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I just noticed this app:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.freecoder.android.cmplayer.v7
anyone use it? thoughts?
works great for me....
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works great for me....
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it plays all the formats it claims to? wow.. you haven't had any issues with it at all?
It works really well, .mkv files play choppy, but any of the .mkv files I converted to mp4 play great. Divx rips play really well, they often look clearer on the small screen than on my monitor!
Been using it for weeks. Plays the most formats I've ever seen of any android player. Best part... Its free!!! Wish I could find a stand alone player for .swf format movies.
Now they want 10 bucks for it!!! Not worth it. But you can still use it. NAGWARE
ROCKPLAYER plays all avi files....
Its all I need )
doesnt work with hdmi out
If its not in the market I won't buy it.
never tried it yet, might in a bit though...
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If its not in the market I won't buy it.
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It now is and is out of beta
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beta version gave me a bad humming buzzing sound when it got quiet in all my .avi files hopefully they fixed it..
that's weird.. i haven't heard any humming sound, although avi audio and video lags. i don't know why.
oh and i tried an mp4 720p video on it, such lag... i'm not sure how i feel about it. it's an otherwise good player.
Yeah, I downloaded the new release today, they changed it to ad/support or pay if you don't want to see ads.
Videos I had encoded into mp4 that played pretty well before, and flawlessly through the phone's video player, now are laggy, especially when you skip through the video.
mkv's still lag, avi/divx still plays well.
I hope they fix all this soon.
I've been using it since it was leaked awhile back, love it.
mrono said:
I've been using it since it was leaked awhile back, love it.
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no lag in avi files between audio and video? and what about hd videos? i'm going to try more videos..
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no lag in avi files between audio and video? and what about hd videos? i'm going to try more videos..
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I don't have any except for when seeking through the files or playing after pause. For a few short seconds audio is choppy or there is none. Also so far I can't get subs to work. Oh and I forgot about HD, well you can fahget about it. 720p vids of bleach, in mpg format, that also seem to have low bitrates since its only 300 plus mbs didn't work. That was with the beta though for the latter.
It only supports .srt UTF-8 subtitles currently.
The application definitely needs some polish. It can't play most HD files yet, and needs more support for other subtitle formats and audio types, but it's the most capable player on Android. One of the only ones that'll play divx files flawlessly.
I love it used the beta for ever but yes it is out of beta and on the market get it while you can
One thing I like about rockplayer that I haven't seen posted anywhere is that it plays flv's. I have ton of those(I had a love affair with youtubedownloader for a while!)
How do I associate it with video files to make it the default video player?
Should I be able to open a file on my LAN via the wireless network in ESTRong explorer and play it?
In particular MKV files.
I have noted that if I playback an 720p MKV with AC3/DTS sound the video plays perfectly fluid. No microjudder or frame drops AFAIK. But there is no sound of course because the inbuilt player does not support AC3/DTS natively.
However add AAC 2.0 audio into the file (MKV or MP4 container it matters not) I see judder. Kinda like when you have 23.976FPS playing on a 50Hz PAL CRT.
I have tried muxing at various framerates and interestingly the judder gets faster the higher the FPS. Very odd.
I'm used to dealing with AV stuff as I use MPC-HC/ReClock/MadVR etc to my HDTV over HDMI (BTW my Panasonic G20 Plasma does not recognise the TF HDMI output. My PC monittor does however so the TF is outputting in an unsupported res/Hz for my HDTV obviously).
It's puzzling me how when the TF does not have to playback audio the video is perfect but as soon as it has to decode audio it throws a wobbly.
The other interesting thing of note is that Youtube vids at 720p and even 1080p (Big Buck Bunny for instance) play just fine. Methinks that Flash is optimized to the Tegra 2 chip whilst the inbuilt TF player (and all the other players) are not. Moboplayer, Vplayer etc are all a bit crap at it. There is one player called LittlePlayer which gives the option of hardware playback but it is no better than the inbuilt player as it does not decode AC3/DTS and it too judders when AAC audio is played.
Anyone got a clue why this is the case? I was wondering if it was a UK specific issue (would not put it past Asus to make it PAL centric) but then why would it play a 23.976FPS 720p x264 in MKV perfectly (sans audio obviously)?
Yeah I have a 720p mkv and it plays a little off with the sound but I play a higher quality move still at 720p and the sound is like a second off. And the 1080p vids I have don't play at all. What app do you use to play your videos?
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you must be doing something wrong with the muxing or the avc stream you ended up with is not extracted properly.
I encode movies with x264 (commandline), encode the audio with neroaacen(lc, cbr, 128kbit) and mux them with mp4box. The file plays perfectly with the built-in player, meridian or rockplayer in hardware decoding mode.
Most mkv TV series I can extract th evideo stream from and use it, but not all. Some use too many reference frames while encoding and the TF can't handle it.
X264 profile high, level 4.1, preset veryfast or medium. No other options except quality level ((crf 20 or 21 I use mostly).
