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Going From JF rc33 to thedudes 1.5 issue

Ok, I asked this in theDudes thread for this release but it wasnt answered.
My question is this. I have went from Rc33 to the 1.5 cupcake build. I absolutely love it. Now, on JF's build i was using the apps to sd mod. So currently I have been running all my apps on my sd. Now that I have updated to theDudes, all of my apps are there, but my phone storage is pretty low.
Are all my apps on my sdcard still? All of them are showing up on phone. how do i figure this out, and or get my phone memory back??
thanks guys!

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Anybody suggestions?
All i know is I did an update without a wipe comming from jfrc33 with apps to sd mod by lucidrem. Now all my apps show up, but my available memory is 33mb.
Did my apps somehow make it back to the phone memory? I read that after an install there should be 51mb free. So im missing almost 20.
Anyone?

If you went from RC33 to TheDude's you probably need to do a wipe and then flash TheDude. Then, create all of your symlinks again. YMMV, but that's what I've heard recommended. I had to wipe going form Haykuro's to TheDudes and those were both App2SD versions and both based on 1.5 --- I'd imagine you'd have issues coming from RC33 to 1.5 without wiping. But I could be wrong.
and 33MB seems like a lot of available room to me. I have my apps to SD and I have 26MB free on /data --- and that's after freshly clearing my browser cache. (I dont have my caches to SD yet.)

Well, oddly enough when i flashed and didnt do a wipe, my phone came back exactly as it was b4 it was powered off. I noticed that the memory was alot lower than what i was used to getting, but that could be the build.
Anyway, I wiped the device and had to do the whole initial setup and all.
From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
I know with jf's you run the commands through the telnet.. but i dont think thats the case here. I looked through the thread, but nothing.

look under the applications tab for dev tools. There is a terminal emulator there.
type su at the prompt then enter the commands. You may need to boot to the recovery console: (power down phone, press home + power until text appears, press alt + x) Once at the recovery console type the sym links to complete the transition.

mrmikemcguire said:
From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
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Search is your friend. http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD
Make sure you have your card partitioned correctly first.

I went straight to Dude's .8 apps2sd nowipe from JF's RC33 and everything works perfectly but I only have 20mb free.
I've only moved apps, not data or cache, so that may be why. I'm seeing all these people claiming 50-70mb free though and it makes me jealous. I may be just imagining it, but it seems when I start getting down to this amount of free space, the phone tends to get a little laggy.

How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.

TheStudent said:
How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.
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I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.

I have the same issue. 19mb available after cleared cache. updated from lucid rem mod to .8 apps2sd. had about 42mb free before update. It showed me having 18mb free originally, not sure why i have 19 now, although I did uninstall powermanager since it doesn't work on Dudes build. but that should have been installed to sd?!

f4phantomii said:
I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.
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Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.

I just moved dalvik-cache to sd card and went from 18mb available to 57mb in Dudes build.

Try this
I actually ran into the same senario when I went from RC33 to theDudes cupcake! I went back and reflashed my phone and went back to the RC33 build with mod, think that was 1.42, then instead of using LuciREM apps to sdcard i tried using MarcusMaximus's. They both move apps to sdcard and both work great. I realized on MarcusMaximus's edition after running commands in the terminal we rooted from recovery and mounted in recovery as well. I guess that did the trick for me, so now i'm using theDudes cupcake on a apps to sd command from MarcusMaximus. Thanks to all these guys, they rock from JF, LuciREM, MarcusMaximus and theDude. Hope it helps!

TheStudent said:
Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.
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I agree with u, but im wondering if it would be possible to install apps directly to the SD card, i hope google can do something to make it work. If tried allocating my apps to my sd card twice and i failed, the first time it seems i got success but after i while, applications like ahome forced me to close, which was not good, not only with this one, so then i thought maybe it would be good idea to reboot the phone so i turned off and when i turned on, it got stuck in the splash image, buu anyway i fixed by deleting my ext2 partition and rebooting my phone with another build...after a while i tried to make a partition using only the phone and running some command...and i got the same problem, so i guess allocating app2sd doesnt work for me .Anyway the internal space still is not a problem for me cause i have 71apps with 20Mb free..not so much i know....im still having JFv1.42 RC33 but i guess i will move to dude .8 build i heard a lot about that build...so seems to work good for now...but people are demanding many things from his build. What im happy is to be part of this community cause when i got the problem with my phone i couldn't use it for 2 days, i didn't know what to do..and was asking questions to everyone, but i guess everything is in this forum, we just have to read, i learned a lot thanks to the contributions of guy like you, that share experiences with their phones...thank u guys and of course to the developers that make android be better.
Greetings from Peru

