Well,the rules to abide by in this forum...Hope to keep every member in there safe.
Use the Smartphone General forum for GENERIC posts, hacks, tutorials, questions!
If you have a question / tip / hack / trick also applicable to (most) other Smartphone models, please PLEASE post it to the brand new General Smartphone forum. Few Smartphone users check out the forums of other Smartphone models and, therefore, your questions / tips / other stuff will be read by a LOT more people if you post it to a general forum than in just a model-specific one.
As has already been pointed out, everything should be posted to the new General forum that isn’t ONLY related to the particular model. Some examples of what should be posted to the General forum and what should stay in a device-specific one:
* posts like “the SPICA has a very bad-quality Camera" should stay in the device-specific SPICA subforum because it’sonly the SPICA that is affected by this problem. The same stands for problems with the bootloaders of a given model or specific ROM upgrades, ROM versions, unlocking etc. only applicable to a given model (and nothing else).
* posts like Live Messenger CAB’s , OpenVPN hacks hacking etc. should go to the General forum because these hacks, information etc. can be used on (almost) ALL Smartphone models.
* if you have a question that you feel can be answered by other Smartphone users, do NOT post it to a device-specific forum, but to the generic one. Generic questions are “What Web browsers should I use?”, “How do I configure my e-mail client?”, “How do I install Flash on my device” and so on. ONLY post questions like “What about ROM version X.Y for Smartphone model XY”, “How do I enable HSDPA in model XY”, “Where should I get FROYO for model SPICA”, “I have problems with the Camera of my SPICA”, “My SPICA’s buttons are hard to press” – that is, questions you’re absolutely sure about belonging to model-specific forums.
Also, make sure you continuously monitor the forum because I’ll post a lot of brand new Smartphone-related information in there.
Again and again,
1. POST ALL your questions / tips / hacks in the General forum if you find it can also apply to / answered by the owners of other Smartphone models
2. frequently visit the new forum for new tips / questions and, last but not least, my tutorials / roundups
thanks to Menneisyys for the rules...
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Thinking of posting a new thread???
Please read the following
Forum Searching | Posting | The Basics: (Make sure you've read them before starting a new thread)
Forum Rules - http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=642
Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Google Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304582
Advanced Searching - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=How%20to%20use%20Advanced%20Search%20on%20XDA-Developers%20Forum
XDA "Mantra" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
Did you post and now you can't find it?
1. Try looking at your previous posts by using the link below (replace *userid* with your userid)
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=*userid*
or go to your profile and it is under statistics.
2. If you can't find it, it was probably deleted.
3. If you think it was deleted DO NOT POST about it. PM neoobs (me) and I will try to find it. If it was deleted by mistake I will recover it for you.
If you start a thread asking where your post/thread went, I will delete it. If you start too many of these threads, I will ban you for a week.
I am locking Tutorials to try and keep them clean, Please try to add a page to the wiki or add to another page (all hero tweaks under the page for their specific rom) with what you posted.
If you need a support question answered PM me and I will reopen it.
First post updated. Please read it
ATTENTION!!We are glad that our community is growing really fast. Unfortunately, the number of topics in the threads of the forums grow in a very larger manner
Unfortunately not every user is aware of the general forum usage and posting rules
As a direct consequence to that MODERATORS will apply the Elf forum, a very strict moderating policy which might imply:
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an already discussed topic;
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread addresses an issue such as "Which ROM is the best", "Elf vs iPhone", etc.;
immediate post deletion in the case of double posting;
immediate thread deletion and a temporary BAN in case of thread spamming (to be more exact, creating the same thread twice, with different name, etc.);
immediate thread deletion when newly created thread subject lines are not as per posting policy mentioned below
closing old threads (you can always PM a MOD with the link of the thread you want to reopen);
eventually deleting old threads
Please consider a few guidelines before posting to the Elf Forum and Subfora! (also applies to other Fora!)
DO check whether your question has been asked before!
There are some questions that have been asked before several times.
Use the “Search” function on the brown menu bar on the top of the page. There you have the options the have Google search inside XDA-developers site or to use the built-in forum search
If your search has no / unsatisfying results, try with different keywords
If your question has been asked, read the thread or use the “Search” function to search through that specific thread
If you don’t find the answer, try posting in that thread as chances are bigger someone can help you.
