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Android on smartphone or ppc??

I have seen they are working on this on a few different sites. Does anyone here no anything about it yet? I figure if anyone is going to do it, it woll be someone here..Here is a link of someone doing it on a mda 3.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/13/firm-shows-off-functional-android-build-on-ancient-htc-hardware/

From what I understood of what I read, it's technically not running it on a smartphone. You run a VNC Viewer on your phone (normally, VNC is software used to remotely control your PC), then setup your PC to feed the Android display to your phone.
So what's basically happening is Android runs in an emulator on your PC, but shows up on your phone.
Because of the nature of the VNC, however, this makes for a very slowly system and means you really can't make phone calls using it.

Oh...is that what they are doing there? I guess I didn't read closely enough. Thanks for the update. I was hoping to flash my Wizard with some mystical android rom at some point....I know............. I'm dreaming......but it would be cool..

gottifour said:
Oh...is that what they are doing there? I guess I didn't read closely enough. Thanks for the update. I was hoping to flash my Wizard with some mystical android rom at some point....I know............. I'm dreaming......but it would be cool..
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Agree... it would be cool. In the mean time, if you haven't already, check out PointUI. I expect it to progress into something really sick (it's pretty cool already).

Oh it'll most likely happen sooner or later...especially considering HTC is planning to release an Android device, which means possibly similar hardware, but it's still too early...

bigflavor said:
Agree... it would be cool. In the mean time, if you haven't already, check out PointUI. I expect it to progress into something really sick (it's pretty cool already).
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I'm checking it out as we speak..thanks for the link...
Here is a link to the android sdk....If you haven't checked it out yet you should its kind of cool.
http://code.google.com/android/download.html

How do you install andriod apps on a tilt 8925?

I downloaded and installed the android SDK with AVD and the drivers for USB connection. I read through their documentation and it should just pull up the hardware change, search where you then browse for that driver... but that new hardware profile never comes up. So how can I install android apps to the Tilt 8925 Kaiser?
Thanks for any help anyone can offer
DaveJ
(I didn't see any posts relating in the threads so far, sry if I missed it)

Thats not a android phone.

It is now
Well I put the android technology on it (a huge part of this site) so it's running like an android phone. So my question is then: Can I put android apps on my android hacked phone? I've seen people posting about how they have but I can't get mine to install the USB Drivers. I tried installing them manually into System32 with no luck so apkInstaller for example won't recognize it.
Is it possible? anyone?

It's probably better to ask in the Kaiser forums or threads from android images packaged for other WinMo devices.
One way we be to upload the apk to a webserver, then download and install it from the browser.

Lol Android on non-Android devices isn't meant to actually be used normally yet. It's more of a toy. Until that side of Android development gets a bit further, I don't think you'll be seeing much of what you can do on your WinMo device.

I'll try that
Ok thanks for the advice. I'll keep trying and post if i get it

Try this: Create a folder on the root of your SD card called AndroidApps, and put the .apk in there. Boot into Android and it should show up

HAH!!!
Well that was easy! I've got it easier than real android havers haha! So much for not being able to do it. Thanks DaveTheGuy. Must have something to do with the name!
Thanks Again!
DaveJ

dj5056 said:
Well that was easy! I've got it easier than real android havers haha! So much for not being able to do it. Thanks DaveTheGuy. Must have something to do with the name!
DaveJ
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Yo! gloat guy. It's even easier for us havers.

phuKKah said:
Lol Android on non-Android devices isn't meant to actually be used normally yet. It's more of a toy. Until that side of Android development gets a bit further, I don't think you'll be seeing much of what you can do on your WinMo device.
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Really? I was using my HTC Cruise with Android on it 4-5 months ago as an every day device, no problem at all. Phone calls, sms, browse the web, etc, whatever.

dj5056 said:
Well that was easy! I've got it easier than real android havers haha!
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I install apps that way on my ADP1 all the time so no you don't.

Dark side

Hi guys new here looks a great site, i have htc hd2 getting bored with all the problems im having with it, have had my phone a month now thinking maybe should have got a iphone,
I have problem when texting it says tap to compose text takes forever to get keyboard up
Told everyone my phone is a iphone killer they all want to see whats so good erm, dont know what i can show apart from the lovely animated weather wallpapers

try swype (sorry I don't have a cab link to hand but a quick search should delight you)

thanks for that

See our Leo section for tips, fixes, help, etc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531
Oh, Get the Nexus One if u want to go to the darkside!

galaxys said:
Oh, Get the Nexus One if u want to go to the darkside!
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Better yet, the HTC Desire.
And I wouldn't call Android the "dark side". Android's future looks pretty bright
(and no matter what anyone tries to make you believe, the iPhone is a joke, don't waste your money on that - if you want something more "iphoneish" than the HD2, but much much better than an actual iPhone, get the Desire/Nexus One)
Your keyboard problem could be ROM related. What ROM version are you running? Make sure you have at least the official 1.66 ROM.

freyberry said:
the iPhone is a joke, don't waste your money on that
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Have you actually used an iPhone for prolonged time?

