meego? - G1 Android Development

i love android... but would it be possable to port meego to the g1?

First of... wrong section...
and btw...
WTF is meego?

Meego is what moblin became when intel (who started the moblin project) joined forces with nokia and merged with nokia maemo. There are several versions of meego including a mobile handset version (which i assume he is talking about.) http://thecoolgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/meego-os-for-nokia-n900-smartphone.jpg
As to weather its possible or not i dont know (if it can run ubuntu then it can more than lightly run meego but it will need re-compilation.)
Any one want to give compiling meego for the G1 a go? you already have the subsystem stuff (check any android rom / cyanogens source)

I would really love to try Meego. At the very least for ****s & giggles. It can't be any worse then Android 2.2 on the Dream.

it may well run faster, it dosnt need a JVM to run it ui lol

This might be the future.
Meego might become what android should have been: a free and open source, community friendly handset/ mobile device OS. Given that it's tailor-made for handsets and much more open to community involvement than android, there's no reason it can't become a powerful alternative to android.
It should also be relatively free from patent suits, at least compared to Android. I'm not sure if google has covered Android's ass in that department, and this could jeopardize android development.
I hope not. I don't see why android shouldn't continue to prosper, but I think it has fallen short in terms of community involvement. Why is it that the hacker community that made its existence possible is the last to receive source code for its updates?
Anyway, my point is I'd love to see Meego development for android phones, just as people have developed Android for windows mobile phones. Free and Open Source software is all about choice, after all.

sabianadmin said:
it may well run faster, it dosnt need a JVM to run it ui lol
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so hows [Query] CM5 8 based sense rom going?

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WebOS port to Android devices possible???

i dont have an andorid device or anything (yet) but its a known fact that the Palm Pre's OS (WebOS) which may turn out to be a success is run under linux as is the Android platform. Now im no programmer but from hearing that i might think that it could be possibly ported and it could be easier to do than Winmo
flame away if im totally nuts
but is it possible???
i think this is a good ? imo! It would be something to tinker with but since the phone just came out 1'st you would have to find somebody willing to dump the os
You're gay. Why can you think that ?
funbacon said:
You're gay. Why can you think that ?
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Talk about something that is completely uncalled for. Have you ever heard of constructive criticism or is that another concept that is lost in translation to you?
Gimpeh said:
Talk about something that is completely uncalled for. Have you ever heard of constructive criticism or is that another concept that is lost in translation to you?
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In his defense, he did say "flame away" I do agree with you though...not called for.
I think that it would be a difficult undertaking even if it is able to be done. I don't know if it can be done, however, I do know that IF it can, someone here at xda will do it.
mike21pr said:
i dont have an andorid device or anything (yet) but its a known fact that the Palm Pre's OS (WebOS) which may turn out to be a success is run under linux as is the Android platform.
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WebOS is based on linux, but it's not linux any more than Mac OSX is unix. It's not easily transferrable by simply scraping the files out and dumping them on another device. Drivers have to be written for hardware and to account for buttons that the Pre/intended device does not have.
Android is easy to port because it's open, the source (which shows how the software works down to the smallest code) can be downloaded by anybody and tinkered with. Palm will not be releasing the source of WebOS to the community, so any hacking or porting is significantly more difficult.
Now, should it be attempted? At this point, probably not. If you want WebOS, jump on Sprint's dying network to grab one.
Personally, I don't see Palm making a comeback very well, especially if they've chosen Sprint as their premier network. As a former Sprint customer, I can certainly say that they're a sinking ship right now. Neither the Instinct nor the Pre will be able to raise them up again, they have to go further than just 'cool' hardware.
And as for WebOS, see where it stands in a few months. All news was quiet on more Android phones for about three months after it was released, but by then, the amount of applications (and the release of paid applications) and users gave the phone the momentum it needed. If WebOS obtains that kind of momentum, great, then it might be good to consider. But until it attains the kind of ubiquity that Windows Mobile or Android will hold, it's a bit of an early jump, no?
We might as well port the iPhone OS to the Dream.
jordanjay29 said:
We might as well port the iPhone OS to the Dream.
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NOOOOOOO i will break your phone if you do that, we bought these phones for their openess, not to be locked down by apple.
Not the mention that WebOS is build for an OMAP3 CPU, which has the ARM7 based architecture. So without the source, we may never be able to port it over properly.)
Is WebOS opensource? Or only the linux that it runs on?
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Is WebOS opensource? Or only the linux that it runs on?
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The latter.
I don't think Palm is forward-thinking (or cash-flush) enough nowadays to open source webOS. This (as well as the whole one-foot-in-the-grave situation of the past five years) makes me think that despite webOS' flashiness, it may not have much longevity.
I wonder if Palm will license out webOS though. They have licensed out Palm OS in the past, so it's not out of the question. I don't think they can compete in the marketplace if they try copying apple with a single-licensee strategy. Not when options like Android, Symbian, and WinMo can be found on multiple devices from many manufacturers on many carriers.
Good idea. Just to give people an option is pretty cool.
funbacon said:
You're gay. Why can you think that ?
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Isn't it about time this guy gets banned? 90% of his posts are ripping on somebody or their work.
I'm all for another OS to get ported to the dream just for kicks, and to contrast how great and versatile android really is . I must agree with many above in saying it would be very difficult and a long way off if so.
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Isn't it about time this guy gets banned? 90% of his posts are ripping on somebody or their work.
I'm all for another OS to get ported to the dream just for kicks, and to contrast how great and versatile android really is . I must agree with many above in saying it would be very difficult and a long way off if so.
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i was thinking of porting android to the pre... made a post about this too.

