit this post later with the specifics of what I removed when I get a sec to check.
been lurking here for a while and own both a G1 and Magic on Att in the states. want to say thanks to everyone for all the hard work.
just wondering if there is or could be a thread that is just composed of links for Rom's. it would be a simple/dedicated way to see what is out, updated and works with your phone. no posts or comments, just author and their work.
with so many Rom's, Recovery's, Kernel's and updates, its hard to keep track of what works with 32A/32B and what is the latest out. I know the threads list what model they are for (32A/32B) but still some work with both and only list one.
if this exists, please let me know. thanks again.
techboydino said:
been lurking here for a while and own both a G1 and Magic on Att in the states. want to say thanks to everyone for all the hard work.
just wondering if there is or could be a thread that is just composed of links for Rom's. it would be a simple/dedicated way to see what is out, updated and works with your phone. no posts or comments, just author and their work.
with so many Rom's, Recovery's, Kernel's and updates, its hard to keep track of what works with 32A/32B and what is the latest out. I know the threads list what model they are for (32A/32B) but still some work with both and only list one.
if this exists, please let me know. thanks again.
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If you come here often enough it should be pretty easy to spot what's new and what's not.
And it is pretty nice for most authors to include the date updated in the subject line now.
As a noob, I'd have to say something like this would be useful if anyone has the time to make it. I'm sure over the next couple of weeks I'll be familiar enough to have a clue about what's available here but it's very slow going sifting through pages upon pages of comments. I've also noticed every Hero ROM has someone saying "this is absolutely the fastest Hero ROM here, thanks!" It would be nice to read something more definite about which ROM really is considered the quickest, which has the fewest bugs, etc. I'm sure that might take a lot of work, though. Either way, many thanks to everyone here for developing these items and letting us play with them.
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As a noob, I'd have to say something like this would be useful if anyone has the time to make it. I'm sure over the next couple of weeks I'll be familiar enough to have a clue about what's available here but it's very slow going sifting through pages upon pages of comments. I've also noticed every Hero ROM has someone saying "this is absolutely the fastest Hero ROM here, thanks!" It would be nice to read something more definite about which ROM really is considered the quickest, which has the fewest bugs, etc. I'm sure that might take a lot of work, though. Either way, many thanks to everyone here for developing these items and letting us play with them.
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+1 lol
I think it'll be too much work to test it that way since you would need to wipe, flash, and test it for a substantial amount of time to find out how buggy/fast a rom is. And if multiple people do it, it will be hard to compare the results. The rom will probably be updated before the first test is even complete making the result somewhat pointless.
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+1 lol
I think it'll be too much work to test it that way since you would need to wipe, flash, and test it for a substantial amount of time to find out how buggy/fast a rom is. And if multiple people do it, it will be hard to compare the results. The rom will probably be updated before the first test is even complete making the result somewhat pointless.
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Not only that.. The most fast ROM nowadays (in my opinion) is the one with less features and with more issues to solve (I wonder why ) ...
i would like to see this
32A
.....Hero Roms
.....Stock Roms
.....Ported G1 Roms
32b
.....Hero Roms
.....Stock Roms
.....Ported G1 Roms
Prehaps thats just me and my OCD
so i just loaded froyo 2.2 and the A853_Telus_Upgrade_SHOLS_U2_03.11.0_USASHLSMR2TLSB1B2B506D.0R_Service1FF.sbf for the boot load, everythin works, but i have no signal. help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Tonka, no offense intended, but why do we need four new threads from you, all pretty much relating to the same issue?
furthermore, if you had read the guide posted with the ROM, you would've known to back up your radio files BEFORE flashing...
after flashing and restoring them, if it's still not working, there are posts in the ROM's thread that include links to the radio files to various popular carriers, almost all of which work.
I got my radio files from someone on the forum here, you can too.
btw, RTFM. honestly.
im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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sure, here's a great link for you to get started with...
http://www.google.com
ur an asshole
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ur an asshole
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thanks for the compliment.
to be totally frank, I had many of the same issues you did. From this forum alone, I'm up and running full time on the MotoFrenzy 2.2 build.
