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I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.
dockular said:
I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.
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You're correct, no custom roms yet. In the meantime you could install a different launcher such as launcher pro and adw launcher to give your phone a more aosp look
Sent from the future...
Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.
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Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.
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Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM. I just use LauncherPro instead of Samsung's launcher and it's fantastic.
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I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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I agree 110%, there are some nice improvements once you remove all the crap
To switch to a stock vanilla launcher -- How To: Disable TouchWiz Epic 4G
Although it only has three screens, I've found it to be really really responsive and reliable. It always works very fast.
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This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot
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if we get good devs for the epic i may buy one. looks as there isn't as much interest as the evo has.
I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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I already got wifi tethering.....I'm rooted, so I installed the app. I'm now putting out a hotspot on 3 laptops in my home.
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ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
Best rom that's stable and most themed is Sky ice cream rom by Sean. GO flash it hands down the best rom in our dev forum.
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ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
Yap its still young phone and we still have more roms compare to vivid and holiday combine. Once ICS comes than it will be different flashing game haha
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
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So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
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So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
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You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
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exactly, you don't need to root or flash a custom rom to get rid of Touchwiz. For example, download "Gingerbread Launcher" and set as default when it prompts you. Turns your phone into a vanilla gingerbread android phone and Touchwiz is gone. I use ADW Launcher Ex and set it to "Fast" preset. Phone absolutely flies and no sign of Touchwiz anywhere. Stock everything for me.
ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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WTF?
really?
does anyone actually understand that Touchwiz is MORE than a launcher?
and you cant remove it from the launcher bar? where did you hear such asinine things?
its pretty well documented all over the Touchwiz device forums how the launcher bar works....SMH
app drawer
menu button
view type
customizable grid
menu button
edit
drag n freakin drop what you want, where you want
DONE
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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Really? I make it my business to never take part in flaming or making a member feel unwanted, but really? What have you contributed to the community to make such a demand? Such a request shows your ignorance towards the hard work and dedication that is put into the work that you use for FREE!
If you are not satisfied with the the work the community provides, don't use it. I speak for the entire development community when I say Restore your device to stock and STFU you ungrateful bastard.
If i offended anyone, I apologize but it's individuals like this guy that make devs feel unappreciated.
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Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
Wtf, you know this thread is a year old? No you can't remove touch and what does tibu and rom manager have to do with it?
What was the best before sliced bread?
nemaca said:
Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
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you are in the skyrocket section, you need to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1952. and the answer is yes you can remove touchwiz.
No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
quikt said:
Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
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For clarity, you can't remove it but, you're correct that, you can find roms that don't rely on tw.
What was the best before sliced bread?
I can't understand what you guys are saying about . Why he want to install a new rom ??? Just remove touchwiz using Root explorer like ES File editor and add a custom launcher like Nova . Is that the easy method ???
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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Hope you are doing well . Sorry if my question was wrong . I can't understand . Touchwiz is a launcher created by samsung for their devices .
Or is touchwiz a rom or kernal ? .I DELETED TOUCHWIZ FROM MY S DUOS . I am using nova launcher succesfully without any error .
Please describe me if my assumption about tochwiz was wrong.
Touchwiz consists of several pieces taking out the launcher is part of it but that doesn't remove touchwiz itself. Touchwiz is deeper than a launcher.
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Is it possible to get my notification draw onto my lock screen??
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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I could do it on ics... You can't do it when you have a pass code or patter lock you can only do it when there's no security
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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If you have a passcode you can't pull it down. And that is for obvious reasons, because if you have passcode on your phone you obviously don't want random people getting into it or seeing stuff, so that's why the notification bar can't be pulled down.
As for your iphone comment, if you really wanna use a **** phone, with **** tweaks then go ahead and get it. But the reasoning for it not being pulled down while having a passcode is obvious.
Oh and it works PERFECT on my S3 running AOSP Jellybean incase you were wondering
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Its okay, it's just helpful for us when you post more information, it helps us help you better
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Well then, first welcome. Next though the more details you can give the better. You'll find that the community here wants to help, but can only do that if they understand the problem.
Also, I can promise android is easier to tweak and easier to save if you screw up. It us just a learning curve, but one you get it you'll love it m just remember make sure you read what you are doing, search for answers and if you still don't understand ask.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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You're right. The must I ever did was jail break and unlock to increase resale, but it was a pain. However, that was probably my learning curve. Either way I prefer to tweak by swapping out ROMs radios, etc.
Hey you might want to check out the pimp ROM app. It lets you select a bunch of tweaks from a simple to use app. Kind of like cydia.
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Check out miui
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kintwofan said:
Check out miui
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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nvm i see it in ROM manager. ill check it out...
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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No the official ROM. You'll get more of the iPhone feel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31453543
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Neverendingxsin said:
Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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I'd recommend trying out different AOSP roms, such as Liquid Smooth, Paranoid Android, King Kong, AOKP, and get a sense of each one. You can also download Nova or Apex launcher and they'll both give you more options for notification badges. Stock AOSP android is pretty plain but that's the point of it though, The customization is up to you
I'll look into them. Im running CM10 ROM now. It's not bad. It'd probably be much greater if I could get my apps to store on external SDCard instead of internal. I'll keep looking them ROMs or whatever you mentioned to see if they have anything i'm looking for..