ios dual boot

what is this anyone had a go..
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
does it work.
I don't trust it.
I mean, how did they manage to do it? Apple hasn't released the source code for iOS.
thought it was suspect, download is not there. if you can put android on iphone then surely ios on htc android device is possible
"Anything is possible", but what makes it impossible in this case, is that it is not anywhere near possible.
I'm sorry, but did you read what I said above? Apple has not released the source code for iOS. Meaning, how would devs how to port it?
Google has released the source code for Android, so devs know how to port it to the iPhone.
yes i understood, same old apple monopolize scenario ... can the the source not be extracted from a device. forgive me im no dev
Lawl the source code certainly on the device. The source code is never supplied along with a system/program, or else it'd be easy for piracy and what not, unless it is open source like LINUX. If it were, we'd have iOS years ago on winmo, sybian, webOS, you name it.
Besides the fact it's obviously fake, there's nothing in the repository.
Having played with Gingerbread with Sense 3.0 I wouldn´t want to have iOS on my screen for anything in the world
Good luck i hope they get it working, but for the life of me I can't ever think of a reason to want to use IOS besides, the article is way off on how Iphones have good battery life. That really is not the case, at least for anyone I know and me who have had Iphones in the past
I cant imagine as well why someone would want to have ios and android in the same time, its just damn. Oh, and its really impossible without the ios source-code to do it.
Mmmh ... you shouldn't try that. I think is not safe.
The guy hasn't committed any work on the project yet. He's just reserved the name under a license.
It's not unsafe... It's just not done yet.
AdamOutler said:
The guy hasn't committed any work on the project yet. He's just reserved the name under a license.
It's not unsafe... It's just not done yet.
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I don't remember what part of the forums I saw this but honestly this one member has that on his phone and he was asking on here how he could set the icons for his phone to the iPad version because the size of his phone screen was larger than that of the iPhone 4. The only reason why the dev stopped working on it is because of a seize and desist letter from Apple. How he got the source code is unknown but it is known that Apple went after him with a seize and desist as iOS is not open source. How he got the source code is unknown and if he had finished this project iOS would have been immediately jeopardized and this dev would have faced some serious consequences from Apple. I don't blame him for stopping the project but I would have loved to be one of the beta testers when he had his downloads open. DARN.....
Actually if you google "Hackintosh" you will see that you can run non-open source software on devices that were not designed for the OS.
I'm not saying you can or would want to run iOS on your device just that it is highly feasible that someone, somewhere will do it at some point!
It's also worth pointing out that it would be illegal to do so, and it would not be half as eay to extend through drivers and apps as android which is based on the much more mature codebase of the linux kernel.
Also worth thinking about is that you could program your way to an easier to use, dar i say it more ios-like device by contributing to android and there are more ways than just programming.
Idk if I would want to dual boot iOS on my android. But YOU would want to boot android on A iOS device!
From a developer standpoint, without illegally obtaining source code it'd be easier to build your own OS than to dual-boot iOS
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From a developer standpoint, without illegally obtaining source code it'd be easier to build your own OS than to dual-boot iOS
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Well that's an alternative but what if the main reason why people want this dual boot is to get the best of both worlds? Building an entirely new OS sure is a good idea but when you're the only one developing for it....I don't see that much fun in it. Android and IOS would be pretty rad on an android phone especially on a Samsung Galaxy S2 for T-Mobile......at some point I bet this will be done anonymously which could lead to chaos in the development world. However, with the way Apple ensures those things never happen, it's a longshot....this is quite an achievement from this individual who was able to dualboot both OS's on a different device other than an iPhone. I for one would have loved to be part of that beta team but maybe someday it will come alive again. Who knows.....
Why would you willingly put iOS on your phone? May as well buy an iPhone cause as dysfunctional as iPhones are they are suited for iOS
Now something about this seems really fishy to me. It says that you will be using a jailbroke iPad 2 firmware. Now as far as I know the iPad 2 has not been jailbroken yet, not even with a tethered jailbreak. I know this because I spent like 4 hours this evening reading up on how to jailbreak iOS 5 cause I have a friend that wants me to jailbreak her iPhone 4 with the iOS update.
Facincting and cool ....developers are so brilliant

