[Q] Definitely Root? - Captivate General

I have had a rooted G1 forever and clearly see the benefits to rooting the G1. My brother just got the Captivate.
1) What are the arguments for rooting the Capitvate? When I think about what rooting the G1 got me, it was mostly the updated operating system which the Captivate already has. I've found that most of the good "non-market" apps eventually make their way to the market.
2) Is Captivate Rooting easily reversable and relatively idiot proof? My brother's phone is a company phone.
Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks

You can actually download apps that you click a button to root or unroot it. I have not tried them but they are there. One is free too. They also have one click root and unroot programs for your computer. It's easy. Benefits. Root only apps. Custom tom if you want it
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There really is no argument for or against.
You can sideload apps without rooting, so in the end does he have a reason to root? If this is no, then don't do it.
I don't think you should look for a reason to root, but use the captivate and then determine if it is missing something you need. if it is, will root solve your problem, if yes then root.

alphadog00 said:
There really is no argument for or against.
I don't think you should look for a reason to root, but use the captivate and then determine if it is missing something you need. if it is, will root solve your problem, if yes then root.
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I think that is the best answer. It's pretty easy to do but if you don't need it then there is really no point.

Remove autostarting bloatware.
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I use it, so I can easily restore my ROM. Certain apps are "root only"...

I rooted because i wanted to underclock my cpu to increase my battery life. I consider everything else benefits(albeit great benefits). To each his own desire

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I need a reason to do this.

Why should I need to root my phone, I understand about bloatwares from AT&T but need a reason if I root It what will happen? Also once its rooted, will I be able to get update android 2.2? I need a good reason why I should root it. So please help me out with those list of reasons. Thank you.
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Seriously, put a little effort into searching this forum. Look at one of the other android forums. If you don't know why you would want to root your phone, then you don't need to do it.
That's the problem, all the search comes out different. That's why I am asking on here cuz nothing comes out right. You don't have to be mean or even post on here if You didn't like to hear it. I just want the real opinion and all those opinions will summerize.
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Here's the things I've done since I rooted:
To get rid of the ATT apps (this one is important because they launch for no reason).
To sideload apps right from the phone.
To change the appearance.
To really "own" my phone.
I really don't know beyond that. I guess if you're fine without rooting it then don't. I used it happily for 2 weeks without root, but I couldnt stand the invasive launching ATT bloat.
What about the update, if its rooted, can I still get in air update?
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Yes
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setcpu seems to be enough of a reason for me to root. seems to make a huge difference! will have to try and donate next payday

[Q] Why root?

Hi,
I'm new to android and nexus S and I tried to install some applications that need to be root.
I searched a little and did find out that are many ways to root. Some of them explained in xda-developers websites.
Before I do the root process I do like to know more about the security issues of doing that. Which risks I'll soffer by doind that? May I trust the code writted "not by" google developers? What is different in that?
Thanks,
Bruno.
it has nothing to do with all of the above
it's to gain super power
you can do all kind of thing when rooted, otherwise many apps will not work
you don't need to root to use the phone, you can always find alternative app that does not require root, probably with less feature and options
non-root is to protect newbies from damaging the phone
only 1337 people root their phones to hack the innards out of it, to master control the phone to do things only imagination can provide.
I would say the main number one reason to root would be to use an app like Titanium Backup to save your settings/applications. There are also some nice utilities to have, like ad blockers and other stuff that require root privileges.
As stated, it's not really something that you need to do, it's more for power users who want total control of their device.
there are new Backup software that does not require root, like MyBackup
but it sucks compared to TitaniumBackup
however the PAID version of MyBackup Pro or something like that, can do sort of the same thing like TitaniumBackup can do without ROOT
but still shys in comparison to TB
its already been said, but the point of rooting is you gain complete super power over your device. so many things can be done with root, great custom ROMs out there. its a no brainer, and i was undecided about it at first too. but once i rooted, i'll never go back. there are too many advantages to list, and not one negative reason to avoid rooting.
No point
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
jeremyt727 said:
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
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CM7 itself is all you need to make you want to root. It's so easy to root.
Also. Voodoo Sound is another good reason, Voodoo Sound is simply amazing
Nexus S was built to be hacked. Use it for it's primary reason why it was built.
because you can is enough of a reason to
In simple words, you get administrative access to ur kernel !
How can I root my nexus S?
Explained in threads in Nexus S Android Development section
Check this thread.

