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I was wondering if a few other Charge owners could try something to see if im the only one with this issue. I've recently noticed several spots on my screen when looking at it in sunlight. . They appeared to have formed when i was blowing at the edges of the screen in an attempt to remove dust from the edges. They don't distort the image what so ever and only appear when looking at the screen at an almost 45 degree angle in the sun but im concerned that they may get worse as more particles work their way under the screen. .. If that's what caused them in the first place. Can a few users take their phone into the sunlight and tilt it between 40 and 45 degrees and see if they notice anything like bubbles? It helps to have a clean screen. Im just wondering if i a) have a defective screen or b) have dust under it. Thanks
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My friend's Charge had some weird blemishes on the screen.. His handle on the XDA forums is r00t_beer or something like that.
All I hear is this forum is *****ing. And moaning, screen bleed is not a big issue I much rather have that than a deathgrip or dust beneath the screen what do u guys think you can't even see it unless your in cwm recovery, what do u guys think?
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clown you wanna close this one too?
/facepalm written all over this...
I think someone posted that the bleed issue is fixable. There is a anti dust barrier /gasket around LCD that applies pressure to screen thereby causing some bleeding. If you remove the anti dust it relieves pressure and no more bleed. So i guess we can possibly conclude that the bleed is not due to a defective screen. If LG uses a thinner barrier strip it may rid the bleed and still keep the dust out. My bleed is minimal and does not bother me.
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wendellc said:
I think someone posted that the bleed issue is fixable. There is a anti dust barrier /gasket around LCD that applies pressure to screen thereby causing some bleeding. If you remove the anti dust it relieves pressure and no more bleed. So i guess we can possibly conclude that the bleed is not due to a defective screen. If LG uses a thinner barrier strip it may rid the bleed and still keep the dust out. My bleed is minimal and does not bother me.
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Is there a guide to this somewhere?
To the OP. Its an issue because its annoying. Also it doesnt just show up when your in CWM. If your running gingerbread it is visible all the time, especially when viewing dark apps or the picture gallary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163392
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Voids your warranty. Beware.
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So does rooting, I read this yesterday, wouldn't Want to try it myself, the screen bleeding doesn't bother me, I only have it when my screen is completely dark and thats very rare.
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kdunn1994 said:
So does rooting, I read this yesterday, wouldn't Want to try it myself, the screen bleeding doesn't bother me, I only have it when my screen is completely dark and thats very rare.
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But the difference being, you don't need to remove a sticker to root.
I wouldn't want dust under my screen, deathgrip issues or screen bleed and I'm thankful that I have none of that on my G2X or Sensation. Although I would say the screen bleed on the G2X is much more wide spread than dust under the screen or deathgrip issues on the Sensation.
Have a good day.
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I agree with the OP... so there's some screen bleed in a corner, not a huge deal for me. I did not even notice until I read the posts in this forum.
Yeah, if ppl wouldn't of pointed it out I wouldn't have known.
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kdunn1994 said:
All I hear is this forum is *****ing. And moaning, screen bleed is not a big issue I much rather have that than a deathgrip or dust beneath the screen what do u guys think you can't even see it unless your in cwm recovery, what do u guys think?
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I've had five. Two had minimal bleeding and were virtually unnoticable (which includes my fifth). Two were noticable only when screen was black. One, my last one, was really bad. All the way across the top and it definately affected the overall picture quality. Washed out and darker whites. Seeing the difference between 4 and 5 side by side, I'm glad I exchanged the 4th.
My point is that the screen bleed on #4 really did affect the picture quality.
Imo it is a quality control issue that is unacceptable. It could have been prevented and it affects phones to varying degrees. This makes it a defect IMO that they should warranty. Especially if it is caused by that overlapping seal as implied in the disassembly thread here.
I disagree with the op on this.
This is a top of the line phone and the bleed is preventable and inconsistent. QA should have been better.
Hi,
My blue camera ring has lost some of it's blue paint. Underneath it's silver and to be honest I think it would look a lot better in silver.
Any suggestions to what I can use to remove the paint?
