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[Q] Sense 3.0 keeps reloading

It happens several times each day. Sometimes, after getting out of an app to go back to Home, it seems like Sense reloads. It shows the HTC white screen and then "Loading..." for a few seconds before the home screen shows up. It's not something that affects functionality but it sure is annoying. If someone knows how to fix this or why it is happening, please, let me know. Thanks.

this happens to me to, but it is everytime i install or update a new app

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Just means that your device ran out of memory to hold sense in, and Since rosie (HTC Sense Launcher name) went out of memory (probably because the app you that you had running used up alot of memory and resources), your phone needs to reload rosie again. Happens to everyone at least once. My advice would be to not run so many apps at once, and take off some widgets/apps off the screen. Will lessen your chance of your sensation having to boot rosie from its memory. Hope i helped.

Thanks, Shaquiel, Good luck with unlocking the bootloader. I'm following your work
BTW, most of the time I'm just using the stock music app. I had already gotten rid of most widgets too.

fc
The same thing is happening to my phone. I just did a wipe and I am still having the same problem.

BiGMERF said:
this happens to me to, but it is everytime i install or update a new app
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Yes me too..........

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I gave tmobile a call about the sense force close and they said that a 3rd party app may be causing the problem. Then I called htc and they said it is a defective phone and to request a replacement.

It may be due to heavy RAM memory usage slowing it down to a (how us ex-iPhone users say) respring to clear all the memory. Plus Sense is a beast that isn't cool towards RAM. Out of the box you see in the Task Manager you get at MOST 200mb and average 150mb.
Just wait for your phone to be S-Off and dip into the Roms. Get Gingerbread, real Gingerbread. Will defiantly lift the weight off of the RAM.

waderaid said:
I gave tmobile a call about the sense force close and they said that a 3rd party app may be causing the problem. Then I called htc and they said it is a defective phone and to request a replacement.
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Why waste your time..did u just read what he said???? its a memory leak...

I had the same issue. I installed Launcher Pro and haven't had any issues since. It's a pretty common problem. I don't think its a defective phone.
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I can't wait for S-off. I removed the Weather Clock widget and Sense seems to reboot less.

the sensation has 768MB but only 558MB in total there is something wrong

i've had occasional reloading before but every time I change a setting or open up text messages when I close out of that task it reloads Sense. At least 25 times in a row. Trying a reboot. I will have to go back to my N1 if this persists.

fc
Delete the htc sense account and see if that fixes your problem.

waderaid said:
Delete the htc sense account and see if that fixes your problem.
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I would but last time I did that I had to recreate another. I disabled all the syncs and changed from push to manual. Maybe that will have some impact- and possibly save my battery.

Any time the free RAM drops to a certain level Android will bump off Sense, as already mentioned. This isn't a bug per se, just a ramification of the device not having enough RAM (if it didn't have Sense it would have enough RAM, but Sense uses quite a bit). Happens to me whenever I use a high quality game, or if I have enough open tasks consuming RAM.

My phone reloaded sense several times a day. Every time I sideloaded an app, every time I played a game, every time I browsed the web for more than 5 mins...etc. I even tried a factory reset and the same thing kept happening. I got tired of that and my screen seemed loose so I took it back and got a brand new one a few days ago. The new one hasn't reloaded Sense once. I've sideloaded apps through Amazon, and played a few games, this one is MUCH better. I would recommed if it hasn't been 14 days since you bought it, try taking it back and getting a new one if Sense is reloading constantly. It worked for me!

