Hi all,
Do you know a way to enable back the original WM keyboard ? I really miss it because of the gesture settings for shift, backspace, space and and enter keys!
Or do you know a way to enable gesture settings in HTC keyboard ?
Thank you.
Yes and I want wm Keyboard ... please help !!! THX.
the same problem
about 5 hours in active search and with no results
does anybody knows it is possible to take native kbd files from wm 6.1?
I'm wanting to test some keyboards before I buy, not sure what the original win mo one is like or how to get it, but imagine it would be quite hard.
Can anyone PM me some links to get some keyboards to try, like Resco etc? Sorry for hijacking!
In sk-tools I have seen under "Eingabemethoden" (= should input method or something simelar) that the standard WM keyboards are just deactivated.
So you can give it a try with sk-tools and reactivate whatever you want.
I will not try it for you because so far my HD is running fine and I want to wait with the next hard reste for the next rom ...
Best regards,
dingolino
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi all,
Do you know a way to enable back the original WM keyboard ? I really miss it because of the gesture settings for shift, backspace, space and and enter keys!
Or do you know a way to enable gesture settings in HTC keyboard ?
Thank you.
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Thank you dingolino you are right, the keyboard is still there but hidden or may I say quite buried by HTC
I don't have the registered version of skTools so I browsed the web to try to find a way to enable it back :
First I tried to enable it in registery : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4990566&postcount=3
But it wasn't enough ...
So then I tried SIP Change which allows to force to display the keyboard But the little arrow that allows to choose the keyboard still doesn't display the keyboard in the list So for now I have to launch SIP Change each time I want to choose the standard WM Keyboard (which BTW is surprisingly good and finger friendly enough if you enable gestures )
So the last thing I miss is some hack to remove the s*cking uhh I mean HTC "customized" little arrow at the right of the keyboard to display a menu with all the keyboards installed and also the settings for each keyboard. I tried to wander as discussed it the following post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482910 but for now I didn't found a solution that works.
So if someone have a solution to disable the "HTC customized little arrow" and replace it by the standard one please share it with us
Cheers,
Nibbler.
Hello! Colemak typist here.
Can you change the layout of the keyboard? I don't mind about the physical layout, just the software mapping. I have no idea how he keyboard is handled so could someone kindly work out if this is possible? And if Colemak is available?
Thanks!
Nobody with a keyboard who can quickly check this out for me?
If you don't get a reply shout me tonight and ill give it a go.
hmmmm. cant see anything that allows keyboard remapping in the settings.... which is a shame as my @ and " are not as per the layout ... which is odd .....
Could always try button remapper beta off the market. I don't know if it will work on the dock keyboard but I could remap some of the keys using a usb keyboard on my viewsonic g tab. Something to try at least.
kiz said:
Hello! Colemak typist here.
Can you change the layout of the keyboard? I don't mind about the physical layout, just the software mapping. I have no idea how he keyboard is handled so could someone kindly work out if this is possible? And if Colemak is available?
Thanks!
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One way to do it is go to this website to get a general idea about remapping. Then download the KeyTest.apk from the author.
When you start the app you can see which scancodes are created. Now go to /system/usr/keylayout (most likely requires root) and change the keyboard layout that is associated with your keyboard. If you don't know, download aLogCat from the market. When you connect a keyboard it will show up in the log. For special characters and shortcuts modify the appropriate keychar table in /system/usr/keychars.
Hope that helps. It worked on my XOOM for a generic BT keyboard that had lots of Apple keys.
Wonderful. Thankyou all for your helpful posts! Very glad to know there is a way to do this, even if it is not an official option.
Thanks again.
wilbur-force said:
hmmmm. cant see anything that allows keyboard remapping in the settings.... which is a shame as my @ and " are not as per the layout ... which is odd .....
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You need to change the software keyboard to the ASUS one in order to get correct layout on dock keyboard.
As a follow up post - I got a transformer with dock. Downgraded to 8.2.3.9, rooted and found the keyboard layout in /usr/xt9/keylayout/qwerty-en_GB.kl. I edited by hand (thankfully it's a lovely human readable text file) and now am enjoying colemak! Woot!
I might write a little how-to so that anyone can do it quickly and easily.
Hello everyone,
I recently purchased a HTC 7 Pro online, but when I received it, I found out that it was the German version, with the Z and the Y keys switched, compared to normal QWERTY keyboards. I am able to set the software keyboard to QWERTY, but no matter what language options I have selected, the hardware keyboard seems to follow the QWERTZ pattern. Is there any way to reset the hardware keyboard so that it follows the QWERTY pattern?
