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Not sure why, but most of the apps I have are auto-starting after every reboot. Most of them are apps that are on the desktop. Any idea why? I'd have to go into TaskPanel to close them all individually. Gets kinda old.

naziroo said:
Not sure why, but most of the apps I have are auto-starting after every reboot. Most of them are apps that are on the desktop. Any idea why? I'd have to go into TaskPanel to close them all individually. Gets kinda old.
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Widgets are supposed to be running, that's what they do.

All apps that have a listen function for phone events start on bootup, some go to sleep others stay awake, which does which depends on the use of the app and the dev who coded it.

Also, you shouldn't be using a task killer on Android. Head over to geekfor.me to read the article about why.

abcdfv said:
Also, you shouldn't be using a task killer on Android. Head over to geekfor.me to read the article about why.
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The article in question. A must read.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/

Wow! Thanks a lot for the amazing input! I keep killing tasks because my Hero gets sluggish at times...

Yep, once I stopped killing apps and started using ttg 1.6 I am completely satisfied with the speed of my phone. It wasn't until I used fresh that even noticed an increase in speed, and after switching to ttg 1.6 I couldn't believe the results.

There is the location services bug that will slow your phone down and eat your battery

flexgrip said:
Yep, once I stopped killing apps and started using ttg 1.6 I am completely satisfied with the speed of my phone. It wasn't until I used fresh that even noticed an increase in speed, and after switching to ttg 1.6 I couldn't believe the results.
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Completely agree.
Went Fresh --> Modaco --> TTG 0.16
Phone is flying.

abcdfv said:
There is the location services bug that will slow your phone down and eat your battery
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Which no one has proven affects our Hero.

posguy99 said:
Which no one has proven affects our Hero.
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It's the HTC location service bug. Id say it effect the hero

abcdfv said:
It's the HTC location service bug. Id say it effect the hero
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No, it's a bug described as being present in the Android 1.5 location service, which was rewritten for Android 1.6 and later. Removing a HTC-specific piece of software doesn't do anything to change what lies underneath.
Someone randomly renaming it the "HTC location service bug" doesn't make it so either.
I've read the bug report, you see. You can too. It's all about a flawed piece of *Google's* code.
No one's tested, we just have random people falling all over themselves to blame something because their battery decreases .001% faster than they think it should. The one person who did any testing at all (flipz) pointed out that he didn't have any valid data.
Maybe there is a fault. I don't know. I have location services enabled, don't see the 100% CPU people claim, don't see the sub 3 hour battery life people claim.
So until someone shows our Hero has the runaway problem described in the bug report... it ain't so.

I wanted to know if anyone knew why apps like Sprint Navigation, Sprint Voicemail, and the stock text messenger all start up when I send a text with Handcent, I never use Sprint Navigation because of Google Maps same with Sprint Voicemail because of Google Voice, I know the Stock message app still has a little to do with messages but it lacks a lot of the customization that Handcent has

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I wanted to know if anyone knew why apps like Sprint Navigation, Sprint Voicemail, and the stock text messenger all start up
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This is why you read the article linked in this thread.

[Q] stop google maps, and keep it dead

Figured this was a general Android app problem. And in case it matters, I'm running an HTC EVO Shift with stock room and rooted.
My problem, and this has been so since day one but its gotten to the point of bugging me too much, is that google maps will constantly run. i can kill it using taskiller, but it'll just come back after a few minutes. and normally with more than one copy. i do use it a lot which is why i don't just flat out delete it off my phone. however, it'll auto run its self without me doing anything.
for example. i can hit the kill all button (i've hidden the system apps) and it'll kill everything off and be fine and dandy. give it about 5 minutes and during which i don't even touch my phone, and when i refresh taskiller, maps is running again and is the only thing running, and their may be more than one copy of it running (aka more than one icon with the name "maps" under it).
so short of uninstalling it, how does one go about making it stop and stay stopped till i run it again? is there some program that's starting it? how do i find and destroy it? And yes i'm fairly certain its not latitude. i've never even run that program once. personally, i'd like to just uninstall it, but don't see it under titanium backup any where's. is it embedded in google maps or something?

When you buy a phone you should 1st do some research about it's OS, how it handles memory and all that. You don't even deserve an answer you know that?

Why are you so obsessed with killing Google Maps?
If your phone works fine I don't see the problem. Android handles process killing by itself when needed. Task killing in Android is a bad reflex. Android doesn't work like WM.