I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
The Youtube app is not using Flash. If it was, Youtube wouldn't play on the iPhone or iPad, and it most certainly wouldn't have played on Android devices before Android 2.2. If you want to see true Flash performance so far, load up Hulu and see if you can get a 480p stream to play acceptably. Edit: Since you mention the UK though, I probably shouldn't assume you're in the US. If that's the case, just load up any Flash-based video player besides Youtube. Sometimes it helps to set your user agent to Desktop, too.
The Youtube app is actually using HTML5, with videos encoded in H.264/MPEG-4 AVC and stereo AAC. The maximum bitrates supported are 5 Mbit/s and 152 kbps, respectively. You need to bear in mind too that by playing videos through the browser, the servers will recognize the device you're playing from and compress and optimize the stream accordingly. A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream. Locally-stored videos, however, are free to be downloaded and played in their maximum quality, so it's understandable that you may see some stutter on large files.
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I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
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Shoot them over
http://www.mediafire.com/?gp3bumw7qy9mppm
Check the panning of each. One has AAC audio the other not. Use the default inbuilt video player of the TF (Should offer if you click on the files if you have other players installed). The one without audio plays perfectly smooth on my TF. The one with audio has slight juddering.
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If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying).
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Just to clarify: You are talking about viewing youtube via the default _web_ browser, setting your user agent such that you get the desktop site and using the flash plugin to play the video? Rather then using the mobile youtube web site or using the built in youtube app?
FYI of your two clips the one without audio plays smoothly in the _default_ player and the one with audio chokes with "This video cannot be played" (This is assuming you tack ".mp4" onto the file names to fool the default media player into trying to play it)
Interesting... I just re-encoded the audio _only_ ("-vcodec copy -acodec libmp3lame" in ffmpeg) and that plays smoothly.
Now mp3 audio isn't part of the mp4 container spec so you'll only get away with it in an mkv container (its flexibility is one of the things that makes matroska difficult to parse)
Ah... the video is High profile at 3.8Mbps that pretty much on the limit of what the tegra2 can do at the moment (I'd say it over it actually) so I'd say that the addition of a complex (relative to mp3) audio track is just too much.
I bet if you re-encoded that video to baseline at the same bitrate and copied the audio stream it would play fine, its just at the max computation threshold.
sub'd... I want to see what you guys are doing, I'd really like to play at least 720p peacefully.
I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
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I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
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try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
I am using the same profile settings in handbrake (high profile) and ALL my videos are really smooth! and YES...I did have judder/stutter before. download the sample files and you can test it on your TF.
the ONLY downside is that handbrake takes a while to encode but its worth it!
hope this helps.
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While I agree that, officially, Honeycomb doesn't support the mkv container. It must be able to parse it as it does support WebM and that uses the matroska container.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6553908/with_audio_mp3.mkv
This is the same video stream but with the audio re-encoded to mp3, plays nicely for me in the default video player it I tack ".mp4" on the end to fool the player into trying to play it.
I don't stream but everything e.mote said about hinting is spot on, also you may want to look at interleaving (a feature of the muxing that MP4Box can do) is you want to stream.
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A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream.
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Way too generalized. I have a Playbook and it plays 1080p Youtube in the browser flawlessly.
I played The Cape clip from the example Handbrake settings thread. The clip plays with micro judder like every other clip with sound. I am now using a Prime 1.4 rooted not the stock firmware and it still does it. It is like frame drop every half or quarter second. If you have ever seen NTSC 23.976FPS played back on a PAL 50Hz CRT TV you will know what it looks like. It is very obvious on pans.
Surely I cannot be the ONLY person who can see this??? Are your eyes really that bad?
EDIT: Tried the MP3 version you provided. Still there. You can count the judder. Tick tick tick tick... every quarter second.
EDIT2: I guess the only way to demonstrate this to you guys is by way of a video of it along with some audio prompting from me to point it out to you (excuse the d(t)icks). You will notice that the audio drops out for some reason during playback but when it does the video plays buttery smooth. No idea why the audio drops out. I was playing back the MP3 muxed version from the link above using Moboplayer but this problem - the juddering - occurs with any player I have tried. The juddering happens on every single video I have tested it on when it is decoding audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfdQP8BtEA
I will restate however. Yotube playback looks much smoother than playing a file from the inbuilt flash memory or SD cards.
I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
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BTW, if you recoded the clip, then I suggest using better settings. The settings used are excessive. When facing a device with marginal playback, there is less tolerance for bad encodes. If you're anal about playback, then you should be equally anal about your encode settings.
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Thanks for that. But since your video judders just like every other clip that means diddly squat. I don't see why I should have to reencode every video I have in order for it to playback on the TF either. It should be able to handle 720p at least. It does play it but only plays it smoothly with no audio playback whatsoever.
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I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
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Phew! Thanks for chimeing in! I am glad it's not just me. Do you live in the UK perchance? If not that would rule out any UK specific reasons.
