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So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
Henchman said:
So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
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Which method did you use to execute CACHES to SD?
I've wondered about this as well since I've moved all my caches, and yet everytime I launch the browser I get a low space warning.
Just started happening to me as well, I haven't moved all cache to sd card though.
Henchman said:
So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
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where are you checking browser cache? because if you look under the applications you will always see the size of the cache .. no matter where it's located .. under my applications it states i have about 100M of space used on a 74M phone with 40M free .. how do you know it's "eating up" memory?
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where are you checking browser cache? because if you look under the applications you will always see the size of the cache .. no matter where it's located .. under my applications it states i have about 100M of space used on a 74M phone with 40M free .. how do you know it's "eating up" memory?
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See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
Henchman said:
See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
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so how did you move the apps? or did you just move the cache files?
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so how did you move the apps? or did you just move the cache files?
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I used the instructions(or a script. don't remember which) that I found here on xda
You probably missed the app_thumbnails directory in the browser's data directory. This one was taking up far more space (17 MB in my case) than the cache when I was investigating why my all of my storage space was gone.
I'm not sure what this this is. The files in it don't appear to be images (the linux file command can't identify them, anyway), and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the browser to be keeping track of thumbnails of anything beyond tabs (which should die when the browser is closed -- not be collecting indefinitely -- unless of course there was a bug preventing them from being properly deleted). Does anyone know what data is stored in app_thumbnails?
Henchman said:
See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
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moveallcachesext2.sh only moves cache.
That could be why your internal memory keeps getting lower when you dl apps.
xdavidn88 said:
moveallcachesext2.sh only moves cache.
That could be why your internal memory keeps getting lower when you dl apps.
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No, actually. I moved the apps using a differnt script/command.
I didn't say it was getting lower using the Apps, I said it was getting lower using the browser.
Why oh Why did they make the G1 with such a pitifull small amount of internal RAM?
LUCIDREM, BTW, it's your JFvMOD I'm using.
how do you clear the cache once it's on the ext2?
Don't mean to thread jack, but didn't want to start a separate thread on sth. that may have been already answered. I just couldn't find it anywhere(and I read the whole 57 page thread on moving the apps to the sd card by Lucid, and then some more threads)Anyway....
I have moved the apps and data using LucidREM's MOD and everything is working fine. My only concern is how to clear the cache once it's on the ext2 partition? I'm presuming that's where i moved it with the lucidREM's copy.sh data script.
And is there any way of knowing which application/cache goes where, or viewing the ext2 files, cause I as well see a decrease of my intrnl memory. Not sure if it's a cache or an app, or both.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. Just wanted to say BIG THANK YOU! to all the devs on xda. If it wasn't for you guys I would've already given up on my phone.
ok i was having this same problem up till today when i found stumbled onto a post over a androidcommunity.com. i dnt have the exact link ill post it up later but all u have to do is run the "moveallcachesext2.sh" in the terminal emulator again and also for this to work you can't clear the browser in manage apps or within the browser. It should stay around 3mb all the time. Okay so after u run the script again browse around a lil bit and see if it fixed the problem. And if not open terminal emulater and navigate to the data/data/com.android.browser cache and type ln -s /system/sd/cache/webviewCache webviewCache and then browse around and make sure your broswer stays round 3mb...remeber dnt clear cache or ull have to redo the link
I'm having the same problem. With cache and history cleared, the browser is eating up 27 MB. I really need help.
if you did the moveallcachesfat32.sh, and you keep going to menu > applications > manage applications > browser > clear data (or something)
it will erase the symlink and therefore the browser caches to sd link will be erased and you would have to redo it.
So starting off with this phone I know it doesn't have the best internal storage. When apps are moved to the SD some of the app stays behind on the internal storage, I know that. I have had 2 shifts. My first one i dropped, cracked the screen, and the insurance gave me a new one. On my first shift at the time I had about 70mb of free space left when I sent it in. Before sending it I made a titanium backup and restored that on my shift I have today. When I restored it I had about 120mb of free space. (NOT THE PROBLEM READ ON)
So the point is something in the system is causing massive storage to fill up over time, and its not apps. I have force moved apps and that only helps a little. Is it a certin cache that I can clear? please help!
At the moment I have 60mb of free storage, that is with the app cache cleared through App2SD
Right I have the following : System ROM 219MB , Internal 222MB , SD Card 8.32 GB . When you long press on an app in TB it should give you the option to move to SD card. You shouldn't have to force move an app. When you restored all your apps did you restore apps and data? Or just the app? Also after restoring with TB you need to make sure the app was restored to the correct place. There's an option I usually check in the preferances before I restore all my apps. It restores to the previous location you had the app. Hope that helps.
I restored the apps and data... This isn't a problem with tb, its a problem with some storage/cache something building up in the system
No I'm not using Tapatalk... I'm using the XDA Premium app, cause I got balls.
