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Hi,
I've recently brought a Raphael and await it to arrive tomorrow...
Anyway, browsing the web I found the following cable and some info that this phone supports TV-out. Anyone familiar with this and knows if this cable could work with this phone? How's the movie-playback quality with TV-out?
Cable:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9286
You shouldn't even have to buy that cable, though it is nice find. Yes it supports tv out you just have to buy a Video Ipod cable for something like 3 bucks and use the usb adapter that should come with the phone. You will also have to look around for a cab that will perform a register change to allow it to work.
Welcome to the world of the Rapheal now learn to earch the board for easy answers like this. It makes it easier for erybody.
Thanks for your reply.
I've heard about the iPod cable "hack", but my question is concerning this particular cable... and since I didn't find any information about it (through a search) I thought I could make a new post...
Anyway, thanks
that doesnt look like it uses htc's video out pins. i really doubt it would work. the "hack" is just to change state in the registry with the ipod cable to launch the tv easy program selecting thingy since the ipod cable doesnt change the system state settings. it still works without it. i would look on amazon for the ipod video cable because last time i looked it was for under $1, and also confirmed working. i think that cable you linked is for specific digital cameras that support video out over standard 5pin mini usb. htc has extra pins (the 5 data and 6 extra i believe, video and left and right audio like rca cables) and a trapezoidal plug to distinguish extusb.
What about the cable that's Mini USB on one end, and RED/WHITE/YELLOW for standard tv out on the other end? I've seen em online for sale. Wouldn't that be simpler?
You can be the first to try it and report back. My guess would be that HTC used different pins with in the usb plug.
I've brought the cable mentioned, I'll report back once I have it
tv out
Ok not sure as to what hack your referring to but i think this is it right here.
Nue made a program that does exactly what is mentioned above as far as the ipod cable or any other but here read for your self
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueTVOut.aspx
Noobie here so please not too much burning
I want to buy the 3.5mm to RCA TV out cord (cause I think we're in agreement that the Micro USB to HDMI is not going to happen?)
My questions is can I connect it to a monitor with Composite inputs? Will I be able to hear anything?
I want to stream my slingplayer to a TV for when I go tailgaiting and don't really feel like lugging around my LCD I have in my living room and don't want to buy a TV just for these purposes.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks!
I'm not familiar with that device, but as long as you can output video through the 3.5mm slot, a 3.5mm to rca cable will work fine. RCA is composite, so as long as your monitor has a yellow rca you will see video. For audio you would need red/white rca in.
I read somewhere that you have to switch the red and yellow ends of the cable because of the way the captivates 3.5 jack is wired. The video will come across the red end of the cable, the left audio on the yellow and the right audio remains on the white. My problem is, I have the 3.5 to RCA/AV cable but can't get any arrangement to work. I have tried both tv out settings on the phone and every possible color combination at the RCA end of the cable and all I get is a scrambled video and a buzzing hum that drowns out the audio. My 3.5 to RCA audio cable works flawless. Maybe I just have a bad AV cable. Anybody else have these issues or any advice?
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I have tried both tv out settings on the phone and every possible color combination at the RCA end of the cable and all I get is a scrambled video
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I've got the same problem on my captivate (stock ROM) anyone can help us out? TV displays Dark Gray - Blackish things, but the thing is that at some part of it I can see my device's desaturated screen.. Any ideas what the problem is?
I received my monoprice MHL adapter, plugged the hdmi cable into it, plugged the power into it and plugged it into my phone. the phone shows HDMI hooked up and my monitor will alternate between showing whats on the phone and going to a white fuzzy screen then back to mirrored than fuzzy every couple of seconds.
I plugged my brothers sensation in and it works fine so I doubt it's the adapter, he is rooted running a custom ROM.
I am unlocked and rooted but running stock rom, T-Mobile USA version.
So I went into T-Mobile and asked about this issue, they didn't know, they called tech support who in turn told them to call HTC. They gave me HTCs number, I called and explained what was going on, HTC tells me the phone ISN'T MHL compatible, that we're supposed to use the media link dongle, which costs about $100.
