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I have had all the pocket PC phones and loved everyone of them, now I have upgraded to the 3 network in Australia so as to have video calling and the other stuff that comes with the service, I really would love a HTC Universal but am finding it hard to justify the price being that it is quite large for a phone and does no more than a XDA mini is capable of, sure it has a keyboard but you can't even copy and paste with the keyboard so you would need to have the stylus in your hand at the same time so why not just save your money and keep you mini, sure the VGA screen is clear but not nessesary. The phone is awesome but you can buy a new laptop for cheaper, I have been using WM2005 for months now and like the look but its still Windows CE, a far cry from Windows XP. There are all these phones being released but where are the G3 PPC Phones, the replacement for the mini isn't G3 compatable is it?
I will most likely by the Universal as I will not be able to stop myself, I struggle with self control and HTC understand that concept and continue to release these awesome devices.
Currently SEP900i for more than 2 years now and would like to change to Winmobile again.
Previously used O2 blueangel first with WM2003SE and then with WM5.
Currently i would like to know which phone do you suggest based on above 3. Though i would miss the keyboard on omnia but the camera and some other software features looks interesting.
Also since i dont change my mobile for at least 2 years leaving in China where we dont have mobile plans in EU so i would like to know if any of the 3 can be installed with WM7 whenever it is launched. Sorry if this is a little stupid but wont harm if i know could be done in future.
TIA.
omnia got a bigger screen but lower res
"i would like to know if any of the 3 can be installed with WM7 whenever it is launched"
nobody can say for sure
acceleration Meter would prob mean more wm7 features supported though x1 dont have that not sure about Omnia
Omnia has an accelerometer
edit: in Asia there is an Omnia that has an 800x480 screen, if your looking at Omnia's then check this out. I think its called the Omnia-T (but not sure - google is your friend). Also, Samsung are very prolific with firmware upgrades and being very aggresive at supporting the phone in this manner. Much more active than HTC have ever been and VERY quick to fix issues with new firmware. check out i900.modaco.com for more info.
The Omnia feels quite cheap, and is only so popular because a lot of people know Samsung.
The HTC's are by far the best.
The Xperia has a smaller screen, and a small keyboard.
The Pro is ofcourse very nice, but quite large around the waist. ;-)
Xperia has higher resolution and nicer screen.
I was doubting for a while too, but I've tested them all, and yesterday decided to buy the HD.
Omnia already had quite some problems, and the resolution of the Touch Pro is not suited for the future.
The Hd's 800*400-screen is unbelieveable.
That's right, go for HTC Touch HD.
Regards,
Carty..
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The Omnia feels quite cheap, and is only so popular because a lot of people know Samsung.
The HTC's are by far the best.
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I was doubting for a while too, but I've tested them all, and yesterday decided to buy the HD.
Omnia already had quite some problems, and the resolution of the Touch Pro is not suited for the future.
The Hd's 800*400-screen is unbelieveable.
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Tested them all? I OWN a Touch Diamond (before that, TyTN and TyTN2 and BlueAngel) and EVERY HTC device I have ever had has had to be returned for physical failures at least once if not twice. Actually, thats a lie: the TD hasn't because I gave up with it after trying various diferent ROMs. This has now been refunded by the ebay seller as under UK law its "Not Fit For Purpose". (And the new euro constitution want's to get rid of our Sales of Goods Act - UK people, dont let them!!!)
The last phone I had between the tytn 2 and TD was a Tosh G900 and this was faultless - just like my I900 which is also FAULTLESS. The Omnia has some software issues to start with (Blank screen of death) but these were aggresivley fixed by Samsung, far quicker than HTC have ever done with any of there issues.
HTC devices are designed great but pi** poor manufacturing quality in my experience as can be seen from my history. I said once before that I would NEVER buy another HTC device and I didn't but then relented and purchased a TD .... only to be proved that I should never buy a HTC device.
btw, the first phone to have a 800*480 screen was the Tosh G900 .... been there, done that.... for well over a year. Well done HTC for catching up .... finaly
Before anyone shouts TomTom (at the Omnia) ... this has been proven by the guys on Modaco that this is a TomTom programing issue and not a Samsung problem. But then, this is also easily got around with GPSGate or similar.
