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[Q] Sense 3.0 keeps reloading

It happens several times each day. Sometimes, after getting out of an app to go back to Home, it seems like Sense reloads. It shows the HTC white screen and then "Loading..." for a few seconds before the home screen shows up. It's not something that affects functionality but it sure is annoying. If someone knows how to fix this or why it is happening, please, let me know. Thanks.

this happens to me to, but it is everytime i install or update a new app

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Just means that your device ran out of memory to hold sense in, and Since rosie (HTC Sense Launcher name) went out of memory (probably because the app you that you had running used up alot of memory and resources), your phone needs to reload rosie again. Happens to everyone at least once. My advice would be to not run so many apps at once, and take off some widgets/apps off the screen. Will lessen your chance of your sensation having to boot rosie from its memory. Hope i helped.

Thanks, Shaquiel, Good luck with unlocking the bootloader. I'm following your work
BTW, most of the time I'm just using the stock music app. I had already gotten rid of most widgets too.

fc
The same thing is happening to my phone. I just did a wipe and I am still having the same problem.

BiGMERF said:
this happens to me to, but it is everytime i install or update a new app
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Yes me too..........

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I gave tmobile a call about the sense force close and they said that a 3rd party app may be causing the problem. Then I called htc and they said it is a defective phone and to request a replacement.

It may be due to heavy RAM memory usage slowing it down to a (how us ex-iPhone users say) respring to clear all the memory. Plus Sense is a beast that isn't cool towards RAM. Out of the box you see in the Task Manager you get at MOST 200mb and average 150mb.
Just wait for your phone to be S-Off and dip into the Roms. Get Gingerbread, real Gingerbread. Will defiantly lift the weight off of the RAM.

waderaid said:
I gave tmobile a call about the sense force close and they said that a 3rd party app may be causing the problem. Then I called htc and they said it is a defective phone and to request a replacement.
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Why waste your time..did u just read what he said???? its a memory leak...

I had the same issue. I installed Launcher Pro and haven't had any issues since. It's a pretty common problem. I don't think its a defective phone.
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I can't wait for S-off. I removed the Weather Clock widget and Sense seems to reboot less.

the sensation has 768MB but only 558MB in total there is something wrong

i've had occasional reloading before but every time I change a setting or open up text messages when I close out of that task it reloads Sense. At least 25 times in a row. Trying a reboot. I will have to go back to my N1 if this persists.

fc
Delete the htc sense account and see if that fixes your problem.

waderaid said:
Delete the htc sense account and see if that fixes your problem.
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I would but last time I did that I had to recreate another. I disabled all the syncs and changed from push to manual. Maybe that will have some impact- and possibly save my battery.

Any time the free RAM drops to a certain level Android will bump off Sense, as already mentioned. This isn't a bug per se, just a ramification of the device not having enough RAM (if it didn't have Sense it would have enough RAM, but Sense uses quite a bit). Happens to me whenever I use a high quality game, or if I have enough open tasks consuming RAM.

My phone reloaded sense several times a day. Every time I sideloaded an app, every time I played a game, every time I browsed the web for more than 5 mins...etc. I even tried a factory reset and the same thing kept happening. I got tired of that and my screen seemed loose so I took it back and got a brand new one a few days ago. The new one hasn't reloaded Sense once. I've sideloaded apps through Amazon, and played a few games, this one is MUCH better. I would recommed if it hasn't been 14 days since you bought it, try taking it back and getting a new one if Sense is reloading constantly. It worked for me!

NZtechfreak said:
Any time the free RAM drops to a certain level Android will bump off Sense, as already mentioned. This isn't a bug per se, just a ramification of the device not having enough RAM (if it didn't have Sense it would have enough RAM, but Sense uses quite a bit). Happens to me whenever I use a high quality game, or if I have enough open tasks consuming RAM.
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If there isn't a memory leak in Sense they are guilty of horrible product design. This was happening to me after doing nothing at all without a ton of widgets or other background apps.
CyberStorm98 said:
My phone reloaded sense several times a day. Every time I sideloaded an app, every time I played a game, every time I browsed the web for more than 5 mins...etc. I even tried a factory reset and the same thing kept happening. I got tired of that and my screen seemed loose so I took it back and got a brand new one a few days ago. The new one hasn't reloaded Sense once. I've sideloaded apps through Amazon, and played a few games, this one is MUCH better. I would recommed if it hasn't been 14 days since you bought it, try taking it back and getting a new one if Sense is reloading constantly. It worked for me!
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My replacement just arrived so I will see how it goes. What is your date/country of origin/serial prefix on your current unit?
My first unit was a Taiwan Sharp 6/2/11 HT162T
This one I havent opened is a China 6/7/11 SH167T.

son of a *****........****ing D U S T smh - of course the power button is fine. Another 14 days on this one. Getting tired of this crap.