He suggested I try just a straight up micro hdmi cable to my tv instead.
So an older phone (sensation) has the ability, but this new high tech, best of the bunch phone can't do it, what a bunch of ****.
Edit: OK, I figured out the issue, I was running an HDMI to VGA cable to my monitor, since the monitor is a VGA connection. I then went ahead and hooked it up to another monitor that had a straight HDMI connection and it worked perfect, so VGA HDMI cable no good, straight up hdmi to hdmi works great!
Edit 2: So I just tried the MHL adapter again with the vga HDMI cable, and now it works. It's like it needed one cable to make it work and now it will work with the other, nothing changed except that I tried it another TV.
a HDMI to VGA cable? as long as you dont have special equipment this cable can't be used for anything HDMI is a completly digital standard. DVI is digital + analog so a VGA - DVI adapter is possible, but HDMI to analog is without special hardware impossible.
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a HDMI to VGA cable? as long as you dont have special equipment this cable can't be used for anything HDMI is a completly digital standard. DVI is digital + analog so a VGA - DVI adapter is possible, but HDMI to analog is without special hardware impossible.
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You are correct sir, my bad, it is a DVI cable. So just replace VGA with DVI in my first and second post.
The cable I have is this one.
Thanks.
Okay. Could be a problem with HDCP.
Gesendet von meinem HTC One S mit Tapatalk 2
I'n having this issue too.. still unresolved
My MHL came in 2 days back. Hooking the phone up keeps alternating between what's on the phone and the white noise screen. I have a straightup HDMI cable going from the MHL to my LCD TV.
Any suggestions are welcome
KT said:
I'n having this issue too.. still unresolved
My MHL came in 2 days back. Hooking the phone up keeps alternating between what's on the phone and the white noise screen. I have a straightup HDMI cable going from the MHL to my LCD TV.
Any suggestions are welcome
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OK, I noticed if i just go and hook up my cable to the mhl the problem comes back, the solution is to hook everything up to the phone, then reboot the phone and the problem will be gone. One other thing is make sure you have your media volume turned up as it affects sound output, so if your media volume is muted, it will also be muted or whatever volume the phone is set at. I thought I was nuts when there wasn't any sound coming from my stereo until I realized that I had my volume all the way down.
DO the reboot thing and it should work no problems, also, our phones don't need to be plugged in to your power cord to use the MHL, so I'm wondering if the MHL adapter is even necessary for us if we can live without the power cord needing to be attached.
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OK, I noticed if i just go and hook up my cable to the mhl the problem comes back, the solution is to hook everything up to the phone, then reboot the phone and the problem will be gone. One other thing is make sure you have your media volume turned up as it affects sound output, so if your media volume is muted, it will also be muted or whatever volume the phone is set at. I thought I was nuts when there wasn't any sound coming from my stereo until I realized that I had my volume all the way down.
DO the reboot thing and it should work no problems, also, our phones don't need to be plugged in to your power cord to use the MHL, so I'm wondering if the MHL adapter is even necessary for us if we can live without the power cord needing to be attached.
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Thanks.. Will try and circle back..
Re: The power cord, not sure if it's 'needed' but I'm guessing without external power the phone wouldn't last an hour.
Seperate issue - When I last tried, I was playing around with it and the phone heated to a point it was slightly uncomfy holding the phone.
KT said:
Thanks.. Will try and circle back..
Re: The power cord, not sure if it's 'needed' but I'm guessing without external power the phone wouldn't last an hour.
Seperate issue - When I last tried, I was playing around with it and the phone heated to a point it was slightly uncomfy holding the phone.
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Yup, without the external battery going to the phone it will drain dramatically. I also noticed the heating issue you mentioned.
Ready2Mosh said:
OK, I noticed if i just go and hook up my cable to the mhl the problem comes back, the solution is to hook everything up to the phone, then reboot the phone and the problem will be gone. One other thing is make sure you have your media volume turned up as it affects sound output, so if your media volume is muted, it will also be muted or whatever volume the phone is set at. I thought I was nuts when there wasn't any sound coming from my stereo until I realized that I had my volume all the way down.