Alternatively you can start using the XDA-Developers FireFox & IE Search Bar Plug In.
DO read the Wiki!
Chances are that the answer to your question is already to be found in the Wiki. So please check the Wiki and read the FAQs.
DO edit the Wiki!
All the information that is stored in the Wiki is dynamic. Therefore it can be edited by everyone. Updating the Wiki in this way leaves us with an up to date Wiki which can successfully answer other user’s question only by reading it.
Also posting an answer you get on the forum to the Wiki helps other users with future similar questions.
Don't be afraid of editing the Wiki if you don't understand the wiki syntax: Formating may seem a bit complicated at the beginning, but you don't have to care too much if you just want to add content, add it as if you were writing a text document and sure someone more experienced with wiki syntax will edit it after and correct the bad formating mistakes.
New here?
If you are a first timer, welcome aboard!
Please read the General Guidelines of XDA-developers posting.
As a rule of thumb, let’s try to maintain the following structure:
Elf
(General talk. Post general issues related to Diamond, software, skins, fixes, tips, tricks, OS issues, etc.)
Elf upgrading
(Specific talk. Post issues related to upgrading only, Utilities, HardSPL, Radios, unbricking, etc.)
Elf accessories
(Specific talk. Post issues related to accessories only, SD Cards, headsets, remote, etc.)
ATTENTION CHEFs and USERS!
Let's try to post our ROMs the following way:
Code:
[ROM][LANGUAGE][DATE]rom name and version (Build)[STATUS]
[KITCHEN][WWE][08/08/08]KOKOTAS ELF(in) Hybrid Kitchen (version 1.3)[ONLINE]
[PRJ][WWE][BETA]BRAM / NOONSKI Touch Surface 6.1 Public Beta Release Candidate Unskinned[ONLINE]
[ROM][WWE][22.08.08]HTCTOUCHP NEW BUILD!! Touch ESSentiaL v1.8 (WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.20296)[ONLINE]
[ROM][WWE][23.08.08]ABABREKAR UC2.0 + Mortscript capable new Ultra Clean Edition concept[OFFLINE]
[REF]NOONSKI Cooking Class Class of 2008/09[ONLINE]
[ROLLUP]KOKOTAS AVOID cOnFuSiOn & DaMaGeS -> FIND aNsWeRs, GuIdEs, LiNkS, eTc.[ONLINE]
[UPG]HTCTOUCHP New USPLs & IPLs for Elf & Elfin[ONLINE]
* If name is too long for Thread title, leave out the [STATUS] ([ONLINE], [OFFLINE])
For upgrade tools (HSPL, SSPL, CID, SIM, etc.), use:
Code:
[UPG]Description
For complete kitchens, use:
Code:
[KITCHEN][Language]name and version (Build)
For projects, use:
Code:
[PRJ]description
For utilities, use:
Code:
[UTIL]name and version
For requests, use:
Code:
[REQ]description
For questions, use:
Code:
[Q]description
For themes, use:
Code:
[THE]description
For reference threads (tutorials, guides, etc.), use:
Code:
[REF]description
For Rollup threads (thread indexes, etc.), use:
Code:
[ROLLUP]description
For Poll information threads, use:
Code:
[POLL]description
Items from moderators that need special attention will use:
Code:
[MOD]description
Every member of this community is a valuable contributor and it is his/her responsibility to keep this community clean and information in the forums easy to access
Please feel free to contact me madnish30(HTC Elf FORUM MOD) if you want to suggest a change, or have a problem.
Attention devs!
As you probably have experienced first hand, the development forum is getting cluttered with support requests, rom requests, thank you's and whatnot.
Hopefully this will help:
If you create a development thread for your ROM/Kernel/Project/etc, in Infuse Development, also create a Q&A thread on the Q&A forums and link to that Q&A thread in your first post. Also add this, in the same font size and color:
Any questions regarding this ROM/Kernel/Project WILL NOT be answered here. For answers go to: [insert url to Q&A thread here]
Why? Well, if we can manage a development thread to hold ONLY development and technical discussion (as in, bug reports, logs, etc) which will HELP OUT in development, development will be much more efficient and fast.