How to properly maintenance your G2X.

Ok, so my question is, what should I do to maintain my phones speed, I recently been noticing my phone has getting a bit laggy. Out of the blue a few times a week it laggs no matter what I do for a few minutes?
Is there a few steps I can follow to free up memory or some stuff I should clear every few weeks? Boot cycles? Anything?
Thanks guys.

Paul Nur said:
Ok, so my question is, what should I do to maintain my phones speed, I recently been noticing my phone has getting a bit laggy. Out of the blue a few times a week it laggs no matter what I do for a few minutes?
Is there a few steps I can follow to free up memory or some stuff I should clear every few weeks? Boot cycles? Anything?
Thanks guys.
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I NEVER stick with one ROM for more than a week, or I'll usually do a factory reset every few days. A reboot once a day also helps... But whatever you do, DO NOT use a Task Killer to free up memory, Android manages memory perfectly fine without any 3rd party apps.

Reboot every couple of days. The more "stuff" running at once, the laggier you're phone will feel. Don't use a task killer, but DO make sure only the apps and widgets you want running are actually running. A lot of apps will sync and update information in the background and that means fewer CPU cycles for the things you want them for.

Linux, for the most part, requires no maintenance beyond common sense. You do not have to worry about memory, Android can manage it perfectly well in its own.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I NEVER stick with one ROM for more than a week, or I'll usually do a factory reset every few days. A reboot once a day also helps... But whatever you do, DO NOT use a Task Killer to free up memory, Android manages memory perfectly fine without any 3rd party apps.
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Um? You are constantly changing ROM's? Why? That is so time consuming...
phburks said:
Reboot every couple of days. The more "stuff" running at once, the laggier you're phone will feel. Don't use a task killer, but DO make sure only the apps and widgets you want running are actually running. A lot of apps will sync and update information in the background and that means fewer CPU cycles for the things you want them for.
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Yeah I am going to start power cycling my phone like every 4-5 days, and I just noticed (still giving it time) clearing out my text messages helped.
P.S. Know of any apps that you can schedule a reboot?
LordButtersI said:
Linux, for the most part, requires no maintenance beyond common sense. You do not have to worry about memory, Android can manage it perfectly well in its own.
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Ohhhhhkay! lol.

Paul Nur said:
Yeah I am going to start power cycling my phone like every 4-5 days
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I just reboot my phone every morning...curious, why wait 5 days? It doesn't take that long to reboot the device.
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My Droid Charge randomly slows down

Hi,
My Droid Charge randomly slows down, regardless of what ROM I'm running. It can have no applications open and it'll slow to a crawl, to the point where when I tap on a contact to call, it'll take anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds before the phone actually dials.
As mentioned, I've tried several different ROMs, and I can't figure it out. I have approximately 110 apps, but obviously the phone manages them on its own. I have 15 gb SD card that has approx 12 gigs free.
Any clue what the cause of this is or how I can diagnose it?

Have you tried v6 supercharger? Mine was doing the same thing until I used it. It frees up the ram and my phone doesn't slow down anymore.
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nic411 said:
Have you tried v6 supercharger? Mine was doing the same thing until I used it. It frees up the ram and my phone doesn't slow down anymore.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk
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Just tried it, and now I'm in a bootloop. Darn it.

Stockmoose16 said:
Hi,
My Droid Charge randomly slows down, regardless of what ROM I'm running. It can have no applications open and it'll slow to a crawl, to the point where when I tap on a contact to call, it'll take anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds before the phone actually dials.
As mentioned, I've tried several different ROMs, and I can't figure it out. I have approximately 110 apps, but obviously the phone manages them on its own. I have 15 gb SD card that has approx 12 gigs free.
Any clue what the cause of this is or how I can diagnose it?
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I ran into a similar problem as I am an app crazy guy. I will try just about any app. And one day my phone started to act like yours. I do not remember which app it was, but I want to say it was an old version of skype.
Anyways, I suggest you flash whatever ROM you like clean. And then see if you run into trouble. If not then load one app at a time until you duplicate the issue. 110 is a lot which is similar to the amount I have. Most of mine just sit in backup until I need them. I now only run a few at a time.
Hope you figure it out as that can be frustrating.
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Everyone deserves to get the most out of their phone!

This happens to me with every ROM as well.
I've had the most luck with Imoseyon's v4 kernel, using AutoKiller Memory Optimizer set to 40/50/60, and setting dalvik VM memory to 80m.
With the above setup I've been able to go a couple days before slow-down issues start happening, whereas before it would generally happen every few hours.

Memory leak?

Does anybody have feeling of huge memory leak?
My phone killed every app and sometimes even killed activities until reboot.

If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.

Rusty! said:
If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.
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Read about it extensively here but can't say I suffer from it myself.