Thanks.
Anything you use to remove the paint will run the risk of scratching the camera lens, except maybe your finger nail.
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so everything chips then... after the black ceramic chipping, now its the paint on the camera on the grey.... next its going to be the grey anodised paint... etc
maybe they should have left it bare aluminium..
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so everything chips then... after the black ceramic chipping, now its the paint on the camera on the grey.... next its going to be the grey anodised paint... etc
maybe they should have left it bare aluminium..
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I haven't had any chipping, or other issues. I think why it seems common is because of the nature of these forums. People come here looking for answers, and when you have no problems, you don't need answers.
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Thumbs up for this.
Reading here shurely lets people think this device is kind of crap and so they won't buy it. Which isn't true at all, as all the others having no problems with the one s don't/can't complain about it.
I had no trouble with my device, after four weeks it still looks like out of the box, everything is working fine, many things even better than expected. Accidentially i scratched across my devices upper edge with my fingernails. Expecting the worst i found only some rests of my fingernail which i could wipe away...
ot on ----
I think about complaing to somebody about the poor quality of my fingernails which I expected to be as sharp as wolverines. Maybe my parents or the guy who created this world or to whomever.
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Fredriksen said:
Hi,
My blue camera ring has lost some of it's blue paint. Underneath it's silver and to be honest I think it would look a lot better in silver.
Any suggestions to what I can use to remove the paint?
Thanks.
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You could try rubbing with a sugar cube.. I've never used that method but I've read it works really well for getting stuff off glass and such. Try looking that up.
Some people just need to learn how to take care of their phone.
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Some people just need to learn how to take care of their phone.
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Curious how this helps? You need post counts or something?
Things happen, no use worrying about what they "could have" or "should have" done. And it's a bit insulting to the OP for you to insinuate a lesson wasn't learned.
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rootrider said:
Thumbs up for this.
Reading here shurely lets people think this device is kind of crap and so they won't buy it. Which isn't true at all, as all the others having no problems with the one s don't/can't complain about it.
I had no trouble with my device, after four weeks it still looks like out of the box, everything is working fine, many things even better than expected. Accidentially i scratched across my devices upper edge with my fingernails. Expecting the worst i found only some rests of my fingernail which i could wipe away...
ot on ----
I think about complaing to somebody about the poor quality of my fingernails which I expected to be as sharp as wolverines. Maybe my parents or the guy who created this world or to whomever.
ot off ----
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Droidificator said:
I haven't had any chipping, or other issues. I think why it seems common is because of the nature of these forums. People come here looking for answers, and when you have no problems, you don't need answers.
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This is not actually the case. People who come in to read about problems in these forums, also notice that others have similar problems as they have and THAT is what develops the trend into what are the weaknesses of the phone. All phones will have weaknesses, and realistically everyone who buys one expects it. However we have to set a bar as to what is acceptable and what isnt. I think most of you will agree with me that it is unacceptable with normal everyday use(and i am not a carpenter, a metalurgist, a skyscraper window cleaner, just your average worker that goes to the office),is unacceptable to see scratches, chips, discolorations and things that you should eventually see at least after a year or more of use, especially in a phone that claims that is much more durable with it's either ceramic or anodising methods of development. It is also unacceptable to have a nokia N95 have it's rear plastic painted camera buttom discolor after a year at least chip away and HTC One S to have this done within a month.
Being reasonable, the phone itself, disregarding bugs that can easily be mended with an update, is brilliant. BUT it should deliver as advertised and since it doesnt, that is pure mislead of potential customers, which is a serious fault in advertising.
So back in the topic, discoloration of the rear camera ring color is only going to be saved with a case unfortunately and HTC would only be able to fix it for you, by sending it in for repair for cosmetic damage that you will pay.
I wouldnt try to remove the paint, as aluminium is very soft and even trying to remove it with a sharp object or a blade will make it worse. The best bet would be very high grit sandpaper to get an even surface, after you cover the plastic lens of the camera so as not to scratch that.