[Q] Android App Emulator

I'm much like several of the people who bought TouchPads in the recent firesale. I absolutely love WebOs and the device in general but the thing that's bothering me is that the app selection is absolutely horrible! I know that there is an Android App Emulator on the PlayBook, is it possible for something like that to show up on the TouchPad? I love WebOS and I don't really want to give it up for only Android. I'm sure tons of people would really like something like this on their new Touchpads. Thanks!
Sounds like a great idea hmm...
I agree. I think that porting Dalvik to WebOS might be the best move to give us the Android apps and still let us easily use Linux, including ubuntu apps.
Well the problem would be the license..
lol...good point
license issues?
I thought it was opensource/freeware? How else could Cyanogen, etc., do what they do?
is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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You took the words right out of my mouth!!
I'm actually trying to find developers for the exact same thing. It should be doable. Alien Dalvik was made in Qt which was ported to WebOS so in theory it's entirley doable. the only question is if there are any developers free to take it on that aren't currently working on a full Android OS port.
I'd really like to get a development team set up for this because alot of people would like to keep WebOS and just have a larger app catalog.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. We should look for a dev who could possibly have experience it Qt, though that's not completely necessary. If we gain more support, I'll post a dev thread.
I can't offer anything other than Beer/Pizza money but this is a great idea. WebOS is generally well reviewed and not looked at as a problem so much as a benefit. The OS is solid. The App Catalog is not.
Android Emulator :-D
I would love see a emulator on my TP. I would like to be able to place Android on the device I still much prefer the UI and design on WebOS even though Android is far more capable.
I'm happy to donate to this cause should someone take it up
alien dalvik is not open source, however, dalvik in general as well as the whole android os is under the apache license, this can be modified, forked and reworked (such as myriad turbo/alien dalvik) without having to release the source, its obviously possible... But you know what would be easier, porting android as a whole... Even dual booting would be easier.
Well the allure of this is having the superior Android app selection on the arguably better tablet experience of WebOS. If that were made possible - I wouldn't care about having Android on the device.
I couldn't agree more. As an OG Pre owner I love webOS but couldn't fight everything I can do with Android.
If I could get all my Android apps and keep my TP the way it is would be perfect.
The problem with porting Android right now is we have to use 2.3 which is for phones and not 3.2. I would rather either wait for ICS/4.0 for a port or just get the app market working.
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That settles it there are enoght people interested in having a standalone WebOs android app emulator without having full android.. I'm starting a development thread, doing some preliminary work, and going to look for a few interested developers to work with on getting this going. My touchpad comes tomorrow so then i can really get into it..
Thanks Roto I was just about to do the same.
also, Roto post a link
Up. Beer on me
Here is the link to the development thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16904876#post16904876
Failhard since you and I were the first to put in work on this idea i'd like you to help me head the project and find volunteer talent if you're up to it.
I took a look into what goes into a Dalvik port... it's TOTALLY doable just a matter of time and effort..
Unfortunately after i return to college in a week time will be in short supply for me so ALL help is appreciated!
I had never used WebOS before getting a tablet this last weekend. I have been an android fan for smartphones for now (I am willing to move to something better when it is available, otherwise stick to what works). I am a web designer/user interface designer and since starting using WebOS this last weekend, when it comes to the OS and its default apps that come with it, it is clear WebOS has the best user interface of the tablets (I used both iOS and Android OSes 1.5-3.2, Windows 7 tablets don't really count as a tablet OS and that is clear when using it on tablets).
The Android Emulator would be a great idea, but if you want quick development specifically for WebOS, we need to get a program created that can easily and painlessly port android apps to WebOS apps. Also it will take HP courting and reassuring the big players like Netflix, Hulu, Corporate IT Software Development companies that WebOS is viable and have continued support.
HP/WebOS only has a short amount of time to really establish itself. Next summer is rumored to be Windows 8 release and Windows 8 tablets coming. If Windows 8 can create a good tablet interface (WebOS is the one to beat imo atm as it has the number 1 interface), plus it's strong backing of games, program/application support and being able to integrate phone, xbox, tablet, and PC (Desktops and Laptops). Windows 8 is the biggest threat to anyone in the tablet market at the moment imo and they have been very successful in many of their endeavors as of late ("don't poke the sleeping giant" comes to mind, google and Apple have done that).
Due this short Window of time (pun partially intended), we have to establish WebOS as a main competitor to Google and Apple and prepare it for the onslaught of Windows 8. We need to work as a community to get things rolling and we need to push HP to court the big players in the industry to produce apps and content for WebOS and to continue further development on the operating system on their end. If we as a community and HP execute right, it will be a very exciting year coming up.

iOS port on Android device?