Menneisyys said:
Have you actually used an iPhone for prolonged time?
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Yes, I've owned several iPhones...

hey tell app for htc hd 2

my cousin just showed me this app for the iphone called hey tell. its a voicemail text app, instead of texting you say a brief sentence and sending like atext and its just as fast as a regular text.also they can do the same. just wanted to know if they have a similar app for the hd 2.

I'm not familiar with hey tell, but Android has voice to text throughout the OS. You can voice to text SMS. Voice to text searches, etc. Of course it goes the other way too with text to voice so that it speaks turn by turn directions.
Android on the HD2 is getting very stable and useable now. It's been my primary OS for many weeks now.

falustine said:
my cousin just showed me this app for the iphone called hey tell. its a voicemail text app, instead of texting you say a brief sentence and sending like atext and its just as fast as a regular text.also they can do the same. just wanted to know if they have a similar app for the hd 2.
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Its called Tellme (see it here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKWjPONWl_c)
This can crash your phone so install latest microsoft voice command MSVC, it worked on and off for me so gave it the flick but others give it the thumbs up so each to their own.

I dont recomment using that app, can really brick your phone.

willgill said:
I'm not familiar with hey tell, but Android has voice to text throughout the OS. You can voice to text SMS. Voice to text searches, etc. Of course it goes the other way too with text to voice so that it speaks turn by turn directions.
Android on the HD2 is getting very stable and useable now. It's been my primary OS for many weeks now.
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Thanx willgill but i never really messed android on my hd2, too scared to mess it up lol. I just did little things like cht sense 2.5, and cht editor. I've been wanting to try to install android but I dont know where to begin, and I dont wanna mess up my phone.
As for the Tellme app, thanx guyz but not really like the heytell app. this is almost like nextel push to talk. Thank you guys for your advice. As for android lol when i get comfortable. Sorry I had a link from youtube, but they didnt allow me to post it because
i'm a new user.

falustine said:
Thanx willgill but i never really messed android on my hd2, too scared to mess it up lol. I just did little things like cht sense 2.5, and cht editor. I've been wanting to try to install android but I dont know where to begin, and I dont wanna mess up my phone.
As for the Tellme app, thanx guyz but not really like the heytell app. this is almost like nextel push to talk. Thank you guys for your advice. As for android lol when i get comfortable. Sorry I had a link from youtube, but they didnt allow me to post it because
i'm a new user.
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Dude man up already! If you can do cht you can do android with your eyes closed. Its really not that hard and because it runs from your sd card there's really nothing that can brick your phone. Once you go android you will not give WinMo a second thought. Trust me. The latest builds of droid are just as if not more stable than my WinMo setup. Battery drain is the only issue for me right now (it's not really that bad but it's not quite as good as WinMo atm) but once we get a nand version this should get better.

reocej said:
Dude man up already! If you can do cht you can do android with your eyes closed. Its really not that hard and because it runs from your sd card there's really nothing that can brick your phone. Once you go android you will not give WinMo a second thought. Trust me. The latest builds of droid are just as if not more stable than my WinMo setup. Battery drain is the only issue for me right now (it's not really that bad but it's not quite as good as WinMo atm) but once we get a nand version this should get better.
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lol can you help a fellow user to the right direction of where to begin. So atleast ill see the process of how to begin. I am insterested in trying out android, would invite the challenge, and probably could do it with my eyes closed. Again thank you

don't know how this app can brick a phone, its made for WM.
i do have the Tellme app and is wotrking great, and didn't have to download anything to make it work

reocej said:
Dude man up already! If you can do cht you can do android with your eyes closed. Its really not that hard and because it runs from your sd card there's really nothing that can brick your phone. Once you go android you will not give WinMo a second thought. Trust me. The latest builds of droid are just as if not more stable than my WinMo setup. Battery drain is the only issue for me right now (it's not really that bad but it's not quite as good as WinMo atm) but once we get a nand version this should get better.
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Android isn't that hard, as long as you know how to hspl unlock your phone, flash a custom ROM and a proper radio. Nothing to it at all for a noob....
Maybe that's why we NEVER see threads that start "help me, I think I bricked my phone!!!"
MaD-TiCk said:
don't know how this app can brick a phone, its made for WM.
i do have the Tellme app and is wotrking great, and didn't have to download anything to make it work
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it worked for me on some ROMs and not on others. depended on what custom or stock ROM I was using at the time.

it worked for me on some ROMs and not on others. depended on what custom or stock ROM I was using at the time.[/QUOTE]
cool. well im on TMOUS 2.13

MaD-TiCk said:
don't know how this app can brick a phone, its made for WM.
i do have the Tellme app and is wotrking great, and didn't have to download anything to make it work
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ill try it out. As for android when i get off of work 7 in the morning ill look up how to begin and attempt to do it when i get time.

just in case i found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650062
but like i said before i didn't have to download anything else

MaD-TiCk said:
just in case i found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650062
but like i said before i didn't have to download anything else
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I found out howto put android on my phone, out is simple its like updating your rom from tmobile. so im going to try that when I get home, hopefully nothing happens to my phone. I already downloaded everything I need, so wish me good luck guy s, thanx allod your for your help and advice.