Is rooting worth it?

Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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If root isn't worth it for you (depending on apps you are using and if you are a developer), then at least a custom recovery is. Making backups is quite an obsession, but can save u weeks of work.
show-p1984 said:
If root isn't worth it for you (depending on apps you are using and if you are a developer), then at least a custom recovery is. Making backups is quite an obsession, but can save u weeks of work.
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What exactly is a custom recovery? Sorry I'm really new to this kind of stuff. I didn't even know you could change the homescreen until today and no, I'm definitely not a developer
So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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dritz33 said:
So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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- Make screenshots.
- Run a firewall to keep apps offline that don't need internet but use it anyway.
- Control app permissions.
- Block ads.
- Tether your internet, even if your carrier doesn't support it.
- Make full backups of your data, apps,, and settings.
- Auto-sync your clock with a time server.
- Undervolt for longer battery life, overclock to make your phone faster.
And much more.
dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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I'd say YES! Personally its the Best thing I've ever done with my phone! Here's a few Incentives...
1.) Wireless Tether
2.) Increased Cpu Speed
3.) Better Battery Life
4.) Nandroid Backup
(Which basically Allows you to Fix Anything you may of messed up)
5.) New Custom Roms!!!
hi all, me to very new to this forum, and thought of asking questions regarding , what is rooting and what are the +vs of it. I get most from above replies thank you all for that, i have few more question.
1.) Does rooted phone UI will be stock version ?
2.) what may be possible -vs / disadvantages of rooting?
3.)what are Custom Roms, i see in many threads - yup am completely noob
thanks,
merin
dritz33 said:
What exactly is a custom recovery? Sorry I'm really new to this kind of stuff. I didn't even know you could change the homescreen until today and no, I'm definitely not a developer
So then what all can I do with rooting my phone then?
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a custom recovery system is used to flash zip files that are not signed (correct me if im wrong)
i suck at explaining things.
in your case you will be using a bootstrapper (just think of it as a custom recovery system, dont get confused)
once you learn and read more and see the benefits then you can decide if rooting is an option you want.
merin_83 said:
1.) Does rooted phone UI will be stock version ?
2.) what may be possible -vs / disadvantages of rooting?
3.)what are Custom Roms, i see in many threads - yup am completely noob
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1) Yes. Rooting gives you access to the system files and folders. It doesn't change anything else, unless you start changing things after you've rooted your phone.
2) Plenty of advantages. The only disadvantage is that rooted phones are not covered by warranty. You can get your warranty back by unrooting, but if something on your phones breaks that prevents you from unrooting you're out of luck.
3) Modified versions of Android. It's a bit like all the different versions of Linux for computers.
Definitely the best thing I have ever done to my Fascinate!
Thank you rogier666..
you explained everything...
Defiantly i want to root... But before that i guess i should do bit research on which version i should use O
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Unbelievably worth it in my opinion!
It opens up a whole new world of possibilities and fine tuning. In addition to this, you can often talk to the people who develop some of the custom roms/features and receive direct support. Also, this scale of developing usually means any problems are corrected within a week (instead of within 4-6 months from the manufacturer). Having the ability to make nandroid backups (think of them as save states) is yet another wonderful feature.
Happy rooting!
dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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Don't be Fooled by the Pessimists!
Rooting your phones the Most fun you can have with your Pants On!
Lol... Nah but Seriously its Definitely Worth it!
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No your battery life will not be shorter if you flash the correct way, make sure you have it fully charged then flash. After this you drain it all the way and then charge it all the way. Do it again (twice) then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. I think this is correct, I may have the steps switched around and someone correct me if i am wrong. Overall, many custom roms actually give you better battery life.
To Root or Not To Root, That is the Question
The decision to root your phone is highly dependent on your personality and background.
For example, many people "just want it to work." This basically means that they don't care how it works, they just want to use the device as-advertised. They expect the device to give them what they pay for. Their priorities are elsewhere.
This gets a little more complicated because rooting is basically tearing down a wall that is hiding additional functionality. The complication comes from the person knowing the extra functionality is behind that wall and finding value in that extra functionality. The question of whether rooting is "useful" depends on how much value the person puts on that addition functionality (minus the potential headache of figuring out to root).
An example is tethering to access the internet with a laptop by connecting to the phone via wifi, USB, or other means. For tethering, service providers charge about $20-$30 which can be gotten for free with rooting + the appropriate apps. That's an obvious value. The cost is when the service provider decides to try to block that tethering which can be a headache trying to circumvent. There are also the moral implications...
Other reasons may be to
- learn the unknown -- who knows, you might try to make an app to do what you want to do and get paid. you could dig into the kernel and become an expert, you could start creating themes and become skilled at visual/UI design.
- control the bull$#!^ that your service provider is trying to feed you (media, ads, pay apps, etc). remove all those junk apps that they force upon you too.
- impress the ladies -- seriously, if you can get them facegoogle+ in a car on a road trip they may nod a googlyface in the future. nerd girls get their own by definition, don't try, just belong.
dritz33 said:
Hello, I have a Motorola Droid X, and was wondering if it was worth while to root it. My dad has a rooted phone, and I kind of think it's cool some if the stuff you can do. But, I don't think I totally understand rooting yet.
So because if this I'm wondering if there is anything that makes it worth rooting ? I've also seen some of the custom themes and stuff that you can get on a rooted phone. Do those make your battery life a lot shorter?
Thanks for any help I can get
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My opinion is it depends on the particular device and what the root consists of. I have an Inspire 4G that I won't root because it just works too well as is and the root process is super-duper ugly and convoluted. However, I also have a Nexus S and, although it works perfectly fine without rooting, I have it root because the rooting process is simple and straightforward and the bootloader is open to being unlocked by a normal means rather than an ugly hack. And I only use root on my Nexus S to use certain apps that require root. I don't flash any other ROMs and I even allowed it to return to the original recovery image. Also I relocked the bootloader.
The only difference between my Nexus S and it's original state is the super-simple root. In fact, the only way to tell my Nexus S is different is to run an app that requires root. The app will work on mine and not on the original.
I wil do it olsow
+1 - well said
rogier666 said:
- Make screenshots.
- Run a firewall to keep apps offline that don't need internet but use it anyway.
- Control app permissions.
- Block ads.
- Tether your internet, even if your carrier doesn't support it.
- Make full backups of your data, apps,, and settings.
- Auto-sync your clock with a time server.
- Undervolt for longer battery life, overclock to make your phone faster.
And much more.
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[Q] Can someone explain what is gained by rooting your G2X?