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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So far the mods to TW have been quite impressive, Nottach's Framework for example and P-ROM. Still would very much like a true pure Android experience that I can play with and mod myself. Can't do that without the bootloader unlock though but I can definitely live with what we got for quite a while if I had too
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery. What are you talking about?
And OP, I think I'm having the same dilemma...the mods that have come out for TW have been amazing - and honestly I don't know of any specific features on AOSP ROMs that I DON'T have right now.
And let's be real, I enjoy it when people were are like, "ooh, is that an S4?" And I respond by turning off a random TV in the area, or by scrolling through my gallery just by waving my hand. I'd miss that I think
So yeah I'll definitely unlock once available, but I'll most likely stick with stock-based ROMs too.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery.
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Your right, I was actually commenting on his TW opinion, it is a comment. And I prefer TW roms also. more stable.
Choice is always a good thing, just because you have a unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you have to get rid of tw.
For me I always like to just fix what ever I feel is wrong or missing or locked out from a stock rom.
At the end of the day people have to use what makes then happy.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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It's all good. I've woken up a few times still half asleep having that same problem.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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I am surprised to find I am starting to feel the same way. I've modified, configured and optimized the stock ROM quite a bit now and it is running very nicely. Looking forward to flashing a custom recovery so I can backup and restore and experiment with what's out there, but it's going to be a tough decision to run modified stock versus CM. I have also found battery life to be excellent with the Stock ROM.
Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
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Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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I jump back and forth between these two ends of the opinion spectrum in regards to TW and Samsung's (AT&T's) stock ROM. This is probably the first android phone that I could honestly be okay with never flashing a custom rom on. I will still unlock the bootloader when it becomes available. I will still flash a custom recovery (nandroid backups are a really nice thing to have, and I'm disappointed that carriers don't include this) when it becomes available as well. I *might* flash a custom rom based on the stock rom, but I think I'd rather stick to stock as much as possible, at least for some time.
As for the gimmicky features it comes with, I sort of agree, yet it's fun to show off to friends. I normally keep the gestures and eye scrolling turned off, and I keep the NFC turned off when not in use. I did buy the $9.99 remote app, and I'm surprisingly content with it. I need to offer some feedback about being able to actually drag/drop to change the order of the buttons on the other screen, but otherwise it's so much better than the WatchOn stuff that I have recently frozen using TiBu.
And on to speaking of freezing apps. With root, I'm pretty content. I can use TiBu Pro (to anyone reading this, go buy the Pro version - it's completely worth it!!) to freeze all the bloatware that I don't like. Every few days since I got my phone, I re-evaluate the list in TiBu and check into any blaotware I haven't frozen yet. "Do I need this? Have I used this? Nope! Frozen." I've done this for nearly all of the "Samsung ____" apps, including the Samsung store and all the associated apps (Samsung account, etc.). Did the same for every "AT&T ___" app that it came with - they're all garbage to me. Next on my list to evaluate and possibly freeze is all the printing services - do I really need to print from my phone? Maybe if it were my work phone...
I suppose one good reason I would want to flash a customized stock-based rom would be to free up some space. Having a 16gb version is no different than my S2 was... but I definitely had a few more GB's of room to store all the cool photos. And with larger picture files, and a faster camera, the storage is suddenly a bit more important to me.
And finally, the camera, and its associated apps/modes. I see a lot of people freezing some of the apps that allow some of the cool modes this camera can use. I'm not a professional photographer, but I love taking awesome pictures with this phone. It rival's my wife's Nikon 9300 point-and-shoot, with the exception of the Nikon's zoom lens. But as far as features and quality are concerned, it's possibly better.
This thing has been pretty smooth since day negative-one for me. Even better when we got root and the bloatware was frozen. Even snappier and better on battery once that first OTA dropped. I'm pretty impressed, and it certainly is a huge step up from my S2 running CM10.1.
TL;DR: I really like the stock rom and all the cool things it offers. The performance is great. I do like some of the gimmicky things, even if I rarely use them. With the root ability to freeze things I don't use, I could definitely see keeping this thing "stock" for this device's lifetime.
PS: It's also nice to see the "Official" status, as though I haven't violated the phone too badly...
Couldn't agree more. As you all mentioned, the security of having a custom recovery + Nandroid really opens up a lot of ground for flashing new mods and having the comfort of that fallback instead of only being able to Odin back to stock if I jack something up (which has NEVER happened or anything...lol).
@Aou I too use a Titanium Backup Pro and freeze the bloat. But I kept the Samsung Apps because it had some that you can't find on Google like the Video Editor app.
Let me remind you that the Xposed framework adds new functionality without the need to flash roms. As you can see from the screen shot I was able to mod the screen without touching the framework. Easy and reversible.