NZtechfreak said:
Any time the free RAM drops to a certain level Android will bump off Sense, as already mentioned. This isn't a bug per se, just a ramification of the device not having enough RAM (if it didn't have Sense it would have enough RAM, but Sense uses quite a bit). Happens to me whenever I use a high quality game, or if I have enough open tasks consuming RAM.
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If there isn't a memory leak in Sense they are guilty of horrible product design. This was happening to me after doing nothing at all without a ton of widgets or other background apps.
CyberStorm98 said:
My phone reloaded sense several times a day. Every time I sideloaded an app, every time I played a game, every time I browsed the web for more than 5 mins...etc. I even tried a factory reset and the same thing kept happening. I got tired of that and my screen seemed loose so I took it back and got a brand new one a few days ago. The new one hasn't reloaded Sense once. I've sideloaded apps through Amazon, and played a few games, this one is MUCH better. I would recommed if it hasn't been 14 days since you bought it, try taking it back and getting a new one if Sense is reloading constantly. It worked for me!
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My replacement just arrived so I will see how it goes. What is your date/country of origin/serial prefix on your current unit?
My first unit was a Taiwan Sharp 6/2/11 HT162T
This one I havent opened is a China 6/7/11 SH167T.

son of a *****........****ing D U S T smh - of course the power button is fine. Another 14 days on this one. Getting tired of this crap.

My Droid Charge randomly slows down

Hi,
My Droid Charge randomly slows down, regardless of what ROM I'm running. It can have no applications open and it'll slow to a crawl, to the point where when I tap on a contact to call, it'll take anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds before the phone actually dials.
As mentioned, I've tried several different ROMs, and I can't figure it out. I have approximately 110 apps, but obviously the phone manages them on its own. I have 15 gb SD card that has approx 12 gigs free.
Any clue what the cause of this is or how I can diagnose it?

Have you tried v6 supercharger? Mine was doing the same thing until I used it. It frees up the ram and my phone doesn't slow down anymore.
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nic411 said:
Have you tried v6 supercharger? Mine was doing the same thing until I used it. It frees up the ram and my phone doesn't slow down anymore.
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Just tried it, and now I'm in a bootloop. Darn it.

Stockmoose16 said:
Hi,
My Droid Charge randomly slows down, regardless of what ROM I'm running. It can have no applications open and it'll slow to a crawl, to the point where when I tap on a contact to call, it'll take anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds before the phone actually dials.
As mentioned, I've tried several different ROMs, and I can't figure it out. I have approximately 110 apps, but obviously the phone manages them on its own. I have 15 gb SD card that has approx 12 gigs free.
Any clue what the cause of this is or how I can diagnose it?
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I ran into a similar problem as I am an app crazy guy. I will try just about any app. And one day my phone started to act like yours. I do not remember which app it was, but I want to say it was an old version of skype.
Anyways, I suggest you flash whatever ROM you like clean. And then see if you run into trouble. If not then load one app at a time until you duplicate the issue. 110 is a lot which is similar to the amount I have. Most of mine just sit in backup until I need them. I now only run a few at a time.
Hope you figure it out as that can be frustrating.
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This happens to me with every ROM as well.
I've had the most luck with Imoseyon's v4 kernel, using AutoKiller Memory Optimizer set to 40/50/60, and setting dalvik VM memory to 80m.
With the above setup I've been able to go a couple days before slow-down issues start happening, whereas before it would generally happen every few hours.

[Q] Nexus S random reboot and bug help!

Since I updated my Nexus S (i9020a to be exact) to ICS 4.0.4, my phone has been randomly rebooting like everyday! I did manually update it but I got stock Android and also I am unrooted not have my bootloader unlocked. Why is this happening so frequently? Should I factory reset my phone?

kyokeun1234 said:
Since I updated my Nexus S (i9020a to be exact) to ICS 4.0.4, my phone has been randomly rebooting like everyday! I did manually update it but I got stock Android and also I am unrooted not have my bootloader unlocked. Why is this happening so frequently? Should I factory reset my phone?
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Try that yes
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I just did. No reboot yet... hoping that this worth my data...
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I also had a spontaneous reboot a couple of days after I updated to 4.0.4.
It's only been four days total, so I'll be keeping an eye on it.
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nope... didn't get it there...
maybe you should wipe your cache and dalvik-cache... and don't forget to fix permissions...

savantist said:
nope... didn't get it there...
maybe you should wipe your cache and dalvik-cache... and don't forget to fix permissions...
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The thing is I'm not rooted and it seems that factory resetting actually did a job cuz no reboot so far... I'll update forum if this method works...
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Personally I've had several occurences of random reboots and actually at the phone lock into a reboot loop till I pulled the battery.
I think the issue is RAM management. The Nexus S doesn't have as much RAM as most tablets and it's younger sister the Galaxy Nexus. Something in how the OS decides which of the background services should be terminated and cached under heavy RAM load seems to be part of the problem.
For example, I seem to have improved my phone stability by removing apps that update in the background and don't need to (UAL, I'm looking at you ) and disabling background updates in other applications (TripIt, PodKicker Pro, etc) to prevent them from leaving background services running. That seems to have helped in my case.