Apps2SD:Am I going crazy or just not paying attention

Before I get flamed, I know I posted this in the Sapphire General section, but the reason I am posting this here is 'cause I'm looking for more info from a different crowd. Thanks in advance.
Here is my dilemma.....
Cliff Notes Version:
Got the MY3G, did all the good stuff (rooted, CyanogenMod v4.0.4, Apps2SD, etc.,). However, after I configured Apps2Sd and the SD card with the partitions I could have swore I had 289MB (or something close to that) of free internal storage. I have installed numerous apps and it went down to 278. I know the Apps2SD worked, however what is taking up those 10 megs??? After I noticed this I began rebooting the phone after app installs to see if maybe the apps need to be pushed to the SD card during reboot. No luck. If anyone can throw me some advice or point me in the right direction that would be badass.
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your_helpfull_hand provided this answer:
You do know cache does take up room? Also if you installed apps thats why it went down. its normal
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I replied with:
your_helpfull_hand: This is my first Android based phone so thanks for taking it easy on me. Ok, I forgot about the cache....So, if I understand this correctly the apps will install on the SD card but the internal memory will still slowly decrease but not all crazy as if I was installing straight to the phone??
One more thing, after configuring Apps2SD how much internal storage should be left with (the phone being clean after loading Cyanogen)? As I mentioned I was originally left with 288MB or close to that. Is that about right? Should it more or less?
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So, that is where I am at. If anyone has additional info that would be awesome.

[Q] What's Hoggin All The Memory?

Hello Guys and Gals,
After a couple of weeks running the factory update I find the mem available to twindle down as the hours go by.
I run task manager to free up mem after closing apps but after about 4-5 hours mem available is Regards to 185.
Any suggestions, hints or tips please?
Regards,

billygtab said:
Hello Guys and Gals,
After a couple of weeks running the factory update I find the mem available to twindle down as the hours go by.
I run task manager to free up mem after closing apps but after about 4-5 hours mem available is Regards to 185.
Any suggestions, hints or tips please?
Regards,
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Stop using task manager. I have read that Froyo takes care of it by itself and using a task killer can actually make things worse. You shut something down that Android needs, it starts it up. You shut it down, something else wants it. Somehow that ends up using more battery and memory.
Other than that I don't know.

Tip: Stop thinking of the ram that Android uses the same way you think of ram in a PC. Period.
Why, Ever wonder why there is no 'exit' or 'close' button on most apps? It's b/c Apps don't close on Android, they just get moved down the stack so to speak. Think of it like a deck of cards. Some apps are thin (use little ram), some are thick (use lots of ram), the deck is only so big (total amount of ram). So if you have a bunch of small apps, then they will all be in memory. if you have a large app, it will push everything else out of ram to make room for it to run. So, if your ram usage is 100% then Android is working properly. This is why Task Killers are a bad idea on Android. The above is a pretty simple explanation and this topic has basically been beaten to death ever since Android was released. For some info, just google,
http://www.google.com/search?q=why+...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
chad

Thank you both for your insight.
I will take your advice!
Thanks again... great forum!

Apologies, but based on my experience, I kind of disagree about ignoring RAM usage. I'd read some of that info awhile ago, and it made sense. But I noted that my Gtab would occasionally act weird, freezing, reboot, stuff like that.
So, I installed System Panel, and when things started grinding to a halt, I'd check that, and I often found avail memory in the 10-50MB range.
One thing was that Xscope would sometimes take almost 200MB, so I emailed the dev, who suggested changing cache from default 8 to 4. I did that, and then rarely found avail memory less than 150MB.
The other thing is I noticed that there a lot of Apps taking about 10MB, that I wasn't using. Things like Settings, Email, etc. So, I installed Startup Auditor, and configured that to stop several of those non-used apps. The thing I noticed after that is that booting is faster. Specifically, instead of sitting on the Tent boot screen for a long time, it would boot past that in maybe 10 secs. I'm thinking of buying the paid apparently so I can stop more than 5 Alps.
Anyway, YMMV, but that's my experience.
Jim

[Q] Will future versions of the Android OS fix this blasted "out of space" problem?