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This is not actually the case. People who come in to read about problems in these forums, also notice that others have similar problems as they have and THAT is what develops the trend into what are the weaknesses of the phone. All phones will have weaknesses, and realistically everyone who buys one expects it.
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You're right, in that they see a pattern developing, but what I was pointing out is that typically of the few having the issue, a larger percentage will post about it than of the many not having the issue. It makes it seem larger than it really is.
And yes, I also agree that the MAO coating issue is much larger than should be acceptable. I'm honestly not surprised, though. But this thread was about the camera ring, so I was speaking to that.
Just think about the MAO process. They're "burning" the outer layer of the aluminum (which try as they might isn't going to always be perfectly clean), which just puts a thin coat of carbon dust on it. But they're doing it with such great amounts of energy, the dust is fusing to its self creating a coating, that appears not to be fused to the aluminum body (not surprising) kind of like Teflon in a frying pan (it's held in by the lip of the frying pan and grooves in the pan, it's not attached to the pan in any significant manner). Carbon, especially super thin carbon, is very brittle, so the coating resists scratches like a champ, but impacts not so much. And any tiny little separation or imperfection between the coating and the body will only make it that much less impact resistant.
I don't know how this escaped a highly educated team of engineers over at HTC, but it hasn't escaped me and it's why I gladly snapped up the grey version without complaining the MAO wasn't available in the US.
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You're right, in that they see a pattern developing, but what I was pointing out is that typically of the few having the issue, a larger percentage will post about it than of the many not having the issue. It makes it seem larger than it really is.
And yes, I also agree that the MAO coating issue is much larger than should be acceptable. I'm honestly not surprised, though. But this thread was about the camera ring, so I was speaking to that.
Just think about the MAO process. They're "burning" the outer layer of the aluminum (which try as they might isn't going to always be perfectly clean), which just puts a thin coat of carbon dust on it. But they're doing it with such great amounts of energy, the dust is fusing to its self creating a coating, that appears not to be fused to the aluminum body (not surprising) kind of like Teflon in a frying pan (it's held in by the lip of the frying pan and grooves in the pan, it's not attached to the pan in any significant manner). Carbon, especially super thin carbon, is very brittle, so the coating resists scratches like a champ, but impacts not so much. And any tiny little separation or imperfection between the coating and the body will only make it that much less impact resistant.
I don't know how this escaped a highly educated team of engineers over at HTC, but it hasn't escaped me and it's why I gladly snapped up the grey version without complaining the MAO wasn't available in the US.
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i will agree to that. I would assume a thread of one or two people having a problem will easily burn out, while one that has over 75 pages will probably show something more, even if it is similar people reposting.
i too knew that the ceramics tend to respond that way. Ceramic coating is widely used in automotive industry to improve performance in exhaust manifolds keeping the heat inside, but are very prone to chipping which is why they are very careful when assembling them.
I was amazed that this tech. was used on a phone and i trusted HTC with their tests. I was wrong, which is why i didnt go for the grey either,as i didnt like the color+ as an alloy itself being anodised means absolutely nothing when it comes to resistance in scratces. Sure it will not chip, as it doesnt have any coating, but anodising is merely to avoid corrosion, not for any other purposes. So the grey one will scratch easily(and we know that alloy is very soft), and it will loose it's color for it.
So instead of this fancy bodies, i went for a plastic phone!
Knew it was an issue.... Check the bottom of your phone of the white face I have multiple hairline fractures you can only see in the right light.... It looks like the cracking on clear coat paint job. Does any one have this problem.???
twayneo said:
Knew it was an issue.... Check the bottom of your phone of the white face I have multiple hairline fractures you can only see in the right light.... It looks like the cracking on clear coat paint job. Does any one have this problem.???
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Not to be a smartass, but it just sounds like you're describing scratches. There is no clear coat paint job. They buffed the edge to a gloss, the color is all the way through.
If you could post some pics though it'd be great.