I only got working because there's plenty of other people who have had the same problem who have ALREADY documented the fixes.
If you look hard enough, I bet you'll find them too.
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this reminds me of the old addage about teaching a man to fish... just in this case, it's about teaching a man to search.
well it would save me a lot of time if you could just help me, like i just have one question,i got the working radio files from system/etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default/
an copied:
File_Audio
File_Audio2
File_GSM
File_Seem_Flex_Tables
generic_pds_init
now i jus dont know how to replace them witht eh froyo 2.2 ones. could u help me?
I really can't. I already spent a significant amount of time searching for answers in the loins of this forum for myself... I don't have time to do it for you too.
To be honest its quite the selfish request you're making there... hmmm... and you call me an asshole then expect me to help. Ha. No thanks.
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just check out the first couple of pages of dexter's post, it's all in there
not to interfere with the debate,
but an honest answer is also, if you cannot understand the steps explained, i would not recommend trying to install any mods for openrecovery and messing with the files in the system..
you can easily corrupt the image, and you will spend even more time on trying to figure out why A is not working , while B,C,D problem suddenly occur causing A not to function..
I know HTC made it easy for all modders to make custom firmwares using almost identical radio's and only in some cases, it goes really bad for some regions, but in our case Motrola decided to make the baseband a huge part of the drivers and way to resolve communication and even make it provider locked or complex in a way i cannot even explain. (preferred providers over others as example, custom mobile services as another)
many HTC mods, includes support for like 12-15 countries in one image, looking at "locale" supported, where motorola pushes 12 different firmwares out..i personally only mess with a UK as it worked fine for me, trying to make the other 11 work, would require much more support and engagement in the technical aspects of the mod..we are lucky a few document and write feedback on how they accomplished to make it work (telus as example)
I couldn't agree more.
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got it all working
I just read a post by roebeet (well known dev who put together the TNT Lite ROMS) and something he said made enough sense to me that I thing everyone needs to hear it.
If you are going to flash and try everything you find on this site -- you run a real risk have having problems. Everything you flash adds, changes and deletes stuff from your tablet and some of that gets carried over from ROM to ROM to program.
Just because you partition/erase/delete/overwrite does not mean your tablet content is destroyed. There are a bunch of partitions on your tablet (12?) and some are preserved and some are modified depending on what you do.
So am I saying "Don't mod you G-Tablet" or "Don't try out new stuff." NO.
1. Make real sure you know what you are doing. Too many people just rush ahead and wind up with real problems.
2. Read directions and read all the posts about others who have done the same thing you want to do.
3. When you are making changes, do them one at a time and make sure it's working right before moving on. When you change a bunch of stuff it's hard to tell what the problem/problems is and where it came from.
4. IMHO, too many people see the modding as a game and then they get mad at the dev or people who are trying to help them -- when all the time it was their own fault!
I think it would even be a good idea if someone knowledgeable could help us see if we could put together a flash which would actually delete/erase what's on a
troubled tab so it could be rebuilt. Sorry, but I don't talk enough Android yet to do that.
Think about it.
Rev
butchconner said:
I think it would even be a good idea if someone knowledgeable could help us see if we could put together a flash which would actually delete/erase what's on a
troubled tab so it could be rebuilt.
Rev
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I would recommend running a format zip before any reloading on a Gtab whether a new rom or the stock. Just like all the computers I work on for people the first thing I do is run a program to erase the hard drive to make sure nothing old can interfere with a new reload of the operating system
Calkulin has this format zip from his rom thread or you could use the other one from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974422
Start fresh don't just overwrite!
ale
Calkulin's Format all is awesome
Exactly. Calkulin's format all is a life saver. It is much cleaner and faster way than to do three or four steps to clean stuff out (Invariably one forgets one of the steps which causes all the problems).
I have used this file to solve many problems going from rom to rom... Good stuff.
[Q] Should I step back and use the format zip?