My email took up a lot of storage on my old hero because everytime I deleted something it still stayed on a new folder called imap/trash... it was taking up about 50mb so you might want to look into that
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In your sd card or internal? There was a folder on my sd called .trashes and it had everything I had deleted on my sd. Where exactly is it located? Ill look in root explorer.
No I'm not using Tapatalk... I'm using the XDA Premium app, cause I got balls.
Don't know if your restoring SMS with something. But if your are sometimes that takes up hella space. Did a phone that had over 25MB of SMS messages restore back onto it on internal mem.
i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
I've been trying to go back to stock today, so I've wiped a few times, but I've got 430MB total space internal, with 366MB free
and.....
i dont understand what this has to do with this thread
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i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
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I beleive dalvik cache gets recreated everytime you reboot. But, about Pandora is it on the SD Card? Or internal mem? I listen to a TON of music. When I had Pandora on internal it was up to 12MB .So I moved it to the SD card, only 536KB on internal now.
My app is on the SD but it is storing over 1mb on internal
If you have DiskUsage go to the [root required] section and press 'App Storage'
if you can find pandora you will see that most of it is stored in the dalvik cache
Sorry I don't use DiskUsage app. Your right about how much is on internal. Mine reads 1.28MB.
any idea what it is storing there?
Drawing a blank on this, I'll keep looking. See if I can come up with something. But I'd probably head on over to theMikMik and see if somebody there can help.
My biggest space hog when I had problems was email... Try clearing data for email or gmail to see what happens (maybe back up first)
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Mail or gmail app..
I have both, a aim on the mail app and my gmail on the gmail app
No I'm not using Tapatalk... I'm using the XDA Premium app, cause I got balls.
i cleared my cache partition, not sure what was stored there but it doesnt matter cleared up 20mb... is there any other ways i can get more space??? why are apps storing data in the dalvik??
Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
Captain Spectacular said:
Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
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Did you download a lot of apps? Try moving the apps to the SD Card. The path is Menu-Settings-Applications-Manage applications-Downloaded. Then just click on the applications one at a time. If the button says Move to SD card, and isn't greyed out press it. That should free up some space. If that doesn't work since your not rooted, I would just try a factory reset.
clear the folder /data/tombstones. App crashes and such create rather large files that can eat up quite a bit of space. Also check the cache folder at the root, failed market installs will have file fragments in there as well.
I know that there's been a lot of issues with devices released with ICS (note 10.1 included!) where you can no longer get your application data to your SD Card. I'm just wondering if anyone has found a way around this? I'm running unrooted stock ROM at the moment (Haven't even had it for two weeks. As much as I want to root, I need to wait and see if a problem arises. ) so I'm unable to figure out a way to do it myself, right now.
Hopefully someone's found a way to achieve this, because 11GB of memory just isn't enough for the massive amount of data tablet apps contain.
In another thread, cunfus-ed, enlightened me to a way to move some apps and app related stuff to external . I was able to move some, not all. I'm unrooted by the way. Go into the my files app. Simply locate your apps and click hold and drag into the external sd folder. Voila.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853891&page=2
jaydubbbbs said:
In another thread, cunfus-ed, enlightened me to a way to move some apps and app related stuff to external . I was able to move some, not all. I'm unrooted by the way. Go into the my files app. Simply locate your apps and click hold and drag into the external sd folder. Voila.
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This really shouldn't work, if it does. That's just moving data from your device to SD, rather than creating some sort of link for the app to follow. :s
zaslamel42 said:
This really shouldn't work, if it does. That's just moving data from your device to SD, rather than creating some sort of link for the app to follow. :s
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Hey. It free up space is all i know
jaydubbbbs said:
Hey. It free up space is all i know
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True, lmao. I was looking more for a way of getting the app data to my SD with the apps still able to use it. Or hot swapping the main memory for the external.
Im just a simple guy with simple solutions. I don't use a lot of apps. I do photo editing and kitchen design mostly so it works good enough for me. I hear where you are coming from its not a true fix.
Thanks anyway, man.
y dont u use this method??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857391
I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
DHeffernan said:
I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
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I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
Tel864 said:
I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
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Thanks! Well from what I saw was is that there is apparently some sort of 'partition' for APPS? Which is not related to your overall storage, so it could depleet itself pretty quick?
I just don't know how exactly one increases this APP partition or what can be done about it? Basically the 1GB I see is meant for music/photos/videos etc.. APP installs go on a different partition all together.
Any idea about this?
I had this issue the other day, I rebooted the tab and it went away.
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
DHeffernan said:
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
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I couldn't get it to work on my tab. My Droid X & Droid Razor Maxx both have the option to move apps to the SD card under app settings. I don't know why the Tab doesn't.
Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
Tel864 said:
Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
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What do you mean? I don't even have a SD card currently installed in the device..
In a file manager if you look under mnt in the root directory you'll see an sdcard, that's the internal memory. An SD card will show up as ExtSdCard
I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Definitely NOT "unified" there is a 2.8GB partition for installing the APP apk's into then there is the internal storage of 4.59 GB (which is most likely where the OP has the 1.5 GB free).
