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I have had a Samsung Intercept from Virgin Mobile for about 3-4 months. I have no screen protection on it, have had it in my pocket with keys, cleaned it with normal cloths and shirt, and the screen has yet to get one scratch on it. My Nexus S will be arriving tomorrow... Is the glass on it the same or will I need to protect it?
It is not the same glass used in the Intercept. I believe the Intercept uses Gorilla Glass, while the Nexus S uses regular glass for some reason. It'll probably be as good as Gorilla Glass as long as you aren't keeping it in your toolbox
I'd be more worried about the battery cover scratching.
I don't know Samsung Intercept, but Nexus S does not use Gorilla Glass screen. So it can be easily scratched with a single fingernail move. My Nexus S scratched in its 4th day.
I also have got a HTC HD2 which has a GorillaGlass screen. I've been using it for 8 months and screen is still perfect like its first day.
So take care of your Nexus S.
Word on the street is that Samsung avoided using the Gorilla glass because Corning (makers of Gorilla Glass) would not guarantee the glass strength of the curved shape of the NS...
Plain laminated glass with an oleophobic coating was used, resulting in a screen thats pretty easily scratched . Within the first 10 minutes of receiving my NS, I lightly scratched my NS screen while cleaning it with a soft cloth, to install a screen protector on it (FFS!)
There are some people experiencing defects in the oleophobic (oil resistant) coating on it after a few days of use too.
So.. in a nut shell - GET a protector on it!
I will say this, my phone survived a fall from about 6 feet and not a scratch or crack in the glass. Long story short, don't use your phone as a level, use a real level when hanging stuff on walls.
Intercepts don't use Gorilla Glass nor does the Nexus S, but the Intercept is also a lower mid range phone that can sort of take a beating. Mine won't charge while on any longer because of an infant and general use, but yes you should always use a screen protector.
xmRipper said:
I don't know Samsung Intercept, but Nexus S does not use Gorilla Glass screen. So it can be easily scratched with a single fingernail move. My Nexus S scratched in its 4th day.
I also have got a HTC HD2 which has a GorillaGlass screen. I've been using it for 8 months and screen is still perfect like its first day.
So take care of your Nexus S.
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Your nails must be made of adamantium.
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I am almost convinced that I am getting the HTC One XL when it is released by AT&T. I am thinking about how hard the unibody polycarbonate construction is? Do we still need a case? I hate the additional bulk.
I am almost convinced that with gorilla glass 2, I do not want any screen protector. Whenever I have used the screen protector, I hate the "tacky" feeling of touching plastic on the screen.
What are your thoughts?
Osho
i never use screen protectors, i hate the way they look. the most i ever do is put a rubber or soft case on, just to absorb a drop. but then, i'm pretty decent with my phones.
I never use screen protectors either. When it comes to a case, I usually use something really light like the Incipio Feather. The One X looks like it has good grip and doesn't seem to scratch easily (screen and case), so I think I will go completely naked with this one!
oshogg said:
I am almost convinced that I am getting the HTC One XL when it is released by AT&T. I am thinking about how hard the unibody polycarbonate construction is? Do we still need a case? I hate the additional bulk.
I am almost convinced that with gorilla glass 2, I do not want any screen protector. Whenever I have used the screen protector, I hate the "tacky" feeling of touching plastic on the screen.
What are your thoughts?
Osho
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Polycarbonate is strong, but it is not invincible. Dropping onto gravel/concrete/asphalt will likely mar the finish. Same goes to gorilla glass. Screen protectors will save your phone from gorilla glass getting marred/scratched, but not much else. Cases will protect the phone from significant damage like drops onto concrete (assuming there are no sharp rocks to contact the screen), and likely stop much of the cosmetic damage from lesser drops.
I'd still recommend both, but if you don't need to worry about either, then go naked.
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM
All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.
no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
frankgreimes said:
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone
i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE
The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.
bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....
We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.
Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...
Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.
I have an Incipio clear case on right now. It makes my glass screen protector pop off. So that's off for now.
I'm on my second PH-1 after a very minor fall cracked the screen on my first. (It was naked) But I had dropped it a couple of times.
Here's the thing, the back and sides were completely unscathed. The screen chipped a tiny bit on the corner on the first fall and then cracked across it with some shattering in the corner on another (from about a 1.5' fall from pocket to concrete when I was sitting on a bench).
With just a glass screen protector, you can hardly even tell it's on there (aka the phone still looks great). It also seems like with a good positioning, the SP or the plastic surround would make the first contact on any fall (given a relatively flat surface with no protrusions), thus protecting the screen. Aesthetically, I would love to get away with just the SP. I don't like casing this phone.
On the other hand, most cases are designed to also make first contact on a fall via a lip around the screen, etc. (The point of conflict with the SPs). So it would seem that a case alone should provide protection against screen shattering in most mundane falls also (again, barring protrusions).
So, what is your experience? Does anyone go screen protector only? Or case only? Have you had a screen break with either?
I have the incipio as well and go without a screen protector. I also have a belt holster to protect the phone from falling out my pocket. I am very anal with phones and have not dropped this one or my prior Android phones (I've dropped my Lumia 920 once but that just had a dent in the plastic housing). I've seen that video in which somebody tested the PH-1 with falls from different heights and know that the first thing that will break on it will be the screen under the right conditions. The rest of the phone is rock solid. That might be one problem that leads to cracks when it falls onto the corners (no dampening and direct energy transfer to the glass). I don't think a screen protector will do much in that case either.
that's my experience.
I'm totally enjoying this phone
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I've just been using a screen protector and fitBAG leather sleeve. The Halo Gray has soft touch texture on the ceramic which makes it easier to grips than the shiny colors.
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