I would also like to know how to change this, I bought my HTC 7 Pro from "Media Markt" in Germany, and I have the same problem.
But I'm not sure if it's a good idea to do so, because even if I did change the Keyboard Layout from the software side, the hardware will still be QWERTZ, so what I press will not be what appears on the screen :S
BTW the differences between US QWERTY and German QWERTZ isn't just the Y and Z keys, other differences include:
( and ) are at 8 and 9 istead of 9 and 0
& is at 6 not 7
* is at 7 not 8
the semi-colon (drove me crazy when coding at the university there)
and a lot of other punctuation were moved away to other buttons to clear for the "umlauts" and stuff :S
Guys, I had the same problem, I bought QWERTZ device and I was frustrated.
I used the 7-day return policy of the reseller and returned the QWERTZ device.
Later I bought QWERTY device.
By the way this is valid for the QWERTY device too:
( and ) are at 8 and 9 istead of 9 and 0
& is at 6 not 7
* is at 7 not 8
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I couldn't have bought another one, because I was in Germany and I don't think they have anything with a QWERTY keboard there :S
It's weird that eventhe QWERTY keyboard on the phone also had some of the symbols mixed up, because German PC Keyboards also had the brackets at a different place that the US PC Keyboards, so I thought that's a QWERTZ thing too, maybe your phone has a UK Keyboard layout?
edit: apparently also UK Keyboards have the ( and ) at 9 and 0, not at 8 and 9.
It's not about certain layout, there's just not enough space for all the buttons, That's why they are mixed and the layout is not like a PC keyboard.
Nevertheless, this smartphone has one of the best hardware keyboards in the smartphones world.
It's nice to know that my first Smartphone has the best Keyboard (I'm assuming that you don't consider the early Symbian S60 devices as smartphones )
Anyways back on topic, is there somebody who can replace my hardware keyboard with a QWERTY one, so then I can change it from the software side too (whether via a Registry hack, or installing another ROM), so that way I can have a keyboard that I can type on without having to look before typing any word that has a Y or a Z ? :S
I have this issue too. Any solution?
The solution is get used to it. I have a QWERTZ device purely because it's much cheaper for some reason. It's no big issue after 5 mins or so.
Zes, in using zour solution too ;-)
Sent from my HTC 7 Pro using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Hello everyone.
My goal is rather more difficult than yours (I try to replace original german layout with the russian one), however I found out something interesting:
In
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\MTFKeyboardMappings
there are keys for different languages with the values of hardware and soft keyboard. In my case for all the languages the value of hardware keyboard is:
804c72d2-b3a3-4f96-a568-eb8775eb4b97
However, direct change of this entry with the value of the soft keyboard doesn't work.
Can anyone publish this value p.e. for QWERTY layout to check?
And any ideas about what does 804c72d2-b3a3-4f96-a568-eb8775eb4b97 refer to, I mean, is it link to the file or language code or whatever?
Sorry, if I discover something stupid, but I can't find any information about this area of registry.
(HTC 7 PRO DFT v2)
Hi everybody. Same situation here. I would add, if this QWERTZ to QWERTY issue could be solved without any ROM installation (crazy? lazy?) I would be the happiest phoner for a while. Cheers.
zebraman said:
Hello everyone.
My goal is rather more difficult than yours (I try to replace original german layout with the russian one), however I found out something interesting:
In
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\MTFKeyboardMappings
there are keys for different languages with the values of hardware and soft keyboard. In my case for all the languages the value of hardware keyboard is:
804c72d2-b3a3-4f96-a568-eb8775eb4b97
However, direct change of this entry with the value of the soft keyboard doesn't work.
Can anyone publish this value p.e. for QWERTY layout to check?
And any ideas about what does 804c72d2-b3a3-4f96-a568-eb8775eb4b97 refer to, I mean, is it link to the file or language code or whatever?
Sorry, if I discover something stupid, but I can't find any information about this area of registry.
(HTC 7 PRO DFT v2)
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See and try change "AccentTable" and "KeyTable" keys in path "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\MTFInputType\{804c72d2-b3a3-4f96-a568-eb8775eb4b97}"
I mean it is UTFxx unicode. May be somebody known TouchPro/TouchPro2 can help us to recognize buttons order in this key.
Hi,
with DFT rom v2/v3 no problem on HTC 7 pro, works perfect Y/Z and with my special characters (óőűá etc.)
poker100 said:
Hi,
with DFT rom v2/v3 no problem on HTC 7 pro, works perfect Y/Z and with my special characters (óőűá etc.)