OP- go into your application manager under settings and look at the bottom for Device Memory, it should be x.x GB of 2.8 GB (on the 8 GB models) this is most likely the area that is low on storage, as I have added less the 100 MB of apps and I have 1.8 GB used of the 2.8 GB so I imagine if you install games and stuff it would fill up real quick.
I believe there is a thread about moving apps to the "SD card" (remember in android you have 2 "sdcards" first is labeled sdcard and is actually the internal storage and second is labeled extsdcard and is your removable microsd card if you use one).
Related threads you should read on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679037
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014
Mr Anderson said:
I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Oh really? Well thanks for that info.. So that APP2SD app is for other types of devices?
At this point I can't re-download that Hill Climb game at all.. I've tried rebooting the device a few times now. Any other options left?
insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
rizzeh said:
insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
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How exactly do you do that?
Settings -> Apps -> scroll down till you find Google Play and Services Framework, tap on each and press clear data and cache
Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
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Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
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Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
DHeffernan said:
Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
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That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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Slavestate said:
That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
DHeffernan said:
Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
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If youve already uninstalled the app Lucky Patcher cant fix/remove it. You have to use a file manager and manually delete it from /data/app.
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My Nexus S (GT-I9020)keeps giving me an "insufficient storage" message. Particularly when updating "Google Newstand".
So I have cleared out lots of Photos and music and stuff. Cleared caches. Moved stuff to SD etc. Still keeps happening.
So while connected to my PC by USB, I ran "Treesize" on it, and it tells me that I have 9.87Gb free. What is the problem?
Of the few Gigabytes that are used, by far the biggest folder is called "DCIM", I know that this is where pictures are stored, but I have cleared out loads of photos. The largest file in there is called " thumbdata", at 966Mb by far the largest file on the entire phone. What is this waste of space? Can I delete it?
It seems that whenever I take a pic. with my phone, it is stored there, then a little while later a second copy appears thanks to Google upload or something, but the new copy is not as high res as the original. I do want Google to upload my photos back to my PC, but why does it have to send them back to the phone? How do I stop this? I spend too much time deleting copies of pics that are already on the phone in original. I think that the thumbnails folder is a result of all this.
The biggest memory hog after DCIM is Clockwork Mod, within it a folder called "blobs". What is it and can I delete it?
The Next biggest memory hog is called "TWRP". What is it? Can I delete it?
Is there a guide to what all these things mean and do, for us learners?
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My Nexus S (GT-I9020)keeps giving me an "insufficient storage" message. Particularly when updating "Google Newstand".
So I have cleared out lots of Photos and music and stuff. Cleared caches. Moved stuff to SD etc. Still keeps happening.
So while connected to my PC by USB, I ran "Treesize" on it, and it tells me that I have 9.87Gb free. What is the problem?
Of the few Gigabytes that are used, by far the biggest folder is called "DCIM", I know that this is where pictures are stored, but I have cleared out loads of photos. The largest file in there is called " thumbdata", at 966Mb by far the largest file on the entire phone. What is this waste of space? Can I delete it?
It seems that whenever I take a pic. with my phone, it is stored there, then a little while later a second copy appears thanks to Google upload or something, but the new copy is not as high res as the original. I do want Google to upload my photos back to my PC, but why does it have to send them back to the phone? How do I stop this? I spend too much time deleting copies of pics that are already on the phone in original. I think that the thumbnails folder is a result of all this.
The biggest memory hog after DCIM is Clockwork Mod, within it a folder called "blobs". What is it and can I delete it?
The Next biggest memory hog is called "TWRP". What is it? Can I delete it?
Is there a guide to what all these things mean and do, for us learners?
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how many apps in your device? u can check your remaining storage at setting>apps>downloaded...if the remaining is under 100mb...u need to delete some apps to update some apps...
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how many apps in your device? u can check your remaining storage at setting>apps>downloaded...if the remaining is under 100mb...u need to delete some apps to update some apps...
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I have 51 countable icons for apps, 102 in the list of "All apps." which includes all sorts of android stuff.
Under "downloaded" (36 apps) internal storage shows 784Mb used, 224Mb free.
Under USB it shows 3.4Gb used, 9.9Gb free. Aha! so that's what Treesize is looking at.
I get it, my 1Gb of internal storage is being used up. I will try and move more apps to USB.
Is that it?
also check your system partition, google apps often go there, if you're not rooted you wont be able to free space on it, the system partition is about 500MB large so it gets easily filled up, it contains your android rom and system apps
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monkey shoulder said:
I have 51 countable icons for apps, 102 in the list of "All apps." which includes all sorts of android stuff.
Under "downloaded" (36 apps) internal storage shows 784Mb used, 224Mb free.
Under USB it shows 3.4Gb used, 9.9Gb free. Aha! so that's what Treesize is looking at.
I get it, my 1Gb of internal storage is being used up. I will try and move more apps to USB.
Is that it?
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yes i think you must move some apps to sd, or delete it.... hope it will work