I read that for a port or custom rom to be made an OS has to be open source to be legal so i saw that the apple made all of his software open source so i think that some developers can try to port or the entire OS or parts of it,sorry if my post is a duplicate or so on ,the last post like this was 2 years ago..so developers you can play with the files and see if is a chance to make something with it
opensource.apple.com
Your mistaken, ios is closed source.
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mistermentality said:
Your mistaken, ios is closed source.
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he did say that it was closed source and now he provides a link to the open sources...
you are crazy it is impossible
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he did say that it was closed source and now he provides a link to the open sources...
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And if you follow his link you will see the source is not the operating system code. That is closed source so no it is not open.
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It will never be possible, iOS donąt give permission to port iOS on Android.
ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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You can't port it. There's nothing out there that you could port. That's closed source. Its impossible.
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ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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Tell Apple to make iOS open source like android
I didn't get a chance to edit the post lol, i did see that there was no source mentioned in the website.
But who would like iOS in our android device??
i would for bragging to my friends but never actually use it
I gave up any hopes for this a long time ago. As people have said the actual OS source code isn't fully open-sourced and you can also be pretty sure that Apple would hit anybody kinda hard for any sort of port.
Just think of the stunts you could pull if you could buy a 4S and a Nexus or SII or the likes and put iOS on SII or Nexus and Android OS on the 4S....I would do it just to mess with all my Crapple fanboi friends.....
Lol legal chicken again
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It's not just about the source ...
OSX and IOS are based on BSD, which is Free Software, but not strong copyleft, meaning you can fork and close your source. Apple created Darwin, which is based on BSD, then used that as the basis for OSX and IOS. This is just the kernel and some basic utilities, the rest is closed source. The only sources published are for x86 and PPC, not the ARM port.
But Apple is a naughty, naughty company. I've tried to compile their sources more than once. Even when the sources are available, they are IMPOSSIBLE to compile. It's a typical workaround that companies use to steal Free Software. Oh, yes, here is the code: [Big blob of undocumented code with no makefile and no instructions]. You don't have their kitchen, you can't get it working.
But I do predict three things that will eventually happen:
a) As processing power increases in phones, someone will run IOS inside an emulator inside an Android phone
b) Someone will port Android to the iPhone hardware, but iPhone's release cycle and lack of drivers will make it unsuccessful and unstable.
c) Phone hardware will get progressively more generic, and we'll reach a point where we'll have OEM phones that are more or less generic, and we'll get the equivalent of the hackintosh.
Not going to happen. Ha.
iOS is closed source, and yet if you want iOS then just jump ship already. You're with android, so stick with android.
Overall a better OS anyways.
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Not going to happen. Ha.
iOS is closed source, and yet if you want iOS then just jump ship already. You're with android, so stick with android.
Overall a better OS anyways.
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IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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yeah.but cant tether/reverse tether or kill entire wifi & destroy wlan drivers of any devices connected inside specific APN's...
z33dev33l said:
IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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I don't know how can you "hack" an android phone to have better dev tools, stronger ecosystem or more apps ?!
z33dev33l said:
ios has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated ui, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iphones already have.
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please do not feed the troll.

On porting Windows RT to other ARM systems...