I've had the launcher redraw itself once, and that was after 4 days uptime. Other than that it's been fine for me too
Whether this is because I keep all apps cleared when not in use I don't know though

EddyOS said:
I've had the launcher redraw itself once, and that was after 4 days uptime. Other than that it's been fine for me too
Whether this is because I keep all apps cleared when not in use I don't know though
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I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.

rootSU said:
I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.
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i use GEL, but see 0 evidence on my nexus 5 of a memory leak. no redraws, my recents always bring me back to where i was, browser stays in memory, and have plenty of free ram hanging around.

rootSU said:
I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.
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simms22 said:
i use GEL, but see 0 evidence on my nexus 5 of a memory leak. no redraws, my recents always bring me back to where i was, browser stays in memory, and have plenty of free ram hanging around.
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Same here. Not a SINGLE launcher redraw unless I purposefully killed it for whatever reason. Always have a large amount of RAM free. Don't know what people are complaining about lol.

Lethargy said:
Same here. Not a SINGLE launcher redraw unless I purposefully killed it for whatever reason. Always have a large amount of RAM free. Don't know what people are complaining about lol.
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my guess its their setups, or what they are using(apps, rom, kernel, whatever).

simms22 said:
my guess its their setups, or what they are using(apps, rom, kernel, whatever).
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I'm on stock, and it's system that starts hoarding the RAM, even though there is 600MB free ProcStats lists RAM usage as critical.
I'd like it to be my setup, so then I could bloody fix it ?

Rusty! said:
I'm on stock, and it's system that starts hoarding the RAM, even though there is 600MB free ProcStats lists RAM usage as critical.
I'd like it to be my setup, so then I could bloody fix it ?
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Doesn't happen here. Usually have about 1GB RAM free.

On completely stock N5 upgraded via OTA - serious problems as well. I've tried some of the various mitigation strategies noted online, disabling various google apps, fiddling with wifi, etc, but what works best for me for now is just rebooting my phone every morning, and just dealing with poor battery life.
Here is one thread:
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=1701
There are a number of other ones as well.

this happens to me as well. i found that it may related to wi-fi. android l was originally delayed due to some w-fi issue.
i keep my wi-fi turned off, then reboot. it's been good since. i posted my findings in google issue tracker (Issue 79729). someone else confirmed it helps them by keeping wi-fi off.
see below google issue tracker
post #102, #108, #112
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729

Same problem here. Sometimes it is as low as 170 MB. It became difficult to take screenshot of this. So I had to take a picture from my friend's phone

adwacommunications said:
Same problem here. Sometimes it is as low as 170 MB. It became difficult to take screenshot of this. So I had to take a picture from my friend's phone
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Rebooted a couple hours ago but its the same as after 48 hours.
Also, get rid of that BatteryGuru crap.

All I know is if I don't reboot, after 1-2 days my phone will randomly freeze and become unresponsive until a reboot. Completely stock and the only 3rd party services in the background are Dashclock (35MB) and Llama (10MB).
It may have gotten better when I switched back to using 2.4Ghz WiFi mode but I can't tell since I reboot nightly now as a precaution.

Rusty! said:
If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.
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Nope don't have any memory leak here

bblzd said:
All I know is if I don't reboot, after 1-2 days my phone will randomly freeze and become unresponsive until a reboot. Completely stock and the only 3rd party services in the background are Dashclock (35MB) and Llama (10MB).
It may have gotten better when I switched back to using 2.4Ghz WiFi mode but I can't tell since I reboot nightly now as a precaution.
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No issues here and I have Wi-Fi band set to automatic, and I also use both.

jayRokk said:
Nope don't have any memory leak here
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Lol that is only 10 hours after a reboot. Give it a couple days you might notice something then.
BTW I almost forgot, I disabled the browser tab integration because the 2 times the phone froze were while opening URL links. Once through a Reddit app and once through Chrome itself. Also before the phone froze completely it was displaying signs of sluggishness and being used fairly heavily on a mobile data connection.
I usually have multiple apps in my recents menu and they still often reload, but I'm going to try not rebooting for a few days to see if it freezes up again.

bblzd said:
Lol that is only 10 hours after a reboot. Give it a couple days you might notice something then.
BTW I almost forgot, I disabled the browser tab integration because the 2 times the phone froze were while opening URL links. Once through a Reddit app and once through Chrome itself. Also before the phone froze completely it was displaying signs of sluggishness and being used fairly heavily on a mobile data connection.
I usually have multiple apps in my recents menu and they still often reload, but I'm going to try not rebooting for a few days to see if it freezes up again.
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I will come here specifically to show you even after a week I'll have no memory leaks. And the reason its at 10h hours was because my phone had died. I don't normally let my phone die and its up for countless days
So far 14hrs but I'll comeback everyday just to prove the point, only certain people have this and that it isn't a Lollipop issue.

jayRokk said:
I will come here specifically to show you even after a week I'll have no memory leaks. And the reason its at 10h hours was because my phone had died. I don't normally let my phone die and its up for countless days
So far 14hrs but I'll comeback everyday just to prove the point, only certain people have this and that it isn't a Lollipop issue.
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If you feel it is necessary. That doesn't prove anything to me personally, my memory use seemed normal even as my phone became sluggish and eventually froze completely. All your screenshot tells me is you're running geeenify, perhaps that is helping? I may have even fixed my issue by disabling tab integration, something you might not be using. We all use different settings after all.
The only reason I think it might be memory related is because apps in the recents menu are frequently cleared from RAM.