Hello Viper,
I played around with this for a little while, and here is what I came up with for ideas:
1. You have the 'Let Google use my location' enabled. Settings -> Location and security -> Use Wireless networks
2. You have some app that is tied to Google Maps, maybe not Latitude, but something.
I also have Latitude, but I found that if I leave the 'my location' setting unchecked, Google Maps stays away. Once Maps once, though, it is there until I reboot.
p.s. You deserve an answer. I can't figure out why people who don't even have the answer go out of their way to point out that they don't like your question.

If you really want to kill map uninstall it or use titanium backup to freeze it.

purline said:
Hello Viper,
I played around with this for a little while, and here is what I came up with for ideas:
1. You have the 'Let Google use my location' enabled. Settings -> Location and security -> Use Wireless networks
2. You have some app that is tied to Google Maps, maybe not Latitude, but something.
I also have Latitude, but I found that if I leave the 'my location' setting unchecked, Google Maps stays away. Once Maps once, though, it is there until I reboot.
p.s. You deserve an answer. I can't figure out why people who don't even have the answer go out of their way to point out that they don't like your question.
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What he said. Had Same problem on my inspire. Latitude killed my battery.

I read from some where that Google Apps use Google Map to check android phone's location.

viperv303 said:
Figured this was a general Android app problem. And in case it matters, I'm running an HTC EVO Shift with stock room and rooted.
My problem, and this has been so since day one but its gotten to the point of bugging me too much, is that google maps will constantly run. i can kill it using taskiller, but it'll just come back after a few minutes. and normally with more than one copy. i do use it a lot which is why i don't just flat out delete it off my phone. however, it'll auto run its self without me doing anything.
for example. i can hit the kill all button (i've hidden the system apps) and it'll kill everything off and be fine and dandy. give it about 5 minutes and during which i don't even touch my phone, and when i refresh taskiller, maps is running again and is the only thing running, and their may be more than one copy of it running (aka more than one icon with the name "maps" under it).
so short of uninstalling it, how does one go about making it stop and stay stopped till i run it again? is there some program that's starting it? how do i find and destroy it? And yes i'm fairly certain its not latitude. i've never even run that program once. personally, i'd like to just uninstall it, but don't see it under titanium backup any where's. is it embedded in google maps or something?
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Helo...i am x Android fan boy...there is an option in settings, kill task or process until I start it again manually or something...don't have an Android device anymore so you will have to figure it yourself...anyways...but the option is definitely there, used it myself a few times...
And yes, you DO deserve an answer...people who criticize should be banned IMHO. Anyways...hope I helped...

missparker76 said:
Why are you so obsessed with killing Google Maps?
If your phone works fine I don't see the problem. Android handles process killing by itself when needed. Task killing in Android is a bad reflex. Android doesn't work like WM.
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Google Maps can prefetch map data when you're not using the app, so it keeps burning battery power and data in the background.
You can disable prefetching and switch off network location, but then you'd have to switch it back on everytime you need it. In some scenarios killing the maps app makes more sense.

In android you DONT kill apps/process's/services unless there is a problem with the app itself.
There is no point in using a task killer unless you want to waste your battery for some reason. That is why you do not deserve a answer.

Instead of being a jerk, you could have just avoided the thread. And, pretty much, there's no use killing it. If you're rooted, you can use titanium backup to freeze and unfreeze when you want to use it, but apart from that, inorder to avoid problems, just let it be.
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I have latitude and trust me, im feeling the pain lol. Latitude is raping my battery at the expense of keeping my gf happy.
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Go to Settings > Location. Uncheck GPS and wireless networks. It should be good enough to not run constantly. BTW, task killers are bad. Who ever thought it would be a good idea to have on Android is stupid and who ever installs a task killer is stupid too.