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I would recommend running a format zip before any reloading on a Gtab whether a new rom or the stock. Just like all the computers I work on for people the first thing I do is run a program to erase the hard drive to make sure nothing old can interfere with a new reload of the operating system
Calkulin has this format zip from his rom thread or you could use the other one from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974422
Start fresh don't just overwrite!
ale
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Two days ago I reset my gtab to stock. I have the 3389 zip saved and installed that using clockwork. I also used clockwork and did the data wipe/factory reset right before actually applying the rom.
Loading the stock VS rom removes clockwork and after reboot it pulled the OTA update and currently running the 3588 version.
I did this in anticipation of the upcoming VS update. The tablet seems to be running fine and as I said it's able to find and apply OTA updates.
Would you still recommend running this format zip, and then re-apply the 3389 I have saved?
Thanks,
Neudle
** Would like to point out there is a comment in the referenced post concerning using this format zip..."So this is a "detox" program for our gtablet that we can choose to run prior to NVflash process. And this process should not be done unless absolutely necessary, right?" "Yes, exactly..."
Neudle,
If you were at 3389 and did 3588 via OTA, I would try my recovery. If it does not
come up with your old CWM, then it should be stock recovery and you should be
good to go.
If needed, you always have the option of manually loading recovery and the 3588 update.zip into /sdcard and flashing stock again.
Rev
butchconner said:
Neudle,
If you were at 3389 and did 3588 via OTA, I would try my recovery. If it does not
come up with your old CWM, then it should be stock recovery and you should be
good to go.
If needed, you always have the option of manually loading recovery and the 3588 update.zip into /sdcard and flashing stock again.
Rev
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Thank you for the response.
Actually I think my tablet is fine. Unless I'm really confused (which is certainly possible) 3389 was the update from late december/early january. The 3588 is the update that came up in like febuary. Isn't 3588 the most recent?
This isn't the first time I've reloaded the stock rom and it seems it always over-writes/removes the clockworkmod.
I was simply more curious if you folks do feel it's always best to use the format.zip when swapping roms?
As I said, I'm simply prepping and anticipating the upcoming update from Viewsonic and not worried about clockworkmod for the time being. From what I've seen the update includes a recovery that looks similar.
Thanks again,
Neudle
I think the OP makes an excellent point for all us weekend tinkerers. The G-Tab is my first experience with an android device and although I have experience with rooting and flashing roms and kernals on another platform (WEBOS on my Palm pre), I have spent my first few weeks with this device just reading as much as I can on these forums before trying anything myself.
I was fortunate enough to get a great deal on this tab second hand from somebody who had already flashed it with Vegantab ( I believe 5.1.1). As it stands, it pretty much does everything I need it to do and there is no reason to break what alreday works...... except that I am a weekend tinkerer...... and I am thinking that I would like to try Calkulin's rom.
At the moment, I am not sure that it represent's an upgrade over what I have and I may wait for something gingerbread or honeycomb based that people report to have a signifigant benefit over Vegan 5.1.1...although I am sure I will convince myself differently at some point.
I know that I have CWM installed and that I can use this to clear up caches and personal info before flashing another ROM. Does Calkulin's format erase this? If so, does it need to be re-installed before putting on a new ROM? I am reading posts about people flashing back to stock and receiving updates before flashing a new rom. This completely confuses me as I don't understand the benefit unless, as the OP seems to indicate, there are bits that are left over from the old ROM when a new one is flashed. Is this desirable?
Sorry if I am asking so many questions in this thread. I know that there are bits and pieces of info scattered among many threads but some of it seems contradictory and some I am sure is outdated.
Can someone either outline or point me in the right direction to a step by step that outlines the most current and least likely way to brick upgrade from Vegan to Calkulin's ROM?
Thanks
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2. Read directions and read all the posts about others who have done the same thing you want to do.