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Can you write more? Is necessary to edit registry keys manually in registry editor? What is your sequences for Y/Z changing? Or, is it possible only by any file changing/editing? M.
Martin7Pro said:
AkcentTable:
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KeyTable:
00-00-20-00-83-02-63-00-61-02-76-00-43-02-62-00-59-02-6E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-71-00-92-01-77-00-CF-01-65-00-F7-01-61-00-82-02-73-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-77-00-06-01-71-00-54-01-65-00-07-02-61-00-5C-02-73-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-65-00-12-01-77-00-54-01-72-00-3B-02-73-00-5B-02-64-00-F6-02-66-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-72-00-2C-01-65-00-23-01-74-00-4C-02-64-00-CE-02-66-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-74-00-1C-01-72-00-45-01-79-00-5C-02-66-00-C1-02-67-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-79-00-2C-01-74-00-46-01-75-00-51-02-67-00-28-02-68-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-75-00-48-01-79-00-16-01-69-00-9D-02-68-00-58-02-6A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-69-00-34-01-75-00-15-01-6F-00-41-03-6A-00-8D-02-6B-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6F-00-4A-01-69-00-0A-01-70-00-50-02-6B-00-7C-02-6C-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-70-00-AD-01-6F-00-EE-01-6C-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-61-00-02-02-71-00-47-02-77-00-EF-01-73-00-24-02-64-00-AE-02-7A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-73-00-80-02-77-00-05-02-65-00-B9-00-61-00-98-01-64-00-F9-01-7A-00-B8-02-78-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-64-00-EA-01-65-00-64-02-72-00-FC-00-73-00-5A-01-66-00-C0-02-7A-00-43-02-78-00-97-02-63-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-66-00-31-02-72-00-8D-02-74-00-1D-01-64-00-58-01-67-00-31-02-63-00-D2-02-76-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-67-00-90-02-74-00-1B-01-66-00-29-01-68-00-90-02-63-00-12-02-76-00-4A-02-62-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-68-00-06-03-79-00-44-02-75-00-6A-01-67-00-0C-01-6A-00-66-02-76-00-FF-01-62-00-2B-02-6E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6A-00-47-02-75-00-47-02-69-00-B1-01-68-00-FA-00-6B-00-8D-02-6E-00-47-02-6D-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6B-00-BB-02-69-00-F9-01-6F-00-67-01-6A-00-F0-00-6C-00-76-02-6E-00-08-02-6D-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6C-00-25-02-6F-00-F0-01-70-00-FC-01-6B-00-9D-02-6D-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-7A-00-94-01-61-00-CC-01-73-00-94-01-64-00-67-01-78-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-78-00-3D-02-73-00-FB-00-7A-00-48-01-63-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-63-00-B0-02-64-00-F5-02-66-00-6B-02-67-00-2B-01-78-00-2F-01-76-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-76-00-AB-02-66-00-18-01-63-00-28-01-62-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-62-00-B1-02-67-00-6C-02-68-00-B1-02-6A-00-8B-01-76-00-0B-01-6E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6E-00-E8-02-68-00-A3-02-6A-00-E8-02-6B-00-56-01-62-00-F7-00-6D-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-6D-00-92-02-6A-00-24-02-6B-00-07-02-6C-00-34-01-6E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-2C-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-20-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-2E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
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Do you understand it somebody? Can you explain?
KeyTable
It looks as four-bytes unicode sequences, ended by four-zeroes stop sequence. Do you know anybody more? Can you see in registry editor, if it is DFT ROM property only, or standard WP7 hardware keyboard feature? I mean keys replacing by first post can change full language keyboard to another, but changing z/y only must be realized by this long sequences analysing and changing.
Hi, i'm using now DFT V3 on HTC 7 pro QWERTZ version. (hungarian language) Character layout original, no need registry edit or other hack. HW keyboard works fine on hungarian setting. All characters and other symbols are OK. DFT V3 rom is perfect.
poker100 said:
Hi, i'm using now DFT V3 on HTC 7 pro QWERTZ version. (hungarian language) Character layout original, no need registry edit or other hack. HW keyboard works fine on hungarian setting. All characters and other symbols are OK. DFT V3 rom is perfect.
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OK, you are happy. We (Czech people) have a problem - two usual keyboard layouts. Much people uses QWERTZ, but programmers and technicians uses usually QWERTY, which is not supported by WP7 Microsoft features. Then we must make any hack.
Hey, what kind of rom use you?
poker100 said:
Hey, what kind of rom use you?
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The same as you, DFT V3 on HTC 7 pro QWERTZ version.