[Q] Will future versions of the Android OS fix this blasted "out of space" problem?
So I have been an avid fan of Google for many, many years. I was looking forward to the Google phone before any Android details came out. So I naturally jumped at the chance to own one. But lately, I'm starting to have a change of heart. These constant out of space warnings are really getting annoying.
So much in fact, I don't know that I want my next phone to be an Android device sadly. I really want to want another one. But this experience is starting to sour my taste for them.
I currently run a rooted (virtuous) Dinc. I have gotten the out of space notification many, many times. I have now started to get it again after installing the Google Music app after being invited into the beta. I have removed about 15 programs, but I still only have about 17MB free on that stupid 149MB partition!
This is beyond annoying. If the phone has something like 8GB of internal memory, why can't I use it? Why can't the apps install there? Why limit this massive amount of storage to a measly 150MB? What year is this, 1995?
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I am fed up. I don't know what else to do here and I'm ready to walk away. Someone please tell me that Google has saw the light and is going to fix this glaring bug of theirs in Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich!

Why did you create a partition so small? You should create a larger partition to prevent these notifications so often since you'll have more space and use up the extra space not being used. Also, it's not the Android OS's fault that your phone has a small partition made. Since the partition is so small, and you have hardly any memory left (17mb) then it's just one of the phone's functions to notify you about this which should be a good thing to let you know.

theonew said:
Why did you create a partition so small? You should create a larger partition to prevent these notifications so often since you'll have more space and use up the extra space not being used. Also, it's not the Android OS's fault that your phone has a small partition made. Since the partition is so small, and you have hardly any memory left (17mb) then it's just one of the phone's functions to notify you about this which should be a good thing to let you know.
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Umm...I didn't make the partition...Android did. Trust me, if it were my choice it would be bigger!

ned4spd8874 said:
Umm...I didn't make the partition...Android did. Trust me, if it were my choice it would be bigger!
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Android doesn't just make partitions by itself. Maybe the rom you have did that. try getting a new rom because this is not normal.

theonew said:
Android doesn't just make partitions by itself. Maybe the rom you have did that. try getting a new rom because this is not normal.
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Wrong. At least on the HTC Droid Incredible, ROM's have a standard 150 megabyte \data\data partition. For either odexed or deodexed ROM's space is taken in that partition by pretty much every installed application. I've seen contacts hog nearly 70 megabytes of that partition for some handsets, and Sense takes a lot of it, too. Odexed ROM's allegedly require less of the space.
I've run several Froyo ROM's and they all have that limitation. I cannot speak for AOSP ROM's, only Sense ROM's.
There is an app which I have used (but don't seem to be able to find in the Market any more, and the dev isn't responding to PM's here at xda, but I digress) called NotEnoughSpace which allows some portions of the contents to be shifted elsewhere. I found it was very helpful when I was on Froyo, but it does not appear to work on GingerSense. On the other hand, the partition appears to be bigger in GingerSense. The flip side is that the GingerSense ROM's are so fat, there's less RAM available for applications to run.
Pick your poison. I agree it's a stupid limitation that somebody should figure out a way to fix.

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Wrong. At least on the HTC Droid Incredible, ROM's have a standard 150 megabyte \data\data partition. For either odexed or deodexed ROM's space is taken in that partition by pretty much every installed application. I've seen contacts hog nearly 70 megabytes of that partition for some handsets, and Sense takes a lot of it, too. Odexed ROM's allegedly require less of the space.
I've run several Froyo ROM's and they all have that limitation. I cannot speak for AOSP ROM's, only Sense ROM's.
There is an app which I have used (but don't seem to be able to find in the Market any more, and the dev isn't responding to PM's here at xda, but I digress) called NotEnoughSpace which allows some portions of the contents to be shifted elsewhere. I found it was very helpful when I was on Froyo, but it does not appear to work on GingerSense. On the other hand, the partition appears to be bigger in GingerSense. The flip side is that the GingerSense ROM's are so fat, there's less RAM available for applications to run.
Pick your poison. I agree it's a stupid limitation that somebody should figure out a way to fix.
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Yes, thanks for explaining that much better than I could!
I do have NotEnoughSpace and don't use it for that purpose anymore. I just use it to see how much space I have available and to clean up the dalvik cache. When I was using it to get more space, my apps kept disappearing on me and I would have to re-install them constantly!