[email protected] said:
Personally I've had several occurences of random reboots and actually at the phone lock into a reboot loop till I pulled the battery.
I think the issue is RAM management. The Nexus S doesn't have as much RAM as most tablets and it's younger sister the Galaxy Nexus. Something in how the OS decides which of the background services should be terminated and cached under heavy RAM load seems to be part of the problem.
For example, I seem to have improved my phone stability by removing apps that update in the background and don't need to (UAL, I'm looking at you ) and disabling background updates in other applications (TripIt, PodKicker Pro, etc) to prevent them from leaving background services running. That seems to have helped in my case.
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You actually might be right! Ics probably is optimized for phone with duel core and at least 1gb of ram...
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kyokeun1234 said:
Since I updated my Nexus S (i9020a to be exact) to ICS 4.0.4, my phone has been randomly rebooting like everyday! I did manually update it but I got stock Android and also I am unrooted not have my bootloader unlocked. Why is this happening so frequently? Should I factory reset my phone?
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wipe data may solve this issue.

I have been running Pete's Bugless Beast which has both the ROM and Kernel updated to 4.0.4. Never had a random reboot.
I doubt it is a memory issue. When my phone doesn't have a foreground app open it usually has 130 MB ~ 150 MB free. I never see it go below 100 MB.

AeroEchelon said:
I have been running Pete's Bugless Beast which has both the ROM and Kernel updated to 4.0.4. Never had a random reboot.
I doubt it is a memory issue. When my phone doesn't have a foreground app open it usually has 130 MB ~ 150 MB free. I never see it go below 100 MB.
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My phone is not rooted, so is there any way to fix it without flashing anything?
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Exactly when is it powercycling?
Is it when running a certain app? When plugged in? When on standby? When you set it down or bump it?
There a number of different reasons the phone could be powercycling.
If it's while running a certain app or completely at random while you're not using it, unprevoked, first try hard resetting it. That will resolve the majority of issues.
If it's when you set it down or it's bumped, it's an issue with the battery making contact. Remove your battery, clean the contacts gently with a pencil eraser, make sure the contacts are clean and free from pocket lint on the phone itself and reinsert the battery.
If it's still doing it after a reset, it could be your processor. The best way I've found to test your processor is to max it out. You can do this by running a benchmark app over and over while everything on your phone is running. I personally use "Neocore" (available in the Play Store). Turn on your bluetooth, wifi, max your screen brightness, gps, every battery sucking processor running setting available. Run Neocore as 'Interactive Mode'. If you run that for an hour without powercycling, your processor is good. If it powercycles, you have a bad processor and should have your phone replaced through Samsung warranty.
Best of luck to you!

Random reboot
My phone is rebooting at least 15 times a day !
It is very random : during a phone call/installing an app/unlock the phone/writing with keyboard/phone is idle...
Applications are also often not responding...
I did a factory reset/wipe data several times but it didnt change anything.
Phone :Nexus S i9023
Carrier : unlocked ( HK )
OS/build number : Android 4.04/IMM76D
A really big amount of people posted the same issue on google mobile forum. ( i can't post link yet as it is my first post ) title "Random reboot of nexus with Android 4" ( please google it ) , but nobody mentionned anything with CPU. Could it be really that many people having a default CPU ?

After my last post, no reboots for while but now reboots are back with increasing frequency.
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I don't usually like resurrect a really old thread, but after a road trip where my Nexus S randomly rebooted 4-5 times while running Podkicker Pro and Maps Navigation I went and reset my device to factory defaults. The next day I had the phone reboot in the middle of a podcast. Today it rebooted halfway through the first ring when I received a call.
Seems to be, at least in my case, that the reboots are related to mp3 audio.
This lead me to find this bug logged against the galaxy nexus: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22669
It doesn't provide an answer, but it does provide some insight. I think personally I might look at different ringtone formats and see if converting my custom ringtone to something other than MP3 will help, but I'm not optimistic.