Wow...people need to learn how to stop trolling. You dont think they deserve an answer then dont waste your time replying. The title was self explanitory and could have been skipped by the xda gods if they didnt seem fit for their level.
OP, I would keep an eye on the battery use and if you see it there then worry about killing it somehow. If not then it is not doing you any harm. Your not in windows aymore. Lol

Unchecked network location, switched off map prefetching, disabled auto updating, but when I rebooted Google Maps still started all by itself to download a few megabytes of data.
Task killers are a waste of time for most apps, but Google Maps is an exception. Google Maps is really a misbehaving app that needs to be tought who's boss.

i thought this was supposed to be a help site
lvnatic said:
When you buy a phone you should 1st do some research about it's OS, how it handles memory and all that. You don't even deserve an answer you know that?
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Why do you guys act like asses on here? You were asked a question. If you've no desire to help, keep you mouth shut. I came here looking for the same answer and I find vitriol. And for the record, at night I like to play games and could give a poo about the maps. The maps, however, cause the game to stutter. Pain in the rear. So in conclusion, thanks to those of you trying to help. And the others, regardless of how 'senior' your member may be, can keep you hating to yourselves.

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Why do you guys act like asses on here? You were asked a question. If you've no desire to help, keep you mouth shut. I came here looking for the same answer and I find vitriol. And for the record, at night I like to play games and could give a poo about the maps. The maps, however, cause the game to stutter. Pain in the rear. So in conclusion, thanks to those of you trying to help. And the others, regardless of how 'senior' your member may be, can keep you hating to yourselves.
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amen to that

If the OP doesn't want to use the memory in his phone, that he paid for, could he remove it and send it to me?
I could always use some more!

supernugget said:
Why do you guys act like asses on here? You were asked a question. If you've no desire to help, keep you mouth shut. I came here looking for the same answer and I find vitriol. And for the record, at night I like to play games and could give a poo about the maps. The maps, however, cause the game to stutter. Pain in the rear. So in conclusion, thanks to those of you trying to help. And the others, regardless of how 'senior' your member may be, can keep you hating to yourselves.
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I couldnt agree more!!!
Ive noticed in the short time ive been on this forum that theres ALOT of pricks in here, that makes the atmosphere really bad.
Not all are retards just because a question is "stupid"
Actually, there are no such things than stupid questions, if no one asks, no one will ever learn, so please show some respect for the people whos not as superinteligent as you are...
Sorry, had to get it out
I do also notice the battery is draining fast on my Samsung S3, and on top of the consuming list is Google maps, and considerably a lot more than the next one on the list, so i too would love to stop that Google map unless its VERY important for the phone to work normally...

[Q] how do you close apps?

so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.

What you are asking isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned. There is no other way to close applications other than using the force close button in settings. Android handles this itself -- if this doesn't satisfy you download a task manager.

I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.

modru2004 said:
so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
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There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.

I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?

atoy74 said:
There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
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id like to point out thats NOT the issue.
the issue is the ton of windows you end up having to sort through unless you close them. its a quality of life thing, i don't like having unused unnecessary windows open that i have to sort through to get to the stuff i am using. its just bad form.

foldog22 said:
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
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It will most likely not work until its rewritten. The way 2.2 and now 3.0 allow access is completely different then 2.1 and below. Plus as said about 200 million task there is 0 reason to run a task killer. If you wanna clear them out, even though there is 0 reason, reboot.

Okay, I get the memory management issue, but as the OP pointed out, I've got all sorts of icons in the "task bar area" (bottom right hand corner) that just sit there or keep coming back.
For example, I haven't listened to any music on my Xoom since yesterday morning, yet I've got an icon down there for Music and Rhapsody. Also, there's no way to clear some notifications.
There's got to be a way to at least clear out the notification isn't there?

you tap on the little icon music for example and you will see a little x on the right of it, click that and it closes it from the notification system

There is absolutely no reason to use a task killer or manually kill tasks. 2.2, 2.3, 3.0, etc. handle memory and tasks extremely well. In many cases, task killers will only cost you more battery and more slowdowns than letting tasks just run out and sit in memory. Unless you're seeing rogue or malfunctioning tasks in the background causing slowdowns, there is no need to kill them.
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.

arrtoodeetoo said:
I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
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While I haven't used a task manager since I started learning how android actually works last year when starting to make apps, I can't help but want the same thing in honeycomb for malfunctioning apps. I think google left it out intentionally to discourage task-killing rampages by oblivious users.

Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.

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Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Which is exactly why in my first post I said "...isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned" otherwise such a thing is barely necessary. And in your case, the classic "Settings > ....... > Force Close" would have easily sufficed.