DO the reboot thing and it should work no problems, also, our phones don't need to be plugged in to your power cord to use the MHL, so I'm wondering if the MHL adapter is even necessary for us if we can live without the power cord needing to be attached.
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Update: So I tried hooking up all the cables to my phone, restarted the phone and then plugged it into the TV. It still gives me same results unfortunately. I get a display but it keeps going away every few seconds and the white noise screen appears.
What a buzzkill... My old phone (Sensation) was flawless in this respect
Since my cable tv got cut, and having no tv/vga out adaptor for my laptop (watching videos while working/browsing/play games is impossible), I decided to go for the TV out on the SK4G. Instead of the vague answers I've seen on here, I found the scientific truth.
Background
Basically, the SK4G has a 4 pin trrs socket that is used for headphones, wired controls, and tv out. While some people have issues using regular headphones (3 pin trs) due to the ground touching the 4th pin (a floating ground can trigger some actions), I have not, and due to the design, they shouldn't.
TRRS stands for Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve, as seen on the plug. On TRS, regular stero audio cables, it is Left audio, Right Audio, Common Ground (Mono audio connectors have TS plugs, with Left Audio and Common Ground, backwards compatible with stereo connectors).
RCA connectors on the other hand, are simpler. The prong in the middle carries the signal while the sleeve is ground.
Most TVs still have standard RCA connectors for composite video and left/right audio, and nearly 100% of them have standardized coloring of White (Left Audio), Red (Right Audio), and Yellow (Component Video)
The TRRS connector can be any combination of connections depending on the manufacturer, so not all AV cables are the same. One of the cables I have had TRRS of Right Audio (Red), Video (Yellow), Left Audio (White), and Common Ground.
Most Important part
The SK4G on the other hand, has a TRRS combination of Left, Right, Ground, Video.
What is most important is the position of Ground, on both sides of the cable. If this is in the wrong place, nothing will really work, but if it is, that's great, you can just switch around the rest. Any cable you get must have the TRRS connector with Ground as the 3rd from the top, and that must connect to the common ground sleeves on all three RCA connectors.
Some of the dollar stores around me have a generic brand cable, with a 90º, right angle connector, but it has ground on the 4th TRRS connector, so it's no good.
On the other hand, some have the right cable, with the Red and Yellow switched around. Specifically, it is another generic brand (Sonitek), but geared towards computer cables and adaptors. This one is ""ipod compatible"" (cost me 2.49, has an extra long connector so it sticks out a bit, just make sure it clicks in.). Just make sure you plug in the Red cable to the Yellow/Video connector on your TV. There are other brands with the right cables too. Radioshack's standard av cable is right. The cable that came with my Canon camera released in 2005 as well.
Note: You might need to have no audio playing, and plug the tv side in first, otherwise it might not work.
SideNote: The LCD on the SK4G won't turn off while using the TV out for video, so use your power cable if you want it to last. You can still lock your phone so no video will be shown, but the connection is still on.
And I am on stock (but Rooted and Deodexed) KJ2. Now all I have to do is download a dlna app so I can stream videos to it, as connecting it to upload video is a pity. It does play flv video though with the stock media player.
It's worth noting that the resulting video from the composite output is pretty rough. Grainy, fuzzy, and the image doesn't fill the whole screen. But it's handy for playing nintendo emulators on a TV and stuff.
In Portrait mode, it takes the full height, but only about 20% of the length. In landscape mode it takes the full length, but about 90% of the screen. Granted, it is just composite video, not even s-video, so resolution won't be the best ever, but it's Good enough. If I wanted high res, I'd go waste money on a better phone
Update, yep, tested it out. As long as you leave the 3.5mm cable plugged in and tv out enabled, the display will not turn off. It does dim, but does not shut off. It will waste your battery if unattended/unplugged. You can make the screen turn off by pressing the power button as normal, and that will be mirrored on the tv (blank screen).