is this just a droid problem? i have an epic 4g and it allows me to use the entire 485mb for app storage. what about an apps to sd option? i know at least half of my apps have the option of being stored on the sd card. just wondering.

darksideauto said:
is this just a droid problem? i have an epic 4g and it allows me to use the entire 485mb for app storage. what about an apps to sd option? i know at least half of my apps have the option of being stored on the sd card. just wondering.
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Every app that can be moved to the SD is. But I still have only 17MB available.

ned4spd8874 said:
Every app that can be moved to the SD is. But I still have only 17MB available.
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This does not make any sense. If an app is moved to the SD Card, the space it took up on the device (some if not all) should be gained back since it's not there any longer. Whenever I move an app to the SD Card, I get back my space. There really must be something wrong with your rom/phone.

You sir have alot of apps then.
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The small internal Storage is a massive problem. I agree to you.
But I know there are several ways to fix this. What I don't know is how...
There are several ROMs who support different kinds of app2sd scripts so you get more 'virtual' internal storage on the sd card.
As you can see on the pictures attached i have approx. 550 mb free internal storage but more than 40 apps that could be pushed to sd.
To get this it is necessary to re-partition your sd-card and install the correct scripts.
Unfortunately, as i said, i'm not able to tell you exactly how to get this work. I just followed a step-by-step guide somwhere in this forum.
The ROM i use, uses D2SD automatically, if the SD-card is partitioned the right way.
I'm sure you will find something that fits to the ROM you use.

darksideauto said:
You sir have alot of apps then.
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I have 75 non-standard/included apps. I've read where other people have hundreds!

pistolero0 said:
The small internal Storage is a massive problem. I agree to you.
But I know there are several ways to fix this. What I don't know is how...
There are several ROMs who support different kinds of app2sd scripts so you get more 'virtual' internal storage on the sd card.
As you can see on the pictures attached i have approx. 550 mb free internal storage but more than 40 apps that could be pushed to sd.
To get this it is necessary to re-partition your sd-card and install the correct scripts.
Unfortunately, as i said, i'm not able to tell you exactly how to get this work. I just followed a step-by-step guide somwhere in this forum.
The ROM i use, uses D2SD automatically, if the SD-card is partitioned the right way.
I'm sure you will find something that fits to the ROM you use.
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I've used the app2sd and notenoughspace programs in the past, but it seems they have done more harm than good. Apps would stop working. They would disappear completely. The system would crash, etc. I kinda gave up hope on using those approaches.
I was hoping the Google Android team would wake up and just fix this instead of us paying users have to perform work-arounds just to use our devices.

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I've used the app2sd and notenoughspace programs in the past, but it seems they have done more harm than good. Apps would stop working. They would disappear completely. The system would crash, etc. I kinda gave up hope on using those approaches.
I was hoping the Google Android team would wake up and just fix this instead of us paying users have to perform work-arounds just to use our devices.
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Then you are pretty unlucky. I never had problems with this stuff. All works just fine as it should.
But, of course you are right, i can't understand why they don't give us a GB or so as internal storage either.
Damn scrooges.

ned4spd8874 said:
I've used the app2sd and notenoughspace programs in the past, but it seems they have done more harm than good. Apps would stop working. They would disappear completely. The system would crash, etc. I kinda gave up hope on using those approaches.
I was hoping the Google Android team would wake up and just fix this instead of us paying users have to perform work-arounds just to use our devices.
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Try using a cleaner ROM for your DInc (ie "stock Android"- no Sense UI). I just got a DInc yesterday, switching from an Aria. Did a factory wipe, rooted, and installed the CM7 nightly 100. I believe I currently have s2e on my 8gb MicroSD (just swapped it from my Aria, which had s2e and CM7). Anyway, I have 118MB used, 630MB free internal storage space for apps. This clearly isn't a Google/Android problem. Could be an HTC Sense problem, I suppose.
edit: My Aria even has 185MB available for apps. Not a huge amount, but considering it has a lot less internal space than a DInc, yeah, OP something is wrong.