I have done custom ROMS on my old HTC TP2 so I kind of get it, but what do you gain by rooting your G2X? Right now I have a stock G2X thar is unlocked. I'm sure you can install new ROMS after being rooted, but does the good outweigh the bad. What I am trying to say is yes I agree that a stock phone has some bugs, but overall it works and does what it is supposed to. But rooting? I see post after post on this forum of bugs after bugs and questions after questions about something not working after rooting. So far it seems like a hassle and a whole world of endless misery. I gotta say that I am impressed how you create new roms to work on our phone, but how about a 1 button fix that does everything from rooting to installing a new ROM without the bugs so us newbs don't have to ask a million questions and download endless Apps to make it work correctly. Another words I'm not sold on the idea unless I'm missing something. On my HTC TP2 I had no choice but to enter into the realm of no return because the phone was a snail POS to begin with. So now I ask, what can I expect, I mean the phone stock is pretty good?
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
I got some experience rooting when a friend of mine asked if I could turn his nook color into an Android tablet. I learned more doing that than I did in 4 years of high school.
Rooting & modding isn't for everybody. If you think your G2x is fine the way it is, then leave it alone.
wireless tethering
You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
rooting allows the use of some good custom apps. Titanium backup for example. Paid version allows one click to restore all apps.
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Beekersguy said:
I guess if you're not willing to learn some stuff and get your hands dirty, then maybe rooting this phone isn't for you. There's no "one-click-and-done" for this device.
It has staggering potential if you are willing to learn rooting & modding. There are some really great roms available that make this phone more functional, fun, and pretty.
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What do you mean more "functional"?
edmcrocker said:
wireless tethering
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If what you mean by "wireless tethering", you mean using your phone as a wireless router, than I don't understand because I can do that now without being rooted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
shovelhead83 said:
You don't need root to install custom roms. Just install nvflash.
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I am really interested in hearing more about this. Where can I get nvflash? Is this something that will screw up my phone if I don't do it right? So after installing nvflash, I can just flash any ROM, just like that?
Plain and simple. If you want to be able to control every aspect of your phone: root. If your happy the way things are. Keep things the way they are.
AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
jsapp said:
AdFree. That is all the reason you need. And before I get flamed, I buy paid versions of apps I use, but on the ones paid isn't available, I block the ads. Can't stand them.
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True, number one reason to root. I decided to root because of that lol.
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Look at it this way.
With root, you are the phone's God.
Without root, you are the phone's *****.
Plain and simple.
Winning!
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Opinions on Rooting