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I don't unlock and root my devices to get rid of the stock interface (Touchwiz, Sense etc) i simply do it for a better rom with tweaks that makes it faster and battery life better..
and when i finally get sick of my stock interface ill flash a AOSP rom
i know some people disagree but i think the stock rom on this phone is laggy.. even after disabling S Voice and Smart stay/Air view
Wierd I couldn't add the image.
There we go lol
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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dunno if anyone else pointed this out to you yet, but even without s beam, non touchwiz phones still all have Android Beam (you know.. the concept S Beam was based off of?)
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Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone?
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O you must be working in an extra clean environment. I know I don't. My hands get dirty often and these air gestures work for me.
Aside from that, what I am looking forward to is being able to have a pattern unlock And lock screen widgets at the same time. Unless Samsung releases an update for that.
Already a thread on this a few threads away
I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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the last overhaul was the galaxy s3, it wasnt so long ago....
Meh. I really like TouchWiz for what it is. When I was toying with the One before I got my S4, and I thought Sense 5 was still pretty heavily integrated, just as much as TouchWiz is on the S4. I would imagine an overhaul of both stock Android and TouchWiz will come with Key Lime Pie, whenever that is released.
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+1 thats what makes it what it is...tw...runs good...and I have ran every launcher out there....
I have personally thought that although there are tons of bloats, it does its job fairly well. Pretty snappy and responsive. I have looked at sense ui and realized that touchwiz isn't too bad at all.
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I think that on modern phones, if people are running into lag, they don't know how to use their device properly. Disable animations, don't overload it with apps you rarely use, turn off settings you rarely use until you need them. Root helps. Freeze/uninstall bloat. I have no issues at all with both my E4GT and my S4. Why? Because I know how to make the best of it.
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I say TW is simply scratched and something new is born. Stock TW is garbage.
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Why is it garbage?
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I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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Funny I think stock android needs an overhaul. Its too plain and lacks of features. I mean it doesnt even have a quick toggle in the dropdown or brightness control. The simplest features.
I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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I was fan of CyanogenMod for years now, and didn't care that bluetooth FC or something was wonky in the camera, but because of the TV remote?!**^ the first ROM I flashed was GoldenEye with no add ons, and it's my very first TW instead of AOSP.
I used to be a purist too, but TWRP is too easy, those hard button operations I used to have to do in CWM, don't miss it one bit. And this ROM has cool features as is, flashed it with a simple swipe of a slider bar. Mind numbing easy. I even ditched the original nandoid and moved it to the desktop computer to save 3.56 GB of room on my SD card. I used TWRP to make a backup of my presently pleased state of GoldenEye perfection and checked every available box, and only it's 2.47 GB. Big difference!
I flashed my 2.47 GB backup of my GoldenEye, with no add ons, and found no issues. Flawless. Everything works. No bugs. Not one instance of lag or a force close. Call log and texts messages did not go away. I checked every box when I made my backup. Unbelievable perfection in image reflection!
Last week I dropped it in the toilet with the charge port door open on it's otterbox.
When I was no longer able to charge it, I replaced the charging port myself, just to keep MDL and free from having to endure what everyone with MF3 suffers. It wasn't too hard peeling apart the S4 just to replace the charging port. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5e3r_2N15c You don't have to get this deep into it, only one connector up top instead of all five. I bought my replacement charge port from his YouTube link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...veASIN=B00DHZ2KZ8&linkCode=as2&tag=three04-20
It cost me $14.99 delivered in in two days flat. It arrived yesterday on Saturday and I was able to have the desktop recognize it and it charges like new and I am BOASTING!
Sign that petition that's floating around and get the bootloader unlocked. And say nice things about the whiz kids who are trying to find an exploit for all the MF3 borked users. Amen.
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Different Strokes for Different Folks--Not much new here--
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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lol, yeah
we posted at same time never read yours before i posted
I loved Cyanogenmod for years on my S1 and S2. Next AOKP on my S2 was the ****e. Then when ShoStock came to be I tried out Touchwiz based Roms. Sammy did it right with TW this time around. Next was my S3 and TW was real nice with LoserRom and his later creations. Yes the bloat ATT adds is crappy and some of Sammy apps as well. But it is fast and smooth and everything works. Run a custom ROM without the bloat, add in what most CM has for mods to it and it is awesome. Now with my S4 I went straight to ShoStock on its very first bootup.
Did I say I hate ATT yet. Last phone I buy from them though with f'd up bootloaders.
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Maybe I was a bit too harsh. TW has just been frustrating me. I expect a device with these specs to run almost flawlessly. I'm not new to rooting or android so of course I know how to speed the device up. It does get faster when I do this, but still not where it should be
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Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
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Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
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Correct, there are many more choices out there, that doesn't have tw as stock launcher.
I dunno, with a few tweaks, tw is super fast.
I actually like TW on the S4 as well. No issue so far here. Smooth and no freezes.
I don't think most people realize it's not tw that's the issue. It's the bloat at&t and Samsung put on the phone. Without that most would love tw. It works!