Internal memory issue: It's full...But there's no way!!!

I just recently tried to upgrade my SynergyROM from r73 to r118 (current). I did the usualy TiBu and CWM backups. Upon attempting to restore apps with TiBu I was having issues, and realized my internal memory is full. There's no way I filled up 16GB.... It's all under "Misc. files" When I click on it, "System memory" sits at 4.05GB and "clockworkmod" sits at 5.70G.
What in the heck is causing CWM to fill up so much??? And what's "system Memory" consist of? Quite vague.
I'd appreciate some help on this. I really don't have THAT much installed, lol. Unless CWM recovery images (Which I have like 7 of) take up 500MB each...Then let me know so I can *facepalm*

Nandroid backups ALWAYS take up a lot of space. I have just one backup (via TWRP) and its sitting pretty at 1.7 GB. Your 5.6 GB looks about right since CWM uses the blobs folder to cut down on total Nandroid space by only backing up files that have changed. 5 CWM backups take up a great deal of space.
Also, check to make sure you completely uninstalled games. I learned the hard way that if you don't uninstall those 1+ gb games, they still take up hard disk space even when you wipe and flash roms. I went searching through I think "/Android/data" to find leftover files from uninstalled games. The second data downloaded once you initially installed the game stays until you actively uninstall.
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Thanks for this, you confirmed my suspicion of the Nandroid backups taking up so much space. I really had no idea they were so large. I deleted most of the old ones I wasn't using and kept a few critical backups. Still having some issues with TiBu skipping 7 items that it coulnd't restore, and system apps erroring out on me. I might need to just go back to what I had.

Weioo said:
Thanks for this, you confirmed my suspicion of the Nandroid backups taking up so much space. I really had no idea they were so large. I deleted most of the old ones I wasn't using and kept a few critical backups. Still having some issues with TiBu skipping 7 items that it coulnd't restore, and system apps erroring out on me. I might need to just go back to what I had.
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Okay, I'm posting here again in extreme frustration.
I deleted most of my Nandroid backups and I'm up to almost 3GB of internal space. I had about 7-8 of them, now down to just 3. However, when I check my "storage" under settings, misc. files take up a total of 8.5GB. When I go inside, TiBu takes up 600mb, while "System memory" takes up a whopping 5GB+.
What in the hell is in the "System Memory" files that takes up 5GB? After ictures, videos, music, it brings me down to 2.8GB internal memory. Though I need to start using my sd-ext for some storage, this is NOT correct!!!
Anybody ever deal with this? I did some Googling and somebody had a similar issue with the Note 2.
Thanks in advance!

Weioo said:
Okay, I'm posting here again in extreme frustration.
I deleted most of my Nandroid backups and I'm up to almost 3GB of internal space. I had about 7-8 of them, now down to just 3. However, when I check my "storage" under settings, misc. files take up a total of 8.5GB. When I go inside, TiBu takes up 600mb, while "System memory" takes up a whopping 5GB+.
What in the hell is in the "System Memory" files that takes up 5GB? After ictures, videos, music, it brings me down to 2.8GB internal memory. Though I need to start using my sd-ext for some storage, this is NOT correct!!!
Anybody ever deal with this? I did some Googling and somebody had a similar issue with the Note 2.
Thanks in advance!
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Did you go into cwm under the backup section and pick to clear needed data(something like that)
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Some quick background... I was running Synergy ROM for GS3 r73 for the last couple months. I wanted to update to Synergy r118 when I came across this. I didn't notice until after I loaded r118 that my memory was so full, and TiBu had issues restoring files due to lack of memory.
kintwofan said:
Did you go into cwm under the backup section and pick to clear needed data(something like that)
Sent from my SCH-I535
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I just "cleared nandroid space" after backing up all my backups to my PC (hmmm, ironic). No dice, still sitting at 3.95GB "System Memory" under settings/storage/Miscellaneous.
If you check your phone, do you get the same? A LARGE amount of data under misc., "system memory?" Mine is 3.95GB + 3.24GB CWM +700MB TiBU + 100MB various other items. This is what the 8.XX GB under miscellaneous storage consists of. I was starting to wonder if "system memory" consisted of all items below it added together, but I do not believe this to be true. If I add up the size of all files under misc., it comes to just over 8GB.
Any suggestions? I really want to know what is in system memory that beefs it up to almost 4 gigs!!! Arg, this is insanely frustrating!!!!!