So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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martonikaj said:
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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Oddly enough, if you turn to portrait, you get a few more. So, technically its not a hard limit on 5, but rather (literally) limited by space on the screen.
Anyone want to place a bet as to what rev we see scrollability?
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JanetPanic said:
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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bwcorvus said:
If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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I did and it worked. As I said it would be nice to have a more convenient way of force stopping apps that are not behaving.
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Closing apps isn't necessary for two reasons.
1. Android does a good job at managing apps on its own.
2. You have 1GB of RAM to work with.
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Watchdog does a considerable job since it only lets you know when an app is misbehaving. And since being on 2.3 its barely given me any alerts. Perhaps further proving the awesome memory management.
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2.21.401.10 and still multitasking issue?

So, I've heard the new update 2.21.401.10 still has the well known limited multitasking issues (see YT videos for One X, it's the same for us: http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...0.0.0.119.352.3j1.4.0...0.0...1ac.R68YKWQ8QnE )?? Is it true? How can we persuade HTC to keep standard Android multitasking?
I've also heard the audio issues (crackles, trashed sounds, some micro-stutters sound-related. You can easily notice this with games, f.e. Pinball Arcade or Mame4Droid etc. Won't hear these problems on GS2 and other Android phones) are still there too, so the audio driver is still the same.
Should I go back to GS2? Multitasking problem is very important for me...

I don't have issues with sound now, never have. A lot of games ether aren't compatible completely (gta 3), and others are just trash audio. If you want to test audio run a GOOD mp3 file, if it crackles its your phone....
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the multitasking of the one X and S isnt' bugged, it is in this way for a choice of HTC. Basically the system doesn't left completly open apps but it freeze them which is almost the same of restart the app from zero more or less. This is because HTC want to keep some resources free to have a more fluid sense experience.
Anyway if you have an unlocked device you can flash this script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27318828#post27318828 that should give you real multitasking and leave the cool HTC interface ( the task manager ) to swith from an app to another. I would try it but I don't want to unlock my device at the moment.

none of the scripts work. wait till developers will fix it on kernel level. no other solutions here.
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hexaae said:
So, I've heard the new update 2.21.401.10 still has the well known limited multitasking issues (see YT videos for One X, it's the same for us: )?? Is it true? How can we persuade HTC to keep standard Android multitasking?
I've also heard the audio issues (crackles, trashed sounds, some micro-stutters sound-related. You can easily notice this with games, f.e. Pinball Arcade or Mame4Droid etc. Won't hear these problems on GS2 and other Android phones) are still there too, so the audio driver is still the same.
Should I go back to GS2? Multitasking problem is very important for me...
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I agree with hexaae. It's worth nothing having a super-fluid UI if it means killing your opened browser when you try to live it in background. You just can't browse between browser and email: how is this supposed to be called multitasking??
I really believe this choice of HTC's is senseless... On a smartphone with 1GB of RAM...
Edit1: by the way, what is the "background processes limit" option in "development options" supposed to do? Possible values are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, default.
Edit2: would it be an idea to make a poll and see how many people would be interested in this?

mannequin said:
none of the scripts work. wait till developers will fix it on kernel level. no other solutions here.
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why do you say that it doesn't work? On the thread some guys has reported that it works!

light_n_roses said:
why do you say that it doesn't work? On the thread some guys has reported that it works!
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It worked for me, problem was the battery started draining like crazy. Which got me thinking, the reason HTC did this was battery life. Nothing else. Sense was still just as smooth for me, but apps would multi task like I used to, but my battery would last less than half as long. So I went back to stock and am getting decent battle life again.
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MadJoe said:
It worked for me, problem was the battery started draining like crazy. Which got me thinking, the reason HTC did this was battery life. Nothing else. Sense was still just as smooth for me, but apps would multi task like I used to, but my battery would last less than half as long. So I went back to stock and am getting decent battle life again.
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Well this is quite natural, you should manually clear everything once that you put the phone on stand-by ( and here the cool HTC task manager interface lack of a " close all" button ) or if you don't want to do this you can put task killer widget on the home that kill everything by a tap. Anyway this would kill also the background process not started by you which is not good so HTC should really put a "close everything" button on task manager interface so we can kill just recent apps opened by the user and not from the system.
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it works for about "10 minutes". all script "fixes" are nothing more than a placebo.

mannequin said:
it works for about "10 minutes". all script "fixes" are nothing more than a placebo.
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That is not true. Yes, the multitasking is not stock quality... but the scripts do have a noticeable effect that improves performance (assuming you have enough free memory).