I don't see any other threads on this topic; there doesn't seem to be any serious discussion on porting Windows RT to run on non-official tablets and other ARM systems (raspberry pi for example).
It seems the main hurdle is that Windows RT requires an UEFI bootloader. Apart from a couple of development boards (ARM Versatile Express for example), there isn't any widespread ARM product that has this. Two things: what happens if one tries to boot windows rt from a UEFI capable development board? Second: if the first test shows some success, it would be worth the effort to write an UEFI emulation bootloader like Chameleon for x86.
Can someone with more experience chime in about possible complications and other issues to worry about?
I know it's been done; there are screenshots and such of Windows RT running on HTC HD2 (Leo) smartphone (which was released as a WinMo 6.5 device, but has had WP7, Android, Maemo, Ubuntu, and $DEITY knows what else ported to it).
That said, I don't expect it will be easy for the wide variety of devices. If nothing else, the drivers for all the hardware may be difficult to come by.
I see it. Has any more info come out of it? Was it just uefi emulation?
I want my Acer Iconia A500 to run windows rt. But no one started porting rt to any other Android devices.
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(raspberry pi for example)
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Raspberry Pi is using ARMv6, Windows NT works only on ARMv7 Cortex A9-MP.
I know it's been done; there are screenshots and such of Windows RT running on HTC HD2 (Leo) smartphone (which was released as a WinMo 6.5 device, but has had WP7, Android, Maemo, Ubuntu, and $DEITY knows what else ported to it).
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Yes, it's running on HTC LEO by DFT team. It's not fake.
It seems the main hurdle is that Windows RT requires an UEFI bootloader.
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It's not main hurdle, it's start hurdle. Actually there are much more things after that.
If we are talking about full working system or almost working system the next "hurdles" can be 10x times harder.
there isn't any widespread ARM product that has this.
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BeagleBoard has UEFI bootloader AFAIK. we are used some useful information from there.
It's based on EDK2 kit, MAGLDR-UEFI also based on it as well Surface RT UEFI bootloader.
At the end you forgot the most important thing:
It's a question of legality. While Android and some other OSes are almost free and partially open sourced, Windows RT is closed source system and it's not possible legally install it to any device. System needs activation and etc. Ever information about it.
Some people may say at this point: "ha n00bs, true [email protected] never th1nk ab0ut that", "who care about MS?", "everything should be free"
, but truth actually is different. I am already noticed that
It's why DFT is so careful with spreading any information about that.
Cotulla speaks the truth. Installing RT to systems that didn't come with it means making copies of RT from some other source. Legally speaking, that's almost certainly going to be software piracy, and it's possible that MS would care enough about it to come after this site. That would be bad... This is one of the reasons for the strict anti-piracy rule here.
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Raspberry Pi is using ARMv6, Windows NT works only on ARMv7 Cortex A9-MP.
Yes, it's running on HTC LEO by DFT team. It's not fake.
It's not main hurdle, it's start hurdle. Actually there are much more things after that.
If we are talking about full working system or almost working system the next "hurdles" can be 10x times harder.
BeagleBoard has UEFI bootloader AFAIK. we are used some useful information from there.
It's based on EDK2 kit, MAGLDR-UEFI also based on it as well Surface RT UEFI bootloader.
At the end you forgot the most important thing:
It's a question of legality. While Android and some other OSes are almost free and partially open sourced, Windows RT is closed source system and it's not possible legally install it to any device. System needs activation and etc. Ever information about it.
Some people may say at this point: "ha n00bs, true [email protected] never th1nk ab0ut that", "who care about MS?", "everything should be free"
, but truth actually is different. I am already noticed that
It's why DFT is so careful with spreading any information about that.
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Sorry, by main hurdle I mean why there isn't much public work on it. I know it would be hard to port a system. And I did not know RPI is armv6 so forget about that. Obviously I understand the legality, but I'm not thinking about widespread releases. I'm looking more into what that dft team did which is just doing something to prove it can be done.
Well since TI demoed windows 8 RT on a TI OMAP 4470 system there has to be a build out there for it. I have a SmartQ X7 which also has the TI OMAP 4470/SGX544 chipset, I'd like to try Windows 8 RT on it as I am sure it would run quite well.
Here Engadget has an article about it.
So should be quite possible I'd think?
Sorry, by main hurdle I mean why there isn't much public work on it. I know it would be hard to port a system. And I did not know RPI is armv6 so forget about that. Obviously I understand the legality, but I'm not thinking about widespread releases. I'm looking more into what that dft team did which is just doing something to prove it can be done.
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Actually we never wanted to "prove that something can be done". We just doing our hobby in spare time.
Ever we run WP8 on old phone, it doesn't mean that MS faked all users. They had reasons and I understand them. Project was started long time ago before it was officially known that WP7 won't be updated to WP8.
From outside view it can look like we wanted to say "Hey MS lies, WP7 devices can run WP8!", but it's not
People look interested to view hobby results, as well we try to provide them some fun. like WP7 HSPL provided fun for ROM cookers, for homebrew apps developers, and those before provided fun for users who like to test new stuff and play with own phone.
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Actually we never wanted to "prove that something can be done". We just doing our hobby in spare time.
Ever we run WP8 on old phone, it doesn't mean that MS faked all users. They had reasons and I understand them. Project was started long time ago before it was officially known that WP7 won't be updated to WP8.
From outside view it can look like we wanted to say "Hey MS lies, WP7 devices can run WP8!", but it's not
People look interested to view hobby results, as well we try to provide them some fun. like WP7 HSPL provided fun for ROM cookers, for homebrew apps developers, and those before provided fun for users who like to test new stuff and play with own phone.
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What you did was pretty awesome, and I also want to do it. Your work is yours so I'm not going to try to persuade you to give any info, but I want to get Windows RT running on other devices to show that it can be done (not to prove that Microsoft lied but to test my own (and anyone helping's) skills).
Porting to SAMSUNG GALAXY tab 2
Any idea, if it can be done porting to SAMSUNG GALAXY tab 2 ?
Does the hardware fits? As I read, I believe it's fits (like Microsoft surface ARM device).
What do i need to do?
Thanks in Advance!
Any news? I'm thinking about buying an terra 1001 pad :
https://www.google.nl/#hl=nl&sclien...94,d.d2k&fp=3cf597d2212ac5a5&biw=1366&bih=674
Man guys.. just get a Surface RT or Vivo Tab.
Wouldn't it be nice
Cotulla said:
Raspberry Pi is using ARMv6, Windows NT works only on ARMv7 Cortex A9-MP.
Yes, it's running on HTC LEO by DFT team. It's not fake.
It's not main hurdle, it's start hurdle. Actually there are much more things after that.
If we are talking about full working system or almost working system the next "hurdles" can be 10x times harder.