I will point out though that if games are your choice, the Omnia is not the best choice as games often have hard coded screen resolutions and these won't work - again, maybe look for the 800x480 Omnia which is about to launch in Asia.
And finaly, Hands up all those that have 32gig in there phone......
/me puts hand up
Salutations!
Sooner im getting rid of my 1 month old iPhone 3G and i want to come back to WindowsMobile.
Previously i had TouchPro and it was reallly good phone.
But now i would like to buy other one.
Which one would YOU choose and why?
QWERTY is a must!
Touch Pro 2 by far. Out of all the phones you listed it has the best specs in every way. And by far the best keyboard.
Some people like the LG eXpo. It has a 1ghz snapdragon processor, a sort-of dpad under the screen, and apparently a projector though I have no idea what you'd use it for.
But the Touch Pro 2 has a good number of great ROMS for you to experiment with, and a very functional and usable Android port.
And it tilts. I never thought I'd care about the tilting until I actually started using it. It's a great feature. You can tilt it and put it on your desk and use it like a mini-laptop. Lots of fun.
As a TP2/HD2/TP/Diamond user, the TP2 has the best keyboard, but you may want to consider the HD2, the screen is just so, well, HUGE
The X1 has been succeeded by the X2, but there is no XDA support for that, i love the tp2 on Deepshining X6 6.5.5, it is the nicest device i have ever used, but you sould choose for yourself
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As a TP2/HD2/TP/Diamond user, the TP2 has the best keyboard, but you may want to consider the HD2, the screen is just so, well, HUGE
The X1 has been succeeded by the X2, but there is no XDA support for that, i love the tp2 on Deepshining X6 6.5.5, it is the nicest device i have ever used, but you sould choose for yourself
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He said QWERTY is a must In this case I'd take the TP2 as well. From what I heard about SE it seems they are not very good in building stable WM devices...
TP2. best qwerty among those 3. forget about the X1.
oh there's also a new Samsung with QWERTY. Samsung have great hardware but their ROMs/Software are full of junk and instable like no other.
X1 is not bad though rather old, therefore compared to new phones the hardware cannot compete anymore
X2 gets good grades on manufacturing and seems faster (though having the same cpu as X1), but looses all because of the currently very bad firmware, additionally there is no h-spl for it yet, so all owners are stuck with stock (for who knows how long)
so you better pick one of the other phones
good decision btw to swap your iphone for wm device
cheers
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He said QWERTY is a must In this case I'd take the TP2 as well. From what I heard about SE it seems they are not very good in building stable WM devices...
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Trust me, the the on screen keyboard is awesome on the HD2, but the TP2 fits the bill for you, if you can, get a RHOD300, full 288MB ram useable
I'm almost tempted to suggest we do a swop. Your iPhone for my Touch Pro.
Never have I been able to connect to anything other than a WEP wifi network with it. Was with friend the other day. Connected to both a WPA network and to The Cloud, without so much as a twitch.
Me? fiddle with this, fiddle with that and nothing (Stupid greyed out PEAP/Cert box, in WPA settings. Searched the net till I'm blue in the face with that one).
Come on, sit outside my house next time I'm doing some internet banking, why don't you.
I've never used the keyboard either. iPhone has all the apps of course, one for everything. With WM it's a case of fiddle, fiddle.
What doesn't the iPhone have that I'd miss..... ermmm an FM radio!
Hi folks, you know the drill, my current phone (an HTC Mogul) is getting past it's usefulness and once more I find myself on a hunt to find a phone that has the most of what I do want and the least of what I don't, in other words the best compremise between the device of my dreams and what's actually avaliable.
Further to this I am limited in funds so not only can I not go out and purchase a brand new top of the line model, the device I do end up getting will hopefully last me for a long time (or at least longer then the 1yr I got out of my Mogul).
Perhaps I should start by looking at why my current phone just doesn't do it for me anymore?
1) No wireless - Ever since I flashed it to 6.5 I have had no wifi.
2) No 3.5mm plug - The HTC proprieity adapter hardly works half the time either.
3) OS - 6.5 WiMo flashed is pretty unstable, I regularly have to reset the device because it locks up or just won't work.
4) QVGA - probably the best I can afford, but I do a lot of reading on this and a higher res would be better for my eyes.
5) CDMA - I really need a quadband simcard capable phone.
So what do I want?