The Q&A thread will be used for all other discussion.
Simply copy the title of your dev thread to the Q&A forums and add the [Q&A] tag in front of it.
ie: [Q&A][ROM] Neo's Infuse whatever rom 1.0
ATTENTION Devs - [TAGS]
As our Development forum grows, I'd like to ask you to use tags on your thread titles, to make it more uniform and clear. Here are the generally used tags mostly used in other development forums.
[ROM]
To indicate that the thread is in fact a rom. This has to be the first Tag for your title.
[OFFICIAL]
To indicate that the rom is from an Official source. Depending on if the rom is an official one or not, this tag has to come in second.
[LANG] (Not required for English ROMS)
Indicate the language of the rom if it is not English, preferably with 2-4 character mentions. If you carry ROMs with multiple language options, please use the tag [MULTILANG]
[REF]
Reference Threads
[REQ]
Requisition Threads
[TUT]
Tutorial Threads
Additional Tags
[GUIDE]
[DUMP]
[PROJECT]
[HOW TO
Will be moved to Q&A since they come more to their right there.
And remember to post the sources of your Kernels...ALWAYS!!!
We thank you for cooperating with us and for all your hard work & continued support of XDA.
Rules for Development UPDATED
So, you want to post in development? Ask yourself this:
Is what I am going to post a question?
If so, this is not the right place to post a new thread. Instead, use the SEARCH function to find a thread about your question. If that's not available, post your question in General. (Q&A coming soon!)
Am I developing something and want to share it?
If this is the case, Please do! This is the correct forum and you are free to post your ROM/App/Game/Etc, if it is compliant with the next rule:
Is what I am sharing publicly available (free)?
So, no registration needed to download, but more importantly, no charges. If you want to earn money with a ROM/App/Game/Etc. you can, but also put up a free version. We call paid versions like this: "donation" version.
Try to keep the development forum CLEAN! I cannot stress this out more. No offtopic posting and no questions.
Use the report button in an offending post to let us mods know we need to take action. (or just PM me. )
Did I brush my teeth this morning?
Seriously, check that.
All posts that are NOT about ROM development, or development in general will be closed or deleted.
This list may get longer as we progress, but for now, happy posting. Oh, and if you find anything abusive or not following the rules, use the report function in the post.
Thanks!
NeoS2007
Thinking of posting a new thread???
Please read the following
Forum Searching | Posting | The Basics: (Make sure you've read them before starting a new thread)
Forum Rules - http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=642
Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Google Forum Search - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304582
Advanced Searching - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=How to use Advanced Search on XDA-Developers Forum
XDA "Mantra" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
A Solid XDA Post to Read- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM/Kernel/Device development activity. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM/Kernel/Device Hack/Mod, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing?... If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
*Posting outside these guidelines will find the thread moved, deleted, or locked depending on the situation.
While I recognize that the idea behind the new member policy is sound, restricting new users from having meaningful interaction with ROM developers that has any chance of being seen is rather counterproductive. The message here is effectively go post 10 useless filler posts in some forum you can post to and then you can go back to the thread you had something useful to contribute to. Sure there is a wealth of information available to search but a specific aspect of a particular ROM on a particular device has no more effective home. A ROM developer for one ROM on a single device is not going to have the time to find a post in general forums to even read it let alone respond in the wrong thread to answer the person. This forum is too big for this type of policy to be effective and meaningful in my opinion.
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The 10 post rule does several things. One of the most important things it does is keep commercial spam (especially spambots) out of the development forums. The DEV forums are really the heart of xda, so it makes sense to try and keep the spam far far away. The DEV forums really are for Development, so it also makes sense to give new users time to get acclimatized to what that really means and what is expected from their posts. The extra time also helps them to find their way on xda, because it just keeps getting larger.
Seriously, in the absence of the 10 post rule, the Dev forums would be full of offers for Louis Vuitton Bags, questions in the wrong place, questions that a few seconds of searching would give many many answers, bazzillions of "Thank You" posts, etc.
The answer is not to rush around and make 10 useless posts in the other forums, that is just making the problem worse. There are a lot of useful ways that allow you to get your 10 posts relatively quickly...and like most things on xda, there are already guides for this
10 post guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
New Users guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450