[Q] Ram Usage

Hi all,
First of all, I did some research, and didn't find anything related to my question (a special issue I'm having I guess).
Second, I know that Android uses as much Ram as possible, and the more ram it uses, the better it is (but that's not my case).
Here's the problem :
It happened last month, and will happen soon again.
With time, Ram consumption increases in my Nexus 5 daily, bit by bit until only <100Mo is free. This leads to the keyboard not opening up for example, because the Ram is full.
Compared to my Nexus 4 (rooted, PA 4.2b4 [even though I don't think it makes any difference]), apps stay active >200 hours (facebook, viber, ebay, Swiftkey etc.), while on N4, Swifkey is active since 22hours ago for example.
I don't really reboot my Nexus 5 (stock, unrooted), maybe this is the issue ?
When it happened a month ago, I uninstalled a game and it fixed it, until now.. Available Ram is roughly 600Mo, and it's shrinking each day.
I hope I didn't forget anything, if you think I did, please do ask.
Thank you for any suggestions (and for reading this, while you're at it.)

rebooting your phone daily, or every couple days, will keep your phone running at its best. if you dont feel like taking the 20-30 seconds to reboot your phone every once in a while, then deal with it.

Yeah I always recommend regular reboots. Also, maybe you have an app that has a memory leak
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simms22 said:
rebooting your phone daily, or every couple days, will keep your phone running at its best. if you dont feel like taking the 20-30 seconds to reboot your phone every once in a while, then deal with it.
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Nah, nah, sounds like a good compromise. I'd rather reboot the hell out of it than stay keyboardless..
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Yeah I always recommend regular reboots. Also, maybe you have an app that has a memory leak
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About memory leaks.. I have no idea, I only have "the basics" installed. I'll do a quick analysis just in case.
Cheers ! :good:

Root man! Unlock the N5's true potential flash a lightweight ROM like slim / carbon

Memory leak?

Does anybody have feeling of huge memory leak?
My phone killed every app and sometimes even killed activities until reboot.

If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.

Rusty! said:
If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.
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Read about it extensively here but can't say I suffer from it myself.

I've had the launcher redraw itself once, and that was after 4 days uptime. Other than that it's been fine for me too
Whether this is because I keep all apps cleared when not in use I don't know though

EddyOS said:
I've had the launcher redraw itself once, and that was after 4 days uptime. Other than that it's been fine for me too
Whether this is because I keep all apps cleared when not in use I don't know though
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I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.

rootSU said:
I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.
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i use GEL, but see 0 evidence on my nexus 5 of a memory leak. no redraws, my recents always bring me back to where i was, browser stays in memory, and have plenty of free ram hanging around.

rootSU said:
I'm guessing not because I never clear anything. But certainly my most recent handful of apps when brought back from recents all seem to open back up in their cached states instantaneously. I also can't see any evidence of memory leak when looking at RAM info.
I don't use GEL so cannot attest to any redraws there.
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i use GEL, but see 0 evidence on my nexus 5 of a memory leak. no redraws, my recents always bring me back to where i was, browser stays in memory, and have plenty of free ram hanging around.
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Same here. Not a SINGLE launcher redraw unless I purposefully killed it for whatever reason. Always have a large amount of RAM free. Don't know what people are complaining about lol.

Lethargy said:
Same here. Not a SINGLE launcher redraw unless I purposefully killed it for whatever reason. Always have a large amount of RAM free. Don't know what people are complaining about lol.
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my guess its their setups, or what they are using(apps, rom, kernel, whatever).

simms22 said:
my guess its their setups, or what they are using(apps, rom, kernel, whatever).
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I'm on stock, and it's system that starts hoarding the RAM, even though there is 600MB free ProcStats lists RAM usage as critical.
I'd like it to be my setup, so then I could bloody fix it ?