Weioo said:
Some quick background... I was running Synergy ROM for GS3 r73 for the last couple months. I wanted to update to Synergy r118 when I came across this. I didn't notice until after I loaded r118 that my memory was so full, and TiBu had issues restoring files due to lack of memory.
I just "clearned nandroid space" after backing up all my backups to my PC (hmmm, ironic). No dice, still sitting at 5GB+ "System Memory" under settings/storage/Miscellaneous.
If you check your phone, do you get the same? A LARGE amount of data under misc., "system memory?"
Also, now most of the time I look in this location, "system memory" doesn't even show up, nor does CWM. So it looks like I have a handful of apps installed that vary between a couple KB and 700mb (TiBU).
Any suggestions? Arg, this is insanely frustrating!!!!!
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I'm looking at this and I'm not sure if you realize but that 4-5 gb taken up by System Memory is TW. System Memory = TouchWiz, CPU. This space is always taken up on any device using flash memory.
Quick breakdown using your numbers, since you started with 16 GB internal storage:
*16GB = 11 GB usable, 4-5 (let's say 5GB) GB are dedicated to the System for the OS. You're not getting any of this back unless you're on an AOSP rom.
*so, 11 GB is the "new" starting point.
CWM nandroid = 3 GB
Pics/Vids = 2.8 GB
5GB is roughly the most you should have if you have 0 apps. I'm just using the numbers that you posted previously. If you have a few dozen apps and one or two games, I imagine you should now have probably 3 GB's at most to use of internal storage.
How close am I to what you have as free space? Is my estimation of apps/games taking 3 GB of data correct?

SlimSnoopOS said:
I'm looking at this and I'm not sure if you realize but that 4-5 gb taken up by System Memory is TW. System Memory = TouchWiz, CPU. This space is always taken up on any device using flash memory.
Quick breakdown using your numbers, since you started with 16 GB internal storage:
*16GB = 11 GB usable, 4-5 (let's say 5GB) GB are dedicated to the System for the OS. You're not getting any of this back unless you're on an AOSP rom.
*so, 11 GB is the "new" starting point.
CWM nandroid = 3 GB
Pics/Vids = 2.8 GB
5GB is roughly the most you should have if you have 0 apps. I'm just using the numbers that you posted previously. If you have a few dozen apps and one or two games, I imagine you should now have probably 3 GB's at most to use of internal storage.
How close am I to what you have as free space? Is my estimation of apps/games taking 3 GB of data correct?
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Ok, wow. I really never figured I'd run out of memory so quick with 16GB. I also didn't realize TW takes up so much space. Thank you for explaining this. Time to move my backups, pics, vids, and apps to the EXT-SD, stat!
Edit: You'll noticed I edited the above right as you were responding to it. I reread it and it seems garbled, lol.

Weioo said:
Ok, wow. I really never figured I'd run out of memory so quick with 16GB. I also didn't realize TW takes up so much space. Thank you for explaining this. Time to move my backups, pics, vids, and apps to the EXT-SD, stat!
Edit: You'll noticed I edited the above right as you were responding to it. I reread it and it seems garbled, lol.
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Ahh, I see the edits now haha it's all good. So is everything squared away now? Out of curiosity, how much free space do you have left on the internal storage?
When you first turn on the 16 GB GSIII, you only have at most 12 GB to use, 4 GB are immediately lost to the system/OS. It's not really JUST TouchWiz taking up space, it's the entire OS and various components that fuel that. The GSIII is marketed at 16 GB but that's never the case with flash memory. Mine shipped with 12 GB readily usable however I caught a good deal on a 32 GB microsd card several months ago and have been fine since.