OK I'm going to ask the million dollar question... Is rooting my Tab 7 Plus worth the risk? I understand it adds a lot of customization and more I'm sure. Is it worth the risk though? How likely am I to kill this thing/will bight me in the butt down the road.
Rooting your GT+ is totally harmless. What you do after you root your device may harm it. There are excellent applications that need root and that is why you want to do it. But at the same time if you are not sure of an application and give it root privileges, well is like giving a thief the key of your safe.
By the way, if you want to get rid of the root and are not too experienced, factory reset your device and the root is gone.
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Zadeis said:
OK I'm going to ask the million dollar question... Is rooting my Tab 7 Plus worth the risk? I understand it adds a lot of customization and more I'm sure. Is it worth the risk though? How likely am I to kill this thing/will bight me in the butt down the road.
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That's a really difficult question to answer for anyone other than yourself. Rooting the tablet isn't as risky as modifying the engine in a car (which is a physical modification in most cases), but more risky than just installing (or uninstalling) an application.
Are you happy using the tablet as-is? If so, don't root it. Leave it alone. I honestly don't think a person SHOULD root the device just for the sake of rooting it.
If there's a specific reason why you want to, then go for it. However, learn as much as you can about what you are doing and what the risks are BEFORE you do it. Keep in mind that it's a slippery slope. First you root it, then you start installing recoveries, alternate firmware, different kernels, etc. It's VERY EASY to get caught up in all the tinkering. I can offer one bit of comfort: It's actually not that easy to completely brick a samsung device. As long as the bootloader is intact, you can always use ODIN to restore it to factory condition.
Good luck
Gary
Well thank you for the general knowledge. I think on it more and maybe throw a thought on here later after thinking on it more. I am happy with it as is but we'll see what happens as I am very new to the android environment. This is my first android based device I have ever owned/ used really.
The ONLY reason really pushing me to root it is the fact I have a GPS app on my TAB that doesn't install it's maps to the sd but actually to the main internal memory. That's irked me ever since I got it when I have a nice nearly empty 16GB SD card sitting inside my TAB.
Stupid question - is there a way to root the Samsung 7 yet revealed that doesn't involve a bootloader?
I would really hate to do anything that could mess up upgrading to ICS when it comes out, but I need to root to make the VPN do anything useful (like connect to our IPSec VPN with group authentication at work)
Right now I am stuck using VNC on my Samsung Epic 4G if I dont have my laptop handy and need to connect to my linux workspace. Needless to say, the experience using it on a cell phone is less than ideal.
All you have to do is flash a zip file using the existing recovery. All it does is add su. I don't know of any root that is simpler and safer than that.
IMO, rooting is a must and like the others have said, you need root to use backup apps and such. To me, it's a necessity.
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Stupid question - is there a way to root the Samsung 7 yet revealed that doesn't involve a bootloader?
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Rooting the SGT7+ does NOT touch the bootloader.
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