mannequin said:
it works for about "10 minutes". all script "fixes" are nothing more than a placebo.
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this shouldn't be a script ment to improove performance, this should be something that it works or not, an off/on ...

light_n_roses said:
Well this is quite natural, you should manually clear everything once that you put the phone on stand-by ( and here the cool HTC task manager interface lack of a " close all" button ) or if you don't want to do this you can put task killer widget on the home that kill everything by a tap. Anyway this would kill also the background process not started by you which is not good so HTC should really put a "close everything" button on task manager interface so we can kill just recent apps opened by the user and not from the system.
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It lacks the close all option because it is not needed. You dont have to close any apps unless they are something that need to be operating all the time like music player when it is playing songs or navigator and stuff like that. There is no difference for your batterylife whether you clear the "recent apps" list or not. And its called "recent apps" for a reason because it means that it has nothing to do with the fact is that application actually running or not. It has always being like that in android. It just makes it easier to jump between apps.
Using task killers and such only increases battery usage since the app it has closed needs to be loaded again when you use it the next time instead of it being just unfreezed from the memory.
HTC has set the automatic killer which kills apps on the background when running out of memory way too aggressive when you compare that to how it works on vanilla ICS or even older HTC phones running android 2.2 or 2.3.
However the latest update made multitask way better for One S. And Iam talking about the one which updatet android version to 4.0.4. Now you can jump between many apps without the fear of them closing immediately so Iam very happy with that now and it works as its should be.

Paqu1 said:
However the latest update made multitask way better for One S. And Iam talking about the one which updatet android version to 4.0.4. Now you can jump between many apps without the fear of them closing immediately so Iam very happy with that now and it works as its should be.
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I've read comments by users who installed latest update and still have the limited multitasking issue (I'm waiting for the OTA update in Italy). Are you saying instead this has been "fixed"...?

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hexaae said:
I've read comments by users who installed latest update and still have the limited multitasking issue (I'm waiting for the OTA update in Italy). Are you saying instead this has been "fixed"...?
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Well its working fine for me. I can now jump between 4-6 fairly light programs and 2-3 heavier ones without the previous app always closing like before the update.

Paqu1 said:
Well its working fine for me. I can now jump between 4-6 fairly light programs and 2-3 heavier ones without the previous app always closing like before the update.
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Actually I still don't know because I do not have the last updated, I'm waiting that it goes online on automatic update.....
Hope you are right!

Paqu1 said:
Well its working fine for me. I can now jump between 4-6 fairly light programs and 2-3 heavier ones without the previous app always closing like before the update.
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Please can you test this?
Open Google in the stock browser and type in something to search (but don't start searching!)... then switch between other apps and finally go back to the browser. Does it still reload and delete your input text?

I'm going to test the script now. Available memory is not an issue for me, as I removed Sense and am running Nova Launcher. My available memory usually sits around +230, ranging from 170-270. Haven't seen it drop below that. As for battery life, as long as you actually use the HTC multitask button and kill the apps that you don't want to go back to, the battery shouldn't really be affected, or at least the only effect will be a result of the apps that you actually want running, so it's a trade off, right? Keep in mind that means not killing the processes that will be automatically restarted by Android (ie using an auto task killer, or some pre Froyo type apps), only user apps that you recently launched and are now killing.

tgtoys said:
As for battery life, as long as you actually use the HTC multitask button and kill the apps that you don't want to go back to, the battery shouldn't really be affected, or at least the only effect will be a result of the apps that you actually want running, so it's a trade off, right? Keep in mind that means not killing the processes that will be automatically restarted by Android (ie using an auto task killer, or some pre Froyo type apps), only user apps that you recently launched and are now killing.
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Oh god, didn't I just explained this few post earlier? You dont have to do any of that since it DOESNT have any impact to your battery life. Go ahead and test it if you dont believe me.
hexaae said:
Please can you test this?
Open Google in the stock browser and type in something to search (but don't start searching!)... then switch between other apps and finally go back to the browser. Does it still reload and delete your input text?
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Ok, I just did what you asked. After doing that with the default browser I was able to jump between Dolphin HD which had two tabs open, youtube app and chrome without any of them closing. And I even went to home screen between them. I think thats pretty good compared how it worked previously. Because then often it was enough if I just jumped to homescreen and then right back the previous app to make it close.