I just want to let you guys know I got it baby finally got android working. Thank you all for your help and patience.

I want wp7 or dual boot option

IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!

I'd be interested in trying this out too. There was a project to create on on another Android Device, I just can't remember which one.

My grandparents always had this saying: **** in one hand and wish in the other. See which fills up faster.
I still to this day have no clue what that means but I feel like it applies here.
Just funning. This would be something I'd want too but I believe it's near impossible without a companion device on that OS a la HD2/EVO/HD7. That's why the HD2 can dual-boot all those OSes.

freakboy13 said:
IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!
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The closest your gonna get for now is the Launcher 7 app. Its free from the market.

Unfortunately (Or fortunately imo), this is likely never going to happen. It's just not possible with the extra security that MS has employed, and it would in all honesty be a waste of time. There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't. (AFAIK.)

Yea it would be definitely unique for them to make that possible...sort of like how they're trying to port android to the HD7...this could be a sort of new age HD2 LOL...you know without Wm of course
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Ive also read security is tough. they went the extra mile and there are a few hardware signatures.
I would be interested in seeing this happen for an N1 or G2x simply out of curiousity because i dont see myself ever leaving android let alone to buy a windows phone. a port would allow me to try it out for a while ( i think i know 1 person that has a WP7 ) lol
Id be curious to see how well it integrates to the PC and XBOX 360. ever since the windows smartphone became an Idea they killed the ability to see my android on the xbox which is a shame.

Dameon87 said:
There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't.
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Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.

jacob808 said:
My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Riiight. because everyone that has developed roms and code for android just ignores that and lets google "listen in"

jacob808 said:
Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Someone seems a little paranoid Also: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/android-rim-apple-comscore.png
P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.

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P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.
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Agreed, I can't imagine any devs putting in the HUGE effort it would take to port WP7 to this device given the lack of demand for such a port (most people who want WP7 buy a phone with WP7). That said, it would be a great technical accomplishment and just plain cool.

my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn (insert deragatory tasteless term here for all you pc bishes).
I dont mind the off topic comments

freakboy13 said:
WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
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Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.

freakboy13 said:
my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
I dont mind the off topic comments
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I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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hiko36 said:
Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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hiko36 said:
Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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yeah ok "storm" ... I changed it so you dont cry to mommy that i hurt your feelings but fyi I didnt type "gay".... can we get back to topic now? ill try n watch my p's n q's. Funny how every one can say the f word and all kind of swearing on this forum, but the minute i use the word gay someone has to whine about it. WHy dont you look up the original context of the term ghey and how its NOT a deragatory term. SOme people got to much time on their hands. Man up will ya?

for the file explorer there are plenty of free great apps.
for the browser Its not as great as my desktop but i use it often and don't have any issues. the mobile version of websites is becoming more common and when the web admin does a good job the mobile specific version is laid out better. for example sun-trust mobile. I don't even miss having an app the mobile site is so well laid out
when I need a desktop version in CM7 i just select "change user agent" under settings. if you don't like that there is always Firefox which isnt perfect but i love the syncing favs/passwords with desktop.
I will however agree with the lack of "pizzaz and wow" with media. and i REALLY agree with you on the featureless gallery and not being able to better organize it.
Just remember the whole point in android isn't to have everything set up just the way YOU like it right away. not everyone likes the same thing. the beauty in android is if you don't like it you can easily change it.
think of it this way.. the Iphone is a great phone for many people. but if you don't like the way something works or don't like Itunes you are pretty much S.O.L
once you get everything set and dialed in you wont ever want to part with your android and most other phone users are jealous
that being said.. again i really do agree with you and there needs to be some work done with the way the phone deals with media and storage.

bdkinney said:
I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?

I had a mt4g then went to the hd7 in high hopes for the wp7 and enjoyed it for a few days simply because of Netflix and simplicity... but. I came running back to android on the g2x after 2 terrible hd7 handsets... it had a few nice features but in no way stands up against what we can mold our android to be.
As for the browser wp7 was amazingly smooth...
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freakboy13 said:
Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?
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Maybe u would enjoy the zune launcher
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hah.. lets not get started on ZUNE. I still love my old Zune 130 because i prefer the hardware buttons during work. if it wasn't for that and storage.my G2X might replace it.
the zune software is better than it was but it still isn't great and I still don't understand why a MICROSOFT zune cant natively sync with MICROSOFT media player.
anyway back on topic haha