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Here's my problem. Where is the step by step, this is how you take a GTab you just bought, to ROM "XYZ" the correct way? There are lots of "how to"s scattered all over this forum, but no one sticky at the top that says "Here's a step by step". Right now, I'm reading through everything again, before I try and mod my tablet, and it's a mess. It would be nice is someone+moderator made a nice, straight forward LOCKED thread that is stuck, that explains it all. The FAQ isn't quite the information necessary (in my eyes).
I'm pretty technical (engineer by trade) and if it takes me a bit to figure out how to do something, the general n00b is going to screw something up.
Just my thoughts.
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Here's my problem. Where is the step by step, this is how you take a GTab you just bought, to ROM "XYZ" the correct way? There are lots of "how to"s scattered all over this forum, but no one sticky at the top that says "Here's a step by step". Right now, I'm reading through everything again, before I try and mod my tablet, and it's a mess. It would be nice is someone+moderator made a nice, straight forward LOCKED thread that is stuck, that explains it all. The FAQ isn't quite the information necessary (in my eyes).
I'm pretty technical (engineer by trade) and if it takes me a bit to figure out how to do something, the general n00b is going to screw something up.
Just my thoughts.
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I haven't found that to be the case at all. In fact, I've seen nothing but repetitive reinforcement of proper procedures from every knowledgeable source. If the ROM Creator says use clockworkmod to install then wipe data... well do it. If he/she says use standard recovery... well... This isn't rocket science. I've installed and tested every ROM listed here with no failures by following the included instructions. I can't believe that is an anomaly.
If you want to be truly successful, learn what each of these tools (clockworkmod, nvflash, etc.) does and more importantly what they do not do. When you educate yourself to their proper use you won't be finding yourself using a hammer when you need a screwdriver.
hotfire!,
I think that's one of the points I hoped to make in this thread.
I appreciate the "format" tips -- but I have not used it and none of the folks whose opinion I watch for have put their stamp of approval on it -- so my opinion of it is still
in the making. I will use it only cautiously until I have confidence it is good.
But as you have said, we do have a hodgepodge of stuff here. People try to do
too much too fast -- and others suggest stuff that doesn't need to be done.
For example -- if somethings crashes on my G-Tablet, I go back to a basic CWM/ROM combo that I know is good so I have a solid place to start and then rebuild. Takes a little longer, but I think it save me a lot of anquish.
So like a lot of others, I just help where I can. But I do try to be conservative and consistent making suggestions the will not "snow" the new or offend those who think
they know what they are doing.
And to everyone I suggest the wrong thing, OOOOPs, and apologies. To those who
help me an give others good help -- thank you.
Rev
K J Rad said:
I haven't found that to be the case at all. In fact, I've seen nothing but repetitive reinforcement of proper procedures from every knowledgeable source. If the ROM Creator says use clockworkmod to install then wipe data... well do it. If he/she says use standard recovery... well... This isn't rocket science. I've installed and tested every ROM listed here with no failures by following the included instructions. I can't believe that is an anomaly.
If you want to be truly successful, learn what each of these tools (clockworkmod, nvflash, etc.) does and more importantly what they do not do. When you educate yourself to their proper use you won't be finding yourself using a hammer when you need a screwdriver.
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But therein lies the problem. There *is* a great thread on installing CWM and then ROMs using that. Step by step, it's fantastic. Installing a new kernel *is* found in some of the threads, but I wish that great thread with the CWM and ROM installation also had Kernel info.
Regardless of if you know how these tools work, it's nice to have a step by step to follow, just to ensure you're doing everything in order. I do it at work when I'm working with a new system (I write it myself) just to make sure I follow the same procedure every time. It helps when problems arise.
I'm just saying, for the n00bs, it would be nice to have a "one size fits all" thread. I was able to successfully install CWM and Vegan without a single problem, as I've been reading this forum for MONTHS, but I'm not a normal person (nor are most of the regulars here).
One thing I try to do, is demystify technology. Make it easy, explain it in simple ways while still being effective as describing what is going on, and then you don't get "stupid questions" later. Essentially, trying to run in the opposite direction that most Linux forums tend to be. Threads buried 2 years back have the info, everyone screams at the n00bs saying "USE THE SEARCH".