Wow, cool. I always wondered what that TV out setting was for. I've seen some cables that have microUSB-to-HDMI which would be awesome, but I never thought it would work (and it doesn't, right?).
FYI: The 4-pin TRRS is also used for GND, AudL, AudR and Mic when you plug in a wired headset. Cool to know it doubles as GND, AudL, AudR, Vid.
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Wow, cool. I always wondered what that TV out setting was for. I've seen some cables that have microUSB-to-HDMI which would be awesome, but I never thought it would work (and it doesn't, right?).
FYI: The 4-pin TRRS is also used for GND, AudL, AudR and Mic when you plug in a wired headset. Cool to know it doubles as GND, AudL, AudR, Vid.
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Not only that, but the phone can tell the difference. Tried an FM radio app, that needs a headset plugged it, but had my tv cable plugged it, and it told me that. It knew which cable was plugged in.
And yes, no usb video out. No MHL or anything. Just composite video over the headphone jack.
I tried to connect my infinity to a 40" Samsung led tv, but all the blacks are rendered pinkish. See attached image.
Already I tried two identical micro hdmi cables.
I cannot tell whether:
- cable just doesn't support infiniy
- hdmi out broken, hw issue
- yet another jelly bean issue
- some weird combination of the above
Cable is http://www.amazon.co.uk/BlueRigger-Speed-Micro-Ethernet-Meters/dp/B00609B3J2/ref=pd_sim_ce_1
Tv is
"Samsung UE40C6530 40-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p 100Hz Slim AllShare LED Internet TV with Freeview HD"
My infinity is the US model, but TV is UK.
Weird thing that it worked once, but not ever since than.
Cheers
just a quick update.
it worked one more time, picture was perfect, but then quickly switched the input on the TV back and forth (using the remote, without touching the cable, tablet or the TV ) and it broke again, I think this rules out that the cable has contact issues
could it be that the TV is not detecting the signal properly?
s.illes79 said:
just a quick update.
it worked one more time, picture was perfect, but then quickly switched the input on the TV back and forth (using the remote, without touching the cable, tablet or the TV ) and it broke again, I think this rules out that the cable has contact issues
could it be that the TV is not detecting the signal properly?
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Most common issues:
"So what problems does HDMI regularly encounter? "Many problems have nothing to do with high-speed video," says Jeff. "The majority are issues with I2C, the serial protocol used on the DDC line for EDID (Plug and Play) and HDCP (high Bandwidth Digital content Protection).
"I2C is slow, but very susceptible to stray capacitance issues from connectors, cables or anything the electrical bus is connected to. If capacitance gets to a critical point, it slows the signal 'rise time' needed for proper communication. You can have all the high-speed data bandwidth in the world, but without DDC, you're dead in the water."
Possible results are "failures such as no audio, no picture, pink screen or flashing – it has nothing to do with the high-speed data lines. The video can be perfect, but if the DDC line has rise-time issues, the unit will not pass HDCP, and no picture will be displayed."
TROUBLESHOOTING:
HDMI connection troubleshooting
"Flashes, no audio, or pink screen are usually caused by a bad DDC line. You have to eliminate all the good things to find the bad. Power up the system with all the HDMI cables connected, then try with shorter cables to see if the system works at all. If the system still fails to come on, use different inputs.
"Stray capacitance may be inherent in the hardware, so try a DDC line conditioner which can eliminate a lot of problems. 'If the picture comes on, then goes off, it's likely one of the video TMDS channels has a high bit error rate. Many times the picture comes back with tear lines through it.
"The second case is that the DDC line is just not quite making it, and HDCP is not getting a new refresh key. Here, replace the cable or make it shorter. If all else fails, again try conditioning.
Since we have seen multiple issues with HDMI out with the TF700, I would suggest it is likely a combination of the tablet's DCC and the TV getting a little picky on the signal.
Best advise I can give is to try different TVs, cables and sources. That way you can deduce if the issue is the tab, tv, or cable. If you consistently get a pink inversion on any tv or monitor you connect the tab to... then send the tf700 back and get a replacement.