PICTURE
i took multiple pictures and the camera i have at any angle cannot capture the cracking, they are very small in length but there is about 10 of them in parallel to each other and they are not scratches the phone has been in a case i can tell they are cracking i was referencing a cars paint job, when they spray clear coating on the car sometimes you can see cracking it looks like that. the picture is of one side of the phone the other side has a few cracks as well i cannot tell if the cracking is throught the entire thickness of the unibody or not.... you have to look very hard to see them with your eye but once you see them they are unmistakeable. to see the cracking you have to turn the phone to catch the right light. do you think it is worth it to return the phone? i just dont know how the polycarbonate works, if it all a uni body or do they spray something on top of it that could be cracking
That picture sucks.
Stop polluting the internet.
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I have this problem as well. There was a thread earlier in the week where someone had the same problem but its so small and I barely see it in pitch blackness that I could really care less. Also, I have light leakage at the top of my screen and again, not a huge deal. Some people just expect perfect manufacturing, as is normal for the obscene amount this phone is worth retail.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Stop polluting the internet.
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Your post was far more pollutive than OP's. He has a genuine concern and is sharing it with the community, which is exactly what the general forum is for. Why don't you take your bull**** back to the Galaxy Note forums, it's not needed here.
@OP- That sucks, I would definitely take it back and get a replacement. I refuse to settle for anything less than a perfect device and you shouldn't either. It is a brand new phone and will only get worse over time. These things are expensive as hell and manufacturing defects are not acceptable at all.
I hear ya bro I'm particular about my phone I'll prolly return it I expect flaws on refurbish but not new phones. but my concern was it was going eventually chip u just can't get a picture of them they are so small. Thanks for all your replies it's much appreciated and I'll be sure not to pollute the internet too much I know liberals might want to save the DNS servers.
Sorry, but I see nothing. The polycarbonate on top shouldn't have anything on top that can crack. If it's serious to you, just try to return it, no harm in asking.
But if that's your only issue, stick with it, you may end up with a real problem.
Haha I think I just Pee'd a little. Really? Nothing that duct tape wont solve.
Ok... what I posted earlier was meant to be sarcasm. Sorry if I offeneded anyone.
Looking at my wifes One X I just noticed something simmilar near the sim card bay. Looks like a deep scratch.
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Anyone else notice the cheap lens and how easily it scratches? I use a phone case 90 percent of the time yet my camera lens has multiple little scratches on it. I've never put my phone in a position to get scratches and I try to take care of it the best I can. It's mostly in my pocket when I leave the house. Also how good is the laser focus when it's lens has multiple little scratches?
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I scratched my lens and laser focus as well but it works just as good as new for me. Pictures have no artifacts and it still focuses fast.
Ya I haven't noticed any major issues yet but this phone is still fairly new. If I haven't used no case at all where would I be sitting with damage on normal use?
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I had the same issue. Only had it for a few days and it was already scratched to heck and it was making my pictures blurry. I was about to take my phone back. While searching to figure out if it was a common problem i found a thread on a htc m8 and a few people claimed it was a coating. I did what was suggested and used some toothpaste and a q-tip to rub it off. Then used some rubbing alcohol. I used to have some before and after picts but i can't find them. It worked great
Might have to try that out and see what happens. Thanks
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If you do the toothpaste idea - make sure to pick a toothepaste that is a sensative kind.
Reason is toothepaste is an abrasive - certain kinds will actually end up scratching glass quite easily.
Back in HS I did a science experiment on it where I gathered vairous different toothepast brands/styles - got a piece of regular glass and marked off grids. Then I brushed the glass area twice a day for 2 weeks. Crest is the MOST abrassive of them all. By the end of the experiment - that square was completed scratched to hell.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Tried toothpaste and it didnt work for me. Any other tips?
Takes quite a bit of rubbing, honestly. I was doing it for a few min and could gradually see a difference. You might have some real scratches then but my glass is pretty solid/scratch free after a few months in pretty harsh environments also.
If you look in the attachment you can still see some of the coating around the edges but it doesn't effect the pictures. I can't get a good enough picture of the cleanliness of the center though
Honestly at this point and age of these phones we shouldn't even have to be worrying about this problem. Need that gorilla glass over it or the Sapphire glass.
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