BeagleBoard has UEFI bootloader AFAIK. we are used some useful information from there.
It's based on EDK2 kit, MAGLDR-UEFI also based on it as well Surface RT UEFI bootloader.
At the end you forgot the most important thing:
It's a question of legality. While Android and some other OSes are almost free and partially open sourced, Windows RT is closed source system and it's not possible legally install it to any device. System needs activation and etc. Ever information about it.
Some people may say at this point: "ha n00bs, true [email protected] never th1nk ab0ut that", "who care about MS?", "everything should be free"
, but truth actually is different. I am already noticed that
It's why DFT is so careful with spreading any information about that.
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I agree, and to be honest the amount of work put into things needs, or should be paid for. Whether MS or Android. What would be nice? A source copy of RT to be paid for and used by any number of singular developers with the contention that MS will not support it, and have that announced publicly. Fact is, people complain when something doesn't work, and it is RARELY the person/manufacturer that they are blaming who are at fault. We as "Humans" give negative publicity out as if it is free candy, 99% of the time we have no real idea who actually is to blame, and forget how many mistakes we ourselves make. By "we" I mean the general public, not anyone or anything specific.
As for that...MS should release the sourcecode. It's a nifty OS and has the potential to be pretty amazing; not to mention the publicity would be good initially. AND...I have a few Tegras laying around I'd LOVE to dual boot with ! SO yes...go MS, give us source food? Don't be Apple
First of all this thread is really old, and probably should have been locked a long time ago.
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SO yes...go MS, give us source food? Don't be Apple
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I really don't think you are going to see this happen, Windows has been closed source since 1985, I really doubt one day in 2013 they are going to wake up and say "oh, lets just opensource this stuff".
wcparry said:
I agree, and to be honest the amount of work put into things needs, or should be paid for. Whether MS or Android. What would be nice? A source copy of RT to be paid for and used by any number of singular developers with the contention that MS will not support it, and have that announced publicly. Fact is, people complain when something doesn't work, and it is RARELY the person/manufacturer that they are blaming who are at fault. We as "Humans" give negative publicity out as if it is free candy, 99% of the time we have no real idea who actually is to blame, and forget how many mistakes we ourselves make. By "we" I mean the general public, not anyone or anything specific.
As for that...MS should release the sourcecode. It's a nifty OS and has the potential to be pretty amazing; not to mention the publicity would be good initially. AND...I have a few Tegras laying around I'd LOVE to dual boot with ! SO yes...go MS, give us source food? Don't be Apple
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Its essentially giving out the whole x86 Windows source code, this will never happen.. I believe
Here's a topic on windows RT recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079409
Maybe this can help in porting it to other devices.
We know about that thread... We have eyes.
Recovery images are useless for this purpose
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gnidorah said:
Maybe go with windows ce (embedded) + bsp for concrete device instead?
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Well, that wouldn't be RT then, would it? The point of this thread was wondering if RT could be ported to other devices not officially supported, not whether we can install any OS at all.

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