Rusty! said:
I'm on stock, and it's system that starts hoarding the RAM, even though there is 600MB free ProcStats lists RAM usage as critical.
I'd like it to be my setup, so then I could bloody fix it ?
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Doesn't happen here. Usually have about 1GB RAM free.

On completely stock N5 upgraded via OTA - serious problems as well. I've tried some of the various mitigation strategies noted online, disabling various google apps, fiddling with wifi, etc, but what works best for me for now is just rebooting my phone every morning, and just dealing with poor battery life.
Here is one thread:
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=1701
There are a number of other ones as well.

this happens to me as well. i found that it may related to wi-fi. android l was originally delayed due to some w-fi issue.
i keep my wi-fi turned off, then reboot. it's been good since. i posted my findings in google issue tracker (Issue 79729). someone else confirmed it helps them by keeping wi-fi off.
see below google issue tracker
post #102, #108, #112
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729

Same problem here. Sometimes it is as low as 170 MB. It became difficult to take screenshot of this. So I had to take a picture from my friend's phone

adwacommunications said:
Same problem here. Sometimes it is as low as 170 MB. It became difficult to take screenshot of this. So I had to take a picture from my friend's phone
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Rebooted a couple hours ago but its the same as after 48 hours.
Also, get rid of that BatteryGuru crap.

All I know is if I don't reboot, after 1-2 days my phone will randomly freeze and become unresponsive until a reboot. Completely stock and the only 3rd party services in the background are Dashclock (35MB) and Llama (10MB).
It may have gotten better when I switched back to using 2.4Ghz WiFi mode but I can't tell since I reboot nightly now as a precaution.

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If you're on 5.0, then yes, everyone has it. Well known about.
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Nope don't have any memory leak here

bblzd said:
All I know is if I don't reboot, after 1-2 days my phone will randomly freeze and become unresponsive until a reboot. Completely stock and the only 3rd party services in the background are Dashclock (35MB) and Llama (10MB).
It may have gotten better when I switched back to using 2.4Ghz WiFi mode but I can't tell since I reboot nightly now as a precaution.
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No issues here and I have Wi-Fi band set to automatic, and I also use both.

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Nope don't have any memory leak here
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Lol that is only 10 hours after a reboot. Give it a couple days you might notice something then.
BTW I almost forgot, I disabled the browser tab integration because the 2 times the phone froze were while opening URL links. Once through a Reddit app and once through Chrome itself. Also before the phone froze completely it was displaying signs of sluggishness and being used fairly heavily on a mobile data connection.
I usually have multiple apps in my recents menu and they still often reload, but I'm going to try not rebooting for a few days to see if it freezes up again.

bblzd said:
Lol that is only 10 hours after a reboot. Give it a couple days you might notice something then.
BTW I almost forgot, I disabled the browser tab integration because the 2 times the phone froze were while opening URL links. Once through a Reddit app and once through Chrome itself. Also before the phone froze completely it was displaying signs of sluggishness and being used fairly heavily on a mobile data connection.
I usually have multiple apps in my recents menu and they still often reload, but I'm going to try not rebooting for a few days to see if it freezes up again.
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I will come here specifically to show you even after a week I'll have no memory leaks. And the reason its at 10h hours was because my phone had died. I don't normally let my phone die and its up for countless days
So far 14hrs but I'll comeback everyday just to prove the point, only certain people have this and that it isn't a Lollipop issue.

jayRokk said:
I will come here specifically to show you even after a week I'll have no memory leaks. And the reason its at 10h hours was because my phone had died. I don't normally let my phone die and its up for countless days
So far 14hrs but I'll comeback everyday just to prove the point, only certain people have this and that it isn't a Lollipop issue.
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If you feel it is necessary. That doesn't prove anything to me personally, my memory use seemed normal even as my phone became sluggish and eventually froze completely. All your screenshot tells me is you're running geeenify, perhaps that is helping? I may have even fixed my issue by disabling tab integration, something you might not be using. We all use different settings after all.
The only reason I think it might be memory related is because apps in the recents menu are frequently cleared from RAM.