1) Wifi, bluetooth, GPS
2) 2mp camera or better
3) 6.5 Wimo native, preferably with duel boot capibility
4) 3.5 or 2.5mm audio output, or HTCusb that actually works!
5) Keyboard if possible (I really like the qwerty thumboard on my Mogul)
6) WVGA or VGA would be nice, but it might be out of my price point.
7) GSM QUADBAND!
Any reccomendations of models would be nice, thankyou
Go for Rhodium!
Definitely the best hardware device out there
If want to spent less money you can try Rapahel or even less (if you find someone who want to sell) Universal
Thanks for the recc, I will check those two out
I agree with ORB you should go for a Rapahel because it has so many roms to flash and it is cheap compared to the latest devices .
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I agree with ORB you should go for a
Rapahel because it has so many roms to flash and it is cheap compared to the latest devices .
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Hmm, looking at ebay, the Rhod looks like its about $100 more then the Raph
or $300 for the Touch2 and $210 for the Raph.
At those prices it seems like it would be better just to pay the difference?
Also no one will ship to New Zealand
Yes on that case better go for Rhodium
I have seen ebay sellers who ships to almost any part of the world.
Also have a look on marketplace section, you can find very good deals
Good luck,
UPDATE: I bought myself a HTC Rhodium, very happy with it.
Now, I want to buy my GF a new phone for her birthday. Currenty she is using my ****ty old Blue Angel with WiMo 6.1
She uses the phone everyday (carries it around in her bag), but the only thing she does on it is read. She sometimes sends text messages, but usually not. She hasn't really used any of its other features or installed her own programs or anything (she is a programmer, so she does have the skills to do so).
At the moment I'm tossing up between a HTC Diamond, Diamond 2, Touch HD and another Rhodium. I'm leaning more toward the Diamond1 though. We generally try to avoid spending lots and she's more then happy with the PDA2k so even the diamond is a big upgrade and isn't too expensive.
I use my Rhodium to read alot of comics, but at 480x640 the screen should be highres enough to be an improvement. The other reason I'm leaning toward the Diamond is because of it's small size, and easier for her to carry around.
So, my question: Is there anything wrong with the Diamond that I should consider, and are there any other devices with VGA or better resolution in a similar price range that I should take a look?
Also what is the difference between the Touch Pro and the Diamond (besides the keyboard)?
If you need keyboard go for Raphael, if you don´t need it go for Diamond 2, I buyed one in marketplace for 180US a few months ago.
Or take another Rhodium
Why the recommendations for Rapheal? I am ready to put mine through a wall. The keyboard has gone flaky in the last three months...(delete requires holding down, not just press, P has started to not work, space now triple spaces)
In addition the screen started to separate over the 'x' button about two months back, now I hve that leaky black spot you get when screens break. The control pad at bottom has started to have the plastic cover start to come up.
In the last month the phone has decided to start dropping calls and even losing towers completely. (I have not changed anything on phone in over 6 months) I have rebooted the phone at least 10 times in last three weeks because of screen starting lock up, non-responsive push buttons, and complete lost of tower without attempting to reaquire.
This phone is going tits-up recently and I have had it locked to Edge forever because it will not hold a 3G signal in a very large city.
Not a recommend from me.
Thanks for the reccomendatiom - and the non recccomendation ^_^;
(silly extra text because my message was too short)
Ok, at this stage I am leaning toward the HTC Touch. The touch is fatter, but it looks like it has a lot more memory which has surely got to result in a better user experiance. It's about the same price as a diamond as well - I just have to find someone on here to sell a raphael to me.
I have a moderately worn Tmo Touch Pro 2 I'm selling off on ebay later today. Only doing a 3 day auction starting at $0.99. If interested I'll post a link. Pics are great of the scratches so you can probably grab it for $125-$150.
a link sounds good
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Ok, at this stage I am leaning toward the HTC Touch. The touch is fatter, but it looks like it has a lot more memory which has surely got to result in a better user experiance. It's about the same price as a diamond as well - I just have to find someone on here to sell a raphael to me.
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Oh how I remember my HTC Touch days. That phone & the Mogul were a nightmare for many of us & we couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
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ScandaLeX said:
Oh how I remember my HTC Touch days. That phone & the Mogul were a nightmare for many of us & we couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
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What where the main issues you had with it?