Love this forum, the people here are REALLY helpful, but there is room for improvement. That's all I'm saying.
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But therein lies the problem. There *is* a great thread on installing CWM and then ROMs using that. Step by step, it's fantastic. Installing a new kernel *is* found in some of the threads, but I wish that great thread with the CWM and ROM installation also had Kernel info.
Regardless of if you know how these tools work, it's nice to have a step by step to follow, just to ensure you're doing everything in order. I do it at work when I'm working with a new system (I write it myself) just to make sure I follow the same procedure every time. It helps when problems arise.
I'm just saying, for the n00bs, it would be nice to have a "one size fits all" thread. I was able to successfully install CWM and Vegan without a single problem, as I've been reading this forum for MONTHS, but I'm not a normal person (nor are most of the regulars here).
One thing I try to do, is demystify technology. Make it easy, explain it in simple ways while still being effective as describing what is going on, and then you don't get "stupid questions" later. Essentially, trying to run in the opposite direction that most Linux forums tend to be. Threads buried 2 years back have the info, everyone screams at the n00bs saying "USE THE SEARCH".
Love this forum, the people here are REALLY helpful, but there is room for improvement. That's all I'm saying.
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Short answer: Great idea! When will you have it ready? ;-)
Long answer...
I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that there isn't a one size fits all answer to this "problem" (certainly not since the addition of TwoTapsX). The step by step instructions for installing ROMs, kernels, other hacks, etc. exist in the threads that contain the product (and most of those are stickied) because they aren't always identical. One "Superpost" meant to encompass all of those instructions would grow to be much too large and include far too many logical branches to be effective when you take into account the individual caveats for each. However, the methods for installing many of the products is similar in most cases even if the tools are not identical. Understanding which tool to use and how it works is the key to a successful experience.
For example are the recent cases of problems with TwoTapsX (formerly TnTLite 5.0.x). The instructions in the thread clearly stated that the users should start from a clean Viewsonic ROM without CWM (very different from other ROMs). It even stated an nvflash might be necessary if you had any problems with the install (also not usually necessary with other ROMs). Still, the overwhelming majority of users that had problems had failed to follow the instructions correctly and were unprepared to do an nvflash. These were generally not people that were new to the process, either. In cases where they were, a simple search for the error message they were getting or the condition they were experiencing turned up an answer within the first two or threes responses and virtually all of them were addressed in the original instruction thread or another recent thread with a similar title.
Another example, I still see threads daily about someone recently installing VEGAnTab 5.11 and all of a sudden their media disappears from their sdcard. This is a well known and very well documented problem with a long used successful work around. It isn't a case where their particular installation went awry, it's a known issue with the ROM. How many of those issues would need to be addressed in the "Superpost" in order to be effective and yet not be cumbersome?
To complicate things further, we now have indications that the next official release may change recovery to be incompatible with previous methods. It's possible we'll see further forking of these processes based on the developers preference of recovery which would reinforce the need to customize instructions for a particular product.
Room for improvement? Sure. I just think education is better than hand holding. I always encouraged my engineers to learn more and develop their own processes because they might actually be better, cheaper, more efficient, than whatever we currently had. I understood that MY answer might not always be the best one and I preferred to empower my associates.
All that being said... I'm all for anything that improves the community and more importantly helps its members. If you feel that it would be helpful then feel free to put something together or team with a few others to produce a document to address the issues you've identified. I'll be more than happy to link people to it if it fills a need for them just as I have to others in previous threads ;-)
Modding
You know normally I just read and lurk around here, but I can't keep my mouth shut any longer.
**WARNING** Not that I expect anyone to notice because apparently half of you can't read or don't comprehend what you do read, but anything past this point is probably not contributing to the conversation in a constructive way and should be considered as me ranting.
I have had my tab since December and have flashed every single Rom found on this forum at one time or another and the problems I see people have just amaze me. It's amazing because 9 out of 10 times it's because they didn't bother to read/comprehend the darn instructions or they are to lazy to search/read/comprehend on how to fix it or start over.