Aggressive memory management

Anyone else having problem where background apps are closing too quick?
My podcast app gets killed all too quickly and my launcher as well.
Any non-root way of getting around it?
Sam

Same here. Haven't found a solution yet but my Spotify keeps getting killed

Same here. I hope memory management will be improved with 5.1.1

i have no memory issues at all.
what's the problem?

it's been a while,
i decided to restart my phone and wipe cache
now the phone's a speed demon again
i think this is the manifestation of the infamous memory leak...
so yeah if you're seeing the same thing
just restart
that should be a lot better after that

shubu000 said:
it's been a while,
i decided to restart my phone and wipe cache
now the phone's a speed demon again
i think this is the manifestation of the infamous memory leak...
so yeah if you're seeing the same thing
just restart
that should be a lot better after that
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What memory leak?

shubu000 said:
it's been a while,
i decided to restart my phone and wipe cache
now the phone's a speed demon again
i think this is the manifestation of the infamous memory leak...
so yeah if you're seeing the same thing
just restart
that should be a lot better after that
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you're right... it is not Lollipop memory leak (the famous one) but another kind of leak which saturate RAM after 100 hours circa of uptime...
A reboot every 100 Hours is ok... but I hope they will solve it asap

carburano said:
you're right... it is not Lollipop memory leak (the famous one) but another kind of leak which saturate RAM after 100 hours circa of uptime...
A reboot every 100 Hours is ok... but I hope they will solve it asap
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There is no "lollipop memory leak" on the Z3. I think you must be talking about an application with a memory leak as I've had my phone for 8+ months now and have never had to reboot it. You should perhaps perform the usual steps to determine which app has the problem and then take the problem up with the developer, or use another app.

Webern said:
There is no "lollipop memory leak" on the Z3. I think you must be talking about an application with a memory leak as I've had my phone for 8+ months now and have never had to reboot it. You should perhaps perform the usual steps to determine which app has the problem and then take the problem up with the developer, or use another app.
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Dear friend... We already know that Lollipop Memory Leak is not present in Z3... but this doesn't mean that memory management is ok...
please check this... https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel/commit/f971262f63f380d9386dbe4c55eed0809eba0b18
Is a recent commit to solve a memory leak in the kernel...
As you can see memory management can be improved.
Ah... another thing: if I check app I will notice that only system apps cause this kind of memory saturation.
PS: Maybe you need to reboot your phone.. at least to install OTA

carburano said:
Dear friend... We already know that Lollipop Memory Leak is not present in Z3... but this doesn't mean that memory management is ok...
please check this... https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel/commit/f971262f63f380d9386dbe4c55eed0809eba0b18
Is a recent commit to solve a memory leak in the kernel...
As you can see memory management can be improved.
Ah... another thing: if I check app I will notice that only system apps cause this kind of memory saturation.
PS: Maybe you need to reboot your phone.. at least to install OTA
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I'm sure a few bytes goes astray every now and then. Unless it's something which happens repeatedly, and takes up a sizeable amount of memory you'll never notice it. And memory taken within a process will be freed when that process is killed (ie even if not freed explicitly from within that process).
Yes, I may have rebooted my phone to diagnose an issue or install an upgrade, but every 4 days? No - the phone is faulty or you've been installing rubbish if that's the case.

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I'm sure a few bytes goes astray every now and then. Unless it's something which happens repeatedly, and takes up a sizeable amount of memory you'll never notice it. And memory taken within a process will be freed when that process is killed (ie even if not freed explicitly from within that process).
Yes, I may have rebooted my phone to diagnose an issue or install an upgrade, but every 4 days? No - the phone is faulty or you've been installing rubbish if that's the case.
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No friend... this is theory but bugs are there and I think they're solved... because Z3+ is ok. Check this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=161&v=x7bT_ALUB8E
That's it

shubu000 said:
Anyone else having problem where background apps are closing too quick?
My podcast app gets killed all too quickly and my launcher as well.
Any non-root way of getting around it?
Sam
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Absolutely.
I downgraded to KK because it was very frustrating.
Also I swear LP on my D6633 only uses 2 out of the 3gb of RAM. I never see less than 1GB free ram when I was on it.