I've just upgraded from my mogul to the touch2, and the main issue I had with the mogul was the low res and slow processor compared to the touch 2, but overall it was a good phone.
NEED ANDROID PHONE WITH Qwerty keyboard
I'm looking for a new phone to replace my aging G1 but I dont want to give up the real keyboard. The mytouch slide is nice but it's hardware isn't on par with nexus one or htc incredible. The new Samsung Galaxy S Pro with sprint seems promising but not so sure about community support. I love how with my G1 I have so many options, so many great ROMs from Cyanogen and others on XDA. I'm worried that If I go with a samsung I will have better hardware but very few choices when it comes to moded roms. Is there an alternative phone out there with hardware on par with the latest HTC phones that have a slide out keyboard. Any one care to offer thier opinions??
whats your budget?
android or wimo?
Hi all.
In a akward position, im limited in money and I own a Omnia 7 proven to not work with my carrier. Im on no contract for this phone, this is my second Omnia i'm now giving up on, im returning it after maaaany failuers from Samsung.
Also a friend have the LG Optimus 7 and its working great, but the SD card compared to NAND memory is visible and the screen is no good and compared to Omnia screen, not very exact on screen positions (i type i and keep getting u, and i can misstype the same letter like 4 times on a row. No, the LG are to sliw and to sheply made phone.
Now the hard thing being limited on money is knowing (and gets confirmed to some degree) they will now charge almost the double and that i cant afford.
I love big screens and looked at HD7 and while it seems to me to be the only solid working phone compared, it's not equiped with compass, the screen have got many talking(never seen it myself) And then its the Venue Pro, right screen, but it seems to be just as bothersome as Omnia 7 with buggs and errors Samsung is giving up on trying to fix. Also noted in DVP forum is that the camera is horrible compared to some WP7 models and no anti-shake!? DVP seems to have the compass etc that mango is opening up for thou. And changing SD card seems to be easy (need at least 16GB minimum and only 8GB availble here)
So what can i do, im about to give up on great hardware that no other WP phone can match (the speed of the NAND memory is visible compared to th LG phone at least) and move on to ... Nothing? Pricing on the new WP seems to get high and im about to become phone less. Im left betrayed by Samsung and will NEVER ever again rekomend there products.
HD7 and DVP is the only screen sizes i would use ... i feel lost.
So any HD7 and DVP owners that can give a helping advice to clear my foggy brain? I can't decide ... plz help.
HTC 7 Mozart, End of discussion best phone I have ever had and will be buying it bakc agian can handle any other phone.
The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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Lovly, but a lot looks nice on paper. And the reality is diffrent. They must have messed up the rest. Its like, i got 650 bhp in my car but only one one gear that takes me max to 50 Kmph (30mph?) No good race car there since its kind of crippled.
Note: darn its fun to do funny comparisons. Heres one free.
Buying a Samsung Omnia 7 is the same experience as buying a new luxury sportscar, only to find they forgott to deliver a complete car, and all you get is the chassi.
What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
yeh , htc show two new phone s just a moment,you know?\
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What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
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Random call gets muted, cant hear the the other, thou call is clearly connected. Also a random issue is that voices gets throu but gives a robotic voice to us calling so nobody can hear the other. This can happen 10 calls in a row.
Internet speed is sloooow most of the times. This is the only phone in our COUNTRY reporting this issue and never experienced anything like it. Add to that that there trying to cover it up. Oh the story is looong and i seriously dont want to hear the name Samsung in my preasence. Everything the done up till now is setting a example of how to NOT treat there customers. So while being a MS fan, and still beliving in the more the merryer, i still would be happy if they went out of bussniess, they clearly showed me they have nothing to do in it ... to not explode of anger thinking about the .....
Change of topic... My friend broke his screen on his Optimus 7 (told him but did he listen? nooo Clearly a SD card installed so maybe there diff versions out?
And new topic again.
Yeah, saw the new HTac devices and also expected pricing. I would not use a phone with smaller screen then 4', and that is stretching it. So even if the screen mqy be bad, its a solid device and a obvious choise. But the price ... i bought my Omnia on a special price and therefore when money gets back, it wount be enough. All i get is like... oh, dont know dollar from top of my head, but it wont be enough thou. :'(
DVP is a fantastic phone. Get a T-Mo or unbranded version so you can get the latest firmware. I have *no* glitches/bugs at all, it is rock solid.