I am by no means a rocket scientist/programmer/developer/modder myself but I can read something 3-4 times first to make sure I comprehend before I go off deliberately voiding the warranty on a $400 device. And if I break it? Guess What?? There are instructions for that to if people would bother to look. Granted the information can be scattered around but if you can't be bothered to search/read then you should probably not be using a android device.
Last thing and I'll shut up. The entitlement I see coming from alot of people really makes my blood boil. You are an early adopter of bleeding edge technology, there are going to be problems and alot of them! If you didn't do research on the tab before you bought it you have no right to complain. The devs are not paid except by an occasional donation. They do this on their own time with their own equipment for the community. THEY DO NOT OWE YOU A THING, AND YOU SHOULD WORSHIP THEM SINCE WE ALL GET TO BENEFIT FROM THEIR HARD WORK!!!
Be Contented....
After tried two ROMs (TnT and NI) and finally sticked to NI, am well contented and satisfied. I think being contented may less your problem...
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Short answer: Great idea! When will you have it ready? ;-)
<Plus lots of other stuff you said>
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As you can see from my post count, I'm historically a lurker. I've literally read every single thread in the GTab section since December. The problem for me, mostly came down to once I bought the device (I research stuff to death before I pull the trigger) and was ready to try a new ROM, it was information overload. There *is* a good thread about ROMs and CWM as I said, so I followed that, after reading it 6 times to ensure there were no gotchas.
I want to try out Pershoot's kernel, but I don't feel like I've read the procedure enough times to feel confident I'll be able to do it without having to fix something I broke. So, I'll read it a few dozen times, research the tools used, and finally get to it.
End of the day, I'll probably ask the person who did the ROM thread if they wouldn't mind added text that I've put together for the Kernels (as a supplement to what he did). I do want to give back to the community.
Also, you'll hopefully be seeing some hardware mods coming soon from me, fully documented. My true love is hardware, so I'll leave the ROMs and Kernels to the software guys, and focus on improvements on the physical side of things.
Thanks for keeping the conversation friendly. Always great to hear other people's opinions on matters.
Hardware mods would be VERY cool. Just remember to put something in the thread about how to talk your wife into letting you replace the smoldering mess on the kitchen table so I'll be covered... ;-)
h3llphyre said:
Also, you'll hopefully be seeing some hardware mods coming soon from me, fully documented. My true love is hardware, so I'll leave the ROMs and Kernels to the software guys, and focus on improvements on the physical side of things.
Thanks for keeping the conversation friendly. Always great to hear other people's opinions on matters.
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I think I speak for everyone here when I say "Bring them on!"
2 cents to add
I have worked in various areas of IT for over 30 years. Unfortunately android has not been one of them but the basic ideas are always the same. As one reader noted (with a little bit of steam coming from his ears) no one owes you anything here. You aren't paying and you're pretty lucky to have so many talented people making their efforts available to you. I, for one, am very appreciative. I do see the point however about documentation. I have been slowly (and painfully) coming up to speed on the various facets of this g-tab experience. What I find most frustrating is not the lack of directions (there are plenty if you look) or even responses (Clemsyn responded to my request for kernel updating info) but the lack of basic information. I recognize a linux type structure when I snoop around the file system. What is the relation of the ROMS to that? What exactly does clockwork do and where does it live? When you "clear caches" what exactly are you clearing? etc. I'm not expecting answers to these questions here but I think that is the problem a lot of us "caught in the middle guys" have. Sure, we can follow directions and usually everything works just the way it is supposed to but we don't know WHY. If you just blindly follow directions that makes you a "user" not an "admin" and who wants to be a user???? ha-ha What I really want to know is how/where do the more experienced people here (including devs) get their base information to know how to tinker with kernels, ROMS, etc? Where is the G-Tab Development for Dummies book hiding????
enigmas 0456,
You will find that lack of documentation is the hallmark of Android -- not just
here but everywhere. Probably more info here than most places.
Rev