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just a quick update.
it worked one more time, picture was perfect, but then quickly switched the input on the TV back and forth (using the remote, without touching the cable, tablet or the TV ) and it broke again, I think this rules out that the cable has contact issues
could it be that the TV is not detecting the signal properly?
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I had this issue before and it's the cable. I could watch for 10 min or so then the color changed, then later it's back to normal. My solution is instead of buying another cable, I used my current hdmi cable, which working for my tv for years and just get a hdmi adapter (mini hdmi with regular hdmi female adapter) from Amazon for a few bucks and it works wonder.
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...=1350923284&sr=8-1&keywords=mini+hdmi+adapter
Everyone seems pretty sure about the cable, easy thing to check. However, I would saw that you should also (Lightly) jiggle the cable in the HDMI port. towards the top then the bottom, front, then back. My tablet has isses with the HDMI as well, but when I push the cable to the front (so the tip is touching closer to the back of the tablet using the outer end of the port as a fulcrum) I get picture/audio perfectly. I have to wrap the cable under the dock if I want to watch a movie or something so that it stays this way though.
I guess it could still be my cable, but that seems unlikely. *sigh* it used to work perfectly all the time....
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Is that picture from the Infinity or the TV. My response below is based on the assumption it's the infinity.
When the cable is connected, but no picture, are you still getting this above? If so, then I would say the TV doesn't like the signal it's getting. I'm not sure what the output is exactly on the Infinity. In general, the north america signals are a 60hz, wheereas the UK is 59hz. If the TV cannot take a 60hz, then it's going to be continuing problem. You may want to try a different a different input on the TV such as DVI and use a HDMI-DVI adapter. I don't think it'll work though.
I would trying fiddling with the TV settings. Maybe turn the TV off than back on. Of maybe you'll need unplug or replug in the cable from the tablet.
I have an issue here and them with a 16" HDTV, but my cable has a short, so I know it's the cable. Mine, when there is no picture, it doesn't show the above.
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Is that picture from the Infinity or the TV. My response below is based on the assumption it's the infinity.
When the cable is connected, but no picture, are you still getting this above? If so, then I would say the TV doesn't like the signal it's getting. I'm not sure what the output is exactly on the Infinity. In general, the north america signals are a 60hz, wheereas the UK is 59hz. If the TV cannot take a 60hz, then it's going to be continuing problem. You may want to try a different a different input on the TV such as DVI and use a HDMI-DVI adapter. I don't think it'll work though.
I would trying fiddling with the TV settings. Maybe turn the TV off than back on. Of maybe you'll need unplug or replug in the cable from the tablet.
I have an issue here and them with a 16" HDTV, but my cable has a short, so I know it's the cable. Mine, when there is no picture, it doesn't show the above.
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This is how it looks on the tv, taken a shot with my phone. Tried to move, push, twist etc the cable, but picture always pinkish. Also tried turning Tv / tablet on off, no luck.
Just ordered a different, shorter cable, will report back once get it.
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Is that picture from the Infinity or the TV. My response below is based on the assumption it's the infinity.
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Not to be an ass but look at the picture, clearly it is a Samsung TV that this image is on.
if it's the pink color issue, I would try one of the other TV picture settings and see if that helps. My response prior was for no picture on the TV.
It's possible that tablet is pushing out that pinkish signal, but newer TVs will do a lot fiddling with the signal before it hits the screen.
I have a very basic HDMI problem in that I get nothing at all from the tablet with and HDMI cable plugged in to it. Trouble is, I can't recall what behavior to expect apart from it displaying on my TV; I haven't used HDMI since got the Infinity. I tired using it on my Prime with HBO GO only to find HDMI out is restricted. But, it did work. Anyway, with the Inifnty, I get nothing. The video will continue to display on the tablet. Like others, I have no HMDI settings available anywhere within any settings menu. So, at this point I don't know if it is a hardware defect or software.
I am on Jellybean US 10.4.4.16 build, unlocked and rooted. Any help will be appreciated.