The only issue is that the camera is not great, but with Mango you can tweak settings and save them persistently, which mitigates this a lot.
I have a DVP and mine is rock solid too. The recent firmware update has resolved the crashing with Wifi. In the old firmware, the microSD card and Wifi were using the same DMA channel, so conflicting.
Of course, it's always possible to get a bad handset, so if you get a DVP wait until you're sure it's stable before swapping out the microSD card. Dell will void your warranty if they notice that you have removed the black tape covering the microSD slot.
The DVP is relatively thick / heavy compared to the Omnia 7 because it has a very good hardware keyboard. If you want a keyboard, the DVP is a great phone! As you mention, the camera is not the best, although better with Mango.
Shame you can't afford the Mango generation devices!
So the issuess with DVP camera is not so much the quality of pic´s as the actuall funkctions of it that will get fixed then?
Thnx for your replyes, and thickness isn´t that of a issue. The Omnia 7 had nice hardware, that what draw me in as the main thing. And i like the picture quality.
And yeah, shame on my economy holding back for a Titan, it spells everything i wanted exept maybe the screen. One you go Omnia 7 black you neverwant to go back =)
Id go with an HTC phone in general. Been using the brand along time, about 6 years. I personally have an HD7 and Id say its a pretty solid phone.
As far as the compass goes there is one available through HTC hub in HTC apps.
Not that Im biased but HTC has been around along time and has proven quality. Look at Samsung troubles with there first wp7 update. Thats after I had heard that samsung doesnt update there drivers like HTC does.
Id go with an HD7 again. Even the new phones arent that much of an upgrade from the HD7. Im waiting a few months to see if HTC comes out with anything better. AMOLED screens being one, dual core processors. Now thats an upgrade.
Not to mention easy chevron unlock and HSPL for the HD7.
I like the heft of my HTC. Really "feels" like superior build quality.
Intressting notes on HD7 thnx.
I also am a long time user of hTC, my last being the HD2. Now hTC have had a lot of bad software work in past but on the WP7 devices the way hTC works seems to fitt the new OS like a glove.
The screen quality + the bad software made me give Samsung a chance. While they never have had good rep on there phones, the shown dedication on Android devices during 2010 gave me confidence that they would not repeat past mistakes, they have once again confirmed they have nothing to do in the mobile market. And IF you have a working Samsung phone, pray to the all mighty you dont need to seek there help, cuz you will get the worst customer support i ever experienced.
Im itchy for a hTC device again, but looking att Dell im curious, allthou i should by now for my own peace of mind settle for a devi e proven stabile. Only screens and the real GEO services that made me a bit carfull on HD7. And concerning screens, what is it with hTC and good screens!?
mm, HD7 or DVP, seems you guys are giving what i was scared of, very good and solid points.
Still have some time since its taking its sweet time sorting paperwork.
The point about the DVP camera is that it's poor quality, especially in low light. The flash is totally in adequate and can result in a yellow banding effect because there's a covering over it that tints the light it emits.
On Mango you can tweak the camera settings similarly to how it worked before Mango, *BUT* you can finally persist the settings. There are some settings like sports mode and futzing with the ISO etc that make it better.
Also, Mango has the ability to take a photo when the screen is tapped, which helps keep the phone still and minimizes blurry shots -- before this I found it nearly impossible to get a clear pic at all.
So, now it's "*barely* passable" instead of "utterly horrible."
I think the DVP is the best WP7 device out there (until the Mango ones come out, I guess).
I've got the HD7 and it's a great device. Love the big screen and the cool design The kickstand is also a nice feature to have. You can't really make out a difference between MicroSD and NAND when it comes to everyday usage. NAND may be faster but you won't notice the difference. I'm really happy with it and I'd never sell it (well - maybe for a Windows Phone 7 phone with dualcore processor, front cam and Tango or Apollo on it ). And a compass is available via Marketplace (HTC only). HTC will also release HTC Watch and HTC Locations for WP7 and the HTC Hub will get a major update.
So...Take the HD7, maybe put the Mango RTM on it and you'll be as happy as a little kid
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Optimus_7 It's the QSD8650, which is basically exactly the same as the QSD8250 that all the other 1st gen phones are using.