Confirmed.
Official stock ROM, via OTA, ver. 2.31.401.5... and there IS multitasking, finally! Task manager is much more conservative (around 70-80% of cases) with executed apps in the multitasking-history-menu...
Yes, also the browser now won't reload pages if you switch to the mail app for a moment and go back...
~200MB free mem.

Task killers and data usage...

I got into a little argument with my manager today because I told the customer that exiting an app stops the app from working since android is extremely efficient with multi tasking. As soon as the customer walked out he told me I was wrong and that a task killer was necessary to stop any data usage by the app. In this case it was the browser that was in question. I tried to explain to him that it's not needed but of course he pulled up an article from 2010 which I pointed out the data right away. So now I have to present to the team why I am right on Friday.
My question is.... As soon as you exit an app and go back to the home Page.... Will it stop its data consumption?

Yes it will . Although some app will still consume ram . But for data as in internet data yeah they will stop as u exit them unless they background enabled like Pandora .etc.
I might be wrong though ..
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I'm inclined to agree. If set to work in background, app killer will start and stop it more therefore theoretically use more data then not using an app killer at all. Although I'm tired and may be way off base haha. Got rescued from the ocean today so I might be a little off lol
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I would say no, not all apps stop consuming data just because you aren't in them. If you have Facebook, Gmail, etc then you will still get notifications after backing out of them.
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I think it would stop data, unless of course it has background data perms. Which I don't think the browser has. Also since froyo task killers have been outdated. Unless you are selling a phone with eclair your boss needs to get with the times there.
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I can't believe it's more then halfway through 2012 and people still want to use task killers on current Android systems.
Windows conditioned people for some bad habits.
Wish I had the time to get into this now.
You won't have to search far for a landslide of proof why you are right.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
Still over a year old but is more relevant that his sources.
Top comment from that article. I think its a good analogy.
Say you're out golfing, and you have a caddy carrying your clubs for you. You ask him for a driver, he has it right there with him and hands it over. Then, after you tee off, you ask him for a 5-iron and he's got that handy as well. A good caddy will even recognize what club you're probably going to want next, and have it out of the bag already to hand it to you as soon as you need it. That's how Android approaches memory usage - it keeps the things you're likely to need right there and ready so you can just pop it open immediately.
If you're using a task killer, it can't do that. It's essentially the same as if you were to tell your caddy to leave all your clubs in your car. Any time you want a new club, you hand him the old one, and he walks all the way back to the parking lot, puts it away and gets the new one. Worse, occasionally he'll try to be helpful and bring back a second club (say, your putter as you're getting close to the green), but you'll just tell him you didn't want the putter right now and send him all the way back to the car again. Meanwhile, you'll take your shot, and stand around at the green waiting for him to get back so you can hand him your 5-iron and tell him to go get the putter...
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I agree with the above statements on how task killers are not needed (or even helpful) on most Android OS phones, although does Sense 4 on the HTC One-X muck up the general explanations as to how our Android phones typically manage memory, perhaps?
That is, last I read Sense 4 would cause reloads of apps sent to the background - such as a browser, Maps, etc. - because those background tasks are apparently being killed by a kill-happy task manager.
- ooofest

A program in the background can be using data (syncing, streaming, etc) when you're not using it and killing it will stop the data usage. Not very complicated.

Imatoasta said:
A program in the background can be using data (syncing, streaming, etc) when you're not using it and killing it will stop the data usage. Not very complicated.
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Only programs with sync enabled such as Google apps and facebook which do not stop on exit. Sync means it will still sync personally at all times until you disable sync. So all in all exiting apps does no good anyhow. The memory handling makes that possible. If you want proof check the firewall. You can find a firewall application easily and it will show data usage and all that. Also most roms now show data usage internally. They will show minimal to no usage whatsoever if you have not done something.
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jclendineng said:
Only programs with sync enabled such as Google apps and facebook which do not stop on exit. Sync means it will still sync personally at all times until you disable sync. So all in all exiting apps does no good anyhow. The memory handling makes that possible. If you want proof check the firewall. You can find a firewall application easily and it will show data usage and all that. Also most roms now show data usage internally. They will show minimal to no usage whatsoever if you have not done something.
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A browser in the background can still stream. Not complicated.

Imatoasta said:
A browser in the background can still stream. Not complicated.
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Not necessarily. And yes it is more complicated. Their are variables to consider.
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