Nope, I'm in the US. My TF is also running Prime 1.4. I've tried the "stock" kernel and the OC kernel and the problem is the same with both. I didn't think to test video before rooting and installing Prime, so I can't vouch for whether or not it happens on completely stock HC 3.1
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How... what...
Are you serious? I see literally no issue. Either my eyes or your camera, one of the two can't pick up this judder. And I did notice the compression in the better encode offered here (text, grappling hooks, lasers, pretty much anything like that. Not a bad result, but clearly visible)
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I tried using handbrake to convert some standard definition video. I used the default H264 main profile settings. The video plays smoothly on any PC including a lowly netbook. When I play it on the Transformer it is very jerky almost as if every couple of seconds a frame is skipped. This happens on the video gallery app as well as Mobo. Are there any recommendations on compression settings or apps? By comparison, Youtube HD video plays flawlessly.
Thanks.
Using Anamorphic: strict and a constant quality of RF:22 I have been able to minimize the frame skipping of 1280x720 videos but not completely eliminate.
Thanks.
Isn't strange that the Transformer is having any difficulty at all? I am seeing the frame skipping with SD video (720 x 480). I am wondering if the Transformer just does a really poor job with H264 or if there some other way to encode video such that there is absolutely no issue with 480p or 720p video.
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Using Anamorphic: strict and a constant quality of RF:22 I have been able to minimize the frame skipping of 1280x720 videos but not completely eliminate.
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I just checked what I was using and it was the same. Those are the default settings except for the RF22. I am using the default RF20 but considering I am only trying to encode 480p it makes no sense that the video should be choppy at all.
Setting Handbrake to Universal, then setting the encode to a constant 1Mb or 1.5Mb, seems to help, but its not perfect. The most important thing seems to be to downmix the audio from DD5.1 or whatever to plain old 2-channel AAC stereo or similar.
Rockplayer seems to be the best player I have tried so far. Mobo is OK.
Video rips for our Tranny's
Having some problems with this too..
Killing me as my Evo runs smooth video..
little disappointed I have to do so much work finding a way to play video's..
I will report back with my findings as I am playing with a few different players at the moment..
I too would like to just setup up a video rip system for the transformer that works without too many hassles..
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Having some problems with this too..
Killing me as my Evo runs smooth video..
little disappointed I have to do so much work finding a way to play video's..
I will report back with my findings as I am playing with a few different players at the moment..
I too would like to just setup up a video rip system for the transformer that works with too many hassles..
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It'll be interesting to see what you come up with. I've been using handbrake with both main and high profile, and haven't had any trouble in the stock player, or any other player.
Hey guys,
Trying to setup my GFs phone with some media to watch while at the gym, and I can get everything on there fine and use different players to watch it, but I noticed no matter the player there's a significant frame drop/stuttering in the playback, especially when compared to my S2.
Anybody else notice any choppiness when playing back media? Only tested with divx TV shows downloaded from the web (playback from phones camera seems to be fine.)
Thoughts?
Hrmmm. Not sure. I use MX video player for playback and have been happy. This is mostly for flash video and camcorder on phone, but I haven't tried any divx. For the most part everything is fairly smooth.
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Hey guys,
Trying to setup my GFs phone with some media to watch while at the gym, and I can get everything on there fine and use different players to watch it, but I noticed no matter the player there's a significant frame drop/stuttering in the playback, especially when compared to my S2.
Anybody else notice any choppiness when playing back media? Only tested with divx TV shows downloaded from the web (playback from phones camera seems to be fine.)
Thoughts?
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I use handbrake to knock mine down to the proper size and have zero issues, I also use mine on the treadmill. Beats the heck out of the TV. I use realplayer
I use mx video player too. It works great but sometimes the video freezes and you have to hit back and select the video again. But that's only on software decoding.
If you convert the video to MPEG you can use h/w decoding which fixes that and seems to make the battery last longer.
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MoboPlayer works great for me.
Mx player is great,set to sw fast decode and it run very smooth. It support subtitle,interface is nice and easy to use.
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hi all,
I have a problem i would like to tell you about, i've spend all day testing but i did not succeed to make it.
So i hope some good friends here will help me.
I am running Elegancia pegasus 2.5.0 and i just install an video app called SUPER VIDEO. This apps lets you watch video in a pop up this way you can continue do anything else. it's like samsung galaxy s3 video player.
I usually use mx video player pro that works fine, two codec H/W and S/W, works with H/W by default. All normal video app witout pop up works fine on my phone.
I have tried super video on my sensation and on an evo 3D. It seems that i'm having a issue , i can not read video with H/W codec, audio is good but video laggs. only s/w works for some movies not too big. and if file is big, pic quality is bad ...
App works nice on EVO3D .... no problem at all.
this app is on playstore if someone wants to see more about it ...
so, if